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Date: 4/29/2009 9:47:26 PM
Author: Bia
maybe she forgot?
Maybe it was a dream, and she was sleep-PSing?
Date: 4/29/2009 9:47:26 PM
Author: Bia
maybe she forgot?
Date: 4/29/2009 9:47:26 PM
Author: Bia
maybe she forgot?
Date: 4/29/2009 9:59:37 PM
Author: trillionaire
Date: 4/29/2009 9:47:26 PM
Author: Bia
maybe she forgot?
if she forgot, she is DEF too young to be getting married.
fo shizzle dizzleDate: 4/29/2009 9:59:37 PM
Author: trillionaire
Date: 4/29/2009 9:47:26 PM
Author: Bia
maybe she forgot?
if she forgot, she is DEF too young to be getting married.
Too much junk food -- affects the memory.Our proposal story is so random. We were both just relaxing at home eating junk food and watching TV, when I felt something hard brush against my finger while digging into a bag of chex mix. I pulled it out and it was a greasy engagement ring. I just couldn't stop laughing! I even forgot to tell him yes. It wasn't until later that night he was like, "So...you never gave me an answer."
~~Sparkle, Sparkle~~
There really is a lot to your post.Date: 4/29/2009 4:45:25 PM
Author: purselover
Do you think there might be other reasons going on, such as he wants to be settled into his career, he thinks you should live together first etc? I think it''s odd that the only reason he wouldn''t want to get married is age. I would ask him what he thinks will change between now and 30 that would make you better suited to get married.
Date: 4/29/2009 4:31:58 PM
Author: elledizzy5
Marriage is the right choice when two people are ready. Your BF is saying he''s not ready, and no, that''s not stupid. You''re ready, and no that''s not stupid. The reality is that you''re not on the same timeline (assuming he''s not just throwing you off) so you have to decide if he''s really right for you. Are you willing to wait 8 more years to get married? Or are you ready to leave him and find someone who wants to marry you now?
There''s no one right answer. You just have to take what your BF says as truth, and make your decision based on what is best for you.
well said Elle and Izzy!It does sound like in this case your boyfriend is much too young to marry, and he is clearly telling you so.
I won''t talk about all that age vs. divorce rates crap because I think it really is a crap shoot.
You need some time to think to yourself and talk to your boyfriend to decide if you want the same things in life. I think it is too soon for you to make any big decisions about your relationship, but having a personal deadline would not be unreasonable. For example, if you decide that being engaged by the time you are 25 is the longest you are willing to compromise, you need to be clear about that. Because marriage is all about compromise.
Maybe after college and starting a career things will change for you boyfriend, perhaps all of a sudden he will decide he is ready to be married. I certainly married slightly younger than I ever thought I would! Try not be be too anxious and enjoy your life as a girlfriend a little longer! LIWitis is going to hit hard, especially when you start hearing about all your highschool classmates that are getting married and having babies. Thats where pricescope comes in!
LOL!Date: 4/30/2009 11:34:24 AM
Author: lexychoo
Oh god, this is so embarrassing. That was my first post on this forum and I completely fabricated that story. No proposal. I have never been engaged.
The majority of the responses here are what I figured them to be. But I really don''t feel like I''m rushing. Maybe in a few years my opinions will change, but right now I feel so ready. The only problem is that my boyfriend isn''t. I graduated last year, I got my first real job earlier this year. Besides the economy being a little out of whack, I don''t see any reason to wait. What other milestone is there except to get married? But then again, my boyfriend is getting his master''s, so he probably wants to wait until he''s through with that. I don''t know, it''s just so frustrating. We''re chasing after different things and I don''t know what to do. My biggest fear is after finally waiting until we''re 30 he decides to change his mind. I would have waited all that time for nothing, all that time I *could* have used toward finding someone who wants the same things as me and wants to go down the same path.
I''m seriously sick of waiting, and all the time I spend here and other engagement related blogs and sites probably don''t help. I guess I should try to just stop and enjoy what I have now, which is a loving boyfriend. But still, it''s hard.
