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DejaWiz said:
Looks like it has a bit of symmetry wonkiness:

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The crown angle would be considered a bit steep for the 40.8° pavilion angle, 50% stars, and 75% lowers.

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All seems so complicated could you have some recommandations in that case?
 
Tori canonne said:
All seems so complicated could you have some recommendations in that case?
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I absolutely can make some recommendations for guaranteed extreme performing diamonds, but they will be a bit under your target carat weight/diameter, even if we reduce the color and/or clarity grades...the first link will be of great benefit with an eye to the future, however.

Lifetime Upgrade Guarantee | Whiteflash

A great upgrade policy is a big deal when buying a diamond. Whiteflash has the best benefits in the business including a 100% Lifetime Upgrade Guarantee.
www.whiteflash.com

Diamond | 1.225 ct G VS2 A CUT ABOVE® Hearts and Arrows Super Ideal Round Cut Loose Diamond AGS Certified | 4494795

This Whiteflash A CUT ABOVE® super ideal cut hearts and arrows 1.225 carat G color VS2 clarity loose diamond is graded by the American Gem Society (AGS) Laboratories. | 4494795
www.whiteflash.com

Diamond | 1.233 ct F SI1 A CUT ABOVE® Hearts and Arrows Super Ideal Round Cut Loose Diamond AGS Certified | 4430028

This Whiteflash A CUT ABOVE® super ideal cut hearts and arrows 1.233 carat F color SI1 clarity loose diamond is graded by the American Gem Society (AGS) Laboratories. | 4430028
www.whiteflash.com

Diamond | 1.258 ct I VS1 A CUT ABOVE® Hearts and Arrows Super Ideal Round Cut Loose Diamond AGS Certified | 4558467

This Whiteflash A CUT ABOVE® super ideal cut hearts and arrows 1.258 carat I color VS1 clarity loose diamond is graded by the American Gem Society (AGS) Laboratories. | 4558467
www.whiteflash.com

Diamond | 1.320 ct I VS1 A CUT ABOVE® Hearts and Arrows Super Ideal Round Cut Loose Diamond AGS Certified | 4453018

This Whiteflash A CUT ABOVE® super ideal cut hearts and arrows 1.320 carat I color VS1 clarity loose diamond is graded by the American Gem Society (AGS) Laboratories. | 4453018
www.whiteflash.com
 
DejaWiz said:
I absolutely can make some recommendations for guaranteed extreme performing diamonds, but they will be a bit under your target carat weight/diameter, even if we reduce the color and/or clarity grades...the first link will be of great benefit with an eye to the future, however.

Lifetime Upgrade Guarantee | Whiteflash

A great upgrade policy is a big deal when buying a diamond. Whiteflash has the best benefits in the business including a 100% Lifetime Upgrade Guarantee.
www.whiteflash.com

Diamond | 1.225 ct G VS2 A CUT ABOVE® Hearts and Arrows Super Ideal Round Cut Loose Diamond AGS Certified | 4494795

This Whiteflash A CUT ABOVE® super ideal cut hearts and arrows 1.225 carat G color VS2 clarity loose diamond is graded by the American Gem Society (AGS) Laboratories. | 4494795
www.whiteflash.com

Diamond | 1.233 ct F SI1 A CUT ABOVE® Hearts and Arrows Super Ideal Round Cut Loose Diamond AGS Certified | 4430028

This Whiteflash A CUT ABOVE® super ideal cut hearts and arrows 1.233 carat F color SI1 clarity loose diamond is graded by the American Gem Society (AGS) Laboratories. | 4430028
www.whiteflash.com

Diamond | 1.258 ct I VS1 A CUT ABOVE® Hearts and Arrows Super Ideal Round Cut Loose Diamond AGS Certified | 4558467

This Whiteflash A CUT ABOVE® super ideal cut hearts and arrows 1.258 carat I color VS1 clarity loose diamond is graded by the American Gem Society (AGS) Laboratories. | 4558467
www.whiteflash.com

Diamond | 1.320 ct I VS1 A CUT ABOVE® Hearts and Arrows Super Ideal Round Cut Loose Diamond AGS Certified | 4453018

This Whiteflash A CUT ABOVE® super ideal cut hearts and arrows 1.320 carat I color VS1 clarity loose diamond is graded by the American Gem Society (AGS) Laboratories. | 4453018
www.whiteflash.com
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What I was trying to type before is exactly what deja said here. You'll be hard pressed to find an ideal cut stone that's 1.5ct for 10k unless it's a very low color. But for 10k you can definitely find an ideal cut stone that's 1.2-1.3ct in G/H/I range.
 
