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Brown.Eyed.Girl

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So I''ve been in contact with a reputable Bengal breeder in the Chicago area, and put a deposit down weeks ago. I would be choosing a boy from the litter due this week...unfortunately, I got a call from her today, saying that all of the kittens were stillborn
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Apparently, the mom had enough progestin to get the pregnancy going but not enough to birth the kittens alive.... anyway this is extremely sad, and also kind of throws ours (BF and I) plans into a crunch (sorry if I''m mixing metaphors - I''m exhausted). The breeder gave us a few options, and I need to decide what to do. I''m hoping any and all cat lovers, and also Bengal lovers in particular, will chime in. So the options:

1) The breeder offered to return my deposit, so I can look elsewhere.

2) The breeder is planning on breeding the same female cat when she gets back in heat (on vet''s recommendation) and I can wait for that or another litter. Those kittens will probably not be born until the fall.

3) The breeder is mentoring another breeder, whose cats have just had their first litter. They have one six week boy left, and I can have him - same guarantees, price and I would be using the original breeder''s contract.

Some pros and cons of each option:

1) I looked at other breeders in my area, and none jumped out. BF and I have a timing issue - we want the kitten this year, end of September or as close to, because we want to spend as much time with it as possible in our last year of law school. We''re going to be abroad until the end of Sept. and can''t take a kitten until then. None of the breeders in my area have either the type of kitten I want (rosetted, not marbled) or have any kittens being born soon....all being born late summer/fall. Timing doesn''t work out as well.

2) Same issue with waiting for the new litter...kittens will probably not be ready to go home until late fall.

3) Taking the 6-week kitten - this seems the more promising, because I did check the pedigree (it''s fine, and I recognize both sire and dam, and both sire and dam are from a very reputable breeder), and the kitten is adorable. I''m concerned about the age....this litter that would have been born now would still have been about 15 weeks by the time I got to take my kitten home (because of being abroad). If the kitten is 6 weeks now, and I can''t have him until end of September, he''ll be about 20 weeks old (5 months). I''m not sure - is that too old for him to properly bond with us? That''s my biggest concern.

Sigh, I''m not sure what to do. Advice please?

And for viewing pleasure, pics of the 6 week kitten attached
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That's a totally adorable kitten!! I was stalking Bengal kitties and rescue cats online after SanDiegoLady's wonderful thread. No kitties in the plans for now, but maybe in the future...

My non-expert opinion is to decide if you'd rather have the experience of raising a young kitten from the furball stages onward but starting later in fall or getting your slightly older kitten right away upon your return in Sept. The older kitty seems like a great option (and shouldn't suffer too much if kept by your reputable breeder) but if you want to start with a young kitten, that is part of what you are paying for with a breeder kitty.
 
Date: 6/22/2009 1:07:03 AM
Author: cara
That''s a totally adorable kitten!! I was stalking Bengal kitties and rescue cats online after SanDiegoLady''s wonderful thread. No kitties in the plans for now, but maybe in the future...


My non-expert opinion is to decide if you''d rather have the experience of raising a young kitten from the furball stages onward but starting later in fall or getting your slightly older kitten right away upon your return in Sept. The older kitty seems like a great option (and shouldn''t suffer too much if kept by your reputable breeder) but if you want to start with a young kitten, that is part of what you are paying for with a breeder kitty.

Cara, same here! The Bengal SDLady found was so gorgeous. I''m not sure - I wouldn''t mind the older kitten too much as long as I''m not missing out on some crucial stage of bonding or something, y''know? If that''s not really an issue when getting a kitten that''s about 5 months instead of 3 months, then I think this is where I''m leaning. Plus side, maybe the kitten will have outgrown all of his litterbox accidents phase?
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Hi B.E.G! You know I also fell in love with Bengals when I heard all about SDL taking Brutus in. We got Gracie a month ago and she is 4 years old. She was kept in an outside cattery while they were using her for breeding. She has bonded with us very quickly. I wonder if it will be the same if you get the beautiful boy you showed us. I am not an expert on cats and it was a concern that Gracie would be totally shell shocked moving in with us.

My biggest problem with her is that she is mad! She runs round like a crazy lady all night and sleeps all day! We love her though. She is a wonderful addition to our family.
 
I''m not sure I understand why getting a later in the fall - after September - would be an issue? When would it be - November? I guess I understand why you can''t have a kitten until Sept, but I don''t understand why you couldn''t wait longer for the right kitten?