First of all ... thanks for admitting that your first post was a fib. That takes a lot of guts to admit ... but I''m sure when you posted that you were just kinda fantasizing & not thinking you''d be sticking around the forum. Hopefully you won''t catch a lot of flack for it. Who hasn''t told a white lie from time to time?Date: 4/30/2009 11:34:24 AM
Author: lexychoo
Maybe in a few years my opinions will change, but right now I feel so ready. The only problem is that my boyfriend isn''t. I graduated last year, I got my first real job earlier this year. Besides the economy being a little out of whack, I don''t see any reason to wait. What other milestone is there except to get married?
Great post, Deco!Date: 4/30/2009 11:50:44 AM
Author: decodelighted
First of all ... thanks for admitting that your first post was a fib. That takes a lot of guts to admit ... but I''m sure when you posted that you were just kinda fantasizing & not thinking you''d be sticking around the forum. Hopefully you won''t catch a lot of flack for it. Who hasn''t told a white lie from time to time?Date: 4/30/2009 11:34:24 AM
Author: lexychoo
Maybe in a few years my opinions will change, but right now I feel so ready. The only problem is that my boyfriend isn''t. I graduated last year, I got my first real job earlier this year. Besides the economy being a little out of whack, I don''t see any reason to wait. What other milestone is there except to get married?
Re: the bolded parts above:
You think you *feel* ready ... but really the next line shows that you just think that''s ''what''s next'' and you want to move on. Then what? Baby? Buying a house? Then what? Listen, it''s not a race. If you rush through your life looking for the next the next the next -- you''ll MISS IT.
This is going to sound silly but go listen to Miley Cyrus''s new song ''The Climb''. Maybe that will resonate with a young gal like yourself. It touches me (ridiculously) and I''m 41.
I''m going to share a secret with you. 22, 23 ... those are really hard ages. Many folks are just leaving organized schooling & staring for the first time out at the big, wide abyss of life. There''s a lot of uncertainty and a HUGE URGE to seek ''the next step''. To feel that addictive surge of *progress* that you''ve been used to your whole life. Grades. Steps. Levels. Tests. etc. Transition from college to life is H-A-R-D. Things don''t work the same way. There''s not as much organized approval & no easy to follow path. Think about this a bit. Decide if your feeling ''ready'' for marriage is less about actually being emotionally and financially ready for adult partnership & more about wanting the relief of *progress*. A tick mark toward what you expect for your life. The fact that you''re not really acknowledging/honoring your boyfriend''s LACK of ''readiness'' makes me think its not about ''partnership'' ... but about getting what you want for your own sense of security/progress/milestone etc. Don''t poo-poo his very real hesitation. You''re not any more right than he is. And its not a good enough reason to do something just because you can''t think of reasons NOT to do it.
Slow down. Tolerate the discomfort. Realize its a tough transition period that won''t be solved by getting your way. ENJOY THE CLIMB.
[/quote]Date: 4/30/2009 11:34:24 AM
Author: lexychoo
What other milestone is there except to get married?
Date: 4/30/2009 11:50:44 AM
Author: decodelighted
Date: 4/30/2009 11:34:24 AM
Author: lexychoo
Maybe in a few years my opinions will change, but right now I feel so ready. The only problem is that my boyfriend isn''t. I graduated last year, I got my first real job earlier this year. Besides the economy being a little out of whack, I don''t see any reason to wait. What other milestone is there except to get married?
First of all ... thanks for admitting that your first post was a fib. That takes a lot of guts to admit ... but I''m sure when you posted that you were just kinda fantasizing & not thinking you''d be sticking around the forum. Hopefully you won''t catch a lot of flack for it. Who hasn''t told a white lie from time to time?
Re: the bolded parts above:
You think you *feel* ready ... but really the next line shows that you just think that''s ''what''s next'' and you want to move on. Then what? Baby? Buying a house? Then what? Listen, it''s not a race. If you rush through your life looking for the next the next the next -- you''ll MISS IT.
This is going to sound silly but go listen to Miley Cyrus''s new song ''The Climb''. Maybe that will resonate with a young gal like yourself. It touches me (ridiculously) and I''m 41.
