How much would you buy this natural ruby 2.9ct for?

[Avondale]

May i ask where does GIA write out information like this? Can’t seem to find it on their website maybe I’m missing something

 

[kakadttt]

I see orangy red. And i hear you that it’s not as bad as “orange red” but i don’t see Orange-red on this chart?

 

[ItsMainelyYou]

For what you're paying for the size, a ruby is going to be a small stone.
There's no point in buying an expensive, ugly, stone. That's just wasting money. If you want size, it won't be a ruby. Here are few that aren't perfect but at least have ruby color.

BURMA RUBY GRS - Etsy

This Gemstones item by Diastone has 6 favorites from Etsy shoppers. Ships from Hong Kong. Listed on Aug 16, 2024

www.etsy.com

Untreated Pigeon Blood Red 18k White Gold Natural Ruby Diamond Engagement Ring/mozambique Certified Ruby Statement Rings/signet Solitaire - Etsy

This Wedding & Engagement item by GraceGemsUS has 461 favorites from Etsy shoppers. Ships from Littleton, CO. Listed on Aug 17, 2024

www.etsy.com

18k Rose Gold Ruby Engagement Ring/diamond Ruby Halo Ring/natural Untreated Real Ruby Ring for Women/art Deco Ruby Ring/proposal Ruby Ring - Etsy

This Wedding Bands item by GraceGemsUS has 138 favorites from Etsy shoppers. Ships from Littleton, CO. Listed on Apr 7, 2024

www.etsy.com

You could try contacting this vendor to see if they would put a slightly larger ruby in one of their settings.

 

[Avondale]

I see orangy red. And i hear you that it’s not as bad as “orange red” but i don’t see Orange-red on this chart?

Take it up with the GIA.

 

[kakadttt]

For reference, below is an example of a pretty ruby at imo a typical fair price, a 1.2 carat stone for about $5,000. Do you see the difference between that and the ones you've posted so far? I would not be overly impressed with "certified." It does not mean a "ruby" is not a very low quality piece of brown-red gravel!

Ruby

Fine and unique gemstones personally sourced from around the world

www.finewatergems.com

Wow, so much negativity- way to go! Did you read what i wrote ? Such as my budget? My priority? Or did that not matter at all cause you just need a place to place your personal aesthetic opinions?

 

[lovedogs]

For reference, below is an example of a pretty ruby at imo a typical fair price, a 1.2 carat stone for about $5,000. Do you see the difference between that and the ones you've posted so far? I would not be overly impressed with "certified" or just being any "ruby." First rule imo: Get something PRETTY.

Ruby

Fine and unique gemstones personally sourced from around the world

www.finewatergems.com

Haha yup! I posted this example on page 1 I think. Gorgeous stone and worth the $ if someone wants a ruby.

 

[kakadttt]

I knew I shouldn't have bothered, since you don't listen and don't appreciate all the time and effort people who obviously know more than you have already wasted on you. Derp.

I thank everyone else who is here to talk like adults and provided help. I just don’t appreciate your negative comments. Don’t take it personal

 

[Avondale]

I think my last pick is a beautiful ruby.

Go for it, then. You said you had a 2-day return window, right? And the return policy is "no questions asked", if you don't like it, they'll take it back?

A couple of days should be plenty to see it in different light, learn how it performs and make a decision.

Worst case scenario, it doesn't hold up to expectations, you send it back and continue your search.

 

[kakadttt]

Go for it, then. You said you had a 2-day return window, right? And the return policy is "no questions asked", if you don't like it, they'll take it back?

A couple of days should be plenty to see it in different light, learn how it performs and make a decision.

Worst case scenario, it doesn't hold up to expectations, you send it back and continue your search.

Thank you for the help, and the sharingI have a very difficult situation with traveling schedule so I’m likely doing to miss the return window by the time i get to see it so that’s why i wanted to post and ask before doing so. But again given my small budget- and the fact that i want it to be more than 1ct, it’s probably not something I’d regret getting. I genuinely like the stone and have a personal connection to it

 

[kakadttt]

For what you're paying for the size, a ruby is going to be a small stone.
There's no point in buying an expensive, ugly, stone. That's just wasting money. If you want size, it won't be a ruby. Here are few that aren't perfect but at least have ruby color.

BURMA RUBY GRS - Etsy

This Gemstones item by Diastone has 6 favorites from Etsy shoppers. Ships from Hong Kong. Listed on Aug 16, 2024

www.etsy.com

Untreated Pigeon Blood Red 18k White Gold Natural Ruby Diamond Engagement Ring/mozambique Certified Ruby Statement Rings/signet Solitaire - Etsy

This Wedding & Engagement item by GraceGemsUS has 461 favorites from Etsy shoppers. Ships from Littleton, CO. Listed on Aug 17, 2024

www.etsy.com

18k Rose Gold Ruby Engagement Ring/diamond Ruby Halo Ring/natural Untreated Real Ruby Ring for Women/art Deco Ruby Ring/proposal Ruby Ring - Etsy

This Wedding Bands item by GraceGemsUS has 138 favorites from Etsy shoppers. Ships from Littleton, CO. Listed on Apr 7, 2024

www.etsy.com

You could try contacting this vendor to see if they would put a slightly larger ruby in one of their settings.

