Got "Spare"?

[Box]

I'm not sure about the level of power etc held over British society - many British people would be happy to see the monarchy go. I personally don't see their relevance (I'm in the UK). The queen was maybe a special case but I don't see Charles and the rest gaining anywhere near that level of 'adoration'. When the queen passed away many people queued to pay their respects. There were also many people who rolled their eyes at the idea of spending 18hours in a queue. I'm sure many of the mourners were genuine well wishers but there were also people who queued just so that they could say "they queued!". It will be the same with the coronation. It will be reported that the British people were falling over themselves with street parties galore - in reality, lots of folks will be enjoying an extra day off work with no interest in the coronation whatsoever. (I also suspect that the reason the majority of shops chose to close on the day of the queen's funeral wasn't to give their employees the opportunity to pay their respects but to avoid any possibility (or heaven forbid, national embarrassment) that folks disinterested in a royal funeral might instead choose to do some DIY shopping. How bad would that look for a country so loving of their royal family?). If the British monarchy disappeared overnight there would be an economic impact in terms of job losses (tourist related/royal households etc), charities would need new figure heads to help boost donations, the "OK/Hello" type magazine would be short of a few glamour photos and the press would have less stories to print. Aside from the negative economic impact, I struggle see any downside to them not being there. Hopefully an upside would be a reduction in the level of hate aimed at other human beings and surely a world with less opportunity for hate is a good thing.

I can think of two instead of a none corruptible entity the UK would have to pay out for what are often very corrupt Presidents who wouldn't have the pulling power to bolster trade or time to support charity for UK citizens. The Queen now King provides a third voice possibly of reason or devils advocate for any serving PM.

 

[Ann]

I am not reading the book. I did not watch the Netflix series. But from what I've seen in his interviews and in the press, it saddens me. I truly think he has some serious mental issues and I hope he continues to go to therapy . I hope they find their privacy and live their life. And just be quiet - give us all a break

 

[Austina]

@whitewave, I don’t know what the laws are in the US, but please check you’re not breaching any copyright issues by posting photographed extracts from the book.

 

[whitewave]

@whitewave, I don’t know what the laws are in the US, but please check you’re not breaching any copyright issues by posting photographed extracts from the book.

Thank you. I believe there is a certain percentage you can stay under but it’s a good reminder to check. Thanks for looking out for me!

@Box I agree. I don’t know what is going on with TK Maxx to try and pass it off like they have no sales: a clearance is a sale. Items are marked down. Etc

Its straight up weird.


ETA:
How much of someone else's work can I use without getting permission?
Under the fair use doctrine of the U.S. copyright statute, it is permissible to use limited portions of a work including quotes, for purposes such as commentary, criticism, news reporting, and scholarly reports. There are no legal rules permitting the use of a specific number of words, a certain number of musical notes, or percentage of a work. Whether a particular use qualifies as fair use depends on all the circumstances. See, Fair Use Index, and Circular 21, Reproductions of Copyrighted Works by Educators and Librarians.


The book is 400+ pages, so I think I’m ok.




The book is good. I’m on the Afghanistan years and so going slowly. Nothing exciting going on, just basically job descriptions and who he is serving with etc

 

[whitewave]

Getting to the illegal wiretapping era:

 

[whitewave]

So far, I’m not finding anything offensive to anyone (except the royal correspondents and the British royal media conglomerates and everyone associated with that) except maybe Camilla. Of course, this is through my American eyes.

I guess the tabloids have had complete hysteria about it because Harry is trying to put them out of a job.

Does anyone have any questions?

I’m on part 2: he has had one stint in Afghanistan, came home because his location was leaked, and he and Chelsy broke up. He is now training as a helicopter pilot and has just taken his first hovering and landing test, which he passed.

