Buyer Beware... If you're non-American, think twice before purchasing from the US

[Sunrises Sunsets]

I just want to put this into perspective because the population of the UK and Australia are far less than of the USA. So while yes the troops were less it's not an overall representation of the contribution.

I absolutely agree and have only admiration for the countries that supported the USA at that time. Well done for all of those assisting us.

 

[Rockdiamond]

This is a door that can swing both ways.. Americans may not trust Canadians after witnessing the advantage Canada was taking of the USA in trades.

I don’t recall any issues whatsoever before about two months ago….and I’m talking about the past 60 years. Since I’ve been cognizant. You mentioned our enemies sowing distrust. Getting Americans to distrust Canada. Great for our enemies
How does a trade war help?

 

[Sunrises Sunsets]

i wanna know if you get Greenland who is going to pay for their welfair state, Denmark picks up the tab right now

The thing is, Daisy, what will happen to Greenland if Russia or China make their move and overtake Greenland?

I don't know the answer to the question you posed but the USA has territories which govern their own way of life and some would like to become bonified states. The USA is NOT the satan of the world as others would have you believe. We would love to see all countries thrive and live independently, what a world that would be!

 

[Sunrises Sunsets]

It’s like 1984. Do not believe your lying eyes.
We Americans need to learn to hate Canada because they’ve been leeching off us all these years.
And although all those other countries followed us into a war based on a lie ( weapons of mass destruction) we should just forget all that. We’re the suckers!!
Canada’s involvement detailed here.

Canada and the Iraq War - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

They’ve been a great ally. There was great resistance to the second Iraq invasion. With good cause. But screw those Canadians!!!
And based on these tariffs and behaviors at the top, we’re sending signals that the USA doesn’t want or need friends. Allies. Who needs’em???
And apparently a nice sized portion of US citizens are happy with this approach.
Convince people someone is robbing them. With ZERO evidence. Use misinformation.
It’s working. Ignore what you’re seeing. Listen to what I’m telling you.
The tariffs are part of a huge money grab by the billionaires destroying our government. Shift the burden from income based taxes to tariffs being paid by working class.
And play on peoples emotions to get working people to buy into it …. Brilliant. For the billionaires

Wow, seething with hate rather than understanding why the pressure is being put on Canada to engage in equal, fair trade. The above dialog is why there is so much hate in this world, you cannot disagree or want fairness in trade because then the USA is a robber and all of us are filthy rich.

Did it every occur to anyone that the piece quoted maybe AI and promoted by an enemy nation? Nah, that would never happen... right?

 

[Sunrises Sunsets]

THIS. The only people who aren’t going to be hurt by this is those who are already wealthy.

And yes - US was not just helping others out of the kindness of their heart lol (I am thinking of situations such as USAID). And now more nefarious nations will fill that role … we are just handing over power to China and Russia. They are licking their chops.

I was wondering if anyone ever bothered to hear where money from USAID was being channeled, anyone? It's been established that the actual qualified aid will be restored by this requires investigation and release. Why would we want to fund terrorist groups, sigh...

 

[Sunrises Sunsets]

Plus we never should have been there in the first place!!!

That is your opinion but then when safety and security is restored no one complained when safety and security was restored.

Yes, the USA is a kind nation but, unfortunately, welfare serves the world poorly. Give a man a fish and he'll eat for a day, teach a man to fish and he can eat everyday. Remember that advice? Watch where the aid is working and where is it being used to assist in terrorism. There needs to be a guard at the gate of the USA bank.

 

[Sunrises Sunsets]

I don’t recall any issues whatsoever before about two months ago….and I’m talking about the past 60 years. Since I’ve been cognizant. You mentioned our enemies sowing distrust. Getting Americans to distrust Canada. Great for our enemies
How does a trade war help?

No one is sowing distrust of Canadians, the USA is trying to level our playing field in the trade world.. it's that simple.

