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charbie|1314838980|3006935 said:I was determined not to let finances mean I couldn't have the college experience I wanted to have, and im proud I didn't compromise.
charbie|1314839322|3006940 said:vc10um|1314837871|3006919 said:Nearly $100K with 4 years of undergrad and 1 year of graduate school. Over 1/3 of that is from my freshman year alone, because I was an out of state student that year and so I paid through the nose at Michigan.
I received my Bachelor's in 2006 and my Master's in 2007.
Now, vc, you seem like an intelligent woman...but why in the WORLD would you pay EXTRA to be out of state at M*CH*G@N? Who pays extra to go to THAT school.
you earned that one on the thread about where you graduated from...go bucks!
This makes sense, that change in shifts will have to come from public outrage.wildcat03|1314847868|3007079 said:Haven|1314847371|3007065 said:Yes, absolutely.
But one thing that does bother me is that doctors work for 30 hours straight. I would not want to be treated by a doctor who has been working for even 15 hours straight. That is very unsettling. I've seen posters complain about these type of work shifts before, and it always boggles my mind. I imagine everyone who does this sort of extended work must *think* they are on their A-game the entire time, but I can't believe that. My husband's mother died in a hospital due to an error made by her doctor, and whenever I read posts like this I wonder if he was just working too darn long at the time. (Sorry for the threadjack. I wish you and others who treat people didn't have to work so long and hard. Thank you for what you do.)
I don't think there's a remote possibility that anyone is on their A-game after about 12 hours. Maybe 14-15 if it's been a light day otherwise. After that point, there's a sharp drop off in functioning. I always tell anyone who objects that change in our shift length will never come from within the profession - it's going to have to be public outrage (such as the Libby Zion case) that brings about change. When we talk about wanting it, we're accused of being pansies. There have been some slow steps made over the years. As of July 1, our newest doctors can only work 14 hours at a stretch, and anyone with one year of training can work up to 28 hours at a time. I'm truly sorry for your family's loss.
NewEnglandLady|1314886943|3007346 said:My loans were around $60K (undergrad). I graduated in 2002. I went to a private school, so the debt could have been worse, but I applied for every scholarship possible and had about half my education paid through scholarships.
I started paying off my loans before I even graduated--I worked full time from my sophomore year on--and luckily they are all paid off (beans and rice, rice and beans). Even though I loved my college and valued my internships, I will always regret going that deep into debt for my education.