Got "Spare"?

[whitewave]

And it begins. This is the second veiled threat I have seen to Harry:

 

[whitewave]

Of course you know that Camilla and Jeremy Clarkson are friends, correct? Just google it.

here is part of Jeremy Clarkson’s article about Meghan as mentioned by Andedson Cooper: (rose west is a serial killer btw)

And then a day or two later, Camilla attended a holiday party with him and other Meghan abusers who are Camilla’s friends also:

Camilla attends star-studded Christmas party in central London

The Queen Consort has been photographed chatting with high-profile guests at a Christmas party she attended in central London earlier this week.

www.dailymail.co.uk

There are receipts for what Harry said if you look for them.

 

[Bron357]

The problem I have with them is they say one thing and do another. And they make stuff up.
All. The. Time.
I don’t blame them saying a Royal life isn’t for them and that they want their privacy.
However, they want to use their Royal titles at every opportunity to get people to pay attention and money to them and they have exposed virtually every part of their lives, and their kids, through their Netflix shows and now the book.

 

[HGar]

For some who have said they aren’t really interested you seem to be pretty invested. The monarchy will not fail because of these two - it lasted a long time through more troubled times and will continue as such in the smaller setup that King Charles has decreed.

If Harry and Meghan are so aghast at this decision and therefore how they are reporting to be treated by the family then they should hand back all titles and royal ties other then Harry’s Prince - this is a birthright and cannot be taken away.

The press is just as rotten in the US as it is in the UK - I firmly believe that Harry and Meghan have leaked just as much as the staff of the RF so whining about it is slightly off.

For me it’s the constant whinging about how much harder their lives are and that no other couple is more deeply in love with each other. You don’t build up your relationship by tearing down others.

Harry is in for the money now - that’s fine, it’s his story to tell however you don’t do it without expecting some kind of a reaction. The royal family will not play their responses out in public and why would they, it will just become fodder for the couple’s next book / interview.

 

[whitewave]

Montecito is getting Evacuated for flood warnings and here is some fresh racism for you:

 

[HGar]

Whitewave I think you are reading into this whatever you want. Literally the only person in that screenshot talking anything racist is apparently a Meghan supporter. The initial post said nothing about colour.

 

[whitewave]

Whitewave I think you are reading into this whatever you want. Literally the only person in that screenshot talking anything racist is apparently a Meghan supporter. The initial post said nothing about colour.

It’s the original poster who said black ass. Did you not see that?

Did you even read the entire text and comments? It seems like you didn’t.

Why would a Meghan supporter wish Harry and Meghan’s house and only their house to flood?

I’m really confused by your post.

 

[kenny]

... I think he is much happier now in California. ...

Here in California, we all ready had plenty of royalty, what with all of us Queens running around.

 

[jordyonbass]

Didn't even know it's a thing, you'd think I would keep track of family affairs better than this

 

[Daisys and Diamonds]

It was on TV over in UK last night, I did not watch it, however, there was an article in the newspaper. I read the headline, rolled my eyes and moved on.

DK

the man child would be a joke if he isnt obvesouly suffering from a mental illness
he seems to be allinagting anyone who might genuingly care about him
those Afgani comments were very stupid
some on at penguin should have pulled that bit for his own safety

i read an artile here this morning about all the people who have it reserved at the library

 

[Daisys and Diamonds]

The ironic thing is people who are supposedly in the know say William and Kate haven’t lived together since early 2022. Harry sort of alluded to it in one of his interviews (I don’t remember which one and I haven’t seen them all) when talking about the rest of the family taking the helicopter to Balmoral when the queen was dying and said offhand that “some people don’t live together”…. But in the end, Kate didn’t go to balmoral. So IDK. I‘m not doing a deep dive on that. It’s their business and I don't doubt that sometimes people separate for a time during a marriage.

didnt Kate have to pick the kids up from their first day at school that day
to tell them about granny before they found out from some other kid at school

 

[Daisys and Diamonds]

If you really want to see how bad it can get with people, just take a look around the internet.

Some of these people are really extraordinarily out there with their opinion: she used a surrogate, they don’t live together are getting a divorce and Harry has already been back in the UK negotiating with his dad how to get back into the royal family. There are no kids, the royal family is playing the long game, she was a prostitute. And that is the tame stuff.

It’s really really crazy out there. People really did discuss stabbing her in the belly when she was pregnant with Archie because they knew she was faking pregnancy.