Beautiful options! Getting this for Grandma so want it larger in size for her to be able to see it easier

 

[Avondale]

Oh, and just to try and bring a little clarity here...

No one is attacking you personally. No one.

We know that it takes experience to learn and recognise quality in gemstones. At first most gems look pretty. You learn the difference once you're able to put two gems next to each other and see that difference with your own eyes. You may have started with a stone that you initially found beautiful, but once you have something better to compare it to - now you're able to fully realise all of its flaws.

Once you have experience, you also know where you are willing to compromise. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder and different things matter to different people. Some aren't bothered by clarity. Some prefer a stone with an orange hue to a pinkish one. All things that allow you to lower the price while staying focused on what makes a stone beautiful in your eyes.

Since you don't have that experience, people are erring on the side of caution and trying to recommend you only the best with the least amount of compromise. Because the best is obviously going to be beautiful, and it will remain beautiful, no matter what you compare it to in the future.

 

[seaurchin]

All deleted. Help retracted since not appreciated.

 

[kakadttt]

All deleted. Help retracted since not appreciated.

Oh don’t take it so personal when your judgement is unwanted

 

[kakadttt]

Oh, and just to try and bring a little clarity here...

No one is attacking you personally. No one.

We know that it takes experience to learn and recognise quality in gemstones. At first most gems look pretty. You learn the difference once you're able to put two gems next to each other and see that difference with your own eyes. You may have started with a stone that you initially found beautiful, but once you have something better to compare it to - now you're able to fully realise all of its flaws.

Once you have experience, you also know where you are willing to compromise. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder and different things matter to different people. Some aren't bothered by clarity. Some prefer a stone with an orange hue to a pinkish one. All things that allow you to lower the price while staying focused on what makes a stone beautiful in your eyes.

Since you don't have that experience, people are erring on the side of caution and trying to recommend you only the best with the least amount of compromise. Because the best is obviously going to be beautiful, and it will remain beautiful, no matter what you compare it to in the future.

Well said, and for the record, I’m super appreciative of you and your help and also, I’m absolutely not feeling attacked- don’t worry. I do however have little tolerance for comments that have only bashing talk and nothing constructive. In that case, i feel those comments should not be in this threat.

That said, thank you for helping me to learn! I learned a great deal from you!

 

[Rfisher]

Under 2k total

Ok. That’s even less do-able then,
With what I was attempting with the estate/vintage route.
Thinking since you are buying loose and will have to then find a setting that appropriately fits and someone to mount it.

It was mentioned upthread how much market has changed. It indeed has.
Prices are certainly different than 2018 when I went on my own ‘budget ruby’ search.

None of that helps you - just background info.

 

[minousbijoux]

Well said, and for the record, I’m super appreciative of you and your help and also, I’m absolutely not feeling attacked- don’t worry. I do however have little tolerance for comments that have only bashing talk and nothing constructive. In that case, i feel those comments should not be in this threat.

That said, thank you for helping me to learn! I learned a great deal from you!

Wow, just wow. Except for once, I have refrained from commenting because of your responses and attitude. You are new to this site. You want to use the site and the expertise of members here, but it seems to me that you are not willing to "read the room" and try to conform. I do not see you listening, learning and showing much gratitude to members who offer their counsel, whether you agree with them or not.

With rare exceptions, almost all new members here are willing to learn. They ask questions or request reading material so that they can understand what constitutes a quality stone. Unlike you, they do not repeatedly say "is this worth X?" or "How much is this worth?" If you wanted to, you could read the thread I recommended so that you could learn yourself how to judge stones. Then, with that knowledge, you could research yourself where retail prices sit for comparable stones so you would not have to repeatedly ask rhetorical questions about value. I could excuse this if, for example, you were color blind. But it seems to me you are quick to feel insulted, despite the well intentioned efforts by members such as @seaurchin, so you lash out in a rude way that is inconsistent with the etiquette of this community. Please review your responses to those who have offered help. I'm sure there are other members besides myself who find your conduct so offputting as to prevent our participation in this thread or help in what otherwise might be a fun and educational thread.

Nonetheless, I wish you the best and hope you find a stone with great resale value!

 

[kakadttt]

Ok. That’s even less do-able then,
With what I was attempting with the estate/vintage route.
Thinking since you are buying loose and will have to then find a setting that appropriately fits and someone to mount it.

It was mentioned upthread how much market has changed. It indeed has.
Prices are certainly different than 2018 when I went on my own ‘budget ruby’ search.

None of that helps you - just background info.

Thank you though. I would totally go with your suggested options if it’s for my own enjoyment. I like the ones you shared a lot.

 

[kakadttt]

Wow, just wow. Except for once, I have refrained from commenting because of your responses and attitude. You are new to this site. You want to use the site and the expertise of members here, but it seems to me that you are not willing to "read the room" and try to conform. I do not see you listening, learning and showing much gratitude to members who offer their counsel, whether you agree with them or not.

