I need help~ Which one is Better? Sapphire~

[chrono]

Wilds Global certainly has some pretty looking gemstones.

 

[limq05]

I just realized after looking a little further that the last pear I posted was from wilds global minerals. They have some of the best material on the market, and there eye is impeccable. It might be worth asking some hand shots to see its performance in different lighting environments.

http://www.etsy.com/shop/WILDSglobalminerals?ref=seller_info

~Justin

Thanks Justin and Chrono

I am quite busy these few days, so I cannot reply immediately.

I will come and post the pictures of the Sapphires in local store on Saturday.

 

[limq05]

Hi~ I am back.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Stunning-5-Carat-Natural-Blue-Sapphire-Diamond-Engagement-Ring-Solid-Platinum-/370665691178?pt=US_Fine_Rings&hash=item564d65982a
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Estate-Natural-Heart-Cut-Blue-Sapphire-Halo-Diamond-Cocktail-Ring-Solid-18K-Gold-/271079895057?pt=US_Fine_Rings&hash=item3f1d9ef011
http://www.ebay.com/itm/No-Heat-Natural-Blue-Sapphire-Diamond-Ring-Solid-Platinum-Royal-Engagement-/271081286097?pt=US_Fine_Rings&hash=item3f1db429d1
http://www.ebay.com/itm/4-cts-Unique-VVS-Grade-Hot-Cornflower-Blue-Sapphire-Srilanka-Oval-/370662132552?pt=Loose_Gemstones_1&hash=item564d2f4b48


Just find something different from ebay. How does everyone think?

I was disapointed last Satuday, the local store show me 4 loose Sapphires, however 3 of them are heated. And I dont like the unheated one neither~ And I also knew the prices of the 3 Sapphires which Justin post from africagems. They are all farrrrrrrrrr over my budget. (should I post the prices here? Is it allowed?)

I am still looking for "the one"~

 

[limq05]

Some other options

http://www.ebay.com/itm/7-99-Carat-Collector-Grade-Royal-Blue-Star-Sapphire-from-Ceylon-Loose-ECL-/251152598910?pt=Loose_Gemstones_1&hash=item3a79dc877e

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Certifed-Unheated-Ceylon-Sapphire-GIT-Report-3-ct-/110957635203?pt=Loose_Gemstones_1&hash=item19d5972683

http://www.ebay.com/itm/LUXURIOUS-ROYAL-BLUE-5-59-CTS-NR-CEYLON-BLUE-SAPPHIRE-/160894276739?pt=Loose_Gemstones_1&hash=item25760bd483

 

[chrono]

Link 1: You are looking at cabochons too? Perhaps the lighting is low, combined with the shadow cast from the camera but that sapphire looks very dark.
Link 2: Again, it is very dark with only a blue flash here and there.
Link 3: If a set stone shows such a big window, it means that window is here to stay. Still a lot of dark areas though but better than #1 and #2.
Link 4: Decent looking but I cannot play the video on my phone.
Link 5: Star cabochons can be lightly heated and this is often undisclosed. The star is nice but you'll only see it when you have a single light source. Most times, you have a plain cabochon so make sure you like the body colour. It is also not very translucent so I don't know if that's okay with you. In this case, you will often see a super dark blue cabochon and when the lighting is right, then the star shows up.
Link 6: GIT memo is fine and stone looks promising. Would have loved a video or hand shot to confirm accuracy of colour shown.
Link 7: Walk away from this one ASAP. Light goes right through and never comes back. In short, it's a leaker and dead looking stone.

All the above, except #3, #5 and #6 did not mention the treatment or the lack of treatment of the sapphire, so who knows if they are untreated. You are only informed that it is a natural sapphire, which means it's real and not a synthetic. And even for #3, there is no proof that the sapphire in unheated.

 

[minousbijoux]

Picking up where Chrono left off - I can see the video in 4, and it looks very different than still photos. Without being flooded with light - like the stills - the sapphire is overly dark. I would definitely eliminate 4.

5: I would want more pix to confirm color; I don't like the tint of the photo, liked they amped up the intensity and even enhanced the blue tones to escalate the blue color of the star. Also, there are two vendors with similar names, only one of which is considered decent by some folks here. I would definitely do a search to see past reviews from PSers.

6. Definitely check with vendor about treatments.

7. Out of the running - a ruinous window - almost like someone just sliced off the pavilion!

 

[limq05]

Thanks for all!~

Yes, a cabochon one is also OK for me

 

[limq05]

Thanks for all!~

Yes, a cabochon one is also OK for me

 

[limq05]

Thanks for all!~

Yes, a cabochon one is also OK for me

 

[limq05]

Another question Chrono~

I pretty like the third link one~

Is that really not a good choice?

