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Oh I love a good sapphire! This thread has me salivating. I guess I am off to google ''Jeff White''........

I''ll keep checking back for pics as your project sounds heavenly.
 
I went. I googled. I passed out.

I am going to be bankrupt.

I can only imagine that this is going to be one stunner of a ring. WOW!
 
Same thing happened to me. Once I saw his stones, NOTHING ever came close....
Date: 5/25/2008 4:58:03 PM
Author: IrishBreakfast
I went. I googled. I passed out.

I am going to be bankrupt.

I can only imagine that this is going to be one stunner of a ring. WOW!
 
LS, I might want the stone if you don''t, so let me know what you decide!
 
Date: 5/25/2008 8:51:29 PM
Author: diamondseeker2006
LS, I might want the stone if you don''t, so let me know what you decide!
SCROUNGER!!!!
 
First Pic.

This is the stone which just arrived from Sri Lanka. It is currently native cut so the colour is pretty true to where we'll end up after Jeff cuts it.

I'm unsure as to whether it's dark enough for me. I sent him NeatFreaks' and DiamondSeeker's photos for comparison. He think's it's closer to DS's cushion than NF's asscher.

So we're still in discussion regarding colour. He is going to take some pictures outdoors tomorrow.....

I am pleased with the size, but am unsure as to the colour. It's hard to tell just from this first photo.

Opinions anyone? Jeff says the stone is stunning, with very evenly spread colouration.

bluesapph2.jpg
 
I LOVE IT, I REALLY DO. But for some reason, with the setting you are going for which in my mind recalls lots of vintage styles, I think I''d like something a little blue-er. Closer to your AV. I don''t know your budget though, and a deeper blue might cost more.

It is absolutely lovely. And I''d buy it if I could. And maybe it''s just when I look from your AV to the pic, and back again, I just see the setting with something a little deeper, like you AV. It''s probably just the comparision. If I saw the stone in the setting IRL, I would love and adore it and think it was amazing. KWIM?
 
It seems to be a nice size. How much do you think he will have to trim when he recuts it? It seems to have some sparkle, but I would not judge the color based on that pic alone. I would hold off for some pics in better lighting.
 
Thank you Gypsy. I think you hit the nail on the head. I think it should be a darker blue......
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But I''m going to wait until he has a few more pics outdoors before I turn it down.
 
Date: 5/28/2008 1:25:18 AM
Author: LtlFirecracker
It seems to be a nice size. How much do you think he will have to trim when he recuts it? It seems to have some sparkle, but I would not judge the color based on that pic alone. I would hold off for some pics in better lighting.
He said at most .5mm in length and width...approximately.

I''m waiting for more pics.

And yet the more I look at it the more I LOVE the colour. I''m trying to think outside of my traditional expectations. Part of the problem lies in that my original e-ring was extremely dark, which was not really to my taste. This takes the colour to the other side of the spectrum, and I may be having difficulty adjusting to that....
 
Date: 5/28/2008 8:27:06 AM
Author: LostSapphire

Date: 5/28/2008 1:25:18 AM
Author: LtlFirecracker
It seems to be a nice size. How much do you think he will have to trim when he recuts it? It seems to have some sparkle, but I would not judge the color based on that pic alone. I would hold off for some pics in better lighting.
He said at most .5mm in length and width...approximately.

I''m waiting for more pics.

And yet the more I look at it the more I LOVE the colour. I''m trying to think outside of my traditional expectations. Part of the problem lies in that my original e-ring was extremely dark, which was not really to my taste. This takes the colour to the other side of the spectrum, and I may be having difficulty adjusting to that....
That may be hard. Keeping an open mind is inportant, but it has to be something you live with. I hope you get to see some more pics today that will give you a better idea of the stone. It seems to me it may have a lot of "life" and this is before recutting. But you have to love the color.
 
Date: 5/28/2008 9:38:26 AM
Author: LtlFirecracker

Date: 5/28/2008 8:27:06 AM
Author: LostSapphire


Date: 5/28/2008 1:25:18 AM
Author: LtlFirecracker
It seems to be a nice size. How much do you think he will have to trim when he recuts it? It seems to have some sparkle, but I would not judge the color based on that pic alone. I would hold off for some pics in better lighting.
He said at most .5mm in length and width...approximately.

I''m waiting for more pics.

And yet the more I look at it the more I LOVE the colour. I''m trying to think outside of my traditional expectations. Part of the problem lies in that my original e-ring was extremely dark, which was not really to my taste. This takes the colour to the other side of the spectrum, and I may be having difficulty adjusting to that....
That may be hard. Keeping an open mind is inportant, but it has to be something you live with. I hope you get to see some more pics today that will give you a better idea of the stone. It seems to me it may have a lot of ''life'' and this is before recutting. But you have to love the color.
Hard yes. But FUN too!!!!
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I am loving the process. So whatever I end up with, the journey will be worth it.
 
