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Concerned about depth - 0.83

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albas

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Hi guys,

Wanting to get some thoughts on the quality of this diamond. My concern is the largish depth. HCA tool comes out with a 1.1

0.83 G XXX S1 - Price is $3450
Depth: 62.9
Table: 53
Crown Angle: 35.0°
Pavilion Angle: 40.6°
Girdle: M-STK
Cutlet: none
Fluoro: none
 
albas|1401095850|3680200 said:
Hi guys,

Wanting to get some thoughts on the quality of this diamond. My concern is the largish depth. HCA tool comes out with a 1.1

0.83 G XXX S1 - Price is $3450
Depth: 62.9
Table: 53
Crown Angle: 35.0°
Pavilion Angle: 40.6°
Girdle: M-STK
Cutlet: none
Fluoro: none
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Hi albas,

The depth is more than some of us prefer certainly, it is possible the stone might face up small for its weight as a result. We do need some more info to get a better idea though. Could you post the diameter measurements so we can judge the face up size or spread, the star and lower girdle facet percentages too please? The diamond does have potential but it could be you might be better off finding one with a depth between approximately 60 - 62 % give or take a little. Do you have any images for this diamond such as ASET or Idealscope?
 
Lorelei|1401098911|3680211 said:
The depth is more than some of us prefer certainly, it is possible the stone might face up small for its weight as a result. We do need some more info to get a better idea though. Could you post the diameter measurements so we can judge the face up size or spread, the star and lower girdle facet percentages too please? The diamond does have potential but it could be you might be better off finding one with a depth between approximately 60 - 62 % give or take a little. Do you have any images for this diamond such as ASET or Idealscope?
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Thanks Lorelei.

Measurements - 5.98 - 6.00 x 3.77mm. Haven't seen the ASET or Idealscope yet.

Let me know what you think.
 
albas|1401112001|3680292 said:
Lorelei|1401098911|3680211 said:
The depth is more than some of us prefer certainly, it is possible the stone might face up small for its weight as a result. We do need some more info to get a better idea though. Could you post the diameter measurements so we can judge the face up size or spread, the star and lower girdle facet percentages too please? The diamond does have potential but it could be you might be better off finding one with a depth between approximately 60 - 62 % give or take a little. Do you have any images for this diamond such as ASET or Idealscope?
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Thanks Lorelei.

Measurements - 5.98 - 6.00 x 3.77mm. Haven't seen the ASET or Idealscope yet.

Let me know what you think.
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Thanks albas. Do you also have the star and lower girdle facet percentages too please? Those you will find on the report on the diamond proportion map diagram. The stone is actually ok for spread, it's about what it should be which is a point in its favour, but images are essential to see how well all the proportions work together so if you could get images, that would be very helpful. As with a car, even if you have the essential components such as an engine, carburettor, battery,wiring, petrol, steering and so on, doesn't necessarily mean the car will perform well, or even start for that matter! So it can be with diamonds, we need the images to determine how beautiful and sparkly this diamond might be. What is your priority here, are you looking for the best cut diamond you can find, or just a stone that is well cut but not necessarily to the highest standards?
 
albas|1401115424|3680313 said:
Here you go - http://www.gia.edu/cs/Satellite?reportno=1166080715&childpagename=GIA%2FPage%2FReportCheck&pagename=GIA%2FDispatcher&c=Page&cid=1355954554547...

Looking for best cut/quality with good size > 0.8. Willing to compromise if it makes sense.

This is another one - http://www.gia.edu/cs/Satellite?pagename=GST%2FDispatcher&childpagename=GIA%2FPage%2FReportCheck&c=Page&cid=1355954554547&reportno=6172054029... But don't think i should compromise on cut.
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Thanks for those albas. Both of these diamonds might have potential but that's really all that can be said without reflector images such as ASET or Idealscope. With the first SI that has a cloud setting the clarity grade, you would want to make absolutely sure this wasn't negatively affecting brilliance, this is apparently unusual in SI1 and more cause for concern in SI2 but I would advise you to check this carefully with an expert that can view the stone in person. The second has a cloud as a secondary clarity characteristic but it would also be prudent to check.

If you give us an idea of budget and your preferred specifications, we would willingly see what we can find for you? With compromising on cut, the trick is knowing various proportion combos that might work well together, supported by reflector images and so on, there are super diamonds out there that aren't necessarily cut to the most exacting standards but still perform, maybe not quite as well as a superideal, but very well indeed. We would be pleased to go to work on your behalf if you would like us to!
 
albas|1401116697|3680324 said:
Thanks - budget is around maxed at 4000.

Also looking at these -
- 0.87 - http://www.b2cjewels.com/dd-5085832-0.87-carat-Round-diamond-H-color-VS2-clarity.aspx
- 0.90 - http://www.b2cjewels.com/dd-4721936-0.90-carat-Round-diamond-H-color-SI1-clarity.aspx
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The first doesn't have the report loaded as far as I can see to get more details, but B2C should be able to get this info on request. The second's proportions are around what we call 60 60 for depth and table, these can be very nice diamonds so it might be worth asking for an Idealscope image for this diamond and possibly the other if the proportions check out.
 
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