I''m no expert on Bengal cats. I will say that I adopted my cat from the humane society and the rough estimate was 5-6 months of age. She bonded just fine with me. I would think that since this cat would be taken care of and handled by humans until you get it - bonding would be no problem. My cat was a bit standoffish for quite some time (though I admit she still is as she''s not a lap cat and is very independent but that''s her personality) but we don''t know what her life was like prior to the humane society. So I think that had more to do with it than anything. She was obviously malnourished as she couldn''t even hold her tail up for a while. It just drug behind her wherever she went. Long story short I think your kitten will bond no problem as it''s having a happy life right now! :)
 
I got one of my cats at 5 years old, and one at 5 months. Both are completely bonded to me (okay, Ezra loves BF a little bit more than he loves me), and I haven''t noticed any difference in my friends that got kittens at 4 months and those that got them at 5 months. Mine were shelter cats, so that might make a difference, but I think if you give it a few weeks he should bond with you fairly easily. In the end, you''ll be the one feeding him and playing with him and loving him to pieces, and he''ll pick up on that.
 
Hi BEG,

He is such an adorable little guy! I don''t think you will miss any critical bonding time. I''ve adopted all of my cats as adult cats. I adopted my Cayman when he was 8 years old, and he will be 20 this year! We bonded just fine, even though I missed the first 8 years of his life!! I don''t think a few months will make a difference. I say go for it!!

Let us know what you decide to do.
 
Oh, you have to take him, he is way too cute!

I think you''ll bond just fine...

I found my cat when he was about a year old...and we love each other
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I think you''ll be fine!
 
Date: 6/22/2009 9:19:32 AM
Author: Maisie
Hi B.E.G! You know I also fell in love with Bengals when I heard all about SDL taking Brutus in. We got Gracie a month ago and she is 4 years old. She was kept in an outside cattery while they were using her for breeding. She has bonded with us very quickly. I wonder if it will be the same if you get the beautiful boy you showed us. I am not an expert on cats and it was a concern that Gracie would be totally shell shocked moving in with us.

My biggest problem with her is that she is mad! She runs round like a crazy lady all night and sleeps all day! We love her though. She is a wonderful addition to our family.
Maisie, i was hoping you''d stop by! How is Gracie? It sounds like she''s settled right in! Haha I''m a little nervous about the famed Bengal energy level - I think our kitten will definitely keep us hopping!
 
Date: 6/22/2009 9:27:06 AM
Author: hoofbeats95
I''m not sure I understand why getting a later in the fall - after September - would be an issue? When would it be - November? I guess I understand why you can''t have a kitten until Sept, but I don''t understand why you couldn''t wait longer for the right kitten?

I''m no expert on Bengal cats. I will say that I adopted my cat from the humane society and the rough estimate was 5-6 months of age. She bonded just fine with me. I would think that since this cat would be taken care of and handled by humans until you get it - bonding would be no problem. My cat was a bit standoffish for quite some time (though I admit she still is as she''s not a lap cat and is very independent but that''s her personality) but we don''t know what her life was like prior to the humane society. So I think that had more to do with it than anything. She was obviously malnourished as she couldn''t even hold her tail up for a while. It just drug behind her wherever she went. Long story short I think your kitten will bond no problem as it''s having a happy life right now! :)
Well, BF and I might be planning an extended trip next fall (of 2010) as well, but that may or may not happen. In the event it does, we want as much time as possible 24/7 with our kitten as he''s growing up...which means getting him as early as possible. I wish I could get him earlier but our trip this fall interferes. Also, I may want to add another kitten about 2-3 months after we get this one (after we get a handle on living with and taking care of ONE kitten!) and we want as much time with that one too.
 
Date: 6/22/2009 9:52:44 AM
Author: princesss
I got one of my cats at 5 years old, and one at 5 months. Both are completely bonded to me (okay, Ezra loves BF a little bit more than he loves me), and I haven''t noticed any difference in my friends that got kittens at 4 months and those that got them at 5 months. Mine were shelter cats, so that might make a difference, but I think if you give it a few weeks he should bond with you fairly easily. In the end, you''ll be the one feeding him and playing with him and loving him to pieces, and he''ll pick up on that.
Haha I did tell BF that I wanted a boy because I was hoping our kitten would bond with me more
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It sounds like yours transitioned very well - I''m really leaning towards this one now, pending another conversation with my breeder to get all my questions asked (our conversation yesterday was rather rushed since I was running out the door)
 
Date: 6/22/2009 9:57:33 AM
Author: Loves Vintage
Hi BEG,

He is such an adorable little guy! I don''t think you will miss any critical bonding time. I''ve adopted all of my cats as adult cats. I adopted my Cayman when he was 8 years old, and he will be 20 this year! We bonded just fine, even though I missed the first 8 years of his life!! I don''t think a few months will make a difference. I say go for it!!

