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Date: 12/12/2005 5:50:33 PM
Author: AmberWaves
Would you guys say this is low? (Since when did I become so slow-minded?) Platinum I really like it.

What about this one? It is the 18K surprise diamond from James Allen here
the platinum ring you linked from WF is beautiful! Another plus is that a ring that "pinches" at the diamond (like this ring does) will make your stone look bigger.
 
Hey guys, I''m back. Don''t get mad at me, but I totally chickened out with the whole "I''m giving you money and you''re going to like it" thing last night.
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It''s because he came home in a semi-bad mood, and THEN we went to get our x-mas tree and we had to pick my mom up, because my boyfriend has a big car to fit both trees. Anyway, we always get our trees at a certain place, and they were out until their shipment came that night. So we''re going tonight. And my mom is coming to OUR house, so we don''t have to pick her up again. I''m thinking I''ll do it tonight while we decorate the tree. I just couldn''t do it!

Matadora, thanks so much for those pictures, it really does help. And I do think it should be a good e-ring size!! I mean, it''s only a little smaller than the carat I wanted, right? I guess you''re all right, too. I''m going to have to try on the slim bands myself to see if that''s what I want.
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What a pain.
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Hm.. low set, high set? High Set would look bigger, right? Is that what Mara said?
 
Why not get a CZ in the interium? The whole marriage thing is working together, including compromising, for a common goal.
 
Amber- the timing has to be right- so you were right to wait. I think high set does seem to make the ring pop more- and I''ve always like thin bands but with a ring size of 7.5 I think I''ll have to thicken it up! Seriously, there are some tiny fingers on PS! Good luck!
 
I think you can get a medium set stone (vs high or low) and have it pop the diamond more but without being irritatingly high. I don't like high settings either, mine is more of a medium height and the interesting thing is that when I try on really low basket settings now the diamonds seem SMALLER to me because I am used to seeing a diamond raised up a bit. So I think that visually does play an interest in having the diamond a little higher. I love that ring kalispera's avatar there with the cathedral head and thinner band that pinches at the top. I do think that helps as well.

It's funny because I have seen diamonds made to look bigger by a wide band, aka wide meaning 5mm or similar. But I think that's a look that not everyone loves or can wear. So I think a thinner band is more universal and budget friendly as well.

Good luck..
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It''s funny because even when I was younger, I wanted a high diamond e-ring. I just don''t know it the low ones would really make me happy. The one Kalispera has in her avatar, I think that''s the WF platinum one I linked earlier. I do like that one. I also really like the surprise diamond one, I found that in 18K gold, for cheaper than the WF platinum at James Allen, but I still really like the WF platinum. I know to cut costs I should get WG. But then my wedding ring would have to be WG, for scratching sakes, I believe. And if I get that surprise diamond one anyway, there won''t be a wband that works with it. Jeez!!
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I like the cathedral styles, and I do also like the contour, slightly less "high" than the cathedral.. Hm.

Tracy, yeah, I''m going to wait until the optimum moment (like if he feels guilty about my e-ring.
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) then I''m going to pounce. But doesn''t it seem like a premium choice, though, I put money towards whatever, but it happens to be half or more of the e-ring I want? I''m still trying to come up with ways to make this work.
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If he wants this as much as he says he does, then it should be okay.
 
EBree; That IS what I''m looking for, but now damn me and my busy hands...I''ve been looking at the settings with other diamonds on the band and whatnot. I''m my own worst enemy here, I guess. I love everything. One thing''s for sure, I''m totally goingt WF for the diamond. Can I send my diamond to someone else to set it into one of their settings? I remember seeing that on here- people having trouble with dealers not wanting to set another dealer''s stone. Hm. If all else fails, I do love the plat. surprise setting at WF.
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UPDATE!!!

