Khalil Mahmoud

[missy]

14,500 Palestinian children killed, 25,000 injured. So far.
Palestine has the highest number of child amputees per capita in the world,
unprecedented in modern war.

I dont know if you saw this. Not a surprise to me. Why would we trust a terrorist organizations self reporting death tolls? I wonder why they are coming clean now.

"Hamas quietly removed thousands of Palestinians it had previously alleged as killed during the war.
Hamas admits 72% of deaths are combat aged men and the civilian death toll previously reported by them is greatly reduced "

 

[JustLookin54345]

I dont know if you saw this. Not a surprise to me. Why would we trust a terrorist organizations self reporting death tolls? I wonder why they are coming clean now.

"Hamas quietly removed thousands of Palestinians it had previously alleged as killed during the war.
Hamas admits 72% of deaths are combat aged men and the civilian death toll previously reported by them is greatly reduced "

The Lancet, a publication you quoted and believed many times during COVID, has debunked these claims the last time the Zionist media tried to publish such a statement. https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(23)02713-7/fulltext

The only groups reporting these numbers are news outlets that are Z publications and to me, that is propaganda. Other news outlets would be reporting them if it was real. There is no doubt that thousands and thousands of children have been killed, when is enough enough here? It seems like we are constantly trying to defend the massive daily killings of children, journalists, medics. It's too much.

I am Jewish too, and I think it's important we get news from varied sources so we can keep the focus on the very real problem of anti-semitism. Which I believe is different than anti-Zionism. Right now, I am more scared of the religious right in the US than Hamas. They pretend to be friends of the Jews when it is convenient but they ultimately want us gone too. I do not want to get in a fight about this as I know you have strong viewpoints but hope you would consider why you believe other news sources for COVID numbers which were also highly politicized but not for this.

 

[missy]

The Lancet, a publication you quoted and believed many times during COVID, has debunked these claims the last time the Zionist media tried to publish such a statement. https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(23)02713-7/fulltext

The only groups reporting these numbers are news outlets that are Z publications and to me, that is propaganda. Other news outlets would be reporting them if it was real. There is no doubt that thousands and thousands of children have been killed, when is enough enough here? It seems like we are constantly trying to defend the massive daily killings of children, journalists, medics. It's too much.

I am Jewish too, and I think it's important we get news from varied sources so we can keep the focus on the very real problem of anti-semitism. Which I believe is different than anti-Zionism. Right now, I am more scared of the religious right in the US than Hamas. They pretend to be friends of the Jews when it is convenient but they ultimately want us gone too. I do not want to get in a fight about this as I know you have strong viewpoints but hope you would consider why you believe other news sources for COVID numbers which were also highly politicized but not for this.

Both extremes of the right and left parties hate the Jews. Nothing new there
Agree about varied news sources. One can’t blindly follow any political narrative
Stats above are no surprise as Israel doesn’t target civilians unlike Hamas


You can find the above stats in different publications

Hamas ‘quietly drops’ thousands of deaths from casualty figures

Claims that 70 per cent of the fatalities are women and children are complete nonsense, says report

www.telegraph.co.uk

 

[missy]

War has consequences. Would you have had the USA troops withdraw during ww2 because of civilian casualties? This war is no different. With the exception that Israel goes out of their way to avoid purposefully killing civilians and Hamas goes out of their way to target civilians

 

[JustLookin54345]

Both extremes of the right and left parties hate the Jews. Nothing new there
Agree about varied news sources. One can’t blindly follow any political narrative
Stats above are no surprise as Israel doesn’t target civilians unlike Hamas


You can find the above stats in different publications

Hamas ‘quietly drops’ thousands of deaths from casualty figures

Claims that 70 per cent of the fatalities are women and children are complete nonsense, says report

www.telegraph.co.uk

The UN and other human rights groups said they have broken a lot of rules in war and are targeting civilians and institutions. I would ask you to think about the idea that two realities are possible at the same time. That they pushed back against H originally for a good reason and that now it has gone too far. So many kids and innocent people who are just trying to live their lives under terrorist leadership are dying. It is no longer a reasonable response to an attack.

https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2024/10/un-commission-finds-war-crimes-and-crimes-against-humanity-israeli-attacks

The Telegraph is widely known to be pro-Zionist. I will believe it when many of the human rights or medical organizations without skin in the game publish it.

 

[missy]

The UN is as corrupt as can be

“If one removes the questionable data from the ministry’s numbers, it becomes clearer that Israel has made considerable efforts to minimize the war’s effect on civilians, while Hamas continues to use hospitals as fortresses”

Israel has every right to defend her people. Yes there are unintended casualties in war I agree. Unavoidable. Tragic. But again this can all end if Hamas releases the hostages and surrenders. Fact

 

[JustLookin54345]

The UN is as corrupt as can be

“If one removes the questionable data from the ministry’s numbers, it becomes clearer that Israel has made considerable efforts to minimize the war’s effect on civilians, while Hamas continues to use hospitals as fortresses”

Your post makes it sound like that quote is from a UN report, but it's from an opinion columnist who works at a neoconservative think tank that is pro-I. That's not an unbiased source either.

What sources can we trust if you do not trust the Lancet and the UN?

 

[missy]

Your post makes it sound like that quote is from a UN report, but it's from an opinion columnist who works at a neoconservative think tank that is pro-I. That's not an unbiased source either.

What sources can we trust if you do not trust the Lancet and the UN?

I would never quote the UN. Do you not agree they’re corrupt?

Wall Street journal

Please answer my questions. Do you agree this war would be over if Hamas released the hostages and surrendered?

I repeat. Israel has every right to defend herself and her people. And for anyone who truly wants an end to the war (I hope we all do) demand Hamas release the hostages and surrender. If that had been done by all initially this war would have been over long ago

 

[JustLookin54345]

I would never quote the UN. Do you not agree they’re corrupt?

Wall Street journal

Please answer my questions. Do you agree this war would be over if Hamas released the hostages and surrendered?

I repeat. Israel has every right to defend herself and her people. And for anyone who truly wants an end to the war (I hope we all do) demand Hamas release the hostages and surrender. If that had been done by all initially this war would have been over long ago

I don't think the UN is corrupt. It is the place where most countries of the world place their trust in diplomacy.

The WSJ published that piece you quoted, but it is an opinion piece from a neoconservative pro-I think tank. It is not fact.

This war is almost a hundred years old, so I do not think a hostage release will fix it. I wish it was that simple. There will always be one more thing that provokes war, and each side is responsible for some of the provocation. I do not think anything is that simplistic.

 

[missy]

I don't think the UN is corrupt. It is the place where most countries of the world place their trust in diplomacy.

The WSJ published that piece you quoted, but it is an opinion piece from a neoconservative pro-I think tank. It is not fact.

This war is almost a hundred years old, so I do not think a hostage release will fix it. I wish it was that simple. There will always be one more thing that provokes war, and each side is responsible for some of the provocation. I do not think anything is that simplistic.

This specific war. One day at a time. It’s all any of us can do. One. Day. At. A. Time. Release the hostages and surrender. That will stop the current casualties. However you do know Hamas is killing their own? Anyone who protests against them


Others here have used Wikipedia so here you go

Criticism of the United Nations - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org