Let us know what you decide to do.
Isn''t he?
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He''s such a cutie - BF is pretty convinced that I''m going to get him since I keep looking at his picture, lol. I will definitely update you guys once I hear back from the breeder. I''m hoping to touch base with her this afternoon.
 
Date: 6/22/2009 11:07:11 AM
Author: CJ2008
Oh, you have to take him, he is way too cute!

I think you''ll bond just fine...

I found my cat when he was about a year old...and we love each other
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I think you''ll be fine!
Aww how long have you had your cat? He is adorable! I''m such a sucker for cute kitten faces!
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Date: 6/22/2009 12:10:19 PM
Author: Brown.Eyed.Girl

Date: 6/22/2009 9:19:32 AM
Author: Maisie
Hi B.E.G! You know I also fell in love with Bengals when I heard all about SDL taking Brutus in. We got Gracie a month ago and she is 4 years old. She was kept in an outside cattery while they were using her for breeding. She has bonded with us very quickly. I wonder if it will be the same if you get the beautiful boy you showed us. I am not an expert on cats and it was a concern that Gracie would be totally shell shocked moving in with us.

My biggest problem with her is that she is mad! She runs round like a crazy lady all night and sleeps all day! We love her though. She is a wonderful addition to our family.
Maisie, i was hoping you''d stop by! How is Gracie? It sounds like she''s settled right in! Haha I''m a little nervous about the famed Bengal energy level - I think our kitten will definitely keep us hopping!
She really is settling in just fine. We expected weeks of hiding and refusing to eat/play/come out from under the bed but it only took her a few days and she was great! She is still slightly nervous, it would have been a shock to her system coming into a house full of people. I have laughed so much the past few weeks at her antics. She is good for me!
 
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I really don''t think you''ll have any issues with him bonding to you. I mean, people get shelter cats all the time who bond to them very strongly! I think the most important thing is that he gets attention and bonding from *a* human in his early months to socialize him with people. Once you take him home, he''ll just transfer that natural people bond to you!

He''s such a cutie and if you''re leaning that way, you should get him!
 
Date: 6/22/2009 12:29:07 PM
Author: Maisie

Date: 6/22/2009 12:10:19 PM
Author: Brown.Eyed.Girl


Date: 6/22/2009 9:19:32 AM
Author: Maisie
Hi B.E.G! You know I also fell in love with Bengals when I heard all about SDL taking Brutus in. We got Gracie a month ago and she is 4 years old. She was kept in an outside cattery while they were using her for breeding. She has bonded with us very quickly. I wonder if it will be the same if you get the beautiful boy you showed us. I am not an expert on cats and it was a concern that Gracie would be totally shell shocked moving in with us.

My biggest problem with her is that she is mad! She runs round like a crazy lady all night and sleeps all day! We love her though. She is a wonderful addition to our family.
Maisie, i was hoping you''d stop by! How is Gracie? It sounds like she''s settled right in! Haha I''m a little nervous about the famed Bengal energy level - I think our kitten will definitely keep us hopping!
She really is settling in just fine. We expected weeks of hiding and refusing to eat/play/come out from under the bed but it only took her a few days and she was great! She is still slightly nervous, it would have been a shock to her system coming into a house full of people. I have laughed so much the past few weeks at her antics. She is good for me!
She''s so cute. It''s awesome that she''s adapted so quickly and well - what a gorgeous girl! I bet it was a shock...but I''m sure she loves getting so much undivided attention though! I will definitely be asking you more about Bengals in the next few months if you don''t mind!
 
Date: 6/22/2009 1:19:22 PM
Author: elrohwen
I really don''t think you''ll have any issues with him bonding to you. I mean, people get shelter cats all the time who bond to them very strongly! I think the most important thing is that he gets attention and bonding from *a* human in his early months to socialize him with people. Once you take him home, he''ll just transfer that natural people bond to you!

