I hear Andrew Dice Clay is thinking of running too......

[starsapphire]

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/01/04/minnesota.senate.race/index.html

I just proves to me that anyone, can run and win an office! Whether or not we want them too.......

 

[HollyS]

Mmhmm. But in NY, they''re worried about whether Caroline Kennedy has the qualifications for Hillary''s Senate seat. Huh? Aside from residency, and age, what qualifications? Constitutionally speaking?

Doesn''t seem to bother anyone about Franken''s lack of experience . . . in this arena. But yes, if Jesse Ventura can win, if ''Aaunold'' can win in CA, politics is indeed anyone''s game.

 

[iheartscience]

I know, right?! Remember the VP candidate the GOP had in 2008?

 

[swimmer]

Ha! thank you for the laugh Thing!

 

[MoonWater]

Date: 1/4/2009 9:56:37 PM
Author: thing2of2
I know, right?! Remember the VP candidate the GOP had in 2008?

Ha! When we finally meet up for drinks, first round is on me.

 

[EricaR]

I''ve gotta say that Ah-nold has made a pretty good govenor so far. I was really against him taking office but so far he''s been A-ok...

 

[starsapphire]

Date: 1/4/2009 9:56:37 PM
Author: thing2of2
I know, right?! Remember the VP candidate the GOP had in 2008?

Hmmm, I guess being Governor of a state means nothing, hmmmm? I guess to you, it is right up there with trash collector. LOL

At least in this case.

 

[starsapphire]

Oh, yeah, wasn''t CLINTON a governor? And Yeah, Caroline Kennedy is, um......a Kennedy......yeah, America''s Royal Family.

 

[HollyS]

Date: 1/4/2009 9:56:37 PM
Author: thing2of2
I know, right?! Remember the VP candidate the GOP had in 2008?

Okay. That was funny.

 

[HollyS]

Date: 1/5/2009 7:00:00 AM
Author: starsapphire
Oh, yeah, wasn''t CLINTON a governor? And Yeah, Caroline Kennedy is, um......a Kennedy......yeah, America''s Royal Family.

The point is this: Lack of experience is a relative thing. It depends on which side of the fence you stand. It''s just as idiotic for conservatives to point fingers at Franken, as it is for liberals to demand more from Caroline Kennedy. It''s all very subjective.

Clinton was a governor. His ''lack of experience'' showed. Bush was a governor. A damn good one. But his ''lack of experience'' in bigger ponds showed. Carter was a governor. And boy, did it show. Palin is governor. And her lack of knowledge of things outside Alaska was evident.

I''m less inclined to worry over Franken''s lack of experience, and more inclined to ferverently hope Obama''s lack of experience doesn''t become problematic. As did Bush''s.

But I''ll trade experience for balls anyday in my President, be they man or woman.

 

[VRBeauty]

HollyS: I''m little concerned here... I''m agreeing with much of what you wrote!

Anyhow, I''ve worked with my State Legislature. I think that on-the job learning is actually a viable option for legislative positions (including Congress and the Senate), as long as the individual is intelligent, knows his or her district and its needs, and can work well with others to get things done. Oh, and they have to be willing to work hard, and to play the fund raising game.

Most legislative bodies are set up with a formal or informal seniority system that keeps new members out of trouble and allows them to learn, and caucuses that serve as a training and support system. Members have staff to help them out, and the smart ones look for experienced staff. Most of the heavy lifting is done in committee. Since each member sits on a limited number of committees, they can develop subject matter expertise if they don''t have it coming in. Bills go through numerous committees, and get analyzed by legislative staff specialists as well as the administration. Much of the deliberation is done in pubic (not all -- I''m not that naive!).

In my experience, pre-term limits, the most successful and long tenured legislators were the ones who were in it "for the right reasons," as we like to say. The ones who weren''t just there to feed their own egos or benefit their cronies, but who were pursuing some vision for change that would benefit the public, usually related to a specific area of interest such as education, law enforcement, or mental health.


I just proves to me that anyone, can run and win an office! Whether or not we want them too.......

Yes, anybody can run for office. Isn''t that the whole point of our form of democracy? I suppose in theory anyone could win too, but in practice, half or more of the candidates end up losing.

 

[iheartscience]

Date: 1/5/2009 12:58:04 AM
Author: MoonWater

Date: 1/4/2009 9:56:37 PM

Author: thing2of2

I know, right?! Remember the VP candidate the GOP had in 2008?

Ha! When we finally meet up for drinks, first round is on me.

Hahaha yes!

 

[MoonWater]

Date: 1/7/2009 11:31:34 PM
Author: thing2of2

Date: 1/5/2009 12:58:04 AM

Author: MoonWater

Date: 1/4/2009 9:56:37 PM


Author: thing2of2


I know, right?! Remember the VP candidate the GOP had in 2008?

Ha! When we finally meet up for drinks, first round is on me.

Hahaha yes!

Incidentally, just found out I'm going to NYC MLK weekend, I was like darnit, why couldn't thing be there then!!