 

[limq05]

some pre-owned rings

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220994829426&fromMakeTrack=true&ssPageName=VIP:watchlink:top:en

http://www.ebay.com/itm/5-17CT-NATURAL-NO-HEAT-SAPPHIRE-1-30CT-F-SI1-TRILLIANT-DIAMOND-PLATINUM-RING-/370626739578?pt=US_Fine_Rings&hash=item564b133d7a

http://www.ebay.com/itm/5-01CT-NATURAL-SAPPHIRE-1-45CT-DIAMOND-ANTIQUE-CUSHION-PLATINUM-RING-/370597318069?pt=US_Fine_Rings&hash=item5649524db5


However far over my budget

These looked more affordable

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1900s-NATURAL-UNTREATED-3-99CT-OVAL-VIVID-BLUE-SAPPHIRE-FINE-ROUND-DIAMOND-RING-/230843005116?pt=US_Fine_Rings&hash=item35bf50b8bc

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ESTATE-PLATINUM-1900-s-OLD-CUT-CEYLON-SAPPHIRE-PAVE-SET-ROUND-DIAMOND-RING-AGTA-/221124919706?pt=US_Fine_Rings&hash=item337c12819a

http://www.ebay.com/itm/3-21CT-NATURAL-NO-HEAT-CERTIFIED-CORNFLOWER-BLUE-SAPPHIRE-PLATINUM-RING-DECO-/370632449780?pt=US_Fine_Rings&hash=item564b6a5ef4

http://www.ebay.com/itm/GIA-Certified-18kt-W-Gold-7-23ct-Blue-Cushion-Cut-Ceylon-Sapphire-Diamond-Ring-/251058086209?pt=US_Fine_Rings&hash=item3a743a6141

I find myself looking for Sapphire almost anytime when I was free.

 

[chrono]

Another question Chrono~
I pretty like the third link one~
Is that really not a good choice?

The colour is somewhat decent but the cut is lacking. If a set stone shows such a large window, the stone's cut is not good to begin with. Light will leak right through the center and instead of seeing colour, you will see either the metal setting or your skin underneath. Not only that, that part of the stone will look dead and lifeless. Now, if that stone had spectacular colour, is a rare variety at a good price, then I'll forgive the window but not in this particular case. There also seem to be quite a lot of dark areas in the sapphire. Do you mind seeing more darkness than the blue colour? Where is the proof that the sapphire is untreated? I would want proper lab documentation if I have to spend that much money. The free appraisal is useless and a waste of paper so I don't put any stock in that.

 

[pregcurious]

This page explains what a window is, which is what Chrono is pointing out in stone 3:

http://www.palagems.com/quality_4cs.htm

 

[limq05]

Another question Chrono~
I pretty like the third link one~
Is that really not a good choice?

The colour is somewhat decent but the cut is lacking. If a set stone shows such a large window, the stone's cut is not good to begin with. Light will leak right through the center and instead of seeing colour, you will see either the metal setting or your skin underneath. Not only that, that part of the stone will look dead and lifeless. Now, if that stone had spectacular colour, is a rare variety at a good price, then I'll forgive the window but not in this particular case. There also seem to be quite a lot of dark areas in the sapphire. Do you mind seeing more darkness than the blue colour? Where is the proof that the sapphire is untreated? I would want proper lab documentation if I have to spend that much money. The free appraisal is useless and a waste of paper so I don't put any stock in that.

Got it! Thanks Chrono!
By your explanation, I think I begin to understand not the "Text description" of window and extinction.

Appraisal a color stone really need lots of experiences~ If I am gonna purchase this one , I will asked for a lab docmentation.


And you mentionend about "Do you mind seeing more darkness than the blue colour?" It really depend on how dark it will be. I dont have a intuitive notice about it.


BTW, here is the link of the video of the 3CT loose Sapphires http://s851.photobucket.com/albums/ab80/type-green/?action=view&current=MVI_6742.mp4

 

[limq05]

This page explains what a window is, which is what Chrono is pointing out in stone 3:

http://www.palagems.com/quality_4cs.htm

Thanks I know I still have much to learn about color stones.

 

[chrono]

Second listing:
Link 1: I don't see any pictures of the Tiffany stamp to see if it's a true Tiffany ring or a replica. Decent colour with just average saturation. Nothing special although the setting is very pretty.
Link 2: No colour grading on the AGL prestige report? This stone is super deep so although it is a 5 carat stone, it faces up like a 3.5 carat sapphire. I would not want to pay that much for something I cannot see. If the price can be lowered significantly, then I don't mind getting a stone that deep.
Link 3: Shows promise. Cut is a little off but not too bad. There are some darkness that warrants more investigation. A hand shot or videos will be good.

For those that are from the same vendor, you can ask his opinion on the stones and rings.

Link 4: Also a promising stone and I would want hand shots and a video.
Link 5: Skip. Gaping bay door staring me in the face. This one is heated too; I though you wanted an unheated stone?
Link 6: Skip. Another one with a big window. You can do much better than this.
Link 7: I am ambivalent about the setting. It looks as though one knock is all it takes to separate the halo from the rest of the ring. Not only that, look at how high the stone is set from the shank. It is impractical to wear this if you want to use your hand.

 

[chrono]

And you mentionend about "Do you mind seeing more darkness than the blue colour?" It really depend on how dark it will be. I dont have a intuitive notice about it.

BTW, here is the link of the video of the 3CT loose Sapphires http://s851.hosting site images not allowed/albums/ab80/type-green/?action=view&current=MVI_6742.mp4

In that case, I'd suggeest going to see as many sapphires as you can in person. Just regular sapphires to get a feel of the darkness that is common in many stones. Then go to some super high end stores to see their sapphires. There's no guarantee it'll be really nice but you should notice stronger saturation and better brilliancy. Your link does not work for me. Do you mind trying again?