With rare exceptions, almost all new members here are willing to learn. They ask questions or request reading material so that they can understand what constitutes a quality stone. Unlike you, they do not repeatedly say "is this worth X?" or "How much is this worth?" If you wanted to, you could read the thread I recommended so that you could learn yourself how to judge stones. Then, with that knowledge, you could research yourself where retail prices sit for comparable stones so you would not have to repeatedly ask rhetorical questions about value. I could excuse this if, for example, you were color blind. But it seems to me you are quick to feel insulted, despite the well intentioned efforts by members such as @seaurchin, so you lash out in a rude way that is inconsistent with the etiquette of this community. Please review your responses to those who have offered help. I'm sure there are other members besides myself who find your conduct so offputting as to prevent our participation in this thread or help in what otherwise might be a fun and educational thread.

Nonetheless, I wish you the best and hope you find a stone with great resale value!

So you are here to express an attitude towards me asking questions? Then don’t worry about participating in this thread, why bother with writing out all these judgements and made it sound like i made you. Why so sensitive?

Wait a min, you didn’t see what @seaurchin wrote before they “edited” their really nasty comments away, did you? I guess not.

 

[fredflintstone]

it has a GIA certificate for ruby though...is GIA not trust worthy for ruby? See the photo on GIA's report:

No! Run, run, run away, as fast as you can!

 

[kakadttt]

No! Run, run, run away, as fast as you can!

Because of gia or the color grade listed on gia?

 

[Ella]

Folks, everyone stop or we will close the thread. You can put people you don’t like
on “ignore” I suggest you do that or just simply do not open their threads.

 

[RRfromR]

Under 1ct but mindblowing

Ruby No Heat 0.82 ct

Stone type: Ruby UnheatedWeight: 0.82 ctDimension: 5.77 x 4.53 x 3.45 mmColor: RedShape & Cut: Oval, Yavorskyy cut

yavorskyy.com

Small but BRIGHT

Ruby No Heat 0.66 ct

Stone type: Ruby Unheated Weight: 0.66 ctDimension: 5.71 x 4.25 x 2.93 mmColor: RedShape & Cut: Oval, Yavorskyy cut

yavorskyy.com

@lovedogs the vendor has the wildest IG page, I swear. Does anyone have any experience with him? Tia

 

[lovedogs]

@lovedogs the vendor has the wildest IG page, I swear. Does anyone have any experience with him? Tia

I've spoken to his assistant via email. His work is amazing and i wouldn't have any hesitation to purchase something I wanted/could afford

 

[Avondale]

the vendor has the wildest IG page, I swear. Does anyone have any experience with him? Tia

He's well known and trusted on PS, one of the first vendors I started following. I've read multiple opinions that his prices definitely fall in the high-end category.

However, it is worth noting that the .82ct ruby has been in his inventory since at least the beginning of 2022 when I first noticed it and its price has remained the same ever since even though I saw a steady and significant rise in ruby prices since then and many vendors adjusted the numbers for their existing stock.

 

[qubitasaurus]

@lovedogs the vendor has the wildest IG page, I swear. Does anyone have any experience with him? Tia

Oh this IG is great, he has the funniest videos. And some of the ones of him recutting high valued stones are great. He is a very big Hong Kong dealer, deals primarily in the high value range.

OP I suggest you look through multicolour

Multicolour.com / All Categories / Single / Ruby / Old items appear last

Gallery View

www.multicolour.com

They're a good vendor and you will likely get what you paid for so you don't have to worry so much about whether it is priced right.

I wouldn't buy anything too expensive. You need to understand the differences between heated, flux heated with minor residues/H(a), flux heated with major residues, lead glass filled, reconstituted, and beryllium diffused and unheated to buy a Ruby. You also have to be able to read cut, clarity and colour as small changes make a big difference in price. It is not worthwhile to spend large amounts until you have these bases covered. Just scanning a few posts a page on this thread you've considerably offsided most of the people here who knew enough to be able to stop you making an expensive mistake. So I'd keep it simple and buy something inexpensive to start with. If you like it then you can always add to your collection later.

 

[newtojewels]

@lovedogs the vendor has the wildest IG page, I swear. Does anyone have any experience with him? Tia

I've posted about this elsewhere but I received a ring from him this week -- that I still haven't seen in person! It was a low-value item for him, only $1610 for the completed piece which I bought ready-made and didn't ask to have sized, but it was packaged extremely carefully and my partner said it looked color-accurate in daylight to the photos on the website, for whatever that's worth! It arrived under two weeks after I ordered it shipped from Thailand to the US with one delay due to Thai New Year that they emailed me about and another delay once FedEx had it.

I honestly thought there was a mistake on the pricing so I was ready to get an email saying that, but nope! Just the delay. My ring with 1.61 carats of spinels and 0.15 of diamonds (hard to believe the diamond weight is so low, they must be really tiny!):

The same design with 1.67 ctw of grey spinels is $4700 which is why I decided to jump on the blue one, though I was expecting to be able to see it in person before the return period was up! So let's hope I like it when I finally see it next week.

 

[RRfromR]

@newtojewels that is a great price for such a pretty ring. I can't wait for you to post pictures when you get it.