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Date: 1/15/2009 1:56:50 PM
Author: Gypsy

Hi Judah,
Okay so I thought about it and here are my feelings.

I collected pictures of settings I liked aspects , detaiils and parts of for 4 years. I put together a power point presentation that pulled together all my thoughts. I have pictures of halos, of galleries and wires, of shanks, and a rough roadmap of how I wanted it all put together



And I sent it to a number of jewelers and spoke to them. And… I picked the one who I thought could bring the picture in my mind to fruition the best.



But I didn’t hire a bench jeweler, I hired a designer in Ocean Pearlman. And my my ideas in someone else’s hands would have resulting in a different product.

Ocean is the one who took my ideas and used her skills, vision and talent to produce sketches, and spent hours talking with me about minute details so that she could bring my ring to life as a complete design that worked as a whole. It was a labor of love her and for me. And it is much more than the sum of the parts I insisted on including: it is its own design.

So yes, it was a collaboration. But I got what I wanted out of it, and it sits on my finger making me happy every day.



What I want is the acknowledgement of Ocean’s work, or Ocean’s labor. And so, I think that you should contact her and work out what the ring should be called. That would make me the happiest.



If she wants it to be referred to as “Ocean’s Halo” or something else, I bow to her.



I am very sincere when I say I don’t need or want attribution. But I am also sincere in when I say that as professional courtesy, reaching out to Ocean would be nice.



She can be contacted through Wink at Winkjones.com

Thank you Judah,
I am so happy that Marci got the ring of her dreams.
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(I still need that emotie that bows. Because you deserve one.)
 
Gypsy:

Your response actually made me tear up (just a bit, mind you
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). Your graciousness is awesome.

And no, my IRL name isn''t "Marci"!

As to the name of the ring, The Ocean Halo seems very appropriate... Ocean reflects both the designer and the design, since the wires also have the fluidity of waves. Adding the "halo" leaves room for variations using the same basket, such as a non-halo version.
 
Gypsy, you are an incredibly gracious and classy person!!!
 
Just wanted to say that to me this is what Pricescope is all about!!

Gypsy- your ring is magnificent and a given that someone would replicate it. I agree that the workmanship of your ring is second to none and proves my point that it really is hard for anyone to make an exact replica barring the original designer. I also think it''s wonderful that you can find joy in being imitated and not let it take away one once of happiness you get from your own ring. yay for you and for Marci
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Gypsy!!

Will do..I''m excited and thank you!

Wink, hope you are reading this and please let''s reach out to each other.

"The Ocean Halo" sounds beautiful...but let''s give Ocean the final say.

Wink, if you''d like to conatct Ocean privately and get back to us on this thread, that would be great.
If you want me to conatct Ocean that would be fine too.

Best,

Judah
 
Layla, you are one classy lady!
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Friends,

E-mail sent to Wink, waiting for some direction.
I''ll keep you posted.
 
Date: 1/15/2009 3:40:24 PM
Author: Judah Gutwein
Gypsy!!

Will do..I''m excited and thank you!

Wink, hope you are reading this and please let''s reach out to each other.

''The Ocean Halo'' sounds beautiful...but let''s give Ocean the final say.

Wink, if you''d like to conatct Ocean privately and get back to us on this thread, that would be great.
If you want me to conatct Ocean that would be fine too.

Best,

Judah
Thank you. I have sent an email with this thread to Ocean earlier, I will wait to hear from her to see what she would like to do. It might be better for you to contact me off the board so that I can put you and Ocean together to discuss this privately then report your solution to the group. I believe that Ocean will be more comfortable working out of the spotlight.

I do know that this was the result of several months of back and forth and that Ocean remade the ring from scratch after the first iteration was not just right. Gypsy is not only gifted with her vision, but with her patience for this all to be done completely to her satisfaction.
 
Layla, I remember the entire journey and how hard you worked on every detail. I have to say again that you are one classy lady! Your graciousness is amazing.
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Gypsy--you are lovely, hon.
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The ring is a true beauty!
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I hope Marci posts pics of her ring in SMTR!!!
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Gypsy - Your ring is gorgeous! I''m so glad that you had another reason to post more pics for us. I love it ... it''s just mesmerizing!
and you? ... You are so gracious. An absolute delight of an individual. We would all do well to be a little more like you.

FWIW, I think that Ocean''s Halo is a wonderful name and well deserved tribute to the designer.
 
