Erythritol sweetener found to markedly raise clotting

[MamaBee]

I am not making any changes either. For better or worse much of what we eat is contaminated with so many things. I was dismayed to learn exactly what is in much of our food. We have poisoned our water and land and environment no doubt about it. It's overwhelming. So yeah this is not going to change my habits because I have made as many changes as I am willing to at this moment in time.

And make mo mistake about it anything you are substituting with has its own issues. Including real sugar.

@missy You eat such a clean diet anyway. What do you use to sweeten your coffee? I’ll buy that..It would be much better than what I could come up with..

 

[lala646]

I've never been able to tolerate erythritol, even though I think the flavor is more "natural". For my morning tea, I do a 50/50 sugar/Splenda mix, and for baking I usually do all Splenda, or 50/50 depending on the item.

 

[MamaBee]

I would love some healthcare professionals to comment on what they are doing for themselves. I know they can’t make recommendations..but knowing what they choose to use would be very helpful. TIA

 

[LightBright]

I used SIX packets in my gigantic mug of decaf coffee every morning. I’m on a diet so I also used a good squirt of Hershey’s Sugar Free syrup on half cup 1/2 fat ice cream every evening. I had bottles of the stuff in my cabinet. I figured I would use all the sugar free stuff until I got down to the weight I wanted to be..Everything went into the trash after I read this. I’m hating my coffee this morning. I’m using Sweet N Low until I can figure out how to substitute my Truvia.

I wonder if pure Stevia would work for you. I’m throwing out my Truvia, as it’s bulked up with erythritol. Though I wonder about using too much pure Stevia, it’s a plant not a polyol.

 

[missy]

@missy You eat such a clean diet anyway. What do you use to sweeten your coffee? I’ll buy that..It would be much better than what I could come up with..

I use a mix of splenda and Stevita which actually can be made with erythritol or xylitol. Pick your poison lol

Stevita Supreme with Xylitol Pouch - 8oz

Stevita Supreme—A Sugar-Sweet, Mouth-Watering, Zero-Carb Blend of 100% Organic Stevia and Xylitol. Now in a convenient pouch with a built in pour spout and a cap to keep it fresh!!! Wrap your lips around the sugar-sweet flavor of Stevita Supreme; a one-of-a-kind blend of Stevita fair trade...

stevitanaturals.com

With Xylitol

Stevita Organic Spoonable - 1000 packets bulk

Stevita Organic Spoonable Stevia—An Organic Stevia Blend So Indulgent, You Could Eat It By The Spoonful! Stevita Organic Spoonable Stevia is a meticulously crafted, sugar-free, artificial-sweetener-free blend of Stevita organic Brazilian stevia and organic, non-GMO erythritol from tapioca root...

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With erythritol

 

[MamaBee]

I use a mix of splenda and Stevita which actually can be made with erythritol or xylitol. Pick your poison lol

Stevita Supreme with Xylitol Pouch - 8oz

Stevita Supreme—A Sugar-Sweet, Mouth-Watering, Zero-Carb Blend of 100% Organic Stevia and Xylitol. Now in a convenient pouch with a built in pour spout and a cap to keep it fresh!!! Wrap your lips around the sugar-sweet flavor of Stevita Supreme; a one-of-a-kind blend of Stevita fair trade...

stevitanaturals.com

With Xylitol

Stevita Organic Spoonable - 1000 packets bulk

Stevita Organic Spoonable Stevia—An Organic Stevia Blend So Indulgent, You Could Eat It By The Spoonful! Stevita Organic Spoonable Stevia is a meticulously crafted, sugar-free, artificial-sweetener-free blend of Stevita organic Brazilian stevia and organic, non-GMO erythritol from tapioca root...

stevitanaturals.com

With erythritol

Thanks @missy! I will check out the first poison!

 

[MamaBee]

I wonder if pure Stevia would work for you. I’m throwing out my Truvia, as it’s bulked up with erythritol. Though I wonder about using too much pure Stevia, it’s a plant not a polyol.

Thank you..I’m going to check out Stevia in the Raw..

 

[pearlsngems]

I'm just going back to not sweetening my iced tea/ herbal tea at all. Sweeteners of all kinds can mess with the gut microbiome anyway.

 

[Alistra]

We use NuNaturals Organic Pure Stevia

Thank you..I’m going to check out Stevia in the Raw..

You might want to take a look at NuNaturals. They make some sweeteners blended with other ingredients, but we use their Organic Pure Stevia product, which is 100% stevia. It's not bitter and works well in our tea. https://www.nunaturals.com/collections/powdered-sweeteners/products/organic-pure-stevia We also use their 100% monk fruit for oatmeal, baking, etc.