Date: 5/28/2008 12:48:39 AM
Author: Gypsy
I LOVE IT, I REALLY DO. But for some reason, with the setting you are going for which in my mind recalls lots of vintage styles, I think I''d like something a little blue-er. Closer to your AV. I don''t know your budget though, and a deeper blue might cost more.

It is absolutely lovely. And I''d buy it if I could. And maybe it''s just when I look from your AV to the pic, and back again, I just see the setting with something a little deeper, like you AV. It''s probably just the comparision. If I saw the stone in the setting IRL, I would love and adore it and think it was amazing. KWIM?
Ditto this statement - it''s an amazing color, but for that setting i would probably prefer a more true, darker blue. however, the color of that stone is incredible on its own! Maybe the outdoor shots will knock your socks off and show a different side of that lovely stone!
 
Truly, I was in the same position with the stone I was considering. I loved everything about it except the visible inclusions. My original request said exellent color, clarity, and cut, so I was surprised that it was not 100% eyeclean.

I sadly returned my stone but I am not sorry. My philosophy is that is is always best to wait for the thing that is exactly what you want rather than settling for less and being sorry. Sometimes our taste and preferences change, and that is fine. But don''t settle unless you are positive it is the right stone for you. (See my tagline below.)
 
Date: 5/28/2008 1:11:51 PM
Author: violet3
Date: 5/28/2008 12:48:39 AM

Author: Gypsy

I LOVE IT, I REALLY DO. But for some reason, with the setting you are going for which in my mind recalls lots of vintage styles, I think I''d like something a little blue-er. Closer to your AV. I don''t know your budget though, and a deeper blue might cost more.


It is absolutely lovely. And I''d buy it if I could. And maybe it''s just when I look from your AV to the pic, and back again, I just see the setting with something a little deeper, like you AV. It''s probably just the comparision. If I saw the stone in the setting IRL, I would love and adore it and think it was amazing. KWIM?

Ditto this statement - it''s an amazing color, but for that setting i would probably prefer a more true, darker blue. however, the color of that stone is incredible on its own! Maybe the outdoor shots will knock your socks off and show a different side of that lovely stone!

I agree too. I''m of course biased because it looks similar to my stone in that picture, and I obviously LOVE the color of mine. But with your setting in mind I kind of envision a darker sapphire...
 
OK my friends. Here are a couple more photos, taken outdoors on an overcast day.

It is stunning. But is it too light??

I''m flip flopping around every time I look at it: yet I have to say that the blue in my avatar is TOO dark for what I''m looking for...I''m just concerned that this one doesn''t have enough saturated ccolour.

Bluesapph3.jpg
 
Another one...

I''m open to any and all opinions: part of me agrees with Gypsy (thank you Gypsy for expressing the intangible) whereas the darker stone more suite the traditional setting....

But then a part of me today is becoming more open to perhaps a modification to the setting, ever so slightly that is.

This stone is incredible. But it is NOT a deep "cornflower".....it IS however, my very favourite colour...

I also need to take into consideration, that if I halo it with 3 pointers and once the gallery is done, it will go darker in the setting a bit anyways, no?

Bluesapph4.jpg
 
And just to be really clear: THIS pic shows a sapphire that is TOO dark for my liking.

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Date: 5/28/2008 8:11:49 PM
Author: LostSapphire
Another one...

I'm open to any and all opinions: part of me agrees with Gypsy (thank you Gypsy for expressing the intangible) whereas the darker stone more suite the traditional setting....

But then a part of me today is becoming more open to perhaps a modification to the setting, ever so slightly that is.

This stone is incredible. But it is NOT a deep 'cornflower'.....it IS however, my very favourite colour...

I also need to take into consideration, that if I halo it with 3 pointers and once the gallery is done, it will go darker in the setting a bit anyways, no?
Sapphires can darken about 10% in the setting, maybe even more depending on the stone and setting (prongs usually less, bezels usually more). However, putting it between closed fingers is supposed to show that effect, so what you are seeing may be what you get.

I was kind of hoping that the light blue is what I just call the undertone that gives it the sparkle, but it seems to not be the case the light color seems to be the dominant color of the stone. You have to ask Jeff how much these photos represent what he sees as sapphires are camera shy.

I think that stone is pretty, but you have to decide how traditional you want the stone and setting to be. Only you can make that decision, as color is really subjective and personal preference. Have you considered having the stone sent to you b/f he cuts it, I know that was done a few weeks ago by another member.
 
Date: 5/28/2008 8:19:23 PM
Author: LtlFirecracker


I think that stone is pretty, but you have to decide how traditional you want the stone and setting to be. Only you can make that decision, as color is really subjective and personal preference. Have you considered having the stone sent to you b/f he cuts it, I know that was done a few weeks ago by another member.
That is kind of where I''m heading. Thank you for your thoughts, LtlFirecracker.
 