Okay, so I just talked to my boyfriend, he called and sounded in a good mood. Well, I told him that I was looking at stones and settings and that if we got it from WF I''d get a slight discount because of PS. And I told him that I''m going to save and save and save. And that I''m going to give it all to him and he can do with it what he will- on one condition- I want my ring by April. It was at this point that he laughed, and said, listen to you! And I said, what...? All hesitant-like. And he said, you''ve got it all figured out. And then he said, so what is that, like 1700..? And I said yeah, kinda like that...
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Okay, going to have to talk him into a bigger size... Go up a grand.
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But still, he doesn''t seem averse to the situation, right?? I''m just going through the totals in my head, and thinking of the money I could save by April... Yikes. Anyway, that''s news!!! We''re going to talk more tonight. But yay!
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I totally think you made the right decision about not talking to your boyfriend. Timing really matters and is especially important with matters like this.

I think you should contact some jewelers and see how they feel about setting a loose diamond from another jeweler. Some are open to it and others do not do it. The surprise setting from WF is beautiful. I wanted one myself, but now I want what is in my avatar, a white gold tapered cathedral setting. (The one in my avatar is from blue nile.)
 
We must have posted at the same time, but congrats on your news. It sounds like he is open to the idea of you helping. Maybe you can slowly get him adjusted to the fact that you may have to increase the funds a little bit...
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Great news, Amber!!! I''m glad he took it well! I was so nervous for you when you were hesitant to ask what he meant!
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But it sounds like he is definitely open to the idea, and you can totally talk him up a grand!
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So good luck!!! Keep up the good work!!!
 
Thanks! And, he just called back, number one, to tell me he loves me, and number two, to say that we are going to go to the diamond district in January!! Yay!! He said we can go and look at stones and settings and everythign like that. He said, is that okay? If we wait til January? And I said, yeah, honey, of course. And then I told him, I''m not trying to make this hard for you, and hurry you. I''m trying to make this easier for US. And he said, I know, honey. I understand. So that''s good!! I can''t wait to go to the DD!! I''ll have to ask Caligal where to go.. She''s been to the one here.
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Yayyyy, so great!!!
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I''m soooo happy for you!!!!

And he sounds so cute & sweet too!! (which I''m sure you know already
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Ooooh, that''s so exciting!!! Yay! It''s so great that he''s so open to it!
 
YAY!!
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January is only a few weeks away! Congrats. If you can, take some pics of rings you like. I''m glad that he is so willing to let you help out!!
 
YAY!!! Things are moving forward despite the accident and that''s GREAT!!
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I''m so glad you were able to talk. Cheers for Diamond District in January! That''s so exciting!
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It''s like, Holy Crap. I finally got his ass in gear! After all he''s put me through the last year, it''s like, COME ON. I deserve this. And I am SO bringing pictures. That surprise diamond is calling my name..."Amber...Amber...buy me..."
 
hehe, I think it''s about time you start a new thread called "GOOD news"!
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And you really don''t want to disappoint that poor little surprise diamond! It would be soooo sad and lonely if you didn''t give it a good home!
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<from a guys point of view, doesn''t look like theres many here.

a) guys are rarely in a rush to do anything, and getting married, honestly, most guys would always wait.

b)we like to think theres a few things we can do on our OWN. geeez, cant we be a guy? we don''t like HELP.

c)this will sound harsh, heres a little sugar first. he was kind of jerky about the whole, i''ll give u a ring then, i promise line, and twice is bad. the 1st few posts i was totally behind you.

But

D) the harsh part.

you sound like its all about.
me memememememememem,
i want a ring, now, now, now, now
ring ring ring ring ring.

phhff.

let the guy be a guy, once he gets married he''ll never be able to do stuff ''alone'' or by himself again, yet all you see, is me, my ring, now.
 
Date: 12/14/2005 4:03:53 PM
Author: opfreak
<from a guys point of view, doesn''t look like theres many here.

a) guys are rarely in a rush to do anything, and getting married, honestly, most guys would always wait.

b)we like to think theres a few things we can do on our OWN. geeez, cant we be a guy? we don''t like HELP.

c)this will sound harsh, heres a little sugar first. he was kind of jerky about the whole, i''ll give u a ring then, i promise line, and twice is bad. the 1st few posts i was totally behind you.