DejaWiz said:
I absolutely can make some recommendations for guaranteed extreme performing diamonds, but they will be a bit under your target carat weight/diameter, even if we reduce the color and/or clarity grades...the first link will be of great benefit with an eye to the future, however.

Lifetime Upgrade Guarantee | Whiteflash

A great upgrade policy is a big deal when buying a diamond. Whiteflash has the best benefits in the business including a 100% Lifetime Upgrade Guarantee.
www.whiteflash.com

Diamond | 1.225 ct G VS2 A CUT ABOVE® Hearts and Arrows Super Ideal Round Cut Loose Diamond AGS Certified | 4494795

This Whiteflash A CUT ABOVE® super ideal cut hearts and arrows 1.225 carat G color VS2 clarity loose diamond is graded by the American Gem Society (AGS) Laboratories. | 4494795
www.whiteflash.com

Diamond | 1.233 ct F SI1 A CUT ABOVE® Hearts and Arrows Super Ideal Round Cut Loose Diamond AGS Certified | 4430028

This Whiteflash A CUT ABOVE® super ideal cut hearts and arrows 1.233 carat F color SI1 clarity loose diamond is graded by the American Gem Society (AGS) Laboratories. | 4430028
www.whiteflash.com

Diamond | 1.258 ct I VS1 A CUT ABOVE® Hearts and Arrows Super Ideal Round Cut Loose Diamond AGS Certified | 4558467

This Whiteflash A CUT ABOVE® super ideal cut hearts and arrows 1.258 carat I color VS1 clarity loose diamond is graded by the American Gem Society (AGS) Laboratories. | 4558467
www.whiteflash.com

Diamond | 1.320 ct I VS1 A CUT ABOVE® Hearts and Arrows Super Ideal Round Cut Loose Diamond AGS Certified | 4453018

This Whiteflash A CUT ABOVE® super ideal cut hearts and arrows 1.320 carat I color VS1 clarity loose diamond is graded by the American Gem Society (AGS) Laboratories. | 4453018
www.whiteflash.com
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A great benefit in terms of what I should look for? Is it necessary for all things to be this perfect for the diamond to still at least not look whited out such as my previous diamond?
Also what would be the going price for a 1.5 such as what I already have I am set on the size. If it was your opinion would you rather have a smaller diamond with higher quality compared to a bigger stone with Maybe not all of these parameters?
 
lovedogs said:
What I was trying to type before is exactly what deja said here. You'll be hard pressed to find an ideal cut stone that's 1.5ct for 10k unless it's a very low color. But for 10k you can definitely find an ideal cut stone that's 1.2-1.3ct in G/H/I range.
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What should you expect for a 1.5 ideal cut stone?
 
Garry H (Cut Nut) said:
I only have theroies.
Partly because they use the wrong lighting and equipment. Partly because it's an IBM GIA AI project. Partly because high res videos made by stitching still photos together (that consumers are never shown) enable trade people to see better than GIA salaried staff.
Etc
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Sort of a bummer it seems so hard to figure it all out unless your an expert..
I really want to stay in my size range(1.5) and I want good sparkle but im also mostly concerned that it doesn't look yellow and doesn't white out like this current diamond did. I also don't want to be able to see inclusions with the naked eye which to me means I should choose at least vs2? But is it really necessary for the cut to otherwise be so perfect?
 
DejaWiz said:
I absolutely can make some recommendations for guaranteed extreme performing diamonds, but they will be a bit under your target carat weight/diameter, even if we reduce the color and/or clarity grades...the first link will be of great benefit with an eye to the future, however.