 

[whitewave]

Here is Today’s bizarre headlines: Airline debunks Harry’s claim he booked air New Zealand for her father from “Mexico to London” when there is no such route.
links:

Harry's Sandhurst classmates poke hole in Duke's Army narrative

Prince Harry opened up about his decade-long career in the military in his new memoir, Spare.

www.express.co.uk

Air New Zealand takes a brutal swipe at Prince Harry

The Duke of Sussex had claimed Meghan purchased a first-class ticket from Mexico to Britain so her father Thomas Markle over concerns of media harassment.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Her father, Thomas Markle, lives in Rosarito. Here is a map.



Where is the closest international airport? Yes, that would be San Diego. Was there an air new Zealand flight from SAN to LHR back then? Yes, there was.

ETA: I realize Tijuana has an international airport, but it also makes sense he would have either went with Doria from LAX (He was papped putting plants on Doria’s porch in LA right before the wedding before it all went down) or SAN. Harry never specified Thomas would leave from Mexico.

(it’s about 42 minutes from Rosarito to TIJ and about 51 minutes to SAN)

From where and what airline did her mother fly to LHR? Air New Zealand from LAX to LHR.

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I find it absolutely bizarre that the tabloids print this. Why? It’s so stupid. It easily proves Harry correct in his complaints about them.

I mean, I realize it’s all about money. But how can they exist and continue to print all of these lies? Is there no bottom?

This just makes no sense to me. I’m befuddled.

 

[ame]

actually I think it’s expert maneuvering. If he tells it all (this is the first of 3 books) then the tabloids have nothing left to discuss. They make up a situation and write 20 articles on that and when that doesn’t happen (because it’s made up) then they write 20 articles on why it didn’t happen.

He is cutting the tabloids off. And the authors who have made money writing about Harry’s life. It’s Harry’s story to tell and I think he has every right to make money off his life story.

He alredy said he is never going back to the royal family. I think he is much happier now in California.



Ask yourself Why daily mail just had a 17 page (PAGE!!!!) insert all about Harry. Ask yourself WHY the tabloids wont stop writing about them.

This!!! Every word of this. I am generally not all that interested one way or another, it's all over the news and internet and it has no effect on my life, but if I had to choose a side, it would be Team Harry because he's taking control of his own life.

 

[whitewave]

Good article: https://archive.ph/wQrMz#selection-2009.0-2009.1143

it’s archived, from Telegraph

snipped

“Prince Harry tells me that the day before I arrived, he put on his waterproofs and headed down to the beach in the pouring rain with his dog, Pula, ignoring all offers of an umbrella from those around him. (I don’t tell him that I already know this, having seen pictures of said outing on a website that morning.)


And yet, even with the threat of mudslides, the Duke of Sussex clearly feels safer here in his Montecito home than he ever did in the royal palaces where he grew up. You could hardly blame him. The house is a sanctuary, surrounded by acres of greenery, complete with chickens, a play area and a teepee so lovely that I find myself jokingly asking if I can move into it. I am taken to a finca-style guest house where I find a generous spread of crudités alongside umpteen types of tea, served, of course, in the finest china. Soft music tinkles in the background. Candles flicker. It would all feel very relaxing, were it not for the fact it is only a matter of hours since the book somehow leaked to The Guardian newspaper and went on sale early at a chain of Spanish book shops.”

snipped

 

[Box]

Harry stated today his novel was originally 800 pages he whittled down (more likely the ghost writer did) to the 400ish published. Revealed he has plenty more for a second and third book. Hinted if the 'family' refuse to listen and apologise for their treatment of Meghan he may reveal stories about his father 'Pa' the media have kept hidden in repayment for being provided stories of other family members. If there are genuinely hidden stories this may call the media's bluff and they go to print before Harry reveals to garner more profits for themselves.

He also said he was doing this to change the family for William and Kate's children (what a kind Uncle not) William said they are not his concern. No wonder William knocked him down most good fathers would. This second rate oik must be driving them mad behind the scenes. I admire their restraint I am behind William on this one. Do keep your shneb out Harry look after your own family. He believes they will thank him later. Not so sure on that one if you are happy being in a gilded cage every whim catered to would you want it destroyed.