And none of that even touches the racist stuff: he should have married an English rose, he married “that”, she has a wig/weave and it is a mess, she isn’t black enough so she uses bronzer to make herself fake black. She said she was white on a resume (it’s an open website where anyone can put what they want). They deny she is black and then they also say she isn’t black enough.

I mean it’s just nuts out there.

Harry and Meghan are dammed if they do and dammed if they don’t.

year i saw those commnets a wee while ago in the comment section of some UK online rags
i was really horrified people would say stuff like that

 

[Christinak]

I’ve heard ten times more of his whingeing in the newspapers than I ever wanted to without reading the book. The two of them banging on about their privacy and independence, then taking every possible opportunity to force themselves into the spotlight, just makes me think of them with total contempt. A one trick pony - nothing of interest to share save for airing their dirty laundry and moaning about their families. At first I felt sorry for Harry being married to her, now I think they thoroughly deserve each other.

I haven’t read the whole thread because frankly I can’t stand the noise around this that’s in the uk right now. Like @Ionysis i am confused about the way they seek out the spotlight and then say they want their privacy. This comment from pretty much sums up what my feelings are on the matter.

Frankly I am just glad the queen isn’t here to live through yet another scandal from her whinging family who think the world owes them something!

 

[HGar]

Sorry I misread the quote above - teach me not to skim read as I deal with tradesmen, run a business and try to cook a birthday cake all at once.

Threats to anyone’s safety are never right or permissible nor is racism.

My issue is that they will never be happy, like to blame others whilst never accepting any responsibility. Then add in trying to skew their actions / statements from years past to being something completely different is annoyingly hypocritical.

Give up your titles, live your life in California surrounded by your loved ones but don’t forget there is always 3 sides to every story - yours, mine and the truth somewhere in the middle.

 

[whitewave]

Prince Harry's memoir Spare is 'fastest-selling non-fiction book ever'

One of the first customers who queued up to get her hands on the explosive memoir, Spare, said that she was "excited" to hear from Prince Harry "in his words".

news.sky.com

“The Duke of Sussex's autobiography is the fastest-selling non-fiction book ever, recording figures of 400,000 copies so far across hardback, ebook and audio formats on its first day of publication.

Larry Finlay, managing director of Transworld Penguin Random House, said; "We always knew this book would fly but it is exceeding even our most bullish expectations”

(Uk sales)

 

[whitewave]

I’m on chapter 20. It’s good. It’s sad. It’s well written and slow in some parts but engrossing in others. It’s chock full of information so I’m trying to go slow.

 

[Elizabeth35]

Yes-his ghost writer, J. R. Moehringer, is well-regarded in the ghost writer world.

The bits I have read were, well, tawdry.
I won't read the book as I am not particularly interested in a ghost written book about a royal.
Meghan is 'magic' because she sings to seals. That was actually a painful excerpt to read. The poor man.
But to each his/her own.

 

[smitcompton]

hI,
Frankly, I like these two less and less. They seem so immature and whiny. I guess I think this spectacle they are creating is made of petty complaints that a mature couple could handle easily. Who could have greater access to the people that could change the institutional norms of the monarchy, but Harry himself with his father. You want autonomy and freedom (like a teenager)-just do it, you are a grown-up now.
Diana was so young and we could see she was heartbroken. Charles loved someone else. All three handled that circumstance better than these two. They won't hurt the monarchy. They don't even stand to reform it, which they might have done, to make it less constrictive for all. The Netherlands has done so and I believe the Nordic countries have as well.
Actually, these two discust me. Sorry, its how I feel.

Annette

 

[canuk-gal]

HI:

They create the tempest then complain about the rain. The most interesting thing about this couple, is that, they are not very interesting.

cheers--Sharon

 

[Tartansparkles]

hI,
Frankly, I like these two less and less. They seem so immature and whiny. I guess I think this spectacle they are creating is made of petty complaints that a mature couple could handle easily. Who could have greater access to the people that could change the institutional norms of the monarchy, but Harry himself with his father. You want autonomy and freedom (like a teenager)-just do it, you are a grown-up now.
Diana was so young and we could see she was heartbroken. Charles loved someone else. All three handled that circumstance better than these two. They won't hurt the monarchy. They don't even stand to reform it, which they might have done, to make it less constrictive for all. The Netherlands has done so and I believe the Nordic countries have as well.
Actually, these two discust me. Sorry, its how I feel.

