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MissStepcut|1314833091|3006835 said:It occurs to me that I should have asked when you graduated, since tuition has sharply risen at pretty much every institution relative to inflation. I was probably among the last grads of my undergrad for whom it was feasible to pay our own way through school (without taking time off to save up).
Autumnovember|1314826880|3006712 said:ughhhhhhh.....75k as of right now.
It definitely sucks but part of me is glad that I'll be able to say that I paid for college without anyone's help.
thing2of2|1314828815|3006751 said:Sparkly Blonde|1314828340|3006743 said:MissStepcut|1314826475|3006703 said:Alright, I will be brave and go first. My JD is going to cost me... $160k. Ouch. Luckily I paid for undergrad out-of-pocket by working during school, sharing a tiny apartment with other girls, a little bit of help from parents (maybe 20% of the total cost) and graduating early.
If I can't pay back my student loans, there is a Federal program that will bail me out. So it may turn out that you will be paying for my fancy private school law degree.
ETA: Thanks Yenny for going first!
This bothers me _ a lot. The idea that my tax dollars go to somebody who willingly took on a huge amount of debt and uses the government as their plan B is not okay. I can only hope that high taxes will bite you in the rear after you obtain your fancy degree.
Yeah well, it bothers me a lot that my tax dollars go to pay jackholes like Michele Bachmann who spew nothing but idiocy and hate, but that's life as an American! Also, ALL Americans use government as their Plan B for retirement, last I checked.
Zoe|1314836623|3006893 said:thing2of2|1314828815|3006751 said:Sparkly Blonde|1314828340|3006743 said:MissStepcut|1314826475|3006703 said:Alright, I will be brave and go first. My JD is going to cost me... $160k. Ouch. Luckily I paid for undergrad out-of-pocket by working during school, sharing a tiny apartment with other girls, a little bit of help from parents (maybe 20% of the total cost) and graduating early.
If I can't pay back my student loans, there is a Federal program that will bail me out. So it may turn out that you will be paying for my fancy private school law degree.
ETA: Thanks Yenny for going first!
This bothers me _ a lot. The idea that my tax dollars go to somebody who willingly took on a huge amount of debt and uses the government as their plan B is not okay. I can only hope that high taxes will bite you in the rear after you obtain your fancy degree.
Yeah well, it bothers me a lot that my tax dollars go to pay jackholes like Michele Bachmann who spew nothing but idiocy and hate, but that's life as an American! Also, ALL Americans use government as their Plan B for retirement, last I checked.
I think I love you, Thing2.
Dancing Fire|1314835287|3006876 said:[quote="thing2of2|
Yeah well, it bothers me a lot that my tax dollars go to pay jackholes like Michele Bachmann who spew nothing but idiocy and hate, but that's life as an American! Also, ALL Americans use government as their Plan B for retirement, last I checked.
vc10um|1314837871|3006919 said:Nearly $100K with 4 years of undergrad and 1 year of graduate school. Over 1/3 of that is from my freshman year alone, because I was an out of state student that year and so I paid through the nose at Michigan.
I received my Bachelor's in 2006 and my Master's in 2007.
Can I join your family? That's very generous of you, how great it must feel to be able to help out your family like that! I hope we can one day do the same if our family needs our help.wannaBMrsH|1314843449|3007001 said:I attended a private university in Texas and while I was on full scholarship for the first two years, my GPA dropped below the requisite right before my junior year. I ended up graduating with about $56k in loans. Luckily, I paid most of it off and I had less than 10k in debt last year when I quit my job. We went ahead and paid the balance so I wouldn't worry about it while I was out of work, but it was a huge lesson for me and DH. I'd been paying what is the equivalent to a mortgage for almost 10 years!
My younger brother graduated with about 6k in school debt and we recently went ahead and paid off the balance (2k) as a birthday present to him. But, the next brother, we told him it was better to have no debt and he started two weeks ago with zero debt. We (Parents, brother 1 and me) are going to pay as much as we can out of pocket just so he won't have that over his head. My 17-year-old sister will be in college next year and we are doing the same thing for her. It is unbelievable that in today's economy ANYONE would choose to take on as much debt as I did ten years ago.
charbie|1314843765|3007009 said:Can I join your family? That's very generous of you, how great it must feel to be able to help out your family like that! I hope we can one day do the same if our family needs our help.wannaBMrsH|1314843449|3007001 said:I attended a private university in Texas and while I was on full scholarship for the first two years, my GPA dropped below the requisite right before my junior year. I ended up graduating with about $56k in loans. Luckily, I paid most of it off and I had less than 10k in debt last year when I quit my job. We went ahead and paid the balance so I wouldn't worry about it while I was out of work, but it was a huge lesson for me and DH. I'd been paying what is the equivalent to a mortgage for almost 10 years!
