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Help with this Asscher - Thoughts on the cutting & Play of-light?

@Dr_Diesel wow!!! It looks amazing!!
I wanna upgrade!! Well, maybe not soon… or maybe a pendant. Or maybe… dunno. Too hard at the moment! Lololol.
Haha about tongue in cheek comment! Had to have a laugh!!
 
That is amazing! Now I'm grumpy, I want it! You have the best tastes in those step cuts and I can't wait to see what you do with it!
 
I can't wait to see what you do with it!

Eeeek! Me too! I found a prototype in a box...it eventually evolved into my AVC pinky ring...but that prototype might work out well for this one. Not my most creative design, but might be worth keeping the band super simple to let this stone speak.

Currently aluminum finished in black sharpie and dog slobber (Bear says "Hi!)
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Was thinking either brushed titanium or polished black zirconium?
 
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Oh, and here are the videos again. They didn't embed last time:

 
That is amazing! Now I'm grumpy, I want it!

I'm happy to help you find one ;)2 Hit me up! I love the hunt!!!

...or hit up Alex Park @parksfinegroupinc2! He cut this one...wouldn't surprise me if there were more high-crown Asschers coming down the pike!!!

I LOVE your Shel Silverstein quote BTW!!! Great advice in life...and in choosing shiny rocks!

 
Currently aluminum finished in black sharpie and dog slobber (Bear says "Hi!)
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tempted :mrgreen2:
 
I think he’s developing an appetite for gems…
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*AHEM* Back on task!

Here's a comparison of ASET images from the Royal Asscher (RA) with a 5-step pavilion & a 57% table vs. this Antique Asscher (AA) with a 3-step pavilion & 39% table. It illuminates a few differences I noticed in person:

(1) In diffuse lighting, the RA had a very deep & crisp hall-of-mirrors effect, gorgeous & consistent patterning, uniform brightness and beautifully coordinated play-of light across the entire face of the stone. Lots of tiny but distinct "laser lines" in concentric rings flowed across the stone across a wide array of tilt angles.

(2) In diffuse lighting, the AA is similar but not quite as crisp or refined. It also has a chunkier pattern.

(3) In bright lighting however, the RA's crown & the area under the table displayed totally different intensities, fire, patterning and play -of-light. Under these conditions, it felt like 2 totally different (and independent) stones fused together. The patterned play-of-light in the crown seemed quite different from and moved independently of the play-of-light under the table. The crown felt a bit "stiff" or "mechanical" under these conditions.

(4) In bright lighting, the AA shows much more consistent brightness, fire and play-of light across the face of the stone. The movement is very fluid, organic and coordinated across a wide range of tilt angles. It is very much a singular, coordinated entity.

(5) In certain conditions, the RA’s crown would become VERY bright and fiery, making the area under the table appear dim in comparison. Sort of a thin, ultra-bright & flashy "ring" around a more subdued square. This is never an issue with the AA

*Most of these differences, IMO, are likely due to the very small table. If we considered the table to be a 2-dimensional square, then the crown would represent 85% of the AA's surface area vs 67.5% of the RA's surface area. In reality however, the differences are more extreme since the crown actually exists in 3 dimensions and is higher in the AA.

Without further ado:

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*AHEM* Back on task!

Here's a comparison of ASET images from the Royal Asscher (RA) with a 5-step pavilion & a 57% table vs. this Antique Asscher (AA) with a 3-step pavilion & 39% table. It illuminates a few differences I noticed in person:

(1) In diffuse lighting, the RA had a very crisp hall-of-mirrors effect, gorgeous & consistent patterning, uniform brightness and beautifully coordinated play-of light across the entire face of the stone. Lots of tiny but distinct "laser lines" in concentric rings flowed across the stone across a wide array of tilt angles.

(2) In diffuse lighting, the AA is similar but not quite as crisp or refined. It also has a chunkier pattern.

(3) In bright lighting however, the RA's crown & the area under the table displayed totally different intensities, fire, patterning and play -of-light. Under these conditions, it felt like 2 totally different (and independent) stones fused together. The patterned play-of-light in the crown seemed quite different from and moved independently of the play-of-light under the table. The crown felt a bit "stiff" or "mechanical" under these conditions.

(4) In bright lighting, the AA shows much more consistent brightness, fire and play-of light across the face of the stone. The movement is very fluid, organic and coordinated across a wide range of tilt angles. It is very much a singular, coordinated entity.