The hate is being promoted by those who don't want to change the rules of trade.

 

[Mreader]

I was wondering if anyone ever bothered to hear where money from USAID was being channeled, anyone? It's been established that the actual qualified aid will be restored by this requires investigation and release. Why would we want to fund terrorist groups, sigh...

Ha. That is not happening. My friend’s AIDS clinic in Africa doesn’t have funding anymore. You know why? Because it’s also a place that helps women that are the victim of violence. That triggered a DEI and funding was cut off. There’s so many stories like this. They aren’t trying to figure out anything. They’re just cutting it off.

 

[Sunrises Sunsets]

Facts can be skewed and blown out of proportion by those

Ha. That is not happening. My friend’s AIDS clinic in Africa doesn’t have funding anymore. You know why? Because it’s also a place that helps women that are the victim of violence. That triggered a DEI and funding was cut off. There’s so many stories like this. They aren’t trying to figure out anything. They’re just cutting it off.

I'm not believing AIDS funding in Africa will never happen again, there may be far more to that story than any of us know.

 

[Rockdiamond]

Hate. Yes I hate what the US government is doing and saying. I hate trade wars.
Sorry for that. Truly. I do use sarcasm in my writing.
But my points remain.
Can you give specific examples where Canada was ripping off the USA?
Are you aware of the trade agreement signed by our current president about 6 years ago? It’s still in force- or it was till we broke it.
Do trade agreements matter?
Are you ok with the US breaking agreements?
Or maybe this is just another ai?

United States–Mexico–Canada Agreement - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

 

[Rockdiamond]

@Sunrises Sunsets
We’re in a terrible place as a country. On that we can surely agree.
Obviously, basic facts can’t be agreed upon. This aids the bad guys.
We don’t agree on who the bad guys are. Which helps the bad guys
I’m so sad for this country and the whole world.
Canada isn’t our enemy- but we’ve turned them into one. And Europe. Everyone hates the USA at this point. You can surely see that….
So sad. And scared for what’s coming

 

[Sunrises Sunsets]

I've learned, sadly, that

Hate. Yes I hate what the US government is doing and saying. I hate trade wars.
Sorry for that. Truly. I do use sarcasm in my writing.
But my points remain.
Can you give specific examples where Canada was ripping off the USA?
Are you aware of the trade agreement signed by our current president about 6 years ago? It’s still in force- or it was till we broke it.
Do trade agreements matter?
Are you ok with the US breaking agreements?
Or maybe this is just another ai?

United States–Mexico–Canada Agreement - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

David, the vitriol in the statements I am reading amaze me. Who said Canada was ripping off the USA? Canada has a trade advantage against the USA and this isn't 6 years ago, this is now. The USA wants equal treatment in trade and no extra advantages or blocking of our products from other nations. What is so difficult about that request?

The USA is balancing on a pinhead financially and we have added millions of people recently whom we are supporting and for whom jobs will be needed. Is it so wrong to want to be able to produce and sell our wares with other nations at a level playing field?

Put the hate away, deal with the financial situation with another country and move on. Tariffs are the leverage to be sure we are treated equally in trade. Equalize trade, no tariffs. It doesn't get fairer and easier than that.

 

[Sunrises Sunsets]

@Sunrises Sunsets
We’re in a terrible place as a country. On that we can surely agree.
Obviously, basic facts can’t be agreed upon. This aids the bad guys.
We don’t agree on who the bad guys are. Which helps the bad guys
I’m so sad for this country and the whole world.
Canada isn’t our enemy- but we’ve turned them into one. And Europe. Everyone hates the USA at this point. You can surely see that….
So sad. And scared for what’s coming

Bah... all the drama is just that. US citizens can have their old world back and continue down the drain or work to make the adjustments to right the ship and make the right contributions to the world without feeding the people who glean the largess away for their own pockets or evil. We have a choice.