Thank you VR-- LOL at the 'style of pave' comment. I think you would respond well, too after the initial shock. My brain shuts down when I'm really surprised, so I'm pretty sure the reason I didn't have any negative reaction is because my mind was just a blank. Seriously, it just didn't process for the longest time. Then my first reaction was "HELLO IRONY!" Then a fit of laughter that had John looking at me with concern. I'm so excited we might finally meet at the GTG!!! Bring your goodies. Also, I like "The Ocean Halo"... your wave comment made me smile. As for you tearing up...
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Indecisive. What a fabulous compliment, that my ring was remembered by you. I guess I never really thought about it, in a serious sense. I mean Mia mentioned it at a GTG and I thought that was awesome... but well, there are so many fabulously amazingly incredible rings on here that well, I guess I never really thought... I don't know. It's not a big stone, it's not designer, it's just... what I wanted. Special, yes. But I guess I didn't think it would be special to others.

Arjuana... nope, that apparently is another name for French Cut Pave (which is the term I use if anyone asks, mind you. Can't say Crapiona with a straigh face even now).


Thank you Tuckins! Judah is working on that right now, and I am impressed and grateful that he is.

Snlee, Thank you lovely lady! Hopefully EXTREMELY soon we'll see one another. And thank you very much.

Gecko-- for post of your posts. Thank you, thank you, thank you.

Thank you NEL... what a huge compliment from someone with such lovely taste herself!!!!

Italia, I am proud. As for it being my baby. I love my ring. But my husband and my cats are my babies. Now if anyone cloned them... okay so are we talking STRAIGHT cloning or can I make say.... improvements????
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J/K. Point is, my ring is on my finger, and while I love it... it's an object I purchased that I posted on a public website knowing what that entails. No salt here at all.

Thing, I KNOW! Right? Inquiring minds what to know. Can we post a lurker poll? Lurkers how many of you have a ring that was inspired by one on here that you've never posted???

Hi Wink, as always, my pleasure. You are such an amazing guy, and Ocean is just wonderful. As for my 'patience'.... I think it's OCEAN'S patience that should be lauded, I'm not an easy customer to please, but Ocean and you definitely did please me. Look at my posts to poor Judah, the rings aren't even going to be mine and I'm asking for adjustments to be made!!!!
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Kimberly, Thank you for giggling along with me! I'm in good company! And ditto to your sentiment's about Marci. Health and happiness indeed.

Deb... ((HUGS)). Much hugs.
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Erica and Skippy I definitely am flattered. Extremely so.

Neatfreak... thank you very much, from you and Amber who know me from real life (if GTG's and shopping are considered 'real' life), that means so much.

Hi Deco... I think you are right. Sometimes it's an evolution of tastes and someone gets the ball rolling. I've never had good aim before, but I'm sure glad I do now. And thank you.

Thank you Bee*, I think you are cool and wonderful too!

Thank you Alj, that means a lot coming from you.
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Hi Amber!!! Lots of humor. You should have been there. You would have split a gut at my reaction. Dumbfounded and speechless (which we KNOW doesn't happen-- the speachless part, the dumbfounded I'll cop to, and often!).

Aww Linda. I adore you too. ((BIG HUG)) right back at you. Thank you, my friend.

Thank you Michelle, and right back at you.

MrsSalvo, you are absolutely correct. This IS what PS is about and the workmanship IS fabulous AND, it's not an exact replica. Thank you very much.

Hi Tacori (ahh, I love Tessa's pics, always make me smile)... thank you, and same to you.

Hi Coati--- Thank you very much to the lady with the ring I'd most like to 'imitate' myself.
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Quite the compliment!

Hi Sunny, Me too!!

Sparkalicious. Wow, I'm blushing. I'm not all the great hon, serious... don't believe the PR. If T-Gal is a bad seed, then I'm a bad apple. One spoils the bunch. But thank you very much for the compliments and ((HUGS)).
 
Layla, add me to the list...you are a class act! I applaud your gracious response!!
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Marci, you have great taste and we''d be happy to see your beautiful ring! At least you know it is safe to post!

Judah, that is very kind of you to give credit to Layla and/or Ocean for the design! Your company has a lot of foresight in choosing great rings to reproduce!
 
Hi Gypsy! I can''t belive you came across this ring. I bet you were in total shock but I really admire your approach and your comments about how you feel seeing your ring copied/recreated like that. I definitley don''t have an original design, many people on here have the same look I have so I wouldn''t know how I''d feel but I''m really proud of you. It really is ironic though........ Can''t wait to see your original piece on Saturday!
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Date: 1/15/2009 3:20:48 PM
Author: mrssalvo
Just wanted to say that to me this is what Pricescope is all about!!

Gypsy- your ring is magnificent and a given that someone would replicate it. I agree that the workmanship of your ring is second to none and proves my point that it really is hard for anyone to make an exact replica barring the original designer. I also think it''s wonderful that you can find joy in being imitated and not let it take away one once of happiness you get from your own ring. yay for you and for Marci
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Ditto Mrs! What a nice development.
 