Lifetime Upgrade Guarantee | Whiteflash

A great upgrade policy is a big deal when buying a diamond. Whiteflash has the best benefits in the business including a 100% Lifetime Upgrade Guarantee.
www.whiteflash.com

Diamond | 1.225 ct G VS2 A CUT ABOVE® Hearts and Arrows Super Ideal Round Cut Loose Diamond AGS Certified | 4494795

This Whiteflash A CUT ABOVE® super ideal cut hearts and arrows 1.225 carat G color VS2 clarity loose diamond is graded by the American Gem Society (AGS) Laboratories. | 4494795
www.whiteflash.com

Diamond | 1.233 ct F SI1 A CUT ABOVE® Hearts and Arrows Super Ideal Round Cut Loose Diamond AGS Certified | 4430028

This Whiteflash A CUT ABOVE® super ideal cut hearts and arrows 1.233 carat F color SI1 clarity loose diamond is graded by the American Gem Society (AGS) Laboratories. | 4430028
www.whiteflash.com

Diamond | 1.258 ct I VS1 A CUT ABOVE® Hearts and Arrows Super Ideal Round Cut Loose Diamond AGS Certified | 4558467

This Whiteflash A CUT ABOVE® super ideal cut hearts and arrows 1.258 carat I color VS1 clarity loose diamond is graded by the American Gem Society (AGS) Laboratories. | 4558467
www.whiteflash.com

Diamond | 1.320 ct I VS1 A CUT ABOVE® Hearts and Arrows Super Ideal Round Cut Loose Diamond AGS Certified | 4453018

This Whiteflash A CUT ABOVE® super ideal cut hearts and arrows 1.320 carat I color VS1 clarity loose diamond is graded by the American Gem Society (AGS) Laboratories. | 4453018
www.whiteflash.com
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Thanks for all the recommendations it seems they are all from the same place "whiteflash" is that the only place you recommend?
 
DejaWiz said:
Looks like it has a bit of symmetry wonkiness:

Screenshot_20230101-162553-212.png


The crown angle would be considered a bit steep for the 40.8° pavilion angle, 50% stars, and 75% lowers.

cutprofile.jpg
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What do you mean by symmetry wonkiness?
 
Tori canonne said:
What do you mean by symmetry wonkiness?
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Twisted pavilion (the areas that I circled). Either a bad cutter that has made some mistakes or a really good cutter that did it on purpose to sacrifice some beauty while preserving a little extra carat weight to drive the price up.

Whiteflash, Victor Canera, Brian Gavin, Continental Diamond, JannPaul, and some others frequently recommended here at PriceScope all place diamond cut precision and maximum optical performance as their top priorities.

Because of their upgrade programs, I wouldn't necessarily have any qualms about starting out with a slightly smaller diameter now since the sheer amount of light return their diamonds will exhibit are going to make it appear bigger and much brighter than a slightly larger but poorly proportioned diamond in comparison.

Will it be noticable? Perhaps.
I wish that I could give a definitive answer, but I cannot. There are so many variables in play when it comes to comparing just two diamonds, let alone many...even between SIC diamonds there are differences that can and do affect the optical properties.

Here is a thread that goes into further detail:

Lighting: Can good look bad, and bad look good?

From time to time we read here that the kind and amount of lighting can fool the eye to an extent when it comes to judging diamond cut quality. Of course, in absolute terms, all diamonds are equal in a dark room, but this does not prove that all diamonds are equal under equal amounts and types...
www.pricescope.com

And this post in particular is noteworthy:

Lighting: Can good look bad, and bad look good?

From time to time we read here that the kind and amount of lighting can fool the eye to an extent when it comes to judging diamond cut quality. Of course, in absolute terms, all diamonds are equal in a dark room, but this does not prove that all diamonds are equal under equal amounts and types...
www.pricescope.com

It is entirely at your sole discretion whether or not you want to go the SIC route and make some sacrifices to things like color, clarity, and carat/spread while keeping in mind that you will have to incrementally upgrade over the future to get to the carat/spread that you are wanting now. I fully understand that this means you'll have to spend even more money here and there as time goes by. The diamonds may be super ideal, but for many of us shoppers, the added expense each couple/few years isn't a super ideal circumstance.

There is also the option of finding an LGD with superior optics which will save you an exorbitant amount of money now, but you lose the allure and mystique of hundreds of millions of years old in the making. Viable path if your goal is visual beauty over origin.