Annette

I'm not sure that Harry's goal is to change the monarchy, but to change its relationship with the British tabloid press. Or indeed, to take on the British tabloid press - I think he mentioned as much during the UK interview that was broadcast on Sunday evening. During this interview it was confirmed that Harry is involved in legal proceedings (with others) against two or three tabloid papers in relation to phone hacking. Will they hurt the monarchy? I'm not sure. People who are for 'queen and country' will jump on that particular bandwagon (I know the queen is gone but I personally won't be entertaining the idea of a king). Those who believe that the nonsense of kings and queens should quietly be put to bed will be hoping that the behaviour of all involved will dampen any enthusiasm to keep the royal institution going. What I really don't get is the hate that is pointed towards them (Harry and Megan).

Harry also mentioned that the conflict and division is created by the press. No party will be entirely innocent in that regard, but I can easily believe that the more conflict that is created, the more money the tabloid newspapers stand to make.

Edited for spelling

 

[Box]

Surprised so far 400,000 people want to waste hard earned cash on the book most of it has already been published online thanks to Spain.

The revelations seem far to intimate does the world population need to know his little fella got frost bite very random.

The 'kill' total isn't something military talk about even in the mess. Only in movies. This would seem to be very poor judgement hasn't he just opened his family up to Taliban pot-shots including their two little ones for the rest of their life and a much larger security budget.

I have a big grievance with him speaking for William fine him telling and selling his own 'truth' story but not speaking for and assuming how William is or was feeling. He has just treated his brother how he claims the press treat him.

I feel sorry for Megs saddled with this guy I doubt she will last the distance bet she thought she was getting a well-heeled well connected intelligent British guy who would smooth her path to the White House - Think again girl. He is a liability.

Then comes the drugs taking admission I would imagine any other person would now get marched to a plane and sent home from the US not this one must be the advantage of his royal status.

I did and to some degree sympathise with how he was forced to deal with his mother's passing. The loss of a parent or any loved one lasts a lifetime but at some point, you have to stop dining out on the agony and actually seek help in living with the loss.

Another statement he made was he dialled his therapist before he informed Meghan after his brother knocked him to the floor so contrary to what megs said in the Oprah interview, he did have the means to assist her with her mental health issues. Sad in my view he doesn't have the mental or emotional capability to shake much of this stuff off.

Apparently 3 more books in the pipeline the mind boggles as to what else he will reveal.

 

[whitewave]

Surprised so far 400,000 people want to waste hard earned cash on the book most of it has already been published online thanks to Spain.

The revelations seem far to intimate does the world population need to know his little fella got frost bite very random.

The 'kill' total isn't something military talk about even in the mess. Only in movies. This would seem to be very poor judgement hasn't he just opened his family up to Taliban pot-shots including their two little ones for the rest of their life and a much larger security budget.

I have a big grievance with him speaking for William fine him telling and selling his own 'truth' story but not speaking for and assuming how William is or was feeling. He has just treated his brother how he claims the press treat him.

I feel sorry for Megs saddled with this guy I doubt she will last the distance bet she thought she was getting a well-heeled well connected intelligent British guy who would smooth her path to the White House - Think again girl. He is a liability.

Then comes the drugs taking admission I would imagine any other person would now get marched to a plane and sent home from the US not this one must be the advantage of his royal status.

I did and to some degree sympathise with how he was forced to deal with his mother's passing. The loss of a parent or any loved one lasts a lifetime but at some point, you have to stop dining out on the agony and actually seek help in living with the loss.

Another statement he made was he dialled his therapist before he informed Meghan after his brother knocked him to the floor so contrary to what megs said in the Oprah interview, he did have the means to assist her with her mental health issues. Sad in my view he doesn't have the mental or emotional capability to shake much of this stuff off.

Apparently 3 more books in the pipeline the mind boggles as to what else he will reveal.

Except from 2013:

 

[Box]

Except from 2013:

The issue is rehashing it 10 years later and giving a confirmed number from his own lips. The internet is far bigger and trawled by world 'leaders' and its citizens today than it was then. It brings it to the for front of people's minds who had long forgotten or didn't even read a British rag back then when dug into the sand or mountains of Afghan. Plus, he wasn't married with children at risk and was very well protected. A very silly boy.