But

D) the harsh part.

you sound like its all about.
me memememememememem,
i want a ring, now, now, now, now
ring ring ring ring ring.

phhff.

let the guy be a guy, once he gets married he''ll never be able to do stuff ''alone'' or by himself again, yet all you see, is me, my ring, now.
Who is ths guy?
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Bit harsh.
 
Okay, not to sound harsh BACK, but that''s why this is a LADIES in Waiting forum, because a lot of us like to be here and talk about what''s going on, knowing the other ladies will not be angry or argumentative, but may understand as well. Here''s the funny part, last night my boyfriend totaly agreed with what I had suggested we do about the ring. He IS in a hurry to get married, and says it all the time.

As for the mememe part: since you''re not the other person in our relationship, I understand you can''t see that most of the time it''s himhimhim. I am devoted to him, and spend almost all our time together doing the things he has to do, and the things he wants to do. I LIKE to do this.

As for him not being able to do things alone after we''re married, I don''t know what kinds of marriages you''ve been invoved with, but obviously not normal ones. My boyfriend is allowed to do anything he wants to do. Our lives will be joined, but that doesn''t mean he''s going to be stuck in a family-style prison. He is a free person. What century are you from?
 
Well, Angel, he is a MAN. So it seems that gives him the right to be rude? Hm. Wait, no, it doesn''t.
 
No it does not Amber! There''s a difference between stating an opinion and flat out rude. From the way he was talking, he sounded like he''s just been dumped or maybe he''s a MIW!!
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Don''t pay any attention to him.
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I'm so sorry to hear about your situation. I'm glad your bf is ok and that you two have talked about it like adults and have come to an understanding. Like everyone says: "Sh*t happens" and unfortunately you have to adapt (which you are doing). I totally understand your disappointment at the fact that he promised and now the situation makes both of you look bad to your peers and families. However, if any of them knew why it didn't happen in the time frame you expected (if it doesn't happen in march), I'm sure they'd be more understanding than you think. Like you, they would probably be more concerned about your bf's condition and other stuff having to do with the accident (I hope), than whether you're getting a ring or not. It's one of many road blocks that you will encounter and overcome. As for your new budget for a ring, I think you can still get a beautiful, decent sized ring for 3000 dollars or less. I saw earlier in the thread that you were looking at around .75 carats? I didn't read the WHOLE thread so forgive me if I'm misinformed about anything (I'm at work and it's hard for me to sit and read for an extended period of time). My ring has a .75 center stone and I think it's just the right size for my size 4.5 finger (hell, I would've loved a diamond chip if that was all he could get! It's the meaning that is important), but that's just my opinion.

As for helping him with the cost, I know a lot of men that would HATE that because they would feel chastized or like less of a man if they had to get financial help from their gf's, but it really depends on the man. If he doesn't want your help, I would advise that you respect that and be patient. It seems to me that when he's able to do it and the time is right, he won't disappoint you.

Hope everything works out for you!
 
Date: 12/14/2005 4:17:47 PM
Author: AmberWaves
Okay, not to sound harsh BACK, but that's why this is a LADIES in Waiting forum, because a lot of us like to be here and talk about what's going on, knowing the other ladies will not be angry or argumentative, but may understand as well. Here's the funny part, last night my boyfriend totaly agreed with what I had suggested we do about the ring. He IS in a hurry to get married, and says it all the time.

As for the mememe part: since you're not the other person in our relationship, I understand you can't see that most of the time it's himhimhim. I am devoted to him, and spend almost all our time together doing the things he has to do, and the things he wants to do. I LIKE to do this.

As for him not being able to do things alone after we're married, I don't know what kinds of marriages you've been invoved with, but obviously not normal ones. My boyfriend is allowed to do anything he wants to do. Our lives will be joined, but that doesn't mean he's going to be stuck in a family-style prison. He is a free person. What century are you from?