Thank you ALL for your opinions. I've now had some supper and a cup of tea. First, I e-mailed jeff to ask him to ship it to me for either approval or rejection.

Then I thought about it some more: to ship it here involves duties/taxes (Canada), and THEN when I want to send it back to Jeff, I have to deal with export and paperwork just to get it back. THEN, it goes to Whiteflash who would have to once again ship it to Canada and I have to deal with the duties, taxes...bla bla bla. my head hurts.

I think I'm trying too hard to make this the one. My very ambivalence is telling me it's not right. It is truly stunning, but not for this purpose.

I asked Jeff to go to this website and tell me where on the spectrum the blue sits. http://crossjewelers.com/sapphire/HowToBuyAsapphire.htm

He said it's between a 1 and a 2. I'm aiming for a 3+ or so..

AAAAGGGGHHHHH
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So I've e-mailed Jeff and told him to keep looking for one which is a bit more saturated.

Part of me is disappointed but then again, it's been missing from my hand for almost 2 years now and whatever replaces my original, it's gonna be on my hand for a LONG TIME so a little bit longer won't make any difference except to ensure I get the right stone.

Still "Lost" but hopeful!
 
As I told you above, I made the same kind of decision. It is SO worth waiting for the right one! I finally got my wedding set just like I want it, I got my watch situation settled, and I really want to wait for the perfect sapphire! I hope you find the perfect one for your ring soon!
 
Thank you DS.

I''ve just told my husband that this one wasn''t ''the one''. He agrees: as he said 22 years ago to me at the jewellry store as I was trying to decide: "you better get it right because I''m not getting you another one"...

(duh, then I go and lose it!)

It will be on my hand for a long time...so I guess I''m back in the Queue at Jeff''s.
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I think you made a good, thought out decision (I didn''t realize you live in Canada). I think comparing the stone with a scale you understood was really a smart thing to do and saved you time and money. It is really hard when you get excited about something and it is not what you expected. It seems like a long wait now, but it is better to wait a few months now than to be looking at your ring 5 years later and say to yourself "why didn''t I wait just a little longer?" Especially with this place where you always see something new
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Date: 5/28/2008 9:48:29 PM
Author: LostSapphire
Thank you DS.

I''ve just told my husband that this one wasn''t ''the one''. He agrees: as he said 22 years ago to me at the jewellry store as I was trying to decide: ''you better get it right because I''m not getting you another one''...

(duh, then I go and lose it!)

It will be on my hand for a long time...so I guess I''m back in the Queue at Jeff''s.
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I know how you feel. I have come to realize that a great sapphire is MUCH harder to come by than a great diamond!
 
Thank you all for your input.

When I got up this morning I still felt like I'd made the right decision (GOOD sign!).

An e-mail from Jeff confirmed it. He says he gets concerned when people try to "talk themselves into growing to love something". But then they just as quickly grow "out of love" with the stone if it's the wrong one.

We'll keep at it till we get it right. I guess I'm stuck with the 3-stone, 3ctw door knocker on my e-ring finger for now...oh well
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life is tough.
 
I agree. My personal preference is for straight up number 3 in color for your setting style, as I like a little lightness, but also saturation.

I love NF''s stone and would certainly buy a sapphire that color, but I would set it differently. Most likely in a 3 stone like she did.
 
Ah, yes, the hunt continues.

It''s fun though!
 
LS, I know your husband said he didn''t like the baguettes, but I was just wondering if you had seen this ring on Fay Cullen. It''s different from the one in your avatar, but it reminded me of it nonetheless. I just thought this was a beautiful ring and might offer more inspiration or ideas for yours (or it could cement the fact that you don''t want baguettes). Either way, just wanted to share...

http://www.faycullen.com/rings/800/e529r4sd.html
 
Date: 5/29/2008 4:50:48 PM
Author: BriBee
LS, I know your husband said he didn''t like the baguettes, but I was just wondering if you had seen this ring on Fay Cullen. It''s different from the one in your avatar, but it reminded me of it nonetheless. I just thought this was a beautiful ring and might offer more inspiration or ideas for yours (or it could cement the fact that you don''t want baguettes). Either way, just wanted to share...

http://www.faycullen.com/rings/800/e529r4sd.html
Thank you BriBee: that is a beautiful ring TOO!!

I''m surfing on that site to see what else may tickle my fancy: the problem is my new ring needs to be fairly close to the original (I can get away with a few things but not substantial revisions like shape....). That being said, the diamonds will be much larger and whiter, the setting will be of higher quality, and the sapphire, of course, will be spectacular. The original sapphire was one of those dark navy australian stones that were very popular in the 70s. Not my personal favourite.

I don''t know if I can even get away with the baguettes on the oval...in fact, after looking at pics of that ring (my avatar is a bit stretched so I can''t use that as a good reference), I may go back to the plain halo.

But in the meantime this sure is fun!
 
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