He''s such a cutie and if you''re leaning that way, you should get him!
So I decided that I''m going to get him! I did speak with my breeder, and I''m going to get in touch with the other breeder who owns him, but I''m pretty sure that I''ll be taking that little boy home with me in September. I mostly want to contact his breeder now so I can ask her for more pics!
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I''m so excited!
 
You won''t have a problem bonding, I actually had one of my babies at 6 months old and I bonded as easily with him as I did with my other kittahs, some of whom were 2 month old kittens when I brought them home.
 
Date: 6/22/2009 3:22:04 PM
Author: Lorelei
You won''t have a problem bonding, I actually had one of my babies at 6 months old and I bonded as easily with him as I did with my other kittahs, some of whom were 2 month old kittens when I brought them home.
Aw I''m so glad to hear it! How many cats do you have now? I so want another one...I want to give Kipling a playmate. I''m trying to bide my time though and give BF time to fall in love with Kipling before I broach the subject
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Date: 6/22/2009 3:31:12 PM
Author: Brown.Eyed.Girl


Date: 6/22/2009 3:22:04 PM
Author: Lorelei
You won't have a problem bonding, I actually had one of my babies at 6 months old and I bonded as easily with him as I did with my other kittahs, some of whom were 2 month old kittens when I brought them home.
Aw I'm so glad to hear it! How many cats do you have now? I so want another one...I want to give Kipling a playmate. I'm trying to bide my time though and give BF time to fall in love with Kipling before I broach the subject
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* cough...* 8 cats, 7 indoors....
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The outside cat is a feral tomcat I have tamed who now lives here with us.
 
Date: 6/22/2009 3:32:56 PM
Author: Lorelei

Date: 6/22/2009 3:31:12 PM
Author: Brown.Eyed.Girl



Date: 6/22/2009 3:22:04 PM
Author: Lorelei
You won''t have a problem bonding, I actually had one of my babies at 6 months old and I bonded as easily with him as I did with my other kittahs, some of whom were 2 month old kittens when I brought them home.
Aw I''m so glad to hear it! How many cats do you have now? I so want another one...I want to give Kipling a playmate. I''m trying to bide my time though and give BF time to fall in love with Kipling before I broach the subject
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* cough...* 8 cats, 7 indoors....
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The outside cat is a feral tomcat I have tamed who now lives here with us.
Haha I bet they''re adorable! Yeah, I think BF will draw the line at 2 max
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But I plan to mix in a couple dogs eventually too
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Yay!

I have two kitties, and I do think that they keep each other entertained. BF is allergic, so I can''t have more than two. Plus we want to move around a lot, and too many animals makes that a problem. He''s got a puppy, so when we move in together we''ll have 2 cats and a dog. I think that''s juuuuust right.
 
Date: 6/22/2009 4:10:19 PM
Author: princesss
Yay!

I have two kitties, and I do think that they keep each other entertained. BF is allergic, so I can''t have more than two. Plus we want to move around a lot, and too many animals makes that a problem. He''s got a puppy, so when we move in together we''ll have 2 cats and a dog. I think that''s juuuuust right.
Aww I am so jealous! I would love two cats and a dog. I would seriously keep so many animals if I was allowed and had the money. BF isn''t that keen on animals although he was attached to his golden retriever growing up. But he''s much more of a dog person. I have to say though, he''s fascinated with how exotic the Bengals look, so that''s a good start!
 
Yay!!! I am thrilled you are getting him!! What a precious little baby he is! I''m not sure I will be any use with technical cat stuff but I will enjoy sharing experiences as we go!!
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Date: 6/22/2009 5:00:56 PM
Author: Maisie
Yay!!! I am thrilled you are getting him!! What a precious little baby he is! I''m not sure I will be any use with technical cat stuff but I will enjoy sharing experiences as we go!!
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I''m so so excited!!! Maisie, too bad we don''t live near each other for kitty playdates! But yes, we definitely need to compare notes!
 
I know! That would have been great fun!! We will to share photos of our babies!!
 
Yay! I'm so glad you're going with the little boy. Our girl is the sweetest thing ever - we got her at the age of 8, after her "showbiz" career (she was in a cat food advert on TV, amongst other things!), and we had no problem bonding at all. It helped that she had always been looked after really well by her previous owner (a very responsible Bengal breeder), so she thinks all people are awesome. I don't think you'd have any problems with a Bengal at that age.

Your little guy is beautiful by the way!
 
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