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IMO the BBC blew it. Penny for your thoughts.

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This BBC article is about Jodorowsky's 1970 film El Tropo.


Per the below WikiSnip, an early interview the actor/film director, Alejandro Jodorowsky, said he raped an actress on camera for El Tropo.
Later he claimed he only said that because saying shocking things was the only way to get press attention; since he was an unknown Mexican film maker, In the USA only Hollywood films got any press attention.

When shown the film caused a riot in Mexico and was eventually banned there.
In 1971 in NYC John Lennon and Yoko saw and praised it, turning it into a cult classic with the midnight movie crowd years before 1975's The Rocky Horror Picture Show.

Anyway, IMO after claiming to rape a woman on camera (I haven't seen El Tropo, but read the rape seen appears real) and reading about the horrendous things this guy said (quoted below) his work should get ZERO promotion, especially via media attention.
I think the BBC blew really blew it by publishing their article.
IMO giving attention to this guy results in more viewing and profit for him.

This snip is crazy-long; it's part of Wikipedia's entry on Jodorowsky:

Criticism and controversy[edit]
When Jodorowsky's first feature film, Fando y Lis, premiered at the 1968 Acapulco Film Festival, the screening was controversial and erupted into a riot, due to its graphic content.[91] Jodorowsky had to leave the theatre by sneaking outside to a waiting limousine, and when the crowd outside the theatre recognized him, the car was pelted with rocks.[92] The following week, the film opened to sell-out crowds in Mexico City, but more fights broke out, and the film was banned by the Mexican government.[93] Jodorowsky himself was nearly deported and the controversy provided a great deal of fodder for the Mexican newspapers.[94]

In regard to the making of El Topo, Jodorowsky allegedly stated in the early 1970s:

When I wanted to do the rape scene, I explained to [Mara Lorenzio] that I was going to hit her and rape her. There was no emotional relationship between us, because I had put a clause in all the women's contracts stating that they would not make love with the director. We had never talked to each other. I knew nothing about her. We went to the desert with two other people: the photographer and a technician. No one else. I said, 'I'm not going to rehearse. There will be only one take because it will be impossible to repeat. Roll the cameras only when I signal you to.' Then I told her, 'Pain does not hurt. Hit me.' And she hit me. I said, 'Harder.' And she started to hit me very hard, hard enough to break a rib...I ached for a week. After she had hit me long enough and hard enough to tire her, I said, 'Now it's my turn. Roll the cameras.' And I really...I really...I really raped her. And she screamed ... Then she told me that she had been raped before. You see, for me the character is frigid until El Topo rapes her. And she has an orgasm. That's why I show a stone phallus in that scene ... which spouts water. She has an orgasm. She accepts the male sex. And that's what happened to Mara in reality. She really had that problem. Fantastic scene. A very, very strong scene.[95]

In the documentary Jodorowsky's Dune, Jodorowsky states:

When you make a picture, you must not respect the novel. It’s like getting married ... if you respect the woman, you will never have child. You need to open the costume and to rape the bride – and then you will have your picture. I was raping Frank Herbert ... but with love.[96]

When these alleged comments came to light, as a response to the ensuing backlash, Alejandro Jodorowsky announced that he did not recall making those remarks, but admitted that he often used shock value and impersonation to get noticed in the early 1970s press. He made a thorough statement[97] on his Facebook account on 26 June 2017, in response to the question: Did you rape an actress during the filming of El Topo?

The following excerpts are from said statement:

Where did [the people claiming that I raped Mara Lorenzio on the set of El Topo in front of the camera] find reports of this alleged incident that would have happened in 1969?

It's very possible that they read some of the interviews I did in the United States or England back then. I produced El Topo independently. When I told the Mexican film industry that I was going to travel to New York to sell El Topo, they made fun of me. "You're crazy, only Emilio Fernandez ('El Indio') has ever managed to release a movie there and that's why there is a statue of him. No Mexican film has ever crossed the cactus wall." In the North American cinematographic environment of the time, Mexican cinema was despised. Hollywood dominated everything.

I had to break through using the only tool I had: shock through scandalous statements. This is how I did it: I dressed up as the mystical bandit character [the titular El Topo], I introduced myself in the interviews with a beard, a mane and a black leather suit, and I said things that purposefully shocked the interviewers. "I am an anti-feminist, I hate women. I hate cats. I've eaten human meat tacos with Diego Rivera. El Topo is a film where things really happened: that scene of rape is a real rape! I killed the animals (that in reality I had purchased dead from a local zoo) with a fork I sharpened myself!" These aggressive, meant to be humorous declarations conquered the era's young public who were against the establishment and affected by the Vietnam war. This is how I managed to get El Topo to be noticed and seen, and, thanks to the openly proclaimed admiration of John Lennon and Yoko Ono, my film became a cult classic. Half a century has passed and it continues to be screened and discussed.