Surprise Upgrade for The Missus - First Ritani Purchase

For those that may have read some of my previous comments here and there: I have been planning a surprise upgrade for my wife for about a year. My initial plan got a little displaced since the recent announcement of LGD versions of JannPaul's delicious Decagon. After a bit of communication (and...
www.pricescope.com
 
I think you have a couple options. If you need to stay at $10,000, G, VS2, you could reach out to Jon at Distinctive Gem or David at Diamonds by Lauren. I would have full confidence that they could pick a beautiful stone for you, and they would have it in hand, and fully vetted. The the milkiness that you saw in your first stone is an example of something that is not apparent just from the certificate numbers, or even from pictures or videos on the website. Since it only happens in certain lighting conditions, someone needs to assess the stone in person to discover it. Jon or David would fully vet the stone for you. They would also be fully transparent about any trade-offs you’d be making to stay at your budget, so at least you would understand exactly what you were getting and be ok with it. You could reach out to them just to talk. There’s no cost to doing that and it might be good to see if you would want to work with them.
You could also look at whiteflash expert selection instead of ACA. Those will cost a little less and still be very well performing stones, and I think still eligible for upgrade.
We can also search and make suggestions for stones from Ritani for you. I think that would be the lowest cost option. But you would still have to assess the stone in person once you got it to make sure you liked it. Something like the milkiness would not be apparent, and you have to see it in person and be ready to return it if you didn’t like it.
What direction sounds good to you?
 
Tori canonne said:
What should you expect for a 1.5 ideal cut stone?
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Do you want to stay in the near colorless range (e.g. I or above)?

If yes, then probably between 12-15k.

Some examples here:

1.411ct I VS2 Super Ideal Hearts & Arrows H&A AGS Loose Diamond | Victor Canera

1.411 Carat I Color VS2 Clarity Super Ideal Hearts & Arrows H&A Round loose natural diamond with Ideal Cut proportions certified by AGS laboratories.
www.victorcanera.com www.victorcanera.com

Diamond | 1.547 ct I VS2 A CUT ABOVE® Hearts and Arrows Super Ideal Round Cut Loose Diamond AGS Certified | 4203991

This Whiteflash A CUT ABOVE® super ideal cut hearts and arrows 1.547 carat I color VS2 clarity loose diamond is graded by the American Gem Society (AGS) Laboratories. | 4203991
www.whiteflash.com
 
$16-28k for colorless grades D-F to "very safe" perceptible colorless G (for most eyes) in the 1.45-1.55 range.
You could also search up to I-J color if you feel you'd be fine with slight hue (still tons of white light return).

Loose Cut Diamonds for Sale: Discover Exceptional Quality

Explore our GIA certified loose diamonds, including Hearts & Arrows (H&A) and super ideal cuts. Buy diamonds that offer brilliance, style, and fit your budget.
www.whiteflash.com

I'm also including a link to the PS diamond search engine with some filters pre-set.
Keep in mind that the HCA is a mass rejection tool instead of an individual selection tool, so each and every diamond would still need to be assessed - it merely just narrows down the vast field of diamonds into a smaller more manageable list of prime candidates for scrutinizing.
...this search link also includes VG since many of those can be perfectly fine.
Feel free to adjust the filters as desired.

Diamond Search Results | Real-time Information on 1,000,000+ Diamonds | PriceScope

PriceScope's Diamond Search is the best place to find the best diamond prices. Search and compare over a million natural, lab and fancy color diamonds.
www.pricescope.com www.pricescope.com
 
Here's a 1.43 H SI1 ACA (7.3mm diameter) with a completely clean table, beautiful 40.7/35/54.1 combo with a taller 16% crown height... perfect recipe for an edge with sparkle and fire!
Inclusions in the crown area are often easily concealed/obscured with prongs by savvy setting.

Diamond | 1.434 ct H SI1 A CUT ABOVE® Hearts and Arrows Super Ideal Round Cut Loose Diamond AGS Certified | 4529769

This Whiteflash A CUT ABOVE® super ideal cut hearts and arrows 1.434 carat H color SI1 clarity loose diamond is graded by the American Gem Society (AGS) Laboratories. | 4529769
www.whiteflash.com
 
DejaWiz said:
Twisted pavilion (the areas that I circled). Either a bad cutter that has made some mistakes or a really good cutter that did it on purpose to sacrifice some beauty while preserving a little extra carat weight to drive the price up.