Gypsy~I agree with the others that you are indeed one classy lady! And like mrss said, I think this is what PS is about. Your ring is absolutely stunning and Marci is one lucky lady to have an ering like it! I''m so happy for you both!
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Date: 1/15/2009 7:00:42 PM
Author: Gypsy

Thing, I KNOW! Right? Inquiring minds what to know. Can we post a lurker poll? Lurkers how many of you have a ring that was inspired by one on here that you''ve never posted???

Hahaha-yes! I would LOVE to see the results of a lurker poll! I bet there are TONS of inspired by rings floating around out there...so funny that 2 popped up so closely to each other. I think that just shows that there are probably literally hundreds out there.

Anyways, you are so funny and gracious, and this is definitely what PS is all about!
 
Okay, here is the resolution of the issue involved. Judah had a nice conversation with Ocean this morning and has agreed to post the following on his website to replace the current text on his website in conjunction with the picture of Gypsy''s ring. I did not make the links active in this letter, but on his site they will point to the appropriate places.

Ocean was adamant that she did not want the ring named after her, but she was very appreciative of the offer, so she contacted Gypsy and Gypsy has graciously agreed to let the ring be named after her.

Here is what will be posted:

This new and breathtaking platinum & diamond engagement ring, The Gypsy, was originally designed and created by Ocean Pearlman for a customer of Winfield''s in Boise, Idaho. It is a wonderful example of how collaboration between client and designer can produce cherished results.

Our client, Marci, was inspired by a picture of ''The Gypsy'', which she had seen posted on a popular diamond discussion forum. She contacted us to inquire whether we would be able to replicate this ring for her.


While this replication does not match the original in every detail, we feel we were able to create the beautiful and exquisite engagement ring of her dreams!


This ring is now available to you in your choice of metals.
Center diamond is not included.


I think that will make every one happy and it is a great resolution to what could have gotten mean and nasty. I second the opinions offered that Gypsy is one classy lady!

Wink
 
That''s too funny!
 
"The Gypsy!" I love it!
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Date: 1/16/2009 3:39:02 PM
Author: Wink

Okay, here is the resolution of the issue involved. Judah had a nice conversation with Ocean this morning and has agreed to post the following on his website to replace the current text on his website in conjunction with the picture of Gypsy''s ring. I did not make the links active in this letter, but on his site they will point to the appropriate places.

Ocean was adamant that she did not want the ring named after her, but she was very appreciative of the offer, so she contacted Gypsy and Gypsy has graciously agreed to let the ring be named after her.

Here is what will be posted:

This new and breathtaking platinum & diamond engagement ring, The Gypsy, was originally designed and created by Ocean Pearlman for a customer of Winfield''s in Boise, Idaho. It is a wonderful example of how collaboration between client and designer can produce cherished results.

Our client, Marci, was inspired by a picture of ''The Gypsy'', which she had seen posted on a popular diamond discussion forum. She contacted us to inquire whether we would be able to replicate this ring for her.



While this replication does not match the original in every detail, we feel we were able to create the beautiful and exquisite engagement ring of her dreams!



This ring is now available to you in your choice of metals.
Center diamond is not included.


I think that will make every one happy and it is a great resolution to what could have gotten mean and nasty. I second the opinions offered that Gypsy is one classy lady!

Wink
Awesome! Everyone gets credit!
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What a great resolution to this. I love it!

Gypsy, you''re wonderful as always. You already know I''m a BIG fan of yours.
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Love it. Seriously. Gyps, just one more reason to think you're awesome. (Your graciousness is astounding.)
 
Layla, you are truly a class act! I am so proud of you and can''t wait to meet you and "The Gypsy" tomorrow!

See you soon!

Shannon
 
Aww, that is a wonderful resolution! Congrats on having a ring named for you, Layla!
 
What a wonderful resolution!
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Hi All, will respond more later (have high fever for no freaking good reason, as soon as tylenol kicks in maybe I''ll feel better to be able to write more). Just wanted to thank Ocean for her generosity (she DOES hold copyright)
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, Wink for being Wink
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, and Juddah for doing the right thing
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for all the parties involved.

Yes, it does look like Ocean will be naming her design after me, and that Excel''s ring will be "Inspired by The Gypsy." What do you know? I came out of this with TWO rings referring to me. LOL. Ocean''s "The Gypsy" and Juddah''s "Inspired by"... all this for someone who didn''t want her name on anything. Life is funny. PS is good. This high fever out of no where stinks.


Thank you my friends for your compliments... I truly appreciate them and will respond to all of you when I''m feeling a little better.
 
Sorry your not feeling well Gypsy, drink lots of fluids.
 
High fever with no other symptoms? That''s odd. Hope the Tylenol does its job and no other symptoms pop up.... you have a fun day planned for tomorrow... can''t get sick now!
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