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jim16

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I just bought my lady a lovely white gold bespoke star-shaped pendant with a .25 K, ''very good'' cut, VS1, G colour GIA certified diamond set in the middle.

The stone was set almost flush into the 18k white gold pendant.

Now, i''m nervous I should have gone for an F colour, or higher even, for peace of mind to push it into that really colourless bracket...

It looks lovely, and I realise it''s only a little stone, but I want it to be just right for her - something special.

Because it''s set in metal all the way around it, does detract from the point of getting a higher quality diamond than I have? That was implied by some of the jewelers i visited?

Am I worrying for no reason?
 
Quite honestly you could go even lower for color and never notice a difference...instead I would swap for an ideally cut stone, that is where the sparkle really comes from.

And those jewelers don't really know what they are talking about if they think the bezel is the reason not to go higher on color...there are other reasons not to go higher as I mentioned, but the bezel isn't one of them. The one thing that a bezel will take away is light return if the diamond isn't a great cut, so as I said before, that is where I would spend my money personally.
 
interesting, thanks for the tip.

so, you reckon the difference between IDEAL and VERY GOOD is a significant one then? Will it make a real difference in a stone of that size set in that way?

thanks again for your thoughts...
 
Date: 12/25/2008 5:27:34 PM
Author: jim16
interesting, thanks for the tip.


so, you reckon the difference between IDEAL and VERY GOOD is a significant one then? Will it make a real difference in a stone of that size set in that way?


thanks again for your thoughts...

Yes, there can be a huge difference between an ideal and a very good cut. Many "very good" cut stones aren''t really very good at all unfortunately...and even some of the GIA excellents don''t really pass the test either.

And it makes a difference in stones of any size IMO. For example, it is why some tiny diamonds in eternity bands sparkle like mad and some just look dull, even if the color and clarity is the same.
 
for the color i think you are worrying for no reason. I am very color sensitive, I see it where others do not. Usually when you see color it is from the side of the stone in the body. You won''t see it in a pendent. My two cents.
 
The color should be fine.
 
I think you will be just fine with the color... I just got a pendant for Christmas, and it''s a J color! It''s still quite beautiful and shows up pretty white for the warm color! Here''s a link, just for reference if you would like to see it. (Plus, I like to show off my new sparkles!)
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Ditto everything neatfreak said! I wouldn''t worry about the color at all, but I''d want an ideal cut to make it sparkle as much as possible, even in a smaller size. A better cut makes a diamond look whiter anyhow.
 
Date: 12/25/2008 10:29:12 PM
Author: Tuckins1
I think you will be just fine with the color... I just got a pendant for Christmas, and it''s a J color! It''s still quite beautiful and shows up pretty white for the warm color! Here''s a link, just for reference if you would like to see it. (Plus, I like to show off my new sparkles!)
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I guess the link didn''t work?!?
Here it is, just in case you want to look!
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Is she wearing it today? I hope you come back and show us a picture!
 
this is all super useful guys... thanks for all your time. though i fear this is the start of a slippery slope for me diamond wise, ive been bitten... haha.

im seeing her tomorrow so will get a pic for show and tell!

so one final question...

if i''m gonna swap her rock for a better cut - what certificate shall i be looking for? i''m getting the vibe the GIA isn''t the guaranteed authority that some claim it is? any thoughts on this? x
 
I also have a J color pendant, and the color is not noticeable at all! Mine is bezel set. Another PSer has a beautiful M color bezel set pendant. I agree with dropping the color down to I, J, K...whatever gets you an ideal cut stone in your price range, and maybe bigger than 0.25 if you can afford it! Nothing wrong with that size, but the neck is a big place, so I''d go as big as possible in a pendant without sacrificing cut quality.
 
My jeweler (and good friend) once told me that for earrings and necklaces, you can go a bit lower (G-H or even up to J) for the diamond color grading because it''s not too noticeable.

Any pictures yet?
 
Date: 12/26/2008 10:29:55 AM
Author: jim16
this is all super useful guys... thanks for all your time. though i fear this is the start of a slippery slope for me diamond wise, ive been bitten... haha.

im seeing her tomorrow so will get a pic for show and tell!

so one final question...

if i''m gonna swap her rock for a better cut - what certificate shall i be looking for? i''m getting the vibe the GIA isn''t the guaranteed authority that some claim it is? any thoughts on this? x
You are right. As far as color and clarity go, they''re totally reliable but unfortunately, their cut grading is quite lacking. I know from experience, as I has a GIA "excellent" cut that I ended up having recut. If you don''t want to get into all the numbers, you could stick with an AGS-0 diamond. They grade on light performance, which is what the real concern is and they are much more reliable. If you do want to find a GIA stone, great ones are out there but you''ll need to know more of the numbers. Get the table, depth, crown and pavilion ANGLES (not just percentages) and run it through the Holloway Cut Advisor you can find on the main page. Anything that scores under two is worth futher consideration. The only other problem I can think of with the GIA is that they also round their numbers, so the HCA results might not be as accurate as it would for an AGS stone, since they don''t round up or down. A lot of people also want idealscope images, ASET images, Sarin reports, etc. This does seem like an incredible amount of work for a diamond pendant I know! But to be quite honest, that''s why I''d just stick with an AGS-0. That''s how you''ll know you''re getting the most sparkle you can, WITHOUT all the homework. Good luck!
 
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