I''m going to share a secret with you. 22, 23 ... those are really hard ages. Many folks are just leaving organized schooling & staring for the first time out at the big, wide abyss of life. There''s a lot of uncertainty and a HUGE URGE to seek ''the next step''. To feel that addictive surge of *progress* that you''ve been used to your whole life. Grades. Steps. Levels. Tests. etc. Transition from college to life is H-A-R-D. Things don''t work the same way. There''s not as much organized approval & no easy to follow path. Think about this a bit. Decide if your feeling ''ready'' for marriage is less about actually being emotionally and financially ready for adult partnership & more about wanting the relief of *progress*. A tick mark toward what you expect for your life. The fact that you''re not really acknowledging/honoring your boyfriend''s LACK of ''readiness'' makes me think its not about ''partnership'' ... but about getting what you want for your own sense of security/progress/milestone etc. Don''t poo-poo his very real hesitation. You''re not any more right than he is. And its not a good enough reason to do something just because you can''t think of reasons NOT to do it.
Slow down. Tolerate the discomfort. Realize its a tough transition period that won''t be solved by getting your way. ENJOY THE CLIMB.
Oh boy...well, this forum can be a bit overwhelming at first, but I just felt this urge to participate since I was mostly a lurker. I wrote it and forgot all about it!Oh man... I have to ask, why did you fabricate that story? You don''t have to answer if you don''t want to.
I am with the others - kudos to you for telling the truth on that front. However...Date: 4/30/2009 12:28:53 PM
Author: lexychoo
Oh boy...well, this forum can be a bit overwhelming at first, but I just felt this urge to participate since I was mostly a lurker. I wrote it and forgot all about it!Oh man... I have to ask, why did you fabricate that story? You don''t have to answer if you don''t want to.
I just wanted to second this--I commend you for admitting you fabricated, I didn''t think you''d be backDate: 4/30/2009 11:50:44 AM
Author: decodelighted
First of all ... thanks for admitting that your first post was a fib. That takes a lot of guts to admit ... but I''m sure when you posted that you were just kinda fantasizing & not thinking you''d be sticking around the forum. Hopefully you won''t catch a lot of flack for it. Who hasn''t told a white lie from time to time?Date: 4/30/2009 11:34:24 AM
Author: lexychoo
Maybe in a few years my opinions will change, but right now I feel so ready. The only problem is that my boyfriend isn''t. I graduated last year, I got my first real job earlier this year. Besides the economy being a little out of whack, I don''t see any reason to wait. What other milestone is there except to get married?
Looks like the Master''s IS the next milestone in his life. You''ve got to support him while he finishes up with his school because that is probably his #1 priority right now...marriage can come later.Date: 4/30/2009 11:34:24 AM
Author: lexychoo
What other milestone is there except to get married? But then again, my boyfriend is getting his master''s, so he probably wants to wait until he''s through with that. I don''t know, it''s just so frustrating.
I guess I should try to just stop and enjoy what I have now, which is a loving boyfriend. But still, it''s hard.
DittoDate: 4/30/2009 2:05:06 PM
Author: TravelingGal
I am with the others - kudos to you for telling the truth on that front. However...Date: 4/30/2009 12:28:53 PM
Author: lexychoo
Oh boy...well, this forum can be a bit overwhelming at first, but I just felt this urge to participate since I was mostly a lurker. I wrote it and forgot all about it!Oh man... I have to ask, why did you fabricate that story? You don''t have to answer if you don''t want to.
You felt an urge, and you went through with it even if it meant fabricating a story. I do question your maturity level a bit. Growing up is about learning to put off instant gratification, and that you can''t have everything you want WHEN you want it. Obviously I include engagement in that. Just based on the very little I know about you, I''d say waiting for marriage might be a good idea.
Wow, Deco....you just really opened my eyes to my own situation....thank you for your thoughtful post.Date: 4/30/2009 11:50:44 AM
Author: decodelighted
I'm going to share a secret with you. 22, 23 ... those are really hard ages. Many folks are just leaving organized schooling & staring for the first time out at the big, wide abyss of life. There's a lot of uncertainty and a HUGE URGE to seek 'the next step'. To feel that addictive surge of *progress* that you've been used to your whole life. Grades. Steps. Levels. Tests. etc. Transition from college to life is H-A-R-D. Things don't work the same way. There's not as much organized approval & no easy to follow path. Think about this a bit. Decide if your feeling 'ready' for marriage is less about actually being emotionally and financially ready for adult partnership & more about wanting the relief of *progress*. A tick mark toward what you expect for your life. The fact that you're not really acknowledging/honoring your boyfriend's LACK of 'readiness' makes me think its not about 'partnership' ... but about getting what you want for your own sense of security/progress/milestone etc. Don't poo-poo his very real hesitation. You're not any more right than he is. And its not a good enough reason to do something just because you can't think of reasons NOT to do it.