 

[Rockdiamond]

Canada has a trade advantage against the USA and this isn't 6 years ago, this is now

Specifics. What advantage?
There was an agreement in place. Negotiated by members of the current administration ( the same ones telling us it’s such a bad deal). We broke it. Not them.
Simple facts. I know facts are inconvenient. But they matter.
The fact that many people share your view….drama??? So sad.
A large percentage of us see that the US reputation is trashed. And it’s been done in an irreparable way.
No one will ever trust us again. This is so clear. Not opinion. No one in Greenland wants to be taken over. Our Canadian member right here can tell you how they feel. Elbows up!!!
There is zero evidence that these tariffs have a plan, or a goal.
But enough Americans believe, without any evidence- that we’re being “ripped off”
That leaves the rest of us pretty much without a country. Or living in a country we don’t recognize.
Now I have to guess if my social security payment will come every month.
I can get by without it. But many people can’t. Imagine their fear.
If you can take a moment to ponder- think how many of us are feeling.
The fear is very real.

 

[Rockdiamond]

@Sunrises Sunsets
And others who share the same views:
Celebrate. You won. The folks in charge are going to make you very happy.
The rest of us strongly believe you’re shooting yourself in the foot. Repeatedly. It’s our foot too
If you’re right, there’s a big beautiful future.
If we’re right - and we don’t want to be right- the US is done. Our way of life.
Could you ever imagine their UK issuing travel warnings about coming to the USA???
They’re not alone.
Social security is a “ponzi scheme” according to the world’s supposedly richest man. How does that sit with everyone who’s worked and paid in for a lifetime?

 

[Sunrises Sunsets]

Specifics. What advantage?
There was an agreement in place. Negotiated by members of the current administration ( the same ones telling us it’s such a bad deal). We broke it. Not them.
Simple facts. I know facts are inconvenient. But they matter.
The fact that many people share your view….drama??? So sad.
A large percentage of us see that the US reputation is trashed. And it’s been done in an irreparable way.
No one will ever trust us again. This is so clear. Not opinion. No one in Greenland wants to be taken over. Our Canadian member right here can tell you how they feel. Elbows up!!!
There is zero evidence that these tariffs have a plan, or a goal.
But enough Americans believe, without any evidence- that we’re being “ripped off”
That leaves the rest of us pretty much without a country. Or living in a country we don’t recognize.
Now I have to guess if my social security payment will come every month.
I can get by without it. But many people can’t. Imagine their fear.
If you can take a moment to ponder- think how many of us are feeling.
The fear is very real.

We broke it? How about, now the USA wants to renegotiate an old agreement. How about we want a level field for trade.

The hyperbole here is making me laugh. We can't be trusted because we know it's time to renegotiate a new trade deal. So every country that ever renegotiate it's trade policies could never be trusted again?

Because the fat is being trimmed from the inside the USA too, we can never be trusted. Because we're closing the open ended donating with required accountability, we can never be trusted. Because we send illegal entrants into our country, (many drug dealers and hardened criminals in the mix), back to their homeland, WE can never be trusted and on and on it goes. The USA has a door for immigrants which provides for their safety and that they have an honest interest in being here. A borderless country is not a country and offers it's citizens nothing.

We have not attached Greenland or Canada to our country, so you may want to put that banner down. Will there be talks in the future... I doubt it but if so, there will be talks, not invasion. I heard reported yesterday that there was a very productive conversation and meeting with the new head of Canada. Let's pray for the good things to happen and stop fear mongering.

 

[Sunrises Sunsets]

Specifics. What advantage?

Here are the number that Slickk provided earlier in this conversation. I'll let you do the research as to how Canada has a 4.0 trade tariff advantage to the USA .09 trade tariff.

