Khalil Mahmoud

[missy]

14,500 Palestinian children killed, 25,000 injured. So far.
Palestine has the highest number of child amputees per capita in the world,
unprecedented in modern war.

I dont know if you saw this. Not a surprise to me. Why would we trust a terrorist organizations self reporting death tolls? I wonder why they are coming clean now.

"Hamas quietly removed thousands of Palestinians it had previously alleged as killed during the war.
Hamas admits 72% of deaths are combat aged men and the civilian death toll previously reported by them is greatly reduced "

 

[JustLookin54345]

I dont know if you saw this. Not a surprise to me. Why would we trust a terrorist organizations self reporting death tolls? I wonder why they are coming clean now.

"Hamas quietly removed thousands of Palestinians it had previously alleged as killed during the war.
Hamas admits 72% of deaths are combat aged men and the civilian death toll previously reported by them is greatly reduced "

The Lancet, a publication you quoted and believed many times during COVID, has debunked these claims the last time the Zionist media tried to publish such a statement. https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(23)02713-7/fulltext

The only groups reporting these numbers are news outlets that are Z publications and to me, that is propaganda. Other news outlets would be reporting them if it was real. There is no doubt that thousands and thousands of children have been killed, when is enough enough here? It seems like we are constantly trying to defend the massive daily killings of children, journalists, medics. It's too much.

I am Jewish too, and I think it's important we get news from varied sources so we can keep the focus on the very real problem of anti-semitism. Which I believe is different than anti-Zionism. Right now, I am more scared of the religious right in the US than Hamas. They pretend to be friends of the Jews when it is convenient but they ultimately want us gone too. I do not want to get in a fight about this as I know you have strong viewpoints but hope you would consider why you believe other news sources for COVID numbers which were also highly politicized but not for this.

 

[missy]

The Lancet, a publication you quoted and believed many times during COVID, has debunked these claims the last time the Zionist media tried to publish such a statement. https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(23)02713-7/fulltext

The only groups reporting these numbers are news outlets that are Z publications and to me, that is propaganda. Other news outlets would be reporting them if it was real. There is no doubt that thousands and thousands of children have been killed, when is enough enough here? It seems like we are constantly trying to defend the massive daily killings of children, journalists, medics. It's too much.

I am Jewish too, and I think it's important we get news from varied sources so we can keep the focus on the very real problem of anti-semitism. Which I believe is different than anti-Zionism. Right now, I am more scared of the religious right in the US than Hamas. They pretend to be friends of the Jews when it is convenient but they ultimately want us gone too. I do not want to get in a fight about this as I know you have strong viewpoints but hope you would consider why you believe other news sources for COVID numbers which were also highly politicized but not for this.

Both extremes of the right and left parties hate the Jews. Nothing new there
Agree about varied news sources. One can’t blindly follow any political narrative
Stats above are no surprise as Israel doesn’t target civilians unlike Hamas


You can find the above stats in different publications

Hamas ‘quietly drops’ thousands of deaths from casualty figures

Claims that 70 per cent of the fatalities are women and children are complete nonsense, says report

www.telegraph.co.uk

 

[missy]

War has consequences. Would you have had the USA troops withdraw during ww2 because of civilian casualties? This war is no different. With the exception that Israel goes out of their way to avoid purposefully killing civilians and Hamas goes out of their way to target civilians

 

[JustLookin54345]

Both extremes of the right and left parties hate the Jews. Nothing new there
Agree about varied news sources. One can’t blindly follow any political narrative
Stats above are no surprise as Israel doesn’t target civilians unlike Hamas


You can find the above stats in different publications

Hamas ‘quietly drops’ thousands of deaths from casualty figures

Claims that 70 per cent of the fatalities are women and children are complete nonsense, says report

www.telegraph.co.uk

The UN and other human rights groups said they have broken a lot of rules in war and are targeting civilians and institutions. I would ask you to think about the idea that two realities are possible at the same time. That they pushed back against H originally for a good reason and that now it has gone too far. So many kids and innocent people who are just trying to live their lives under terrorist leadership are dying. It is no longer a reasonable response to an attack.

https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2024/10/un-commission-finds-war-crimes-and-crimes-against-humanity-israeli-attacks

The Telegraph is widely known to be pro-Zionist. I will believe it when many of the human rights or medical organizations without skin in the game publish it.