 

[whitewave]

The issue is rehashing it 10 years later and giving a confirmed number from his own lips. The internet is far bigger and trawled by world 'leaders' and its citizens today than it was then. It brings it to the for front of people's minds who had long forgotten or didn't even read a British rag back then when dug into the sand or mountains of Afghan. Plus, he wasn't married with children at risk and was very well protected. A very silly boy.

Meh. I believe the taliban knew Brit’s killed them, you know… war and all.

 

[whitewave]

Chapter 33: oh hell to the no. No. No. No. this is BS. Whoa.

 

[whitewave]

One more:

 

[Elizabeth35]

Thank you for sharing 3 pages.
It confirms my initial suspicion that I have no interest in purchasing the book.
And if that is the best that a respected ghost-writer can pen---egads.

 

[whitewave]

I’ll share more if I think it’s of interest. I’m listening to the audio book and reading along because I want to hear his inflections and tone.

I stopped for today. He just graduated from Eton and is headed to his gap year, first Australia to work on a farm and then to Lesotho.

 

[whitewave]

It's a blast watching Harry and Meghan beat the press at its own game

With a controversial onslaught of public disclosure, Harry and Meghan have seized the means of production from a multibillion-dollar royal-watch industry.

www.latimes.com

“It is a quick read, more sad than sensational, ringing with exactly the sort of loneliness, frustration and rebellion one would expect from a still-young, motherless prince whose royal bubble of a life has been narrated through the emotional whipsaw of tabloid headlines. An earnest, almost childlike attempt to explain what that life felt like to the boy and man inside the bubble.”

“More important, it is the capstone of a personal disclosure campaign that puts Lena Dunham to shame. That the royal family is a chilly, oppressive and internally competitive institution that will eat its young to survive can come as no surprise to anyone with knowledge of Princess Diana’s life and death or Peter Morgan’s highly regarded royal multiverse of “The Queen” and “The Crown.”

“There is something hypnotic about a narrative that contains, at one end, the endurance of inarguable racism, sexism and sheer hatefulness and, on the other, painstaking clarifications of who made who cry over Princess Charlotte’s flower girl’s dress.

Whether or not Harry and Meghan are good, bad or even interesting people, their ability to drive the press crazy by giving them exactly what they want — endless royal content — while wresting control of the narrative and getting a whole lot of money to boot is astonishing to watch.”

Snipped

Goodnight, everyone.

 

[kenny]

What does the NYT have to say today?

The Rollout of Prince Harry’s Book Is Chaotic. Sales Are Still Surging. (Published 2023)

A litany of leaks and interview clips before the book’s publication has made the process hard for the publisher to control, but has also driven early interest.

www.nytimes.com

SNIP-O-RAMA

By Alexandra Alter and Elizabeth A. Harris
Published Jan. 7, 2023
Updated Jan. 10, 2023, 11:18 a.m. ET

The details streaming from leaks and interview teasers in advance of Prince Harry’s memoir, “Spare,” have been sensational, even explosive. News organizations around the world have covered them breathlessly.
There’s Harry’s description of his brother, William, knocking him to the floor during a fight, and Harry’s admission that he killed 25 people in Afghanistan. There’s also his claim that William and his wife, Kate, encouraged him to dress up as a Nazi, and his recollection of losing his virginity to an older woman in a field behind a bar.

A tell-all by a member of the British royal family was bound to be a nightmare to manage. Big books, widely anticipated books, will often leak, despite publishers’ best attempts to keep the process tightly orchestrated. But the contents of Harry’s memoir have been excavated to such a degree that it has raised the question: Will readers still be curious enough to buy the book?

So far, it looks like the answer is yes. The media frenzy seems to be driving interest in the memoir, which is due out Tuesday. “Spare” held the No. 1 spot on Amazon in the United States and Britain on Friday, as well as at Barnes & Noble. Booksellers and distributors said that preorders are enormous and growing with the avalanche of press coverage.

Still, the extraordinary volume of leaks highlighted the challenges, and perhaps the impossibility, of choreographing the release of what may be the most anticipated and divisive celebrity memoir of all time.

