I got the job. My mother kills me...lol.

[Gypsy]

So, the company I interviewed with last week called today and gave me a job offer. The offer was a about 20% over what I make now. Which is .... interesting. I''m still not sure I''m going to accept the offer. Need to think about it. But anyway. I tell her and she''s like... is that all? I thought they''d offer you... and she names a number that''s 30% over what I make. I pointed out that it''s still a significant increase over what I am making... and she''s like: "well I guess its acceptable". *snort* It''s more than I asked for as well. It''s about 4K over what I asked for.

She''s not right is she? I don''t think she is.

But should I negotiate for more? I don''t know.

I have a decision to make. Hmm. What to do. Gonna make another pro and con list tonight.

Higher salary, higher bonus. Company is doing much better than ours is financially. And is also more diversified in terms of what their consumer base is... so will probably weather this recession better than current company. Boss seems nice. Co-worker is a bitch. Hmmm.

 

[October2008bride]

Date: 5/27/2008 6:43:28 PM
Author:Gypsy
So, the company I interviewed with last week called today and gave me a job offer. The offer was a about 20% over what I make now. Which is .... interesting. I''m still not sure I''m going to accept the offer. Need to think about it. But anyway. I tell her and she''s like... is that all? I thought they''d offer you... and she names a number that''s 30% over what I make. I pointed out that it''s still a significant increase over what I am making... and she''s like: ''well I guess its acceptable''. *snort* It''s more than I asked for as well. It''s about 4K over what I asked for.

She''s not right is she? I don''t think she is.

But should I negotiate for more? I don''t know.

I have a decision to make. Hmm. What to do. Gonna make another pro and con list tonight.

Higher salary, higher bonus. Company is doing much better than ours is financially. And is also more diversified in terms of what their consumer base is... so will probably weather this recession better than current company. Boss seems nice. Co-worker is a bitch. Hmmm.

First off - CONGRATULATIONS!!! Take a minute and celebrate your success!

Second - Mom''s can be like that. Don''t worry about her. 4K over what you asked for is PLENTY good.

Third - money etc aside - would you be happy working with those people? You don''t want to make a lateral move right? After dealing with the BS in your current job, just make sure that the next move gets you what you want (a happy, safe, comfortable place to work).

Anyways - congrats on being successful in the interview process - that is a good start whether you take the job or keep looking!

 

[neatfreak]

Congrats Gypsy!!! One major question for you: Are you leaving your current job just because of demon boss or because of $ too? If it''s just because of demon boss then there is no guarantee this new job will be better due to crazy coworker. If it is a combo of things and you know you''ll just overall be happier at the new job even if coworker is a b*tch, then take the new job.

I think it''s a nice offer, but if you''re not totally sold on the job you can always negotiate and take it as a sign: accept if they renegotiate your offer and decline if they don''t. Games are fun. And they get you out of making annoying decisions

 

[FrekeChild]

Congrats!!!!

Gotta go pick up FF, but I''ll let you know what i think when I get back!!!

 

[Miranda]

Hmmm...That''s a toughie. If it''s more than you asked for it will be hard to negotiate up now. Your mom cracks me up. She sounds like a firecracker! I think she just values her baby, that''s all!

 

[Gypsy]

Date: 5/27/2008 6:50:47 PM
Author: October2008bride

First off - CONGRATULATIONS!!! Take a minute and celebrate your success!

Second - Mom's can be like that. Don't worry about her. 4K over what you asked for is PLENTY good.

Third - money etc aside - would you be happy working with those people? You don't want to make a lateral move right? After dealing with the BS in your current job, just make sure that the next move gets you what you want (a happy, safe, comfortable place to work).

Anyways - congrats on being successful in the interview process - that is a good start whether you take the job or keep looking!

Thank you honey. I think I will take a moment to celebrate.

Their background check company called me on Friday and wanted additional information and I was like... why? Why do I need to send in old W2s. Why do they need confirmation of start and end date at that position. What happened??? I was freaking. Not because of THEM, because of ANY company I hope to get a job at! I do NOT have a great long term memory at all, and couldn't remember 100% if the information in my resume is accurate... especially as that information is years old and it's just one of those things that's transferred from one resume version from the next and copied over exactly. So major freak out. LOL. I'm not a relaxed person.

I'm glad I told them I need a couple of days. Difficult decision.


The position is more senior than my current one in some ways. Not in other's though. But I like the diversity of experience I'd get there in terms of work. The work is much more diverse.

 

[fatafelice]

I agree with everything Neatfreak said, but most of all...

YAY FOR YOU!!!

Whether you take the job or not, at least this is some good news for you! (And an ego boost, right?)

 

[Ellen]

First off, congrats girly!!

Second, go with your gut, whatever that may be.

 

[allikatac]

Congratulations! I agree with Ellen. Go with your gut. You''ll know the right decision.