 

[Sunrises Sunsets]

@Sunrises Sunsets
And others who share the same views:
Celebrate. You won. The folks in charge are going to make you very happy.
The rest of us strongly believe you’re shooting yourself in the foot. Repeatedly. It’s our foot too
If you’re right, there’s a big beautiful future.
If we’re right - and we don’t want to be right- the US is done. Our way of life.
Could you ever imagine their UK issuing travel warnings about coming to the USA???
They’re not alone.
Social security is a “ponzi scheme” according to the world’s supposedly richest man. How does that sit with everyone who’s worked and paid in for a lifetime?

For reference, when we flew into Heathrow approximately 35 years ago, we were pulled out of line, frisked and our bags totally rummaged through and left in a mess that needed to be repacked. We should have gone to the Consulate to complain, gotten an attorney and screamed bloody murder for the invasion. No, we let them do their thing. We were in their country and abided by their regulations. The UK has been protecting their back forever but heaven forbid you think the USA should do so too. Did you ever read the UK's travel advisory? Here you go:
The UK has recently updated its US travel advisory for British travelers bound for America with stricter wording: While in February, it stated, “the authorities in the US set and enforce entry rules,” the language was changed in March to say those rules are enforced “strictly.”
This amounts to giving travelers a heads up for entry to the USA. I guess it's means we're now implementing our rules and regulations. Scary, eh?

Do you know what a Ponzi scheme is about? Keep feeding money from the bottom so the top gets a payout but sooner or later, there's not enough booty. Even sooner when the money in the fund has been used for other purposes than old age Social Security.

 

[Rockdiamond]

We broke it? How about, now the USA wants to renegotiate an old agreement. How about we want a level field for trade.

Who complained about re-negotiating?
That’s not what we’ve done. We broke an agreement.

I’m in business for many years. If you want to change an agreement you have negotiation. You don’t break the agreement and then try to negotiate. You’ve broken an agreement. That’s what we’ve done.
The chart you posted. I’m sorry/ but absolutely sure you - and most of us have no idea of the context, or implications.
Tariffs are associated with causing or worsening the Great Depression- leading to WW2. Virtually every very economic expert has been pointing out the dangers and inefficiencies of tariffs since before the election.

As far as customs going through baggage. Yes it’s a hassle- we’ve all been through it.
How does that compare with being put in handcuffs and flown to a detention center hundreds of miles away?

Russian scientist working at Harvard detained by ICE after being stopped at Logan Airport

A Russian scientist working at Harvard Medical School has been detained by US Immigration and Customs Enforcement, her lawyer told Boston 25 News Friday.

www.boston25news.com

And this isn’t an isolated case.

If you trust the richest man in the world to protect your social security benefits…. Good for you. I don’t.
Maybe you don’t get or expect social security benefits so it’s not an issue for you.
“But we’ll be bankrupt in 17 years”
Maybe that’s true - yet till a few months ago we had the strongest economy in the world.
So I guess we need to destroy everything now so we’ll be fine in 17 years???
There’s bad times coming. That’s how many of us see it.
There’s so much being done that is a huge affront to - I believe- the majority of Americans- I hope so at least.
The fact that it’s making so many of fearful and incredibly anxious. That’s a feature for the people doing it - not a problem.
You don’t feel we’re insulted- actually threatening our former allies? Cool. But many of us are horrified.
Living in a country that’s all of a sudden aligned with Russia.
I imagine many people in other countries have experienced this. I’m sure many Venezuelans were horrified as their country fell into chaos.
So sad for so many of us.
Others can bask in our discomfort

 

[Sunrises Sunsets]

Who complained about re-negotiating?
That’s not what we’ve done. We broke an agreement.

I’m in business for many years. If you want to change an agreement you have negotiation. You don’t break the agreement and then try to negotiate. You’ve broken an agreement. That’s what we’ve done.
The chart you posted. I’m sorry/ but absolutely sure you - and most of us have no idea of the context, or implications.
Tariffs are associated with causing or worsening the Great Depression- leading to WW2. Virtually every very economic expert has been pointing out the dangers and inefficiencies of tariffs since before the election.

