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Is an AGS 3 Ideal stone good?

ElleElle

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The stone I'm interested in is an AGS 3 Ideal. Is this good? I can't find much about it on the AGS site and I don't really understand the AGS scale.
Thanks!
 
Can you post the AGS report?
 
Dancing Fire|1397791090|3655359 said:
Can you post the AGS report?
All I have from GOG is this. They will not give me the cert for some reason until I purchase the stone.

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That says the AGS estimated score is an AGS 0. Where are you getting AGS 3? Did Jon tell you that's what the AGS cert said?
 
I suspect she means ideal cut, polish and symmetry.
 
MissGotRocks|1397820352|3655442 said:
That says the AGS estimated score is an AGS 0. Where are you getting AGS 3? Did Jon tell you that's what the AGS cert said?
I'm not working with Jon at GOG but I won't name them. After I asked to see the cert and he declined, he said: AGS 3 Ideal and
no fluorescence with no external inclusions.
 
ElleElle|1397829477|3655490 said:
MissGotRocks|1397820352|3655442 said:
That says the AGS estimated score is an AGS 0. Where are you getting AGS 3? Did Jon tell you that's what the AGS cert said?
I'm not working with Jon at GOG but I won't name them. After I asked to see the cert and he declined, he said: AGS 3 Ideal and
no fluorescence with no external inclusions.

The AGS 3 may come from deductions for less than ideal polish and less than ideal symmetry.

If the scan says the proportions qualify for AGS0 cut grade but the seller says AGS 3, I'd presume they bypassed entering polish and symmetry values they weren't trying to measure those.

You should ask for the separate values for cut proportions, polish, and symmetry. As long as the proportion score 0 on the grading report, you'd be fine.
 
Was it possibly "AGS triple-ideal" - which would be AGS 000?
 
John Pollard|1397843922|3655583 said:
Was it possibly "AGS triple-ideal" - which would be AGS 000?

You are possibly a genius, John! :appl:
 
I would not need to see the cert to buy with their information. Do you have other photos besides the one thing you have posted such as a photo of the stone itself?

The cut information is great.
 
John Pollard|1397843922|3655583 said:
Was it possibly "AGS triple-ideal" - which would be AGS 000?

Correct. Triple Ideal meaning it has Ideal polish, symmetry, light performance (and proportion factors as well).

Kind regards,
Rhino
 
ElleElle|1397791565|3655360 said:
Dancing Fire|1397791090|3655359 said:
Can you post the AGS report?
All I have from GOG is this. They will not give me the cert for some reason until I purchase the stone.

You should have received a heckuva lot more data than just an AGS PGS Report if we are serving you Elle (ASET, Dxray, Photomicrographs, H&A imagery, Helium Report, etc.) Just an FYI when we are running AGS PGS on an AGS graded Round Brilliant and the polish and symmetry is not ideal we would note that on this Report with the appropriate grade(s). Everything on the AGS PGS Report is generated via AGS' proprietary ray trace analysis with the exception of polish & symmetry grades which are entered manually. Likewise when we are running AGS PGS on a GIA graded round and the polish & symmetry does not meet GIA's highest grades we'll note that as well.

Kind regards,
Rhino
 
diamondseeker2006|1397847862|3655611 said:
You are possibly a genius, John! :appl:
Woo hoo!

:sun:
 
:lol:
 
Rhino|1397848207|3655613 said:
John Pollard|1397843922|3655583 said:
Was it possibly "AGS triple-ideal" - which would be AGS 000?

Correct. Triple Ideal meaning it has Ideal polish, symmetry, light performance (and proportion factors as well).

Kind regards,
Rhino

This is fabulous news! Thanks for clearing this up for me. Obviously I didn't understand the AGS lingo!
I also did receive a lot of other photos, ASET and Megascope, etc which were extremely helpful.
Thanks again for putting it into layman's terms for me :)
 
ElleElle|1397852766|3655661 said:
Rhino|1397848207|3655613 said:
John Pollard|1397843922|3655583 said:
Was it possibly "AGS triple-ideal" - which would be AGS 000?

Correct. Triple Ideal meaning it has Ideal polish, symmetry, light performance (and proportion factors as well).

Kind regards,
Rhino

This is fabulous news! Thanks for clearing this up for me. Obviously I didn't understand the AGS lingo!
I also did receive a lot of other photos, ASET and Megascope, etc which were extremely helpful.
Thanks again for putting it into layman's terms for me :)

Our pleasure. And yes ... when someone comes to these boards there is plenty of lingo to learn too. :) I've been here for about 14 years and I still see new abbreviations used that leave me scratching my head sometimes too. :bigsmile:
 
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