 

[Gypsy]

Date: 5/27/2008 6:55:15 PM
Author: neatfreak
Congrats Gypsy!!! One major question for you: Are you leaving your current job just because of demon boss or because of $ too? If it''s just because of demon boss then there is no guarantee this new job will be better due to crazy coworker. If it is a combo of things and you know you''ll just overall be happier at the new job even if coworker is a b*tch, then take the new job.

I think it''s a nice offer, but if you''re not totally sold on the job you can always negotiate and take it as a sign: accept if they renegotiate your offer and decline if they don''t. Games are fun. And they get you out of making annoying decisions

1. Demon Boss.
2. Rolling lay offs. Already had two rounds in two months. Business looks grim till the end of the year.
3. Would like more money, who wouldn''t.

Demon Boss is now leaving at 4pm everyday (long story). So I get a couple of hours without her daily. Thank god. But she''s so unstable.

Mom does value me. And she is a firecracker. And it IS a nice ego boost if nothing else.
Thank you for the congrats NF, Freke, Miranda, fata, and Ellen, allikata, and SDL.

I''d have to move to North Bay for this position. Not a huge deal. At all. And actually we''d like a two bedrooms, so we''d have moved in October anyway. Extra $$ would come in very handy with wedding issues.


As for gut. My gut wants to get out of here. Badly. And wants more money (lol). But is afraid of running away instead of to. And of a worse situation there than here, potentially.

 

[iheartscience]

Congratulations! I agree with the others-go with your gut. However, I know that I would much rather have a bitchy coworker than a psycho boss, so I''d probably make the switch.

As for the money, I would at least try to negotiate for more. Just tell them that you were researching similar positions or whatever and you were thinking more along the lines of $ X. You should always negotiate, in my opinion-the worst that can happen is they say no!

 

[Gypsy]

Just found out my background check STILL hasn't cleared. They had the name of one of my employers wrong.

Thank you Thing!! I will keep your advice in mind. So much to consider.

 

[Dancing Fire]

congrats Gypsy!!

 

[diamondfan]

In this economy those are important concerns.

Forget your mom, she is being silly or not getting it.

Also, a bitch co worker is better than a bitch boss, and no place is immune to bitchy behavior.

 

[AmberGretchen]

Congrats that''s fantastic

not that I doubted for a minute that they would hire you in all your fabulousness

But still, you should be very proud, that''s a fantastic accomplishment. Your mom''s response is hilarious - I think its very healthy that you can take it as you are doing and laugh at it.

Here''s my two cents, for what its worth. I think that things are highly unlikely to change at your current position. You''ve talked to (it seems) everyone who would have the power to make it change, and nothing has happened. The situation has no realistic prospect of improvement.

If you take the new job, you have a realistic prospect of improvement. There is the specter of the evil new co-worker, BUT, you would probably have more of a chance from the beginning to set boundaries with her and to direct your work as much as possible away from working with her. Additionally, I think that the increased diversity of work and the more stable financial environment within the company are huge pluses. Especially the second one - the economy is in a really rough place right now, and I think that being in a situation where you can more stably ride out this recession is important. And, the increased diversity of work would be a big bonus on your resume when you move on in the future.

But mostly I think it boils down to the first point. Studies have shown that people are much more unhappy, depressed, anxious, etc...when they feel they don''t have any control over their environment or destiny, especially in the workplace. And right now, you are in that place. But if you take this other job, you at least have a good prospect of being in a different place. And I think that maybe reading up, researching, talking to people, and in general getting a strategy in place as soon as possible can help minimize the negative impact that evil co-worker might have on your situation.

Anyway, like I said, just my two cents, and so take it for what its worth, but hopefully helpful. Good luck with the decision and congrats again - that''s very exciting

 

[isaku5]

Congratulations!!! I think you''ve answered your own questions, and your gut is saying, " Grab it!!"


As for your mom''s reaction: Yippee!!!!

My mom''s reaction to hearing my initial salary back in 1968 was, "They''re giving you that much?" It was a lot of money compared to what I''d been making as an occasional tutor - $2./hr or as a wife and SAHM @ $0/ hr.

We moms are a strange bunch. Our accountant daughter is very upfront with her earnings, but our son???? We know he makes a sizeable amount as one of 8 partners in a prosperous Canada wide company, but he hasn''t spilled the beans since he''s been married. Is his wife afraid we''re going to ask for a loan, or better yet a handout?

 

[Bia]

Seriously, CONGRATULATIONS! Money is important but it isn''t the most important, not if you won''t be happy there. If the move is better all around (or mostly) then go for it! Maybe try to negotiate a bit more...if they offered you the job, they would probably be fine with giving a little extra incentive...

Yay to you!!!

 

[Gypsy]

Thank you Dancing Fire.

DF... I found myself nodding with your post. My gut seems to be headed in that direction.