I still some sympathy for Harry being the spare must have rankled. William has basically just inherited a billion-dollar business on top of the wealth he already looked after the spare would have got nothing but a possible small personal bequest. A life with no real responsibility glad handing strangers has Meghan said for no renumeration is no way to live and bring up a family in 2023.

Is this all about jealousy probably IMO

 

[whitewave]

Harry stated today his novel was originally 800 pages he whittled down (more likely the ghost writer did) to the 400ish published. Revealed he has plenty more for a second and third book. Hinted if the 'family' refuse to listen and apologise for their treatment of Meghan he may reveal stories about his father 'Pa' the media have kept hidden in repayment for being provided stories of other family members. If there are genuinely hidden stories this may call the media's bluff and they go to print before Harry reveals to garner more profits for themselves.

He also said he was doing this to change the family for William and Kate's children (what a kind Uncle not) William said they are not his concern. No wonder William knocked him down most good fathers would. This second rate oik must be driving them mad behind the scenes. I admire their restraint I am behind William on this one. Do keep your shneb out Harry look after your own family. He believes they will thank him later. Not so sure on that one if you are happy being in a gilded cage every whim catered to would you want it destroyed.

I still some sympathy for Harry being the spare must have rankled. William has basically just inherited a billion-dollar business on top of the wealth he already looked after the spare would have got nothing but a possible small personal bequest. A life with no real responsibility glad handing strangers has Meghan said for no renumeration is no way to live and bring up a family in 2023.

Is this all about jealousy probably IMO

William is correct. While Harry can wonder how it’s going to go for William’s “spares”, in the end it is for William and Kate to handle as they see fit.

 

[whitewave]

I’m probably not going to post any more pics from the book after this. Copyright and all.









And then this one:

 

[kenny]

I’m probably not going to post any more pics from the book after this. Copyright and all.

Too late.

The Director of the Government Patent Office has authorized me to charge, try, convict, and fine you.

Your penalty is 44 billion dollars.
Send it to Kenny, c/o Pricescope within 10 business days.

Though it has acquired a rather Musky smell, I plan to buy Twitter.

 

[whitewave]

Too late.

The Director of the Government Patent Office has authorized me to charge, try, convict, and fine you.

Your penalty is 44 billion dollars.
Send it to Kenny, c/o Pricescope within 10 business days.

Though it has acquired a rather Musky smell, I plan to buy Twitter.

no doubt you would immediately improve twitter, Kenny.

 

[whitewave]

Ok we are out of Afghanistan thank goodness. He is home, dating Cressida, went on a tour of the US (the Vegas incident has already happened years before) and he has come up with the idea of what will become Invictus Games.

He has just realized he has PTSD that began in 1997.

I honest to goodness don’t know what the british media has been hollering about. He speaks very fondly of Charles, who comes across as a very loving, patient and well meaning parent. He speaks very fondly of his grandparents, Diana’s family, his bodyguards.

Yes, the windsors are hug-challenged. He has spoken a few times of wanting to hug them but he knew better. When Harry became an Apache helicopter pilot, Charles pinned his wings and saluted Harry and it’s clear Harry was supremely touched by that, calling it something like the closest thing to intimacy he ever had. (I paraphrased and probably botched it).

William, yeah, he gets a few light digs in about sibling rivalry and from Harry’s POV, William doesn’t like anyone getting above him in terms of rank, success, accomplishments etc. It definitely comes across that they were not close, two people from the same family who shared trauma.

Harry speaks fondly of his friends. You can tell his military career means everything to him.

I don’t recall him bringing up Camilla again, so it’s not like he drags her.

I guess I’m about 1/2 way through. It’s been dry in places, funny in places, sad, touching; basically it has all the qualities of a good book. It’s worth the $22 or however much it’s going for now.

 

[whitewave]

Ok. I’m on part 3 called “captain of my soul”

The boy was gone the minute he saw her on IG with their mutual friend. You can hear it in his voice on the audio book: his voice has become more animated, his inflection on the words different than it had been.