Prince Harry Gets Personal​

The release of Prince Harry’s memoir, “Spare,” had been a hotly anticipated affair, with leaked passages and pre-publication interviews.​

• Release in Britain: As bookstores placed the book in window displays across the country on Jan. 10, reaction among the British public appeared muted.
• The Book Cover: “If Harry is bidding to position himself, like his mother before him, as the people’s prince, this is his heraldic banner,” Vanessa Friedman writes of the prince’s portrait.
• The Ghostwriter: J.R. Moehringer has a reputation for intense work habits, along with a good sense of humor and strong opinions. He is also known for his discretion.
• A Chaotic Rollout: A litany of leaks and interview clips before the book’s publication made the process hard for the publisher to control but also drove early interest.

Many of the memoir’s eye-popping revelations have already spilledin leaks, and some of the most dramatic moments from the interviews Harry gave promoting the book have circulated onlineas teasers. This was all preceded by a six-part Netflix documentary, “Harry & Meghan,” which aired in December, and where Harry made incendiary accusations against his family, including a claim that his brother’s communications aides planted negative stories about his wife, Meghan Markle, in the London tabloids.

Despite the risk that blanket coverage could lead to Harry and Meghan fatigue, many booksellers expect the memoir to be an unmitigated success. Random House has said it is printing 2.5 million hardcover copies for North America alone. Ingram, the book wholesaler, has 90,000 copies in its warehouses to restock stores that run out. ReaderLink, which distributes books to chain stores like Target and Walmart, said it had ordered about 300,000 copies. Barnes & Noble has also ordered hundreds of thousands of copies.

James Daunt, who heads Barnes & Noble and the British bookstore chain Waterstones, said that even the negative leaks have been driving up customer interest in “Spare,” and that he expects to see “the most extraordinary” first-day and first-week sales.

After The Guardian obtained a copy of the book and revealed some of its biggest bombshells, reservations for in-store purchases of the book shot up in Britain, he said.

“This one has really whipped up a level of press hysteria that I really struggle to think of one that’s comparable,” Daunt said. “All it does is build up this great excitement, which gets people into bookstores.”

Ever since Penguin Random House announced in 2021 that they had acquired a memoir by Harry — who stunned the world when he and his wife announced they were parting ways with the royal family — the book’s content has been the subject of intense speculation in the publishing world, in the British tabloids and among royal watchers.

Publishers often guard against leaks with strict embargoes, in some cases requiring anyone who works on the book, including typesetters and copy editors, to sign nondisclosure agreements. Retailers are often required to sign an affidavit agreeing to store books in a monitored, locked and secure area if they get copies before the on-sale date. Some publishing executives even choose not to send highly anticipated books to airport bookstores because they tend to pay less attention to embargoes.

Matt Latimer, a founder of the literary agency Javelin, which has handled many books by high-profile politicians, said he has never seen an embargoed book leak from within a publishing house or printing plant. It’s in the days before publication, when the books have to be put on trucks and shipped to stores, that the revelations start.

“I call this the danger zone,” Latimer said. “The week or two before publication, there is almost always a leak.”

A simultaneous international release complicates this delicate process further. “Spare” will be released in 16 languages at the same time, multiplying opportunities for leaks: In Spain, the book accidentally went on sale early on Thursday.

Publishing executives say that leaks can be beneficial if they drive the right kind of media coverage, and drum up interest in the book. During the Trump era, some of the most explosive information in tell-all books by journalists and former administration officials often leaked out early and dominated cable news coverage for days, which catapulted titles to the top of the best seller lists. But in some cases, books that are built around news nuggets can see their sales nosedive after the news cycle is exhausted and the media has moved on.

It’s too soon to say whether the overall sales trajectory of Harry’s memoir will be affected by the steady drip of revelations. Many readers will buy the book for an intimate view of Prince Harry’s life from his perspective, not just for bomblets of news. Harry has partnered with a highly regarded ghostwriter, J.R. Moehringer, and a cascade of articles does not offer the same narrative journey as a well-crafted book. And his story, while ripe for tabloid fodder, also deals with universal themes like race, class, and the sometimes tortured relationships between brothers or between fathers and sons.

The book’s title refers to a phrase that Charles is reported to have used to refer to Harry, his second son, as his “spare,” or back up heir, since he’d already secured an heir in Harry’s older brother.
“It’s ridiculous and it’s fun, but it’s also clearly going to be an interesting book that’s going to keep on selling and it’s going to keep on being part of the conversation,” said Daunt, the chief executive of Barnes & Noble.

“We’re making a bet that this book has got legs,” he said. “It’s not going to be a flash in the pan.”