As far as customs going through baggage. Yes it’s a hassle- we’ve all been through it.
How does that compare with being put in handcuffs and flown to a detention center hundreds of miles away?

Russian scientist working at Harvard detained by ICE after being stopped at Logan Airport

A Russian scientist working at Harvard Medical School has been detained by US Immigration and Customs Enforcement, her lawyer told Boston 25 News Friday.

www.boston25news.com

And this isn’t an isolated case.

If you trust the richest man in the world to protect your social security benefits…. Good for you. I don’t.
Maybe you don’t get or expect social security benefits so it’s not an issue for you.
“But we’ll be bankrupt in 17 years”
Maybe that’s true - yet till a few months ago we had the strongest economy in the world.
So I guess we need to destroy everything now so we’ll be fine in 17 years???
There’s bad times coming. That’s how many of us see it.
There’s so much being done that is a huge affront to - I believe- the majority of Americans- I hope so at least.
The fact that it’s making so many of fearful and incredibly anxious. That’s a feature for the people doing it - not a problem.
You don’t feel we’re insulted- actually threatening our former allies? Cool. But many of us are horrified.
Living in a country that’s all of a sudden aligned with Russia.
I imagine many people in other countries have experienced this. I’m sure many Venezuelans were horrified as their country fell into chaos.
So sad for so many of us.
Others can bask in our discomfort

You know there are so many bandied up statements in this this post that I'll let others be the judge of what is factual and what is fear mongering or even worse. Every egregious twist that has been made to statements provided by me makes me shake my head.

I don't have the energy to hate so many people as I see works for many. My hopes are for the future of this country but there is a nasty undercurrent working to take it down. I hope they remember their hand in it as if they are successful. How we became a nation that coddled criminals from other countries and tore down our borders at one point baffles me.

A Russian scientist should never have to worry about any type of investigation while in this country. Huh? And who cried the hardest when NY city was attacked? Talk about needing a reality check.

A renegotiation attempt was made and the tariff deadline pushed back several times. Where are you getting your news?

I'm through with this discussion. I bear no hate toward those who disagree but I do pray for everyone.

 

[Rockdiamond]

I’m sure no one is changing their minds. Nothing I posted was fear mongering. I get my news from a wide variety of sources.
I’ve seen nothing about renegotiating our trade agreements. Just the opposite. We announce new tariffs and other countries respond out of fear and intimidation. Then we change our stance again.
Fentanyl. That’s the culprit. But we don’t have a problem with that drug coming across our Northern Border. Even still Canada took steps to make sure. But that’s not enough. Let’s go to 25% on cars. Why??? Ya got me

If there’s news to show I’m mistaken, I’d look at it objectively.
If it’s ok with people …. People attempting to enter the US being shipped off to for profit prisons instead of just sending them back…. If that’s ok - and apparently it is- we’ll all have to live with the consequences.
We used to have a saying in this country- I might not agree with what you’re saying but I’ll fight to to the death protecting your right to say it.
Now if you’ve written an article criticizing things the government does, you’re an enemy and deserving of not only deportation- but being locked up for weeks.
Maybe if the market tanks again Monday the 25% tariff goes away. One can hope

 

[missy]

You know there are so many bandied up statements in this this post that I'll let others be the judge of what is factual and what is fear mongering or even worse. Every egregious twist that has been made to statements provided by me makes me shake my head.

I don't have the energy to hate so many people as I see works for many. My hopes are for the future of this country but there is a nasty undercurrent working to take it down. I hope they remember their hand in it as if they are successful. How we became a nation that coddled criminals from other countries and tore down our borders at one point baffles me.

A Russian scientist should never have to worry about any type of investigation while in this country. Huh? And who cried the hardest when NY city was attacked? Talk about needing a reality check.

A renegotiation attempt was made and the tariff deadline pushed back several times. Where are you getting your news?