*Most of these differences, IMO, are likely due to the very small table. If we considered the table to be a 2-dimensional square, then the crown would represent 85% of the AA's surface area vs 67.5% of the RA's surface area. In reality however, the differences are more extreme since the crown actually exists in 3 dimensions and is higher in the AA.

Without further ado:

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Amazing comparison! Thank you for sharing! I know it’s hard… but if you HAD to pick, and you HAD to choose only one (I can’t believe I’m saying this - asscher blasphemy!) which one would you keep and why?
 
Amazing comparison! Thank you for sharing! I know it’s hard… but if you HAD to pick, and you HAD to choose only one (I can’t believe I’m saying this - asscher blasphemy!) which one would you keep and why?

Already made my choice. I sold the RA and I'm keeping the Antique Asscher.

IF the RA always looked (and more importantly moved) the way it does in diffuse lighting, then I would have kept it. No question. The "independent" and sometime "mechanical" movement of the crown stated to bug me after awhile, even thought it only happened under limited conditions.

I have the utmost respect for the Asscher family. Not only do they have exquisite diamonds, the family members I've interacted with have always demonstrated integrity, respect, kindness, warmth and generosity to me. I support them wholeheartedly, not only for their legacy but for who they are today. I could write pages about their conduct, standards and what they've done for the industry over the past century...but I'll spare you. Suffice to say, I adore, admire and DEEPLY respect them.

For me, this is just a matter of personal preference. I am attracted to fluid, movement that is consistent across multiple lighting environments and remains coordinated in all 3 dimensions, no matter how much you tilt the stone.
 
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That video...it's like looking into a perfect bubble. So clear and iridescent. Are there no inclusions? Holy cow.

It's pretty clean. Graded VS1. At 10x, I found a tiny spec of carbon beneath the girdle in one spot. At 60x, I think I can see hints of subtle growth markings in the crystal but will confirm under the microscope when I have a chance.
 
*AHEM* Back on task!

Here's a comparison of ASET images from the Royal Asscher (RA) with a 5-step pavilion & a 57% table vs. this Antique Asscher (AA) with a 3-step pavilion & 39% table. It illuminates a few differences I noticed in person:

(1) In diffuse lighting, the RA had a very crisp hall-of-mirrors effect, gorgeous & consistent patterning, uniform brightness and beautifully coordinated play-of light across the entire face of the stone. Lots of tiny but distinct "laser lines" in concentric rings flowed across the stone across a wide array of tilt angles.

(2) In diffuse lighting, the AA is similar but not quite as crisp or refined. It also has a chunkier pattern.

(3) In bright lighting however, the RA's crown & the area under the table displayed totally different intensities, fire, patterning and play -of-light. Under these conditions, it felt like 2 totally different (and independent) stones fused together. The patterned play-of-light in the crown seemed quite different from and moved independently of the play-of-light under the table. The crown felt a bit "stiff" or "mechanical" under these conditions.

(4) In bright lighting, the AA shows much more consistent brightness, fire and play-of light across the face of the stone. The movement is very fluid, organic and coordinated across a wide range of tilt angles. It is very much a singular, coordinated entity.

(5) In certain conditions, the RA’s crown would become VERY bright and fiery, making the area under the table appear dim in comparison. This is never an issue with the AA

*Most of these differences, IMO, are likely due to the very small table. If we considered the table to be a 2-dimensional square, then the crown would represent 85% of the AA's surface area vs 67.5% of the RA's surface area. In reality however, the differences are more extreme since the crown actually exists in 3 dimensions and is higher in the AA.

Without further ado:

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I'm reading through this and I have had the same types of thoughts when comparing different asschers.
Each part from the outside shape to the very center have to compliment each other and work together to form a whole.
If one area is out of sync with the rest in some lighting it is noticeable. If someone twists my arm and made me describe "IT" that every part of the stone works together and compliments each other would be the closest I could get. It is not entirely all of "IT" however.

The enhanced 3d effect of high crowns and small tables is something Yoram and I talk about a lot.
Some diamonds are 3d art that paints a picture using light to delight the eyes, others are just shiny rocks.
 
I'm reading through this and I have had the same types of thoughts when comparing different asschers.
Each part from the outside shape to the very center have to compliment each other and work together to form a whole.
If one area is out of sync with the rest in some lighting it is noticeable. If someone twists my arm and made me describe "IT" that every part of the stone works together and compliments each other would be the closest I could get. It is not entirely all of "IT" however.