 

[missy]

The UN is as corrupt as can be

“If one removes the questionable data from the ministry’s numbers, it becomes clearer that Israel has made considerable efforts to minimize the war’s effect on civilians, while Hamas continues to use hospitals as fortresses”

Israel has every right to defend her people. Yes there are unintended casualties in war I agree. Unavoidable. Tragic. But again this can all end if Hamas releases the hostages and surrenders. Fact

 

[JustLookin54345]

The UN is as corrupt as can be

“If one removes the questionable data from the ministry’s numbers, it becomes clearer that Israel has made considerable efforts to minimize the war’s effect on civilians, while Hamas continues to use hospitals as fortresses”

Your post makes it sound like that quote is from a UN report, but it's from an opinion columnist who works at a neoconservative think tank that is pro-I. That's not an unbiased source either.

What sources can we trust if you do not trust the Lancet and the UN?

 

[missy]

Your post makes it sound like that quote is from a UN report, but it's from an opinion columnist who works at a neoconservative think tank that is pro-I. That's not an unbiased source either.

What sources can we trust if you do not trust the Lancet and the UN?

I would never quote the UN. Do you not agree they’re corrupt?

Wall Street journal

Please answer my questions. Do you agree this war would be over if Hamas released the hostages and surrendered?

I repeat. Israel has every right to defend herself and her people. And for anyone who truly wants an end to the war (I hope we all do) demand Hamas release the hostages and surrender. If that had been done by all initially this war would have been over long ago

 

[JustLookin54345]

I would never quote the UN. Do you not agree they’re corrupt?

Wall Street journal

Please answer my questions. Do you agree this war would be over if Hamas released the hostages and surrendered?

I repeat. Israel has every right to defend herself and her people. And for anyone who truly wants an end to the war (I hope we all do) demand Hamas release the hostages and surrender. If that had been done by all initially this war would have been over long ago

I don't think the UN is corrupt. It is the place where most countries of the world place their trust in diplomacy.

The WSJ published that piece you quoted, but it is an opinion piece from a neoconservative pro-I think tank. It is not fact.

This war is almost a hundred years old, so I do not think a hostage release will fix it. I wish it was that simple. There will always be one more thing that provokes war, and each side is responsible for some of the provocation. I do not think anything is that simplistic.

 

[missy]

I don't think the UN is corrupt. It is the place where most countries of the world place their trust in diplomacy.

The WSJ published that piece you quoted, but it is an opinion piece from a neoconservative pro-I think tank. It is not fact.

This war is almost a hundred years old, so I do not think a hostage release will fix it. I wish it was that simple. There will always be one more thing that provokes war, and each side is responsible for some of the provocation. I do not think anything is that simplistic.

This specific war. One day at a time. It’s all any of us can do. One. Day. At. A. Time. Release the hostages and surrender. That will stop the current casualties. However you do know Hamas is killing their own? Anyone who protests against them


Others here have used Wikipedia so here you go

Criticism of the United Nations - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[missy]

Mahmoud’s case moved back to New Jersey

https://www.cnn.com/2025/04/01/us/mahmoud-khalil-columbia-student-louisiana/index.html

Due process in motion

 

[telephone89]

Is it common to move "prisoners" around so much? Seems odd. That article mentions they are venue shopping, not sure that is legal either.

Also, that article talks about another student who was illegally arrested, who I'd not heard about, Rümeysa Öztürk.

"ICE agents arrested a graduate student at Tufts University due to her alleged support for Hamas. Federal officials have not provided any evidence of this. Administrators say that she did not violate any school policies and called for her release."