I understand it because this is how it is with my husband and me. Despite marital squabbles, etc, and the passage of time, we are soul mates. If there are past lives, I believe we have always been together and we will always find each other.

I recognize that same belief in Harry. He found his person and that was that.

 

[whitewave]

Today’s craziness. To those who said you would wish they would shut up, I present to you: WHERE IS MEGHAN ???

Meghan blasted for her 'uncharacteristic' no-show since Spare release

Prince Harry has appeared alone to do promo interviews of his book Spare - with little sight of his wife Meghan.

www.express.co.uk

Ok so I realize this refers to a Daily Mail article. Do rags to that? Discuss each other’s BS articles?

SARAH VINE: So where is Meghan? She's usually grafted to Harry's side

SARAH VINE: The real question in my mind is this: where was Meghan? I don't mean in terms of the book - her fingerprints are all over that. I mean physically, where is she?

www.dailymail.co.uk

Some in England are so weird about Meghan Markle.


Her absence isn’t uncharacteristic either. She wasn’t seen for 2 or so months before Archie was born, then she showed him off a few days after birth, and then no one saw her again for several months.

No one knew they were in Canada for 6 weeks. No one knew they were in LA for 6 weeks, etc.

I’m truly befuddled at the group delusion going on about her in the press.

 

[Box]

The poor woman cannot win - I mourn for the past when newspapers reported actual news and didn't try to destroy people for no good reason other than they can. But then there is no money in that is there.

 

[whitewave]

I suspect the are mad he left and is now thriving, so they blame everything on her.
Here is Harry long before he found her saying he wanted to live in Africa. He is on record many times saying he didnt like England and didn’t want to settle there. (Not in this interview but another one, about the same age as he is here)

https://twitter.com/x/status/1615433574869782528

screen shot from the Matt Lauer where Harry basically says he just wants to be Normal.

 

[Daisys and Diamonds]

the book is about $50 here

 

[Austina]

One of the major supermarkets in the UK was advertising it for 8 GBP @Daisys and Diamonds, I think the recommended retail price is 28 GBP.

 

[kenny]

One of the major supermarkets in the UK was advertising it for 8 GBP ... I think the recommended retail price is 28 GBP.

Sounds like a "loss leader", an item put on sale to attract customers who otherwise would not have come into he store.
They do it because the loss leader brings in enough people (who buy enough other stuff) to more than make up for the loss.

Another common loss leader is deeply-discounted turkeys right before those turkey-holidays.

Nothing wrong with that, I'm the kind of A-hole who'd go in to buy ONLY the loss leader.

 

[Daisys and Diamonds]

Sounds like a "loss leader", an item put on sale to attract customers who otherwise would not have come into he store.
They do it because the loss leader brings in enough people (who buy enough other stuff) to more than make up for the loss.

Another common loss leader is deeply-discounted turkeys right before those turkey-holidays.

Nothing wrong with that, I'm the kind of A-hole who'd go in to buy ONLY the loss leader.

at my prevouse empoiyemnt it was $5 bags of large but very smelly compost
cheap also because it was rushed and hadnt had a chance to mature.......

 

[kenny]

at my prevouse empoiyemnt it was $5 bags of large but very smelly compost
cheap also because it was rushed and hadnt had a chance to mature.......

EWW!

To me that doesn't sound like a loss leader.
That sounds like a poor and misrepresented product.

 

[Garnetgirl]

No sure yet if I want to read the book. I don’t generally follow the news about the royal family. I certainly won’t buy the book - I’ll get it from my local library.

 

[Daisys and Diamonds]

EWW!

To me that doesn't sound like a loss leader.
That sounds like a poor and misrepresented product.

yes it was very cheap

actually the supplier just could not keep up with demand
i still have a few bags that are 5 years old
its beautiful now

but poo
in the summer you would get to work and the heat t trapped in that big 'shed' overnight would come woffing out and you
enough to make one keel over