I found the diamond I like... but it is not certified. HELP me ASAP?

[valeria101]

Date: 3/27/2005 9:51:47 AM
Author: mymulan


Would you (just personal here) pay 5k more for a smaller, less yellow stone?

NO
Unless you want to wear this pegged table down on white paper.




Today, the jeweler with the 2.66 stone will have to send the stone back unless I ask him to send it to EGL. I feel like I will be saying goodbye to the hamburger that looks like filet mignon.

I am a vegetarian... so the analogy is rather abstract fo me
Given that prices are made based on certified grades, I would definitely send this one to EGL (even for $400) if I knew I can't tell the grades... Since you say a bit of difference over white paper without much eye strain, I would say chances are the difference is of two color grades rather than one.

The offer to submit their stones to grading sounds curteous... hopefully this is no bluf (it could be). IMO, if you make the purchase conditional on EGL agreeing with the jeweler's estimate within two grades (added up: either one color and one clarity, or .... you know what I mean) there isn't much risk left on this purchase.

It would have been nicer of them to certify the stone at their expense and give you free choice of deciding after the grades come back. Any chance you could obtain this kind of agreement ? It is probably just a matter of persuading the seller that you are commited to the purchase (i.e. there aren't ten more diamonds pending somewhere so that you might as well buy from somewhere else ehile his stone is on vacation at EGL).

GIA sounds better, but takes longer - I think. Actually, how long does it take to obtain a "Dossier" report from GIA ? That should move faster. You might want to ask...

Just IMO. Please add salt.

Lots of it.

 

[mymulan]

My heart is not set on the 2.66... just that mentally, it is painful to let go... but it seems like I have to since everyone says to be careful....plus the time contraint is stressing me out, which I shouldn''t have to.

I did ask yesterday if they are willing to pay for the cert.....they didn''t want to, that''s why I was still hesitating.

Ana, I''m sorry if my analogy offended you a bit... I was using DF''s analogy in response.. cuz I thought it was cute... heh

 

[Dancing Fire]

Date: 3/27/2005 9:51:47 AM
Author: mymulan



BTW, the GIA cert 2.08 H VVS2 is not H&A and is from a different jeweler. The uncert 2.66 (possibly I/SI1) is H&A cuz I can cleary see.

if the 2.66 ct is really a I si1 it may not be such a bargain after all.


Also, if I were to buy from the jeweler that sells the 2.08 H VVS2, he will let me trade up 100% of the cost of the diamond . So if he got in a diamond over 2.5 carat of the same color, quality and cut, he will allow me to just pay the difference for the diamond and exchange. He is a trustworthy jeweler and I''ve done these kind of trade ins with him a few times. I told him about the uncert 2.66 and he says it is a dangerous buy and especially when I told him which jeweler I saw it from, he just ask me to be careful and make sure I get proper docs.

most e-vendors here offer the same trade up policy,100% credit towards the next stone you buy.


Today, the jeweler with the 2.66 stone will have to send the stone back unless I ask him to send it to EGL. Basically, today is my deadline on making my decision on the 2.66 stone. I feel like I will be saying goodbye to the hamburger that looks like filet mignon.

don''t worry ,there''re other diamonds to buy.i don''t think you let a bargain slip away,something isn''t right about this stone.ask yourself this question ...why wouldn''t the owner invest a few hundred dollars on a cert to get thousands more in return it just don''t make any sense.i can understand on a smaller less expensive stone, it may not worth it but, on a nice 2.66 ct.?.....NO WAY!!!

 

[mymulan]

Thanks all. After today, I''ve decided NOT to purchase that 2.66 stone. No regrets. Thanks to all who responded and helped me.

Special thanks to DF and Ana. I''ll be looking at more diamonds.... thanks!!

 

[blueroses]

I think you made the right call, mymulan

The right stone is still out there for you! Good luck!!