"A Fulbright Scholar, Öztürk is in good academic and administrative standing at Tufts, according to school officials. She was in the US on an F-1 student visa, which has since been revoked. Öztürk has not been accused of any crime. "

There they go again, arresting whoever they feel like with no charges. They'll make them up later. Terrifying.

Tufts officials call for ICE to release grad student as federal hearing nears

Tufts University leaders said that they have no information that supports the revocation of Rümeysa Öztürk's visa or her detainment in an ICE facility in Louisiana.

www.boston.com

 

[Lookinagain]

"ICE agents arrested a graduate student at Tufts University due to her alleged support for Hamas. Federal officials have not provided any evidence of this. Administrators say that she did not violate any school policies and called for her release."

I believe her case is being heard right now in Boston.

 

[Mreader]

Is it common to move "prisoners" around so much? Seems odd. That article mentions they are venue shopping, not sure that is legal either.

Also, that article talks about another student who was illegally arrested, who I'd not heard about, Rümeysa Öztürk.

"ICE agents arrested a graduate student at Tufts University due to her alleged support for Hamas. Federal officials have not provided any evidence of this. Administrators say that she did not violate any school policies and called for her release."

"A Fulbright Scholar, Öztürk is in good academic and administrative standing at Tufts, according to school officials. She was in the US on an F-1 student visa, which has since been revoked. Öztürk has not been accused of any crime. "

There they go again, arresting whoever they feel like with no charges. They'll make them up later. Terrifying.

Tufts officials call for ICE to release grad student as federal hearing nears

Tufts University leaders said that they have no information that supports the revocation of Rümeysa Öztürk's visa or her detainment in an ICE facility in Louisiana.

www.boston.com

I brought that student up earlier in the thread. You should look at the video. It’s horrific.

 

[telephone89]

I brought that student up earlier in the thread. You should look at the video. It’s horrific.

Ugh I just saw it. Why would anyone even think they're police? A group of masked men surround a woman and start putting their hands on her, ushering her to an unmarked vehicle; horrific. And even bystanders calling out the sh**. It looks like a kidnapping!

 

[Lookinagain]

Ugh I just saw it. Why would anyone even think they're police? A group of masked men surround a woman and start putting their hands on her, ushering her to an unmarked vehicle; horrific. And even bystanders calling out the sh**. It looks like a kidnapping!

They actually told her they were the police. But who would believe that with what they were wearing, and the masks. I gather the judge today said she's take her attorney's request that she be brought back to MA, under advisement.

I do think that these people are being shuttled to Louisiana purposefully as it is expected that the government will have more sympathetic judges there. Yes, forum shopping. But that is common practice on both sides of any legal issue when it can be done. However, apparently there was a claim that she was sent to LA because there was no room in New England, but that statement has been refuted.

 

[Brigid]

The current US administration’s plan and policies want people to think and believe the UN is corrupt along with all the other allied created initiatives and proposals as it serves to distract and disrupt.
If my post is deemed inappropriate, happy for it to be removed by Ella otherwise it feels good to say it out loud!

 

[missy]

The current US administration’s plan and policies want people to think and believe the UN is corrupt along with all the other allied created initiatives and proposals as it serves to distract and disrupt.

@Brigid The UN has been corrupt for a very long time. And it has nothing to do with the current administration

As a reminder here is the UN’s mission, This is according to Article 1 of the Charter of the UN:

To maintain international peace and security, and to that end: to take effective collective measures for the prevention and removal of threats to the peace, and for the suppression of acts of aggression or other breaches of the peace and to bring about by peaceful means, and in conformity with the principles of justice and international law, adjustment or settlement of international disputes or situations which might lead to a breach of the peace.

The UN has a responsibility to protect civilians including all those from any country killed by Hamas terrorists. What about the civilians in Ukraine, Syria, Yemen, Sudan, Myanmar, and other places with ongoing war?