Jodorowsky also offered details in that same statement on the filming of the so-called "rape scene", proclaiming that it would be impossible to commit such a crime on a large movie set:

Filming a scene like this is not achieved with just a cameraman, two actors and an expanse of sand. Cinema is the most costly art because a large number of technicians and artists are required to execute it. First of all, you needed a group of workers to clean a hundred square meters of desert with rakes because of dangerous snakes and spiders that were hidden in the sand. They remained for the duration of the filming, at the ready, to intervene if necessary. There was also a group of makeup artists, hairdressers and dressmakers in charge of costumes.

[In the movie,] El Topo rips apart the woman's dress in a take that lasts 10 seconds.
It is followed by another take of El Topo [doing the same], but from a different angle. Filming stopped for half an hour or so for the technicians to change the reflectors. That is to say that in order to shoot an action sequence that does not even last more than three minutes, several hours were needed. And it wasn't just a single cameraman, but two cameras, each with one operator and four assistants. A total of 10 camera people. Added to this were crewmen placing rails where the camera slid, handling the counterweights of a crane, holding silver reflector cards so that each face is well-lit. There was also the assistant director, the group of set decorators, other actors, etc. A big crowd that the audience does not see. In addition, there were people holding the individual umbrellas protecting the actors from the sun, others that delivered water and food, etc.

How could I have possibly assaulted the actress in front of such a large assembly of people?
At the slightest hint of any actual violence, a group of men and women would have thrown themselves at me and immobilized me. The actress would have also been defending herself, howling, scratching. And I, vile satyr, would have ended up persecuted, tried and imprisoned.

As a result of these alleged statements, Jodorowsky has been criticised.[98][99] Matt Brown of Screen Anarchywrote that "it's easier to wall off a certain type of criminality behind the buffer of time—sure, Alejandro Jodorowsky is on the record in his book on the making of the film as having raped Mara Lorenzo while making El Topo—though he later denied it—but nowadays he's just that hilarious old kook from Jodorowsky's Dune!"[99] Emmet Asher-Perrin of Tor.com called Jodorowsky "an artist who condones rape as a means to an end for the purpose of creating art. A man who seems to believe that rape is something that women 'need' if they can't accept male sexual power on their own".[98] Sady Doyle of Elle wrote that Jodorowsky "has been teasing the idea of an unsimulated rape scene in his cult classic film El Topo for decades ... though he's elsewhere described the unsimulated sex in that scene as consensual", and went on to state that the quote "has not endangered his status as an avant-garde icon".
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That’s disgusting!!!! I hope it wasn’t a real rape.

Everything is so fake nowadays. Even the news.

At my work place, there were people who believe in the danger of the corona virus therefore they stay at home, others don’t because they believe it’s political. Therefore these people don’t stay home. One of this people got the corona virus and now at home infecting his wife and baby daughter. Now, we are all working from home.
 
Its just gross and disgusting to say such a thing never mind doing it
 
That’s disgusting!!!! I hope it wasn’t a real rape.

Everything is so fake nowadays. Even the news.

At my work place, there were people who believe in the danger of the corona virus therefore they stay at home, others don’t because they believe it’s political. Therefore these people don’t stay home. One of this people got the corona virus and now at home infecting his wife and baby daughter. Now, we are all working from home.

Oh dear
hope you are all ok
stay safe and healthy
 
... Everything is so fake nowadays. Even the news. ...

The film, and it would follow his interviews quoted in the Wiki interviews promoting it, are 50 years old.
So this is not a "nowadays" thing.

Joelly, hope you and your family stay safe and healthy.

I think people who think C19 is fake and just political and refuse to follow WHO/CDC recommended precautions should all be shot in the head with a very large nuclear weapon ... hopefully before they reproduce, further contaminating the human gene pool. :knockout:
Good riddance!
 
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Oh right. Because it's totally common to organize after being raped, plus it's a great way to snap out of your "frigid" ways.
:(I need a vomit emoji.:rolleyes:

Astonishing, isn't it, that BBC would promote this man's film.
 
The film, and it would follow his interviews quoted in the Wiki interviews promoting it, are 50 years old.
So this is not a "nowadays" thing.

Joelly, hope you and your family stay safe and healthy.

I think people who think C19 is fake and just political and refuse to follow WHO/CDC recommended precautions should all be shot in the head with a very large nuclear weapon ... hopefully before they reproduce, further contaminating the human gene pool. :knockout:
Good riddance!

Ohhhh it’s an old movie. His comments are still scary. Thank God it’s not a nowadays thing. Nowadays, someone will throw him in jail and kill him there.

Agree 1000% on your comment in regards of those who don’t believe in corona virus.
 
Astonishing, isn't it, that BBC would promote this man's film.

So disappointed in BBC because of this. I am a fan of any movies or series they release.
 
Damn you autocorrect. Orgasm, not organize.
 
Oh right. Because it's totally common to organize after being raped, plus it's a great way to snap out of your "frigid" ways.
:(I need a vomit emoji.:rolleyes:

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