I'm through with this discussion. I bear no hate toward those who disagree but I do pray for everyone.

Thank you Sunrise. I have no more energy to try having a discussion with those who remain stubbornly closed minded. I appreciate you taking the time and energy to share common sense and facts. I too pray for all of us. For all who want the best for everyone. I believe most of us here have good intentions. Unfortunately the road to hell is paved with good intentions.

And for those who don’t have good intentions I hope that “Karma is the silent witness to every injustice, ensuring that balance is restored”

Because make no mistake we are fighting for our lives. Our enemies are brutal and evil without conscience. Fact

 

[Rockdiamond]

I’d love an open discussion based on facts. I bet many of us would. Common sense is no longer common.
Back to topic- how will Tariffs help the USA?
Facts and common sense welcome

 

[Daisys and Diamonds]

The thing is, Daisy, what will happen to Greenland if Russia or China make their move and overtake Greenland?

I don't know the answer to the question you posed but the USA has territories which govern their own way of life and some would like to become bonified states. The USA is NOT the satan of the world as others would have you believe. We would love to see all countries thrive and live independently, what a world that would be!

i have always been 100% behind the US
but you cant just take over a another people's peaceful country, that's an act of war
Nato would look after Greenland, as would Denmark

 

[Daisys and Diamonds]

It’s like 1984. Do not believe your lying eyes.
We Americans need to learn to hate Canada because they’ve been leeching off us all these years.
And although all those other countries followed us into a war based on a lie ( weapons of mass destruction) we should just forget all that. We’re the suckers!!
Canada’s involvement detailed here.

Canada and the Iraq War - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

They’ve been a great ally. There was great resistance to the second Iraq invasion. With good cause. But screw those Canadians!!!
And based on these tariffs and behaviors at the top, we’re sending signals that the USA doesn’t want or need friends. Allies. Who needs’em???
And apparently a nice sized portion of US citizens are happy with this approach.
Convince people someone is robbing them. With ZERO evidence. Use misinformation.
It’s working. Ignore what you’re seeing. Listen to what I’m telling you.
The tariffs are part of a huge money grab by the billionaires destroying our government. Shift the burden from income based taxes to tariffs being paid by working class.
And play on peoples emotions to get working people to buy into it …. Brilliant. For the billionaires

last time that happened we got WW2 and you guys took way too long to to join in

 

[Snowdrop13]

i have always been 100% behind the US
but you cant just take over a another people's peaceful country, that's an act of war
Nato would look after Greenland, as would Denmark

This is true. First of all, it’s a loooong way from China or Russia to Greenland. And second of all, it’s 80% ice, covering a huge land mass. Has anyone looked at a map? I don’t think it would be an easy conquer for anyone, certainly no one could just walk in, like seems to be being implied. Masses of troops, ships, subs and aircraft would need to be mobilised. Pretty obvious to the rest of the world.

 

[Daisys and Diamonds]

This is true. First of all, it’s a loooong way from China or Russia to Greenland. And second of all, it’s 80% ice, covering a huge land mass. Has anyone looked at a map? I don’t think it would be an easy conquer for anyone, certainly no one could just walk in, like seems to be being implied. Masses of troops, ships, subs and aircraft would need to be mobilised. Pretty obvious to the rest of the world.

i read something today that the Danish SAS (or equivalant) patrol the vast wilderness

 

[Starstruck8]

Back to topic- how will Tariffs help the USA?

Back to topic- how will Tariffs help the USA?

Well, I can think of some stories, not necessarily good ones…

Tariffs could bring some manufacturing back to the US. With globalization, much manufacturing has moved to lower-wage countries. Mostly, this has benefitted both the US and the lower-wage countries. But we saw when Covid disrupted supply chains that it’s good to have some local manufacturing capacity. If a long war is on the cards, you want to be able to make your weapons (and even just keep your country running) locally. Of course, maintaining local capacity has a cost. It’s up to the government to get the balance right. I doubt that many people would want third-world textile sweatshops returned to the US.