My younger brother graduated with about 6k in school debt and we recently went ahead and paid off the balance (2k) as a birthday present to him. But, the next brother, we told him it was better to have no debt and he started two weeks ago with zero debt. We (Parents, brother 1 and me) are going to pay as much as we can out of pocket just so he won't have that over his head. My 17-year-old sister will be in college next year and we are doing the same thing for her. It is unbelievable that in today's economy ANYONE would choose to take on as much debt as I did ten years ago.
wannaBMrsH|1314844428|3007023 said:charbie|1314843765|3007009 said:Can I join your family? That's very generous of you, how great it must feel to be able to help out your family like that! I hope we can one day do the same if our family needs our help.wannaBMrsH|1314843449|3007001 said:I attended a private university in Texas and while I was on full scholarship for the first two years, my GPA dropped below the requisite right before my junior year. I ended up graduating with about $56k in loans. Luckily, I paid most of it off and I had less than 10k in debt last year when I quit my job. We went ahead and paid the balance so I wouldn't worry about it while I was out of work, but it was a huge lesson for me and DH. I'd been paying what is the equivalent to a mortgage for almost 10 years!
My younger brother graduated with about 6k in school debt and we recently went ahead and paid off the balance (2k) as a birthday present to him. But, the next brother, we told him it was better to have no debt and he started two weeks ago with zero debt. We (Parents, brother 1 and me) are going to pay as much as we can out of pocket just so he won't have that over his head. My 17-year-old sister will be in college next year and we are doing the same thing for her. It is unbelievable that in today's economy ANYONE would choose to take on as much debt as I did ten years ago.
It's not sooo fantastic a deal, brother 1 went to a state school and brother 2 is starting at community college so we aren't laying out thousands and thousands. I am really proud of brother 2 because he is going back after working 8 years and realizing that a BA is pretty much the equivalent of a HS diploma 20-30 years ago. And he has kids so none of us want him to stress about taking food from his table to get his degree. My youngest sister is so freakin fantastic that I am honored that she would ask me for anything!
Sparkly Blonde|1314828340|3006743 said:MissStepcut|1314826475|3006703 said:Alright, I will be brave and go first. My JD is going to cost me... $160k. Ouch. Luckily I paid for undergrad out-of-pocket by working during school, sharing a tiny apartment with other girls, a little bit of help from parents (maybe 20% of the total cost) and graduating early.
If I can't pay back my student loans, there is a Federal program that will bail me out. So it may turn out that you will be paying for my fancy private school law degree.
ETA: Thanks Yenny for going first!
This bothers me _ a lot. The idea that my tax dollars go to somebody who willingly took on a huge amount of debt and uses the government as their plan B is not okay. I can only hope that high taxes will bite you in the rear after you obtain your fancy degree.
Yes, absolutely.wildcat03|1314846096|3007042 said:Sparkly Blonde|1314828340|3006743 said:MissStepcut|1314826475|3006703 said:Alright, I will be brave and go first. My JD is going to cost me... $160k. Ouch. Luckily I paid for undergrad out-of-pocket by working during school, sharing a tiny apartment with other girls, a little bit of help from parents (maybe 20% of the total cost) and graduating early.
If I can't pay back my student loans, there is a Federal program that will bail me out. So it may turn out that you will be paying for my fancy private school law degree.
ETA: Thanks Yenny for going first!
This bothers me _ a lot. The idea that my tax dollars go to somebody who willingly took on a huge amount of debt and uses the government as their plan B is not okay. I can only hope that high taxes will bite you in the rear after you obtain your fancy degree.
I have mountains, literally mountains of student debt. Other than that, just a small car loan. No credit card debt or unsecured loans.
I just had to take a minute to address this comment. I, too, am hoping to earn loan repayment through 10 years of public service. As a doctor, my first 4 years are coming through residency - which is essentially mandatory, during which I'm paid somewhere around 50k/year (bear in mind that I am 30 years old with a doctoral degree).
What is residency? I spend my days (and nights, and weekends) taking care of patients in a large teaching hospital. My pay and benefits are largely funded by Medicare in return for my service to Medicare and Medicaid patients. I work somewhere around 80 hours a week. If I am lucky, I get a full weekend (Saturday AND Sunday) off a month. If I am really lucky, I will get Christmas off this year and it will be the first major holiday I've spent with my family in 3 years. I spend my time outside of work on research projects and at least 5 hours a week on necessary administrative tasks related to residency. Oh, and I also study. Daily. In the last month alone, I have been punched by one patient and had my rear end fondled by another and one woman hit me with her cane when I told her that her adult daughter had died. Amongst my greatest talents these days, I would certainly list that I am capable of caring for patients for 30 hours straight - without sleep and often with only two meals in there. How do I know this? I've done it. Every 4th day. For months on end. I LOVE what I do. It is an honor and a privilege to take care of people when they need you the most. The path to this profession is long, hard, and EXPENSIVE. I went from age 24 to age 28 without anything more than a couple token paychecks a year (weekends, nannying, etc.). I won't see a real "doctor" paycheck until I'm 32 at the very earliest. So yes, I willingly took on a huge amount of debt. And yet here I am, putting it to use for the common good. Wouldn't you like to have a doctor available to you when you need one?
Haven|1314847371|3007065 said:Yes, absolutely.
But one thing that does bother me is that doctors work for 30 hours straight. I would not want to be treated by a doctor who has been working for even 15 hours straight. That is very unsettling. I've seen posters complain about these type of work shifts before, and it always boggles my mind. I imagine everyone who does this sort of extended work must *think* they are on their A-game the entire time, but I can't believe that. My husband's mother died in a hospital due to an error made by her doctor, and whenever I read posts like this I wonder if he was just working too darn long at the time. (Sorry for the threadjack. I wish you and others who treat people didn't have to work so long and hard. Thank you for what you do.)