Slow down. Tolerate the discomfort. Realize its a tough transition period that won't be solved by getting your way. ENJOY THE CLIMB.
I'm going to print this out and read it over and over. It's very true.Date: 4/30/2009 11:50:44 AM
Author: decodelighted
I'm going to share a secret with you. 22, 23 ... those are really hard ages. Many folks are just leaving organized schooling & staring for the first time out at the big, wide abyss of life. There's a lot of uncertainty and a HUGE URGE to seek 'the next step'. To feel that addictive surge of *progress* that you've been used to your whole life. Grades. Steps. Levels. Tests. etc. Transition from college to life is H-A-R-D. Things don't work the same way. There's not as much organized approval & no easy to follow path. Think about this a bit. Decide if your feeling 'ready' for marriage is less about actually being emotionally and financially ready for adult partnership & more about wanting the relief of *progress*. A tick mark toward what you expect for your life. The fact that you're not really acknowledging/honoring your boyfriend's LACK of 'readiness' makes me think its not about 'partnership' ... but about getting what you want for your own sense of security/progress/milestone etc. Don't poo-poo his very real hesitation. You're not any more right than he is. And its not a good enough reason to do something just because you can't think of reasons NOT to do it.
Slow down. Tolerate the discomfort. Realize its a tough transition period that won't be solved by getting your way. ENJOY THE CLIMB.
Date: 4/30/2009 11:50:44 AM
Author: decodelighted
Date: 4/30/2009 11:34:24 AM
I''m going to share a secret with you. 22, 23 ... those are really hard ages. Many folks are just leaving organized schooling & staring for the first time out at the big, wide abyss of life. There''s a lot of uncertainty and a HUGE URGE to seek ''the next step''. To feel that addictive surge of *progress* that you''ve been used to your whole life. Grades. Steps. Levels. Tests. etc. Transition from college to life is H-A-R-D. Things don''t work the same way. There''s not as much organized approval & no easy to follow path. Think about this a bit. Decide if your feeling ''ready'' for marriage is less about actually being emotionally and financially ready for adult partnership & more about wanting the relief of *progress*. A tick mark toward what you expect for your life. The fact that you''re not really acknowledging/honoring your boyfriend''s LACK of ''readiness'' makes me think its not about ''partnership'' ... but about getting what you want for your own sense of security/progress/milestone etc. Don''t poo-poo his very real hesitation. You''re not any more right than he is. And its not a good enough reason to do something just because you can''t think of reasons NOT to do it.
Slow down. Tolerate the discomfort. Realize its a tough transition period that won''t be solved by getting your way. ENJOY THE CLIMB.
Decodelighted, thank you for mentioning all of the above! I am 23 going on 24 this year and it''s been rough since I graduated from college. What you said about seeking progress is absolutely true. My FF (who is 16 years my senior and in a more stable place in life than myself) and I have been looking at rings and talking marriage for awhile now. Just yesterday I started thinking, "maybe I want to get married for the wrong reasons (ie. progress, tick marks, etc.)" When I told my FF that I was having doubts he was thrown off guard. He said, "Can you return an engagement ring?" which totally threw ME off! I didn''t even know he bought one! He then said, "Doesn''t matter. I''m asking you anyway. When I do, you tell me yes or no." We talked a lot more about what I was feeling and concluded that I am in love with him and and I am emotionally ready to get married (phew! The night didn''t end in drama or a breakup or a fight).
The point of my rant is that yes, it is completely true that many female 20-somethings do get married because it seems like the "next step" at a time when you''re feeling the most insecure about life, but being in your early 20''s doesn''t necessarily mean you''re not ready. I strongly agree that if you''re thinking about marriage in your 20''s you really have to take a good look at your reasons and analyze them carefully.
Date: 5/1/2009 7:39:47 PM
Author: Haven
MonkeyPants--LOVE your signature quote!