A documentary on those on the inside of the UN who have chosen to call out corruption, harassment, rape, and other illicit acts details several examples

BBC Two - The Whistleblowers: Inside the UN

What happens when the UN is itself faced with allegations and wrongdoing?

www.bbc.co.uk

The documentary includes former U.N. employees who were victims and reporters of sexual harassment and assault. “Sexual abuse, exploitation and harassment in the U.N. happens in headquarters, it happens Monday to Friday,” said former Joint United Nations Programme on HIV/AIDS senior advisor Martina Brostrom.

In 2015, Anders Kompass was suspended from his U.N. position after giving French authorities an internal U.N. report on French peacekeepers’ sexual abuse of children in the Central African Republic. The Guardian, “details the rape and sodomy of starving and homeless young boys by French peacekeeping troops who were supposed to be protecting them"

The U.N. goes to extreme to silence their employees. The fact is there is rampant corruption within the UN and this is nothing new. Instead of promoting human rights and social progress it does quite the opposite.

Peter Gallo (who was an investigator at the U.N.’s New York headquarters for years) "the organization is riddled with corruption from bottom to top.”

Just a couple more examples.

In 2010, there was a major cholera outbreak in Haiti following an earthquake. This outbreak was due to a UN peacekeeping base on the Artibonite River. Initially, the UN refused to investigate the outbreak within their compound. Because they knew. And their purposeful delay caused many more infections downstream from the compound. Eventually, the US CDC got involved and used DNA analysis to get to the origins of the outbreak. It was traced back to the UN peacekeeping base. The UN knew that their base was the source of infection but resorted to stalling tactics and in doing so many more people died. Way to go UN but you didn't care because your goals are not to protect the people rather to protect yourselves and be as corrupt as possible.

Also because of the UN the cause of Covid-19 may never be known. Due to a very slow response from the World Health Organisation (WHO). Another corrupt UN agency. I won't go into that now but yeah you can in part blame the UN for this too

And the most recent example of course.
This past January the United Nations Relief and Works Agency fired employees who took part in Hamas’ Oct. 7, 2023 terror attack. Unfortunately this came as no surprise that U.N. employees participated in the worst massacre of Jews since the Holocaust.
This is not a surprise to anyone who understands the fabric of the UN...so many years of institutional decay and corruption going all the way up the U.N. hierarchy. If a UN employee speaks out about wrong doing within the UN they are punished and fired.

The UN is morally bankrupt. FACT. Not dedicated to peace rather an organization filled with corruption and unethical behavior.

 

[missy]

Back to Mahmoud.

The families of the hostages kidnapped in October of 23 by Hamas are now suing Mahmoud Khalil and several student groups for allegedly “aiding and abetting Hamas’ continuing acts of international terrorism.”

The lawsuit states “Defendants in this case are Hamas’ propaganda arm in NYC and on the Columbia University campus”

"“Their self-described acts in furtherance of their goals to assist Hamas have included terrorizing and assaulting jewish students. Unlawfully taking over and damaging public and university property on Columbia’s campus, and
physically assaulting Columbia University employees,” the families added."

Some hostages who were rescued also joined the families of the hostages in this lawsuit

The lawsuit alleges that Hamas sent a message abroad for it’s supporters to “join the battle in any way they can.”
The lawsuit names Khalil, Kiswani, Alwan and Jones of doing just that and arranging anti-Israel violent rallies at Columbia University.
The lawsuit alleges they spread chaos and violence across NYC and America
The lawsuit also alleges some of the defendants had prior knowledge of the Oct. 7 terrorist attack based on a statement released hours before the October 7th massacre
He is accused of being a leader of Columbia University Apartheid Divest


Legal experts say green card holders can be deported on national security grounds,
He had the privilege to be here and study at our (USA) university but instead of respecting that privilege he went ahead and decided to support and demonstrate for pro-terrorist organizations that have killed Americans.

I don't care what anyone here thinks. Let due process happen. But in my opinion he has no right to be here anymore. This is more than just free speech. Let the truth come out though I would not be suprised if justice is not served

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