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My asscher Part II

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Hm... I don't think I can agree with 'cast =perfect´/ 'handmade = sloppy'. Perhaps the casting can be made symmetrical and what not, but delicate shapes are difficult if not impossible: if the hole piece is one chunk (i.e. a continuous volume) than casting is great. I am not sure if the jewelry designs which actually benefit from this sort of treatment prevail.

Perhaps it is harder to get good hand work (the sort of Art of Platinum) than well finished castings. It is definitely more difficult to learn who knows how many ways to work precious metal down to visual 'perfection' than to draw CAD and then let a computer turn your 3D drawing into a wax shape (think of some 3D equivalent of printing) ready for casting by yet another machine.

After all, it was technology that killed the skill to begin with
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true enough, each new techonology also has the potential to yeild new looks and designs that would have otherwise been unthinkable. Perhaps the billowy shapes of MWM jewelry would not have been there and Mark woul have been a great artist with a very different work. But examples are sort of few and the good looks there is still down to one guy's imagination and skill, not the technology that he can share (and probably at a higher cost) with anyone down the street.

This was a longer and angrier post. But there is another thread opened in the same time that does it better: THIS ONE

Of course, this is just a personal thing. Another perspective, if you wish. I would never deny that technological sophistication is a good thing overall, that it opens potential and what not. However, one potential technology has is to make cutting corners easier and for better or worse that effect comes first
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If you can avoid it, good for you - such 'free riding' is difficult though
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ana, I agree with you that cast doesn't always equal perfect and obviously from the handmade examples of leon and Mark as well as my own Quest ring handmade can be perfect. In general though I do believe there is more room for sloppy details or mistakes when the benchman may not be quite as skilled as the ones mentioned. also, i know the guys at quest handmake the delicate pieces for the exact reasons you mentioned.
 
Date: 9/5/2005 5:20:48 PM
Author: mrssalvo

ana, I agree with you that cast doesn''t always equal perfect...

i know the guys at quest handmake the delicate pieces for the exact reasons you mentioned.
I was thinking of your ring when writing the prvious post (and mentioned PM in the meantime too). If Quest doeproduce handmade work on the side and can combine the best of the two... good for them! I didn''t know if your ring was ''business as usual'' or an exception to their practice.
 
Thanks Ana and mrssalvo. I am hoping that Quest can achieve the best of both and will talk to Pete tomorrow. I do want the best possible outcome for this ring.
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Date: 9/1/2005 8:21:09 PM
Author: mrssalvo
Quest didn''t even do cads for my ring. every time they tried and then cast it never came out right so they ended up doing the whole thing by hand. i never got to see a cad, wax, nothing...i had to rely on blind faith and lots of supportive emails from nan and diamondlil
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I don''t think they did brightspots cad in one piece because parts of here ring were handmade too. either way, you can be 100% confident that your ring will come out exactly like you want it to or they will redo it. You have nothing to worry about, it''s going to be absolutely fabulous
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Hey--sorry for chiming in so late. Mrssalvo was right about my ring--Quest did CADs of my halo, bezel & the little marquise-shaped pieces on the shoulder of my ring, but the rest (shank, milligraining, etc.) was hand made. So after I saw the CADs, I didn''t see any more images of my ring until my FI proposed. (my choice) I too had to go on blind faith & lots of supportive PMs from you, mrssalvo & diamondlil & valeria. The wait was a little unnerving, but I couldn''t be more pleased w/ how it turned out. Your ring will be just amazing!!
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Any updates from Pete?
 
No I was too busy with my kids going back to school today that I didn''t have a chance to call him. Hopefully I can call him tomorrow.
 
I decided to wait for the cads on Friday and go from there. This is a RHR after all and don''t want to spend too much. So let''s see what the cads look like and go from there.
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tomorrow is cad day, then? yay!!
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Yes tomorrow is cad day, finally!!!
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Whoo Hoo to CAD day!
 
Yahooo!!
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Okay, so what time?
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Hopefully in the morning. I have to take grandma out in the afternoon. She wants to go to bank, maybe she will slip me a few sheckles!!!!
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Okay, Lisa, it''s morning. Where are they? We can''t wait. Don''t make us. Okay, PSers chant, POST PICS, POST PICS, POST PICS.
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I just can''t wait to see the wax. Can you tell?

Shay
 
i don't think they open until 10:00
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but i'm so excited
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Foot tapping . . . foot tapping . . .
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Haha, OK Let me call Pete.
 
Hurry!
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(I wonder if this poor guy has a CLUE as to the collective pressure he's under to produce in a timely way!!
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There are LEGIONS of us out here waiting to see those CADs!!!
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Oh geez, so I call Pete and am told that he was on the phone. The woman asks if there is anything she can help me with, so I say yes, I would like to get the cads today. The woman then says oh I am doing those for you but don't have an email adress. I said that Pete has it, but gave it to her anyway. She said I should get something by the end of the day. I give up, anybody want an asscher????

ETA: I got the distinct impression that absolutely no work had been done on this at all, could be wrong but that's the impression I got on the phone.
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Kaleigh, I hope this works out for you. But if these new people are also dragging their feet, would you consider taking your stone to a B&M store''s "restyling event"? Bailey''s has them 2 or 3 times a year- a craftsman brings in a lot of settings. You''ll choose your setting and they set your stone while you watch.
 
Sorry Lisa, custom work does seem to be frustrating.

Keep the faith, your asscher is beautiful and I''m sure it will end up being well worth the wait!
 
Oh Lisa I am sorry that you are still experiencing frustration getting something done on your ring! It seems like it is so hard to get prompt service and communication these days from anyone. We hear all these good things about Quest though so hopefully they will still come through for you and you will a fabulous cad sometime today.
 
Date: 9/9/2005 10:32:35 AM
Author: kaleigh
Oh geez, so I call Pete and am told that he was on the phone. The woman asks if there is anything she can help me with, so I say yes, I would like to get the cads today. The woman then says oh I am doing those for you but don''t have an email adress. I said that Pete has it, but gave it to her anyway. She said I should get something by the end of the day. I give up, anybody want an asscher????


ETA: I got the distinct impression that absolutely no work had been done on this at all, could be wrong but that''s the impression I got on the phone.
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That sux.
scratch one company off the recomended list.
 
Let''s wait till the end of the day...if there really are no CADs, then unleash the tigers. But maybe there are CADs done. I find the person who answers the phone usually knows NOTHING about the custom stuff. That was the case with my jeweler. Hang in there - the custom thing is such a PAIN. And don''t I know it...it almost makes me want to buy stock settings from here on out!
 
Yes I will wait until the end of the day. I have to go out this afternoon and should be home by 3:00 or so. I checked my email and nothing yet.
 
 
Kaleigh, I''m hoping this doesn''t turn into a royal pain in the asscher for you.

Seriously, I''m hoping you get what you love, very soon.
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OK I''m back, tick tock!!!!!
 
I''m bummed that the CADs are not finished yet, but I would not strike them out so soon. Quest will come through -- I have faith. Of course, I am a little biased.
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In the event that things don''t work out and your assher is most definitely cursed, I''d be happy to take it off your hands.
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