Erythritol sweetener found to markedly raise clotting

[pearlsngems]

I'm still not going back to using it until we know more. Given that our bodies produce erythritol, consuming more of it may be pushing the level too high.
People without risk factors may feel differently about it. For me it's not worth the risk.

 

[Demon]

I'm still not going back to using it until we know more. Given that our bodies produce erythritol, consuming more of it may be pushing the level too high.
People without risk factors may feel differently about it. For me it's not worth the risk.

I've decided to switch back and forth until more is known.

 

[stracci2000]

i drink tap water
Gary wont and we have to buy him water
some tap water tastes better than others
the water is hard here but it tastes ok,
the water down home was also hard but tasted terrible

I drink only tap water too.
The plastic waste from bottled water makes me sad, so I don't want to contribute to that.
Besides, our tap water tastes fine to me.

 

[Daisys and Diamonds]

I drink only tap water too.
The plastic waste from bottled water makes me sad, so I don't want to contribute to that.
Besides, our tap water tastes fine to me.

we have so many arguments in this house about having to buy water (for Gary) and they dont do kirb side recycling here
all thats wrong with the water is its hard
but he sees what comes out of trhe jug and it puts him off (the lime scale)
everdently many many years ago the council could have made it less hard durring the construction of the town's water plant but due to cost did not
we had hard water in Dunedin and the water also tasted horrible, but it didnt ruin your appliances like the water does here (need to get a water softner one day)

 

[pearlsngems]

When we first bought our house, we had to have a chemical feeder pump put in to reduce the acidity of the well water, since acid water eats pinholes in copper pipes.

We could not install both an acid-reducer and a water softener, for reasons that were explained to me by the well treatment company but that I can't recall-- something to do with how hard our water was, I think.

For years we used a Brita pitcher type filter to improve the taste of the water but finally a few years ago we had a whole-house carbon filter installed. Our tap water tastes very good now-- but it's still hard. It leaves residue on my pots, which I have to clean with Barkeeper's Friend. We have to use liquid soaps and shower gels-- no bar soap. And I just cleaned our kettle again after letting it soak with vinegar. (If your jug has a lot of lime deposit it may take more than overnight for the vinegar to dissolve the lime, or you may have to scrub a little after to loosen it.)

Hard water is actually perfectly safe and healthy to drink, whereas softened water can be bad for you if it contains too much sodium. If you want to stop buying drinking water, try to get rid of the scale in the jug. Or maybe replace the jug if the deposit is too caked on, and afterward keep up with it by soaking weekly with vinegar. (Just an idea.)

 

[Lookinagain]

I put the local tap water through a Brita and that's what I drink. Tastes fine to me. But I just use the tap water to cook and make coffee. I don't get deposits of any sort, but if I did, I think that would bother me a bit and I'd probably use the Brita water for cooking and coffee too.

 

[MamaBee]

I’m mad at myself..I thought I thoroughly read the labels on my vitamin water..It turns out that erythritol is in my vitamin water…I read the article @missy..I just don’t need to take any chances so as much as I love my zero water…I have to give it up. I don’t drink regular purified water like my husband..but I guess I have to start now. My doctor wants me to drink 64 ounces of water a day..

 

[missy]

I’m mad at myself..I thought I thoroughly read the labels on my vitamin water..It turns out that erythritol is in my vitamin water…I read the article @missy..I just don’t need to take any chances so as much as I love my zero water…I have to give it up. I don’t drink regular purified water like my husband..but I guess I have to start now. My doctor wants me to drink 64 ounces of water a day..

I’m sorry Joanne. It is a pain I know. I have given up so much already I’m willing to take my chances. I hesitate to even mention this but if one is dealing with clotting risk there are supplements one can take to counteract that risk. But as with everything please check with your physician. Nothing I write should be taken as medical advice as I am just sharing my thoughts

 

[MamaBee]

I’m sorry Joanne. It is a pain I know. I have given up so much already I’m willing to take my chances. I hesitate to even mention this but if one is dealing with clotting risk there are supplements one can take to counteract that risk. But as with everything please check with your physician. Nothing I write should be taken as medical advice as I am just sharing my thoughts

I take Pycnogenol 300mg a day in addition to Ubiquinol..This combo helped my heart ejection fraction. My former cardiologist couldn’t explain it but it started increasing after this combo with my Vitamin D. Pycnogenol keeps platelets from aggregating..Since I have borderline and sometimes subnormal platelet levels it also helps thin my blood so the platelets can be individually counted..The cardiologist wrote down what I was taking because he couldn’t believe my ejection fraction started climbing over time. The last one was normal so he discharged me from his care after following me for three years. It’s expensive because I take three a day but I’ll never stop taking it. My platelets are still borderline but I’m trying other supplements for that. I get the blood test works today..I take the Pycnogenol mainly for my ejection fraction..