 

[MamaBee]

We use NuNaturals Organic Pure Stevia


You might want to take a look at NuNaturals. They make some sweeteners blended with other ingredients, but we use their Organic Pure Stevia product, which is 100% stevia. It's not bitter and works well in our tea. https://www.nunaturals.com/collections/powdered-sweeteners/products/organic-pure-stevia We also use their 100% monk fruit for oatmeal, baking, etc.

Thank you! I see I would have to get the organic loose Stevia because the packets have maltodextrin…I will give it a try..

 

[TooPatient]

I'm just going back to not sweetening my iced tea/ herbal tea at all. Sweeteners of all kinds can mess with the gut microbiome anyway.

I prefer almost all tea and herbal tea unsweetened now. It took a little adjusting when I stopped sweetening, but that was probably 15 years ago and I don't miss it now. Unless I am driving through the south in which case I will enjoy sweet tea every chance I get! (So far, that was one long drive so it isn't a regular event!) Same thing with coffee which I usually drink black now.

 

[Demon]

I'm kind of torn. I don't think I use a whole lot of it, it seems to be just one study and the people were already at risk? I'll probably use it sparingly, as I do now, until we know more. But I do thank you, @pearlsngems for the heads up!

 

[stracci2000]

I bought spoonable Splenda Stevia to put in my daily cup of tea, but I hated it. I still have it, and I just looked at the label and it contains erythritol.
Yes it was sweet, but in a weird artificial way. So I went back to sugar.

 

[MamaBee]

I'm kind of torn. I don't think I use a whole lot of it, it seems to be just one study and the people were already at risk? I'll probably use it sparingly, as I do now, until we know more. But I do thank you, @pearlsngems for the heads up!

It’s in so many things. I’ve been reading labels on everything. I‘m so happy my no sugar Zero Water is sweetened with Stevia leaf. I live on that stuff.

 

[MamaBee]

I bought spoonable Splenda Stevia to put in my daily cup of tea, but I hated it.
Yes it was sweet, but in a weird artificial way. So I went back to sugar.

I bought a small box of Splenda to get me through until I can order the organic Stevia powder. We’re leaving on Saturday for a few days. I don’t want it sitting outside for days. I’m pretty sure I tried Stevia years ago. I remember it being bitter tasting..

 

[Daisys and Diamonds]

this sounds a bit out there
but before covid the main NZ sugar manufater/refiner made this low GI sugar
it was cain sugar but they did something to it ???
it was a brown colour and quite exspensive
there were mixed reviews about how good or not good it was
when it first come out some nutritions poo-pooed it
but its compoletly dissapired

i mean it would still make one fat !

https://www.chelsea.co.nz/files/3214/7070/6599/CHELSEA_LowGi_Fact_File2.pdf

 

[Daisys and Diamonds]

I bought spoonable Splenda Stevia to put in my daily cup of tea, but I hated it. I still have it, and I just looked at the label and it contains erythritol.
Yes it was sweet, but in a weird artificial way. So I went back to sugar.

i find all those zero/low cal drinks taste awful
weird awful

 

[MamaBee]

i find all those zero/low cal drinks taste awful
weird awful

I agree..The only drink I like is zero sugar Zero Water…Açaí blueberry. It’s sweetened with real fruit juices and stevia leaf extract. The combination is tasty to me..It’s not sweet but has a nice flavor. I just can’t drink plain water.

 

[Daisys and Diamonds]

I agree..The only drink I like is zero sugar Zero Water…Açaí blueberry. It’s sweetened with real fruit juices and stevia leaf extract. The combination is tasty to me..It’s not sweet but has a nice flavor. I just can’t drink plain water.

i drink tap water
Gary wont and we have to buy him water
some tap water tastes better than others
the water is hard here but it tastes ok,
the water down home was also hard but tasted terrible

 

[MamaBee]

i drink tap water
Gary wont and we have to buy him water
some tap water tastes better than others
the water is hard here but it tastes ok,
the water down home was also hard but tasted terrible

I don’t trust drinking the water from the tap. We buy purified water in the gallon jugs to make coffee. My husband buys the little ones to drink..I just drink my Zero water.

 

[Daisys and Diamonds]

I don’t trust drinking the water from the tap. We buy purified water in the gallon jugs to make coffee. My husband buys the little ones to drink..I just drink my Zero water.

at work they get a big container of local springwater delivered for us to drink/make our tea & coffee with. the spring is here in town but comes from up country a bit, but its because of the mess the hard water makes of the jug, thats why Gary wont drink it, big pieces of lime scale peel off the insde of the electric jug, so we pass the boiling water through a little sieve to make tea at home
but the actually coffe machine at work that is owned by coke we just fill from the tap

some of that bottled 'spring' water can just come from a tap in someone else's town

but i dont think id want to be drinking tap water from somewhere like East Palestine Ohio right now

 

[pearlsngems]

at work they get a big container of local springwater delivered for us to drink/make our tea & coffee with. the spring is here in town but comes from up country a bit, but its because of the mess the hard water makes of the jug, thats why Gary wont drink it, big pieces of lime scale peel off the insde of the electric jug, so we pass the boiling water through a little sieve to make tea at home
but the actually coffe machine at work that is owned by coke we just fill from the tap

some of that bottled 'spring' water can just come from a tap in someone else's town

but i dont think id want to be drinking tap water from somewhere like East Palestine Ohio right now

We have a well with hard water. When lime scale builds up in our tea kettle, I put white vinegar in it, enough to cover the affected area, and leave it overnight. The vinegar dissolves the scale. The next day I just rinse it out.