The economic concerns are looming large. Especially as 47 people got laid off from our campus (there are a few campuses) last week.

And Amber... Thank you very much for the encouraging, complimentary, and thoughtful post. I just continued nodding. I think I''m hitting a wall here. A breaking point. I''m stressed, depressed, anxious, and need pills every night to sleep. Grass may not be greener but it could be different. And I could, hopefully, set boundaries with the bitchy co-worker. Thank you again, my dear. Plus, that''s more money for makeup right!

So do I get myself a present if I get the new job? Or is would the new, larger apartment be my present?

Okay, okay... so the new apartment would be my present.

Darn. LOL.

 

[Gypsy]

Isaku... your sense of humor as a mom kills me. LOL. And your story about your mom''s reaction to your salary. hehehehe Thank you for being happy for me. You are a good friend.


Thank you Bia. I don''t know, I''m going to have to think about it. I think I COULD be happy there, whereas I am UNhappy here.

 

[Kaleigh]

Congrats!!!! I know you will make the right decision for YOU.

 

[LegacyGirl]

Awww congrats!!! I knew you''d get it You''ll know what to do, like everyone said follow your gut!

 

[Deelight]

Congrats Like others said follow your intuition and it should guide you the right way

 

[mimzy]

i''ve yet to have a career type job, so i can''t comment on negotiations or anything like that, but a big fat CONGRATULATIONS to you Gypsy!

 

[decodelighted]

Okay, I HAVE to ask ... why in the WORLD are you telling your mother what your SALARY is -- much less an OFFER (percentages etc???). I would no more talk to my mother about my day rate than - um - my SEX LIFE! WHaaaaa?? And, Gypsy, c''mon -- you KNOW your mother. The ultimate nay-sayer/frienemy/tut-tut/undermining control FREAK. You had to know nothing, no amount will ever be "enough".

Boundaries: heard of ''em??

(Congrats on the offer though!)

 

[Fly Girl]

Congratulations, Gypsy!!! I agree that they noticed just how fabulous you are.

I haven''t told my folks my salary in years. I might say the new job means a nice salary increase, but that''s all. I''d suggest that it is time for you to start being more vague about that.

Sounds like you are leaning towards taking the job. Worst case, you move on again sooner rather than later. Best case, you really enjoy it. Either way, your current position sounds absolutely toxic.

Good luck to you!!

 

[pjean]

Date: 5/27/2008 7:27:41 PM
Author: diamondfan
In this economy those are important concerns.


Forget your mom, she is being silly or not getting it.


Also, a bitch co worker is better than a bitch boss, and no place is immune to bitchy behavior.

I totally agree. And what''s more: WOOOOOO!!! Yay, Gypsy! I hope this gives you a nice boost, whatever you decide.

 

[luckystar112]

Congratulations Gypsy!!!!

I almost wonder if they are about let psycho-future co-worker go. I mean, it's not every day you're escorted out of an interview and still wind up getting the job. Especially if this is a person that the other workers respect. If you're going to have to work in a group with her, surely they would take great consideration of her impression of you.
I'm willing to bet that lady is on her way out. Perhaps it WAS a bad review, and she KNOWS she's on her way out. Maybe you're her replacement (or she just thought you were).

Just a thought!

Methinks you won't have to work with her very long.

ETA: I hope you don't think that I'm saying you don't DESERVE the job because of that crazy scenario. Because you deserve the world!

 

[iheartscience]

I tell my parents my raises, salary, etc. I''m pretty open with my parents about everything (with the obvious exception of one subject!), and we''re really close. So I don''t think you''re weird for sharing that info with your mom, Gypsy! Either that or we''re both weird...

 

[Catmom]

Congratulations Gypsy!! If anything this offer ought to show you that you are wanted and if you decide not to take this one then you should have no problems finding the right one!

 

[AmberGretchen]

Date: 5/27/2008 7:40:15 PM
Author: Gypsy
Thank you Dancing Fire.


DF... I found myself nodding with your post. My gut seems to be headed in that direction.


The economic concerns are looming large. Especially as 47 people got laid off from our campus (there are a few campuses) last week.


And Amber... Thank you very much for the encouraging, complimentary, and thoughtful post. I just continued nodding. I think I''m hitting a wall here. A breaking point. I''m stressed, depressed, anxious, and need pills every night to sleep. Grass may not be greener but it could be different. And I could, hopefully, set boundaries with the bitchy co-worker. Thank you again, my dear. Plus, that''s more money for makeup right!

So do I get myself a present if I get the new job? Or is would the new, larger apartment be my present?


Okay, okay... so the new apartment would be my present.


Darn. LOL.

Well, I think at least a *small* present is in order, if you take the job - you deserve it and then some for 1) putting up with all the stress in your current situation and 2) rocking the interview process enough with your general fabulousness to get the current job offer

Not that I enjoy enabling shopping or anything...