 

[missy]

I take Pycnogenol 300mg a day in addition to Ubiquinol..This combo helped my heart ejection fraction. My former cardiologist couldn’t explain it but it started increasing after this combo with my Vitamin D. Pycnogenol keeps platelets from aggregating..Since I have borderline and sometimes subnormal platelet levels it also helps thin my blood so the platelets can be individually counted..The cardiologist wrote down what I was taking because he couldn’t believe my ejection fraction started climbing over time. The last one was normal so he discharged me from his care after following me for three years. It’s expensive because I take three a day but I’ll never stop taking it. My platelets are still borderline but I’m trying other supplements for that. I get the blood test works today..I take the Pycnogenol mainly for my ejection fraction..

Good for you! Sometimes we have to take things into our own hands (and with a good physician supporting us) figure it out on our own. When we fall outside the "norm" of lab ranges/medical results sometimes that is our best course of action. You go girl

 

[pearlsngems]

@MamaBee,
Usually I drink water or herbal tea (chilled or hot.) But sometimes I like to flavor my water, and then I use these, which contain no sweetener. I find they are not so sour as to need sweetening. Local grocery stores carry some of them; check the baking aisle for True Lemon and True Lime if you don't find them in the beverage mixes aisle.

Unsweetened: Hint of Flavor

Looking for an unsweetend drink without all the extra sugar? Try True Lemon unsweetened hint of flavor. These wedge packets are packed with flavor and made with real citrus.

www.truelemon.com

 

[MamaBee]

@MamaBee,
Usually I drink water or herbal tea (chilled or hot.) But sometimes I like to flavor my water, and then I use these, which contain no sweetener. I find they are not so sour as to need sweetening. Local grocery stores carry some of them; check the baking aisle for True Lemon and True Lime if you don't find them in the beverage mixes aisle.

Unsweetened: Hint of Flavor

Looking for an unsweetend drink without all the extra sugar? Try True Lemon unsweetened hint of flavor. These wedge packets are packed with flavor and made with real citrus.

www.truelemon.com

Thank you @pearlsngems! I will check them out..

 

[Autumn in New England]

I was really happy to find this thread, because I am in search of a new sugar substitute (I had been using stevia). So when I googled erythritol recently, I read about this issue and crossed it off my list. I try to limit my carbs, but positively despise the bitter aftertaste of stevia. I just need something for my coffee. Does anyone have any other low or no carb sugar substitutes they can suggest? I'm looking for something natural, but keep going back to Equal (poison, I know), because it's the only one I've ever found that's actually sweet and no carbs without a nasty flavor.

 

[Daisys and Diamonds]

I’m mad at myself..I thought I thoroughly read the labels on my vitamin water..It turns out that erythritol is in my vitamin water…I read the article @missy..I just don’t need to take any chances so as much as I love my zero water…I have to give it up. I don’t drink regular purified water like my husband..but I guess I have to start now. My doctor wants me to drink 64 ounces of water a day..

im sorry to read this
but you'll get used to it in a few weeks and its still purified

but honestly sometimes when its hot and im thirsty the tap water tastes devine

 

[Daisys and Diamonds]

@MamaBee what about some fresh lemon slices /juice in your water ?

 

[MamaBee]

@Daisys and Diamonds Thank you..I’ve been drinking Dasani purified water. I actually like it. I think they add minerals to it.

I just purchased this stevia extract from Whole Foods. I read this particular one has a pleasant taste. I just used it for my hazelnut tea. It says to use 1-4 drops..I had to use 8. It tastes pretty good but the hazelnut flavor may be helping. I’ll give it the ultimate test when I have it in my coffee tomorrow morning. It’s expensive. It was over $7 for 2 fluid ounces. You do use drops so I guess it lasts a while.

 

[MamaBee]

Ok..I’m having my coffee with the above Whole Foods Organic Stevia liquid extract. It’s a winner for me! It doesn’t have a weird or bitter taste. I like my coffee pretty sweet so I always used five packets of Truvia in my 16 ounce mug. I have to use 11 drops to where I can taste sweetness. It’s pretty good! This is a keeper!

