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Idealscope and Pictures of my BN 2.035 ct H SI1 - Need your opinions!

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dcsearcher

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Hey folks,

ok, my ideal scope has arrived and I took the following picture. Here''s the stats on the diamond again:

AGS0
H
2.035 ct
HCA 1.3
SI1
$15,800

Here are my questions:

1. How does the IdealScope image look?
2. You can plainly see the major inclusion - a crystal under the table - HOW CONCERNED SHOULD I BE? with the plain eye, you can just see it through the table if you are looking for it.
I realize it''s not the best place for one.


Thanks for your opinions!

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here''s some additional pics - from the appraiser:

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and one I took (not so good) :)

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Been waiting for this one!!!

The crystal is a problem if it bothers you, if you think you will be concerned and keep looking for it then maybe this isn''t the right diamond. If it isn''t a big deal to you and you don''t mind having a little birthmark that you can use to easily identify your diamond then it is fine. No easy answer, only you can decide!

The IS looks good.
 
I have to agree with Lorelei on this one - only you can judge how and to what extent that inclusion bothers you. I have an SI1 stone and all of the inclusions are off to the edges of the stone leaving the table area clean. This was extremely important to me because if I know it is there, I will never stop looking for it. Hopefully, you aren''t anywhere near as OCD as I am. It is a curse in most instances!
 
I think that it''s a beautiful stone, and I think that your FI would be so excited to have it. If the inclusion bothers you, though, maybe you could go backm to Mervis to compare & negotiate. Honestly, though, that BN stone is beautiful & a great deal for a 2 ct. My stone''s clarity is SI1, and even though you can easily see the inclusion through a loupe, it''s impossible to see with the naked eye in nearly every type of lighting. That was good enough for me, so it just depends on the clarity that you''re comfortable with.

For brilliant cut stones, I''m fine with an SI2 clarity, but for step cuts, I like VS2 and above. Everyone''s different though ... I would probably keep that stone that you got.
 
Thanks folks - I guess I just need to make a decision.

Would you say that it is the particular nature of this inclusion that is behind the price? I do think the price is great, especially for a AGS0...

Would it be worth calling GOG and seeing if they can find me something better?

Plans are to give this to her end of February (we have an excellent African trip planned and I want that to be our celebration!)

Your thoughts are great... I know she would love this stone. She''s never one to fuss and would be happy, I know, with anything because of what it means, not what it is. If anything, I am the anal one in our relationship and she means so much to me that I want to make sure she has something special.
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Thanks for the advice... you guys are great!!
 
I would be bothered with it seeing as it is in the middle of the table.
 
This is how I would feel about it if I was your future FI: I love big diamonds and I really love ideal cut diamonds, so I would really really love THAT diamond. But what about the inclusion you say? Well, the inclusion would ONLY bother me if you/we could easily afford a similar sized diamond without any inclusion. In that case I might think, "Well, I could have had one with no blemish at all!!" But, if the inclusion and the associated lower price (yes I think the inclusion is driving the price) allowed me to have such a beautiful, big, sparkly rock on my finger, then I would wear it happily! I bet you can only really see it if you look for it. Every time I saw it I would think to myself, "Thanks little inclusion, because of you I have this lovely, firey masterpiece!!"

Heck, even if we could afford one without the inclusion, I might still like it because it was such a good deal!!

But then maybe I am pragmatic and wierd.
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The cut is great.


The SI in the microscope shot has been lit to show the mark - if you can see it now I bet you $100 you will not in 10 years time.


It is a white mark and is fairly graded I think - if it was black it would be SI2, and it will not afect the brightness of the stone


The better test is could you see it if you did not know where it is? I doubt it.

 
Thanks Gary - you are right, I probably couldn''t really see it from above unless I was really looking for it. While it is white in the pictures, I will say that when you do find it, I can see it as a tiny pinpoint that looks black... maybe that is just because it is small?

When you can really see it is when looking up through the pavilion, which I suppose you really can''t do once it is mounted. There is a bizarre effect, though, due to its location. when you turn the stone over on the table and look straight down, you see the inclusion in every pavilion facet, like around the clock... I think that is because it is right in the middle? It''s strange, but again, I you''ll never see the stone that way once mounted, right?

It is pretty tough to see from the side as well.
 
Date: 1/4/2009 12:14:09 PM
Author: dcsearcher
Thanks Gary - you are right, I probably couldn''t really see it from above unless I was really looking for it. While it is white in the pictures, I will say that when you do find it, I can see it as a tiny pinpoint that looks black... maybe that is just because it is small?

When you can really see it is when looking up through the pavilion, which I suppose you really can''t do once it is mounted. There is a bizarre effect, though, due to its location. when you turn the stone over on the table and look straight down, you see the inclusion in every pavilion facet, like around the clock... I think that is because it is right in the middle? It''s strange, but again, I you''ll never see the stone that way once mounted, right?

It is pretty tough to see from the side as well.
That is good - it means the inclusion is very very close to the table and where you would want it to minimize face up reflections (if the inclusion is near the center or lower in the stone it caan reflect around like this one does upside down.)

Grading must be done face up. So only consider that
 
Thanks all - really appreciate the thoughts and feedback. I''ve looked at the diamond now so many times, I think I may be hurting myself!

Decision made - Going to keep it. I think it is beautiful and a damn good price. Worse case, if she can even find it, we''ll name the crystal for fun (any suggestions?).

Now, onto the setting!

Any thoughts here? I really want to go simple - she loves the simplicity of a nice cathedral setting. The one at BN that will fit this stone has a ring "basket" around the prongs, though, which I don''t want.

I would like a nice cathedral that has 4 traditional prongs. Also will be important that the band (which I know she wants to be an eternity band) fits flush.

Any good suggestions?

THANKS again for all of the help!
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