 

[MamaBee]

at work they get a big container of local springwater delivered for us to drink/make our tea & coffee with. the spring is here in town but comes from up country a bit, but its because of the mess the hard water makes of the jug, thats why Gary wont drink it, big pieces of lime scale peel off the insde of the electric jug, so we pass the boiling water through a little sieve to make tea at home
but the actually coffe machine at work that is owned by coke we just fill from the tap

some of that bottled 'spring' water can just come from a tap in someone else's town

but i dont think id want to be drinking tap water from somewhere like East Palestine Ohio right now

We don’t drink spring water. We only drink purified water since I read that spring water can be contaminated by runoff from the ground with E. Coli from animals. I would rather drink tap water than spring water.

 

[lulu_ma]

Ok, I tried living without my Lakanto for a few days it didn't go well. I just can't stand the stevia aftertaste.

I have decided to compromise. I was using at least 24 gm of erythritol in my coffee a day. I switched to the Lakanto packets which are concentrated and have 3 gm per packet. I will limit myself to 6 gm a day and enjoy my coffee.

I would love to see more studies done on this.

 

[pearlsngems]

I squirted some Splenda brand monkfruit liquid (does not contain erythritol) into my rose lemonade tea and hated it.
*sigh*
I'm returning a large unopened bag of Lakanto golden monkfruit/erythritol sweetener to BJ's today.

 

[Lookinagain]

I've never found a sugar substitute that I like as I always get the after taste, so I've stuck with sugar my whole life, or use Agave in a few things. If I wanted to lose weight, I'd give up food before giving up the sugar in my coffee (or chocolates or wine)

 

[Daisys and Diamonds]

We don’t drink spring water. We only drink purified water since I read that spring water can be contaminated by runoff from the ground with E. Coli from animals. I would rather drink tap water than spring water.

im sure they test it

anyway lucky we live in a world where we have consummer choice

 

[Demon]

We don’t drink spring water. We only drink purified water since I read that spring water can be contaminated by runoff from the ground with E. Coli from animals. I would rather drink tap water than spring water.

Wouldn't you love finding out that that spring water had been contaminated by human campers? To me that would be even worse than animals.

 

[ame]

I am not making any changes either. For better or worse much of what we eat is contaminated with so many things. I was dismayed to learn exactly what is in much of our food. We have poisoned our water and land and environment no doubt about it. It's overwhelming. So yeah this is not going to change my habits because I have made as many changes as I am willing to at this moment in time.

And make mo mistake about it anything you are substituting with has its own issues. Including real sugar.

EXACTLY! We are just trading one for another.

 

[missy]

From

Dr. David Jockers
​

"
Does erythritol increase heart attacks and early death?
This is a classic example of linking correlation with causation and has brought a lot of confusion to well intentioned health consumers.
A recent study published in Nature Medicine found that higher blood levels of erythritol are associated with an increased risk of blood clotting, stroke, heart attack, and death.
As is all too often the case, the media has distorted the findings of this study with headlines like “Erythritol increases the risk of heart attacks and stroke, study finds!”
But that’s not what the study found at all. It simply determined that people with higher blood levels of erythritol have a greater risk of cardiac events and death.
There are a few problems here:
First, the researchers didn’t measure erythritol intake, they only measured levels of erythritol in the blood.
This is a huge omission because previous studies have shown that consumption of excess fructose and glucose can lead to elevated serum erythritol levels.
Basically the body can produce erythritol endogenously through the pentose phosphate pathway.
So measuring blood erythritol levels may be looking more at endogenous erythritol production than consumption.
So the conclusion is that we don’t yet know if the elevated levels of erythritol in the blood are causing the higher risk of cardiac events, or whether they are simply a marker for another underlying cause (like excess fructose and glucose consumption).
Other studies have shown that erythritol improved endothelial function and have shown that it reduces a cardiovascular disease promoting periodontal pathogen.
So the takeaway from the study is that the individuals who were obese were endogenously producing erythritol and that they were metabolically damaged and inflamed and that is the reason for the increased risk of blood clotting and heart attacks and not the consumption of the erythritol sweetener.
So we don’t need to freak out and throw out all your erythritol products, however I do believe we should be doing more studies on sugar alcohols in general.

"