Whiteflash, Victor Canera, Brian Gavin, Continental Diamond, JannPaul, and some others frequently recommended here at PriceScope all place diamond cut precision and maximum optical performance as their top priorities.

Because of their upgrade programs, I wouldn't necessarily have any qualms about starting out with a slightly smaller diameter now since the sheer amount of light return their diamonds will exhibit are going to make it appear bigger and much brighter than a slightly larger but poorly proportioned diamond in comparison.

Will it be noticable? Perhaps.
I wish that I could give a definitive answer, but I cannot. There are so many variables in play when it comes to comparing just two diamonds, let alone many...even between SIC diamonds there are differences that can and do affect the optical properties.

Here is a thread that goes into further detail:

Lighting: Can good look bad, and bad look good?

From time to time we read here that the kind and amount of lighting can fool the eye to an extent when it comes to judging diamond cut quality. Of course, in absolute terms, all diamonds are equal in a dark room, but this does not prove that all diamonds are equal under equal amounts and types...
www.pricescope.com

And this post in particular is noteworthy:

Lighting: Can good look bad, and bad look good?

From time to time we read here that the kind and amount of lighting can fool the eye to an extent when it comes to judging diamond cut quality. Of course, in absolute terms, all diamonds are equal in a dark room, but this does not prove that all diamonds are equal under equal amounts and types...
www.pricescope.com

It is entirely at your sole discretion whether or not you want to go the SIC route and make some sacrifices to things like color, clarity, and carat/spread while keeping in mind that you will have to incrementally upgrade over the future to get to the carat/spread that you are wanting now. I fully understand that this means you'll have to spend even more money here and there as time goes by. The diamonds may be super ideal, but for many of us shoppers, the added expense each couple/few years isn't a super ideal circumstance.

There is also the option of finding an LGD with superior optics which will save you an exorbitant amount of money now, but you lose the allure and mystique of hundreds of millions of years old in the making. Viable path if your goal is visual beauty over origin.

Surprise Upgrade for The Missus - First Ritani Purchase

For those that may have read some of my previous comments here and there: I have been planning a surprise upgrade for my wife for about a year. My initial plan got a little displaced since the recent announcement of LGD versions of JannPaul's delicious Decagon. After a bit of communication (and...
www.pricescope.com
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mayaINaU said:
I think you have a couple options. If you need to stay at $10,000, G, VS2, you could reach out to Jon at Distinctive Gem or David at Diamonds by Lauren. I would have full confidence that they could pick a beautiful stone for you, and they would have it in hand, and fully vetted. The the milkiness that you saw in your first stone is an example of something that is not apparent just from the certificate numbers, or even from pictures or videos on the website. Since it only happens in certain lighting conditions, someone needs to assess the stone in person to discover it. Jon or David would fully vet the stone for you. They would also be fully transparent about any trade-offs you’d be making to stay at your budget, so at least you would understand exactly what you were getting and be ok with it. You could reach out to them just to talk. There’s no cost to doing that and it might be good to see if you would want to work with them.
You could also look at whiteflash expert selection instead of ACA. Those will cost a little less and still be very well performing stones, and I think still eligible for upgrade.
We can also search and make suggestions for stones from Ritani for you. I think that would be the lowest cost option. But you would still have to assess the stone in person once you got it to make sure you liked it. Something like the milkiness would not be apparent, and you have to see it in person and be ready to return it if you didn’t like it.
What direction sounds good to you?
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I think ritani stones and assessing in person may be a good option for me considering I'm really trying to stay in the near colorless range at 1.5 carats. So in a sense I maybe need to find a good deal and hold out for it.. I also feel I will pick up on inclusions with the nake eye if it goes under vs2 since im rather sensitive to noticing imperfections.. so it seems like I'll be having to try out near perfect cuts and visualize in person if they're good enough for me? I don't totally know though I'm feeling pretty lost about it all because there's so much information so I will also try to reach out for a conversation with the recommended professionals. I'm just trying to understand more now. Thank you for helping!
It sounds like most people here think you should search for the perfect cut above all else however so I'm feeling lost how to proceed, I just don't want to be lesser with the size.. sigh...
 