The enhanced 3d effect of high crowns and small tables is something Yoram and I talk about a lot.
Some diamonds are 3d art that paints a picture using light to delight the eyes, others are just shiny rocks.

yes, Yes, YES, YAASSSSSSS!!!! Well-spoken @Karl_K !!!

Case & Point:

 
Well this is my all-time favorite asscher. When I saw Alex was replicating lab versions I nearly died of joy!

However the timing didn’t work and I haven’t the budget for such a stone at the moment

So I will admire and thank you for graciously sharing these videos

What. A. Stunner!
 
Already made my choice. I sold the RA and I'm keeping the Antique Asscher.

IF the RA always looked (and more importantly moved) the way it does in diffuse lighting, then I would have kept it. No question. The "independent" and sometime "mechanical" movement of the crown stated to bug me after awhile, even thought it only happened under limited conditions.

I have the utmost respect for the Asscher family. Not only do they have exquisite diamonds, the family members I've interacted with have always demonstrated integrity, respect, kindness, warmth and generosity to me. I support them wholeheartedly, not only for their legacy but for who they are today. I could write pages about their conduct, standards and what they've done for the industry over the past century...but I'll spare you. Suffice to say, I adore, admire and DEEPLY respect them.

For me, this is just a matter of personal preference. I am attracted to fluid, movement that is consistent across multiple lighting environments and remains coordinated in all 3 dimensions, no matter how much you tilt the stone.

Oh! I must have missed that you sold the RA. Yes this bad boy is definitely a keeper, and it’s stunning! Thanks for making such a good comparison, that’s really helpful :)
 
Well this is my all-time favorite asscher. When I saw Alex was replicating lab versions I nearly died of joy!

However the timing didn’t work and I haven’t the budget for such a stone at the moment

So I will admire and thank you for graciously sharing these videos

What. A. Stunner!

I believe Alex has two more coming down the pike this month. Larger sizes though.

I gave him a heads up that people seem to really like this one and it *might* be worth cutting a few more in sizes is appropriate for mere mortals (1.5-2.5ct range)!
 
Oh! I must have missed that you sold the RA. Yes this bad boy is definitely a keeper, and it’s stunning! Thanks for making such a good comparison, that’s really helpful :)

My pleasure! And thank you for saying so!

I’ve always been a fan of transparency and open-source information.

I am more than happy to share whatever I learn!

Very glad to hear it’s appreciated!
 
*AHEM* Back on task!

Here's a comparison of ASET images from the Royal Asscher (RA) with a 5-step pavilion & a 57% table vs. this Antique Asscher (AA) with a 3-step pavilion & 39% table. It illuminates a few differences I noticed in person:

(1) In diffuse lighting, the RA had a very deep & crisp hall-of-mirrors effect, gorgeous & consistent patterning, uniform brightness and beautifully coordinated play-of light across the entire face of the stone. Lots of tiny but distinct "laser lines" in concentric rings flowed across the stone across a wide array of tilt angles.

(2) In diffuse lighting, the AA is similar but not quite as crisp or refined. It also has a chunkier pattern.

(3) In bright lighting however, the RA's crown & the area under the table displayed totally different intensities, fire, patterning and play -of-light. Under these conditions, it felt like 2 totally different (and independent) stones fused together. The patterned play-of-light in the crown seemed quite different from and moved independently of the play-of-light under the table. The crown felt a bit "stiff" or "mechanical" under these conditions.

(4) In bright lighting, the AA shows much more consistent brightness, fire and play-of light across the face of the stone. The movement is very fluid, organic and coordinated across a wide range of tilt angles. It is very much a singular, coordinated entity.

(5) In certain conditions, the RA’s crown would become VERY bright and fiery, making the area under the table appear dim in comparison. Sort of a thin, ultra-bright & flashy "ring" around a more subdued square. This is never an issue with the AA

*Most of these differences, IMO, are likely due to the very small table. If we considered the table to be a 2-dimensional square, then the crown would represent 85% of the AA's surface area vs 67.5% of the RA's surface area. In reality however, the differences are more extreme since the crown actually exists in 3 dimensions and is higher in the AA.

Without further ado:

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What a great analysis, and very interesting comments about certain asschers having noticeably different performance through the crown facets than under the table in some lighting, this is definitely something I have noticed myself during my lengthy "asscher journey".

I love your stone - it defintely has the "wow" factor :kiss2:

I'm curious to know - do you plan to wear this one in a ring as well as your new Octavia?
 
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