Tariffs could help the US government (as opposed to US citizens as a whole) because they are a tax. They raise money for the government. The US government runs chronic deficits. Higher taxes are one way to address this. Tariffs are a tax that can be sold as hurting foreigners. But this is misleading. Tariffs benefit import-competing local producers and the government. They hurt foreign exporters, local importers and local consumers. The consumers will soon notice the price rises and realize that they have been conned.

Tariffs could be used as a big stick to threaten foreign governments. This seems to be the motivation for the currently proposed tariffs. The US is uniquely placed to do this. It has the lowest trade exposure [= (Imports + Exports) / GDP] of any major country. (US – 25%, World Average – 59%, Canada – 67%. Source) So a trade war would hurt foreigners more than it hurt the US. Canada is particularly exposed. Canadian exports to the US are 20% of (their) GDP. US exports to Canada are 1.2% of US GDP. (Source data) The catch with this is that waving a big stick might make the foreigners submit, but it won’t make you popular. Does the US really want to be seen as the big bully rather than as the leader of the free world? The Chinese and Russian bullies would welcome this.

@Sunrises Sunsets, you seem to think (but I may be mistaken) that because the US has a trade deficit with Canada, the Canadians must be ripping you off. Not so. The Canadians are selling you things you want to buy at prices (including any US import tariffs) that you are prepared to pay. They are choosing not to buy an equivalent value of what you are offering at the prices that you are asking (plus any Canadian import tariffs). That is all. It could well be that the Canadian tariffs are benefiting Canadian producers at the expense of US producers (and Canadian consumers). But that is not a ‘subsidy’ from the US to Canada, as some people have wrongly suggested.

 

[Tartansparkles]

Tarrifs also restrict consumer choice and stiffle innovation. If consumers are choosing to buy imported products rather than domestic products, the imported products must be offering the consumer something that they want/value over what's available from the domestic market. The value could be related to cost, features, aesthetics, branding, reliability - the point is, the consumer is able to choose. Whether it's diamonds, cars, dishwashers, freezers, running shoes, winter jackets or handbags, I'm sure we all buy imported products.

When those imported products are no longer available, either because the additional tax (tariff) makes them economically unavailable or because they are no longer physically available to buy, the consumer has less choice.

The consumer is further disadvantaged through a lack of innovation and competition between domestic producers. If the domestic producer now has a more or less captive market (because consumers can no longer afford the products they would prefer), there is little to motivate the domestic producer to innovate or improve their products. In some cases the quality could reduce while the costs increase because of the lack of competition.

Wealthier people and big businesses will likely be able to weather the storm. It's the lower to middle income families and local businesses who will suffer.

It could be argued that moving foreign manufacturing to the US would avoid tariffs and create local jobs. This takes time (and money, which ultimately adds cost to the consumer). In the meantime, how many small businesses will close and local jobs will be lost during the period of readjustment (for example, import businesses and those businesses that rely on imports for parts/components).

However this plays out I think we are all facing a short to medium term future of higher prices and less choice.

 

[Sunrises Sunsets]

@Sunrises Sunsets, you seem to think (but I may be mistaken) that because the US has a trade deficit with Canada, the Canadians must be ripping you off. Not so. The Canadians are selling you things you want to buy at prices (including any US import tariffs) that you are prepared to pay. They are choosing not to buy an equivalent value of what you are offering at the prices that you are asking (plus any Canadian import tariffs). That is all. It could well be that the Canadian tariffs are benefiting Canadian producers at the expense of US producers (and Canadian consumers). But that is not a ‘subsidy’ from the US to Canada, as some people have wrongly suggested.

I am out of this but for clarification, I NEVER EVER said Canada was ripping us off. That was Rock Diamond's terminology. The simple solution I would like is we don't charge them for import goods to our country and they don't charge us for our imports into their country. Even field.