 

[Demon]

Ok..I’m having my coffee with the above Whole Foods Organic Stevia liquid extract. It’s a winner for me! It doesn’t have a weird or bitter taste. I like my coffee pretty sweet so I always used five packets of Truvia in my 16 ounce mug. I have to use 11 drops to where I can taste sweetness. It’s pretty good! This is a keeper!

It doesn't taste like licorice? Because that's why I've never used it - hearing it has an anise flavor. I hate licorice.

 

[MamaBee]

It doesn't taste like licorice? Because that's why I've never used it - hearing it has an anise flavor. I hate licorice.

I hate licorice too. It really didn’t have a flavor I could recognize. I will taste one drop on my tongue to see if I can taste anything other than some sweetness. I can’t try it now because I had a Hershey kiss.

 

[Calliecake]

Now i want Hershey kisses!

 

[MamaBee]

@Demon I just had my first cup of coffee..Before I drank it I dropped one drop of the Whole Foods Stevia extract on my tongue to see if it tasted like licorice. It doesn’t taste like it at all..to me anyway. I do taste the alcohol and something else but not licorice. The only things I sweeten are my coffee and hazelnut tea. I use one tablespoon of hazelnut creamer in my coffee so it could affect how the whole cup of coffee tastes because there is a sugar free sweetener in there..along with the Hazelnut flavoring. That’s sweetened with Sucralose and something else..but not erithrytol. Since it’s only 1 tbsp I’m not worried about them.

 

[Demon]

@Demon I just had my first cup of coffee..Before I drank it I dropped one drop of the Whole Foods Stevia extract on my tongue to see if it tasted like licorice. It doesn’t taste like it at all..to me anyway. I do taste the alcohol and something else but not licorice. The only things I sweeten are my coffee and hazelnut tea. I use one tablespoon of hazelnut creamer in my coffee so it could affect how the whole cup of coffee tastes because there is a sugar free sweetener in there..along with the Hazelnut flavoring. That’s sweetened with Sucralose and something else..but not erithrytol. Since it’s only 1 tbsp I’m not worried about them.

Thank you. I'll pick some up and give it a try. Not going to give up my caramel macchiato creamer though, no matter which sweetener it has in it. Coffee is just not worth drinking if I can't make it taste like something other than coffee.

 

[MamaBee]

Thank you. I'll pick some up and give it a try. Not going to give up my caramel macchiato creamer though, no matter which sweetener it has in it. Coffee is just not worth drinking if I can't make it taste like something other than coffee.

I agree..That’s why I still use my Hazelnut creamer. As long as it doesn’t t have Erythritol or Aspartame I’m good. I only use one tablespoon anyway.

 

[Demon]

I agree..That’s why I still use my Hazelnut creamer. As long as it doesn’t t have Erythritol or Aspartame I’m good. I only use one tablespoon anyway.

I use considerably more creamer than you, but not very much erythritol or sugar.

 

[MissGotRocks]

I just measured the amount in my little sugar spoon. I am using 1/2 tsp. a day of Truvia in my single cup of coffee. If that is enough to kill me then so be it — lol! I guess I could switch back to sugar but that would probably take one teaspoon to match the sweetness.

 

[MamaBee]

I broke down and added one packet of Splenda to my drops of Stevia Extract. I’m addicted to the sweetness.

 

[Calliecake]

Does Splenda have this? I looked at the box and didn‘t see this listed as an ingredient.

 

[MamaBee]

Does Splenda have this? I looked at the box and didn‘t see this listed as an ingredient.

No..but it has Dextrose, Maltodextrin, and Sucralose. I only used one packet..so not as bad as the five I would normally use..The Stevia extract helped me use less of the Splenda. I like my coffee sweet.

 

[MamaBee]

I gave my coffee extra drops this morning of the Whole Foods Stevia extract to make it as sweet as when I used Truvia. It really tastes good now. I don’t even need the Splenda. The next time I go I’ll get the larger bottle. This will be a keeper for me.

 

[Demon]

I gave my coffee extra drops this morning of the Whole Foods Stevia extract to make it as sweet as when I used Truvia. It really tastes good now. I don’t even need the Splenda. The next time I go I’ll get the larger bottle. This will be a keeper for me.

There isn't a Whole Foods really close to me, but I did look up what they have at King Soopers - they even have a caramel, a vanilla & orange stevias. I'll try the caramel first, as it will blend in with my creamer well. The orange sounds good for tea...

Edit - the ones at Kings have to be shipped from Vitacost. Everything else seems to be a blend of stevia and erythritol. I'll have to check Amazon. I don't want to buy a large amount till I find out if I like it.