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Help with a marquise ring (~4k budget)

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I'm really looking for some advice from basically start to finish here. I’m currently between a three stone ring and solitaire ring, mostly based on budget. The main diamond will be marquise cut. For ring material it seems like 14k white gold would be my go to being as platinum is such a premium. My girlfriend and I have looked at a few stones and settings in stores to get an idea of what she likes, but that’s as far as her involvement goes. I’d very much appreciate some help with determining who I should contact for vendors given my total budget of $4000. Closer to $3500 would be even better, but I feel like 4K might already be low base on what I’ve seen here. However if you find something you think might fit really well, but is slightly outside that budget I could maybe stretch to $4500.

Partially what I’m kind of stuck on is that it seems there’s a lot more involved/more pitfalls to avoid in choosing a marquise diamond in terms of dimensions/ratios, specs, avoiding the bowtie effect, what’s important for the 4C’s, and probably other things I’ve missed. For color I’d want to stay at the G-H color range or better unless there’s a lot of positive feedback about a little lower. For clarity, I mostly want it to be eye clean from all angles visible within the setting. Carat I’d love to get as close to 1 carat as possible, but know that with the budget restrictions that’s probably not possible. From what I’ve read cut is most important so I’m not looking to compromise there. However it seems that there are no AGS standards and such for marquise cut which is what makes things seem harder to figure out and find the ideal diamond.

I'm certainly no expert so if something I said doesn't make sense, is wrong, or seems like something I should be careful with please let me know! Any and all advice is appreciated!

For the three stone setting my girlfriend liked the square diamond surrounding the marquise. I had also seen a marquise with surrounding pear cuts on bluenile which I thought might be a possibility, but I’m not sure if there are better places to look in terms of quality and price. Plus they don’t have pictures of the actual diamonds and I don't know if I should be buying the setting and diamonds separately.

In general for the band, she wants it to be on the thinner and “dainty” side. Possibly become thinner as it gets closer to the diamond.

I'm very open to suggestions on other vendors, settings, and recommendations on stones! Thanks in advance for helping me sort some of these things out!
 
Out of all the popular vendors on pricescope, I'd recommend contacting Good old gol for a fancy shape like marquise. They can call in a few stones and evaluate light performance for you. Alternately, you can also browse James Allen. They have videos of each stone, which help you greatly selecting stones. You can put three stones on hold and request ASET images from them. Unfortunately, I don't know much about marquise. I'm sure some experts will chime in to help you.
 
Generally a three stone with marquise would be side pears or side baguettes. Are you meaning baguettes when you say square?

http://www.letiziasilvestri.com/media/6902/marquise_ring.jpg

My preference is Good Old Gold for fancy cuts, because they can call in 2 or 3 in your budget range and test light performance for you and even make you a video to compare the stones. That is what I'd do.

And yes, the diamond vendor should set the stone. They can all access a setting with baguette sides. I know Vatche sells one, and Good Old Gold carries Vatche. But there are less expensive brands, too.

(I was searching for the ring picture and didn't realize Sakura had posted the same advice!)
 
That's a really pretty marquise Gypsy.

I'd look at James Allen too. There's just so much selection. Jon can call in a few diamonds for you but he's calling from a list too and can't tell if they'll be good until they get there. There's just so much selection at JA. Or alternatively, do both.
 
What about this
http://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/marquise-cut/0.81-carat-f-color-si1-clarity-sku-230711

With this setting
http://www.jamesallen.com/engagement-rings/side-stones/14k-white-gold-tapered-baguette-diamond-engagement-ring-item-7101


I have about a .9 marquise in a setting quite similar to this. Its thin like you said she likes, very similar to a solitaire, but honestly just the addition of those baguettes make it look much more classic and a bit more sophisticated.

I assume this is what you meant by squares?

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First you guys are awesome! I'll definitely check out all the recommendations and probably have JA and GOG pull in a few to examine.

diamondseeker2006|1392611136|3616762 said:
Generally a three stone with marquise would be side pears or side baguettes. Are you meaning baguettes when you say square?
Niel|1392644708|3616905 said:
I assume this is what you meant by squares?

I didn't know that pears or baguettes was generally what was used with marquise diamonds. When we looked they were actually princess cut sides. However, similarly to how I felt about pear sides, I think that baguettes are also something that would look nice.

Gypsy|1392657688|3617020 said:
That gives you three, with the one I picked and the one Neil picked. You can put them on hold (no cost, no obligation) ask for an ASET image and the gemologist's opinion of them.

What should I be looking for in an ASET image and asking the gemologist about specifically for a marquise and/or diamonds in general?
 