DejaWiz said:
Here's a 1.43 H SI1 ACA (7.3mm diameter) with a completely clean table, beautiful 40.7/35/54.1 combo with a taller 16% crown height... perfect recipe for an edge with sparkle and fire!
Inclusions in the crown area are often easily concealed/obscured with prongs by savvy setting.

Diamond | 1.434 ct H SI1 A CUT ABOVE® Hearts and Arrows Super Ideal Round Cut Loose Diamond AGS Certified | 4529769

This Whiteflash A CUT ABOVE® super ideal cut hearts and arrows 1.434 carat H color SI1 clarity loose diamond is graded by the American Gem Society (AGS) Laboratories. | 4529769
www.whiteflash.com
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I think looking at these I can start to visualize the cut patterns.. however I'm concerned when looking at one's such as this that they are too included and I would be able to notice it by nake eye since I'm pretty sensitive to noticing that.. I'm concerned I need to stay at least at vs2 to actually be where it's seemingly eye clean for me..
 
DejaWiz said:
$16-28k for colorless grades D-F to "very safe" perceptible colorless G (for most eyes) in the 1.45-1.55 range.
You could also search up to I-J color if you feel you'd be fine with slight hue (still tons of white light return).

Loose Cut Diamonds for Sale: Discover Exceptional Quality

Explore our GIA certified loose diamonds, including Hearts & Arrows (H&A) and super ideal cuts. Buy diamonds that offer brilliance, style, and fit your budget.
www.whiteflash.com

I'm also including a link to the PS diamond search engine with some filters pre-set.
Keep in mind that the HCA is a mass rejection tool instead of an individual selection tool, so each and every diamond would still need to be assessed - it merely just narrows down the vast field of diamonds into a smaller more manageable list of prime candidates for scrutinizing.
...this search link also includes VG since many of those can be perfectly fine.
Feel free to adjust the filters as desired.

Diamond Search Results | Real-time Information on 1,000,000+ Diamonds | PriceScope

PriceScope's Diamond Search is the best place to find the best diamond prices. Search and compare over a million natural, lab and fancy color diamonds.
www.pricescope.com www.pricescope.com
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Thank you for including this it will help with my search I think H would be my limit as far as hue goes I certainly don't want to pick up on any yellowness..

What is VG?
 
Tori canonne said:
Thank you for including this it will help with my search I think H would be my limit as far as hue goes I certainly don't want to pick up on any yellowness..

What is VG?
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VG = Very Good for the HCA rank whereas EX = Excellent
 
Tori canonne said:
I think looking at these I can start to visualize the cut patterns.. however I'm concerned when looking at one's such as this that they are too included and I would be able to notice it by nake eye since I'm pretty sensitive to noticing that.. I'm concerned I need to stay at least at vs2 to actually be where it's seemingly eye clean for me..
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Stick to what you're comfortable with. Clean to the mind can be far more important than clean to the eyes for lots of folks.
 
DejaWiz said:
Twisted pavilion (the areas that I circled). Either a bad cutter that has made some mistakes or a really good cutter that did it on purpose to sacrifice some beauty while preserving a little extra carat weight to drive the price up.

Whiteflash, Victor Canera, Brian Gavin, Continental Diamond, JannPaul, and some others frequently recommended here at PriceScope all place diamond cut precision and maximum optical performance as their top priorities.

Because of their upgrade programs, I wouldn't necessarily have any qualms about starting out with a slightly smaller diameter now since the sheer amount of light return their diamonds will exhibit are going to make it appear bigger and much brighter than a slightly larger but poorly proportioned diamond in comparison.

Will it be noticable? Perhaps.
I wish that I could give a definitive answer, but I cannot. There are so many variables in play when it comes to comparing just two diamonds, let alone many...even between SIC diamonds there are differences that can and do affect the optical properties.

Here is a thread that goes into further detail:

Lighting: Can good look bad, and bad look good?

From time to time we read here that the kind and amount of lighting can fool the eye to an extent when it comes to judging diamond cut quality. Of course, in absolute terms, all diamonds are equal in a dark room, but this does not prove that all diamonds are equal under equal amounts and types...
www.pricescope.com

And this post in particular is noteworthy:

Lighting: Can good look bad, and bad look good?