What ur mis-understand is reality and the idea of something. no matter what will or won't happen, theres still the fear of losing that freedom. it's like your dream ring, well its in your dreams, the ring you get, while great, will never be exatcly like that in your dream.

plus u did make it sound like your after the ring.

maybe your bf agreed because from the sound of it, you came down pretty hard on him?


all i'm trying to introduce is a guys pov.

so harsh you ladies are to circle the wagons.


oh ans its MIP
 
Date: 12/14/2005 4:03:53 PM
Author: opfreak
<from a guys point of view, doesn''t look like theres many here.

a) guys are rarely in a rush to do anything, and getting married, honestly, most guys would always wait.

b)we like to think theres a few things we can do on our OWN. geeez, cant we be a guy? we don''t like HELP.

c)this will sound harsh, heres a little sugar first. he was kind of jerky about the whole, i''ll give u a ring then, i promise line, and twice is bad. the 1st few posts i was totally behind you.

But

D) the harsh part.

you sound like its all about.
me memememememememem,
i want a ring, now, now, now, now
ring ring ring ring ring.

phhff.

let the guy be a guy, once he gets married he''ll never be able to do stuff ''alone'' or by himself again, yet all you see, is me, my ring, now.


LOL

The poor guy could have been crippled, but shame on him for squandering the ring fund to pay for the car accident. It''s all his fault.
 
Well, all I can say back is that you don''t know me, or my boyfriend, so you aren''t in the position to tell me what he feels, or how I came across to him. In fact, he likes the idea. But it''s pointless to argue with someone who has no idea what he''s arguing about. I appreciate your thought to vent a male point of view, but sir, I get that at home every night. So I''m quite alright from that section. His fear is not losing his identity as a single person, but his fear is losing me (I assume you have read this thread thoroughly- if so, you would see that has already been posted). I have already assured him nothing could make me leave. No ring, or ring. I am not a greedy person, neither are any other LIW. We are here for support and friendliness. If you can''t provide that, I assume our conversations will bore you.
 
Date: 12/14/2005 5:45:41 PM
Author: platinumrock


Date: 12/14/2005 4:03:53 PM
Author: opfreak
<from a guys point of view, doesn't look like theres many here.

a) guys are rarely in a rush to do anything, and getting married, honestly, most guys would always wait.

b)we like to think theres a few things we can do on our OWN. geeez, cant we be a guy? we don't like HELP.

c)this will sound harsh, heres a little sugar first. he was kind of jerky about the whole, i'll give u a ring then, i promise line, and twice is bad. the 1st few posts i was totally behind you.

But

D) the harsh part.

you sound like its all about.
me memememememememem,
i want a ring, now, now, now, now
ring ring ring ring ring.

phhff.

let the guy be a guy, once he gets married he'll never be able to do stuff 'alone' or by himself again, yet all you see, is me, my ring, now.


LOL

The poor guy could have been crippled, but shame on him for squandering the ring fund to pay for the car accident. It's all his fault.

Platinum, this thread has been up for days, and just now you say something? I guess you were waiting for a partner in being rude. If something had been wrong, I would have not been on here period. Maybe you should read up before you insult. Actually, the accident was all his fault. DRIVING WITHOUT INSURANCE. If you can not add anything of use, or bepeaceful, please don't bother. I had thought you were nice, from your previous posts, but you assume things about me. I would never ever let a ring get between my boyfriend and I. I am a good person. Please do not assume things about me, from something I have posted. It's not fair.
 
Amber, I'm so sorry people have decided to come on here and lecture you without knowing anything about you! From reading your other posts (or even just reading this thread thoroughly) it is ENTIRELY OBVIOUS that you care about your boyfriend and want what's best for him too. This clearly isn't a matter of you being manipulative and selfish and cruel, you're just trying to get him to make good on a promise he made to you! And it IS his fault for driving without insurance, so even though you should be (and WERE) concerned about his well-being, the real problem isn't the accident itself since no one was hurt, it's the INSURANCE which was his fault. So please don't listen to these people and let them upset you!!! The rest of us know you're a great, caring, understanding person, who deserves the proposal of your dreams. So ignore them and let us know any developments on your ring search!!

ETA: hehe, hi Anchor! I WAS wondering if you had read mine before you posted yours, since we pretty much had the same thing to say!
 
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