Niel|1392644708|3616905 said:
What about this
http://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/marquise-cut/0.81-carat-f-color-si1-clarity-sku-230711

With this setting
http://www.jamesallen.com/engagement-rings/side-stones/14k-white-gold-tapered-baguette-diamond-engagement-ring-item-7101


I have about a .9 marquise in a setting quite similar to this. Its thin like you said she likes, very similar to a solitaire, but honestly just the addition of those baguettes make it look much more classic and a bit more sophisticated.

Niel any idea how big the marquise in your example picture is? I'm having a hard time figuring out proportionally how everything looks depending on diamond size. It doesn't help that JA doesn't have a pictures of their settings with marquise diamonds at all. Slightly spatially/artistically challenged over here lol.
 
That a picture directly off their site. They say it's a 1.23 ish.

But I do believe an 80 pointer would be quite sufficient To look and large in that setting. Mine is approximated to face up as a 90 pointer. Though I'm not sure the exact.
Hope this helps. Mine sits up a tad high Which makes it look a bit bigger. But still, that combo posted above would be a very nice size. That's the nice thing about marquise. They look large for their ctw.

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I would go with James Allen. I got a beautiful marquise D color Si1 clarity though only .52 carat and then found a setting at a brick and mortar store in the clearance vault that has marquise as side diamonds too. All of this actual cost was $2100.00 Not bad for an engagement ring at all. Here is the picture

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If you're having a tough time finding samples to try on at your local jewelry stores, you should have your SO try on CZ versions to get a good idea of proportions, etc. Marquise's are SO PRETTY and I found a bunch of CZ versions out there when I was looking for samples for my oval re-design.
 
There are guides here to help you interpret an Aset image. In brief, you want to see more red (green or blue) - and less white/clear areas.

You can put up the Asets on PS and we can help you interpret them too.
 
What you would do is go to JA and start a chat. There is usually a button on whatever screen you are on.

Tell them you want those three stones reviews AND get ASETS. if you don't ask for ASETS they sometimes won't even do them...who knows why. It'll take them a few days, they'll come back and say "this one i like best, this one next then this one."

They are actually quite honest and don't just recommend the most expensive one, so thats good.

I'd do it soon so they don't get snatched up
 
Ok so I managed to miss getting one of the diamonds reserved :roll: Do any of these look like good candidates and/or better than previous choices? Gemologist is waiting for one more or said I can switch out the others as well. Thanks!

http://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/marquise-cut/0.90-carat-i-color-vs2-clarity-sku-288714
http://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/marquise-cut/0.81-carat-e-color-vs2-clarity-sku-285867
http://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/marquise-cut/0.91-carat-h-color-vs2-clarity-sku-233754
http://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/marquise-cut/1.04-carat-i-color-vs2-clarity-sku-256300
http://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/marquise-cut/0.85-carat-h-color-vs1-clarity-sku-202075
http://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/marquise-cut/1.02-carat-i-color-vs1-clarity-sku-170551

Last one might be a little on the high side for me, but I could maybe go with just the solitaire setting instead of the baguette. Also if you feel up to it and want to tell me your reasoning for why you do or don't like any of them I'd love to know your thoughts! They all look pretty nice to me, but I'm sure I'm missing something.

I appreciate everyone's help so much! Getting close!
 
Niel|1392950573|3619805 said:
which ones were you able to get??

Also, a lot of those were close to 4k already? are you happy with that? Are you trying to go with the baguette setting of you could?

Also, I wonder if this is eye clean/ has safe inclusions. (notice the LxW, bot the ctw)

http://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/marquise-cut/0.77-carat-d-color-i1-clarity-sku-285292

Wow you are quick. So I mixed one with the baguettes in with some others we looked at to test it out and she wasn't a fan. After re-evaluating she's come to really like the solitaire band with a twist in the metal so that it "doesn't look like it was just a cross section of a pipe". Which is an interesting description and I haven't found something that quite fits that yet.

That one you posted was nice looking especially for the price, but I figure I have a little more wiggle room in my budget with the solitaire (unless I go with platinum), so I could probably get near the 1 ct mark.

I'm kind of doing a search using the specs listed here for a "Good" or above marquise:
http://www.lumeradiamonds.com/diamond-education/marquise-diamond

I don't know if that's right, but since we don't get Cut grades for marquise it seemed like the next best thing.

Here's a search with the good characteristics...I think they're right...
http://www.jamesallen.com//loose-di...53.0&DepthTo=71.1&TableFrom=51.0&TableTo=68.0

I debate between good and very good symmetry as it narrows things down a lot.

The ones I first listed fit only in the "Very Good" category for cut I think.
 
A twist in the metal setting? I'd be interested in seeing a picture.

If it helps, I don't think symmetry is really a factor that affect how a diamond performs, not unless it was hugely off. Someone more knowledgable than me can probably add more to that discussion though.
 
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