From time to time we read here that the kind and amount of lighting can fool the eye to an extent when it comes to judging diamond cut quality. Of course, in absolute terms, all diamonds are equal in a dark room, but this does not prove that all diamonds are equal under equal amounts and types...
www.pricescope.com

It is entirely at your sole discretion whether or not you want to go the SIC route and make some sacrifices to things like color, clarity, and carat/spread while keeping in mind that you will have to incrementally upgrade over the future to get to the carat/spread that you are wanting now. I fully understand that this means you'll have to spend even more money here and there as time goes by. The diamonds may be super ideal, but for many of us shoppers, the added expense each couple/few years isn't a super ideal circumstance.

There is also the option of finding an LGD with superior optics which will save you an exorbitant amount of money now, but you lose the allure and mystique of hundreds of millions of years old in the making. Viable path if your goal is visual beauty over origin.

Surprise Upgrade for The Missus - First Ritani Purchase

For those that may have read some of my previous comments here and there: I have been planning a surprise upgrade for my wife for about a year. My initial plan got a little displaced since the recent announcement of LGD versions of JannPaul's delicious Decagon. After a bit of communication (and...
www.pricescope.com
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What would you expect the twisted Pavillion to cause in terms of how the diamond looks?

And rereading through this I see the comment of a better cut appearing bigger is this just because of the wow factor of the sparkle that it would seem more impressive?

Also I noticed on one of the upgrade programs it had to mean you would spend double the original price, do you know if this is true for all fo them?

I'm definitely not attracted to lab diamonds however I like the idea of a earth created stone..

I will read these articles although both the links on my end look to be the same?


Thank you so much for your time given to advize
 
We are all perfectionists and a little obsessive…That’s how we found our way here! But I do think that getting the most perfect cut you can for your money is going to be worth it. You will never regret doing that extra vetting. Mine is a lab diamond so I can’t post it in this forum, but I got it from Jon at Distinctive Gem and I LOVE it. You’re going to be staring at this ring on your hand every day for hopefully many years to come so you want it to wow you. Just my opinion!
 
If you have any interest, my Brian Gavin recut, AGS Ideal 000, is actually for sale on the Distinctive Gem website. It is a 1.2 ct, I, VS2, so smaller than you wanted. However, it is just perfect in terms of performance. https://www.distinctivegem.com/coll...arts-arrows-round-brilliant-ideal-cut-diamond. Brian Gavin is truly gifted in his recutting. I only didn't keep it because I am more of an old cut gal.
 
fel said:
If you have any interest, my Brian Gavin recut, AGS Ideal 000, is actually for sale on the Distinctive Gem website. It is a 1.2 ct, I, VS2, so smaller than you wanted. However, it is just perfect in terms of performance. https://www.distinctivegem.com/coll...arts-arrows-round-brilliant-ideal-cut-diamond. Brian Gavin is truly gifted in his recutting. I only didn't keep it because I am more of an old cut gal.
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Thanks but that's much smaller in mm than what I currently have and am looking to match. I'm nor interested in downsizing. Good luck with your sale!
 
mayaINaU said:
We are all perfectionists and a little obsessive…That’s how we found our way here! But I do think that getting the most perfect cut you can for your money is going to be worth it. You will never regret doing that extra vetting. Mine is a lab diamond so I can’t post it in this forum, but I got it from Jon at Distinctive Gem and I LOVE it. You’re going to be staring at this ring on your hand every day for hopefully many years to come so you want it to wow you. Just my opinion!
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Haha well said this made me laugh. I was like ya that's true that's why I'm here.
And thats why I did decide on returning the last ring realizing I just needed to look down and be wowed and not just temporarily excited!
 
Tori canonne said:
From my understanding it's not a good choice when the gia report says additional cloud not shown?
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That can sometimes be the case. If you like the diamond, I'd put it on hold and ask them to bring it in and evaluate it with one of their in-house gemologists.
 
Tori canonne said:
From my understanding it's not a good choice when the gia report says additional cloud not shown?
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Grading comment: "Clouds not shown"?

Hi everyone, Is the grading comment "clouds not shown" a cause for concern in a VS1 AGS 000 diamond? Clarity setting inclusion is listed as a feather, then crystal, then needle. Appear to be one of each on the plot. Does the comment just mean that any clouds were insignificant in assessing the...
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