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simplydivine14

simplydivine14

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My boyfriend and I have been shopping around for a loose diamond. Neither one of use knows very much about what we should be looking for and unfortunately I found this site after we made our purchase. We ordered it from Blue Nile (cost us a little over $2500) and after we ordered it I started googling and found this site. Now I'm starting to think it wasn't a great buy after all, here are the specs hopefully I'm doing this right.

Round Brilliant

Color- J
Clarity- VS2
Carat- .82
Cut- Excellent
Polish- Excellent
Symmetry- Excellent
Measurements- 6.10-6.14-3.62
Fluorescence- Faint
Girdle - Medium-Slightly thick
Table- 60%
Depth- 59.2%
Pavilion- 41.0
Crown- 32.0
Inclusions- Twinning Wisp, Feather (I only have a dossier, so I don't have a plot of where they are).

It scored a 1.5 on the HCA.

Was this diamond worth it or should we send it back and keep looking? I'd appreciate any advice at all. (The picture in my profile is the diamond)

*edit-to include depth*
 
anyone???
 
simplydivine14|1398553498|3660864 said:
My boyfriend and I have been shopping around for a loose diamond. Neither one of use knows very much about what we should be looking for and unfortunately I found this site after we made our purchase. We ordered it from Blue Nile (cost us a little over $2500) and after we ordered it I started googling and found this site. Now I'm starting to think it wasn't a great buy after all, here are the specs hopefully I'm doing this right.

Round Brilliant

Color- J Usually good value, depends if you like it though.
Clarity- VS2 My preference is VS1-SI1 so this seems fine too.
Carat- .82
Cut- Excellent This is a definite plus, a lower cut grade can result in all sorts of problems e.g. extremely thin girdle = durability risk which means it cannot make an excellent cut grade (had this issue myself).
Polish- Excellent
Symmetry- Excellent
Measurements- 6.10-6.14-3.62
Fluorescence- Faint
Girdle - Medium-Slightly thick
Table- 60% This is a 60/60 diamond and has a specific look to it, a lot of people prefer this, others prefer Tolkowsky proportions. I believe 60/60 diamonds can look bigger and have more light return but less fire.
Depth- 59.2%
Pavilion- 41.0
Crown- 32.0 This is shallow and I read may pose a durability risk but this is unlikely.
Inclusions- Twinning Wisp, Feather (I only have a dossier, so I don't have a plot of where they are). Wisp is fine, feather shouldn't be an issue in a VS2.

It scored a 1.5 on the HCA.

Was this diamond worth it or should we send it back and keep looking? I'd appreciate any advice at all. (The picture in my profile is the diamond)

*edit-to include depth*
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I can't say if the diamond is worth it as I am unfamiliar with US prices (I live in the UK and only just started looking at US prices).
I hope the information I have listed above is of some use, bare in mind I'm only a novice so treat my reply as such. Is there anything you dislike about the diamond? Looks nice in the picture.

Edit: Also note the shallow crown angle can also result in less fire but more light return/brilliance.
 
Thank you very much for trying to help! I certainly appreciate it. What is the difference between fire and light return? If a diamond has more fire does it look prettier and have more sparkle? I'm a college student so my budget cannot exceed $2500 at the moment. I just want a great looking diamond that I love and know is a quality diamond.

My .82 is really beautiful and looks really white to me. I'm naturally an indecisive person, so sometimes I look at it and love and then I look at it again and I'm just mmmh idk.

Are 60/60 diamonds not good?

I'm not sure if anyone else will reply so I guess I'm off to google some more!
 
Patience, my friend. Some of us had funerals, 27 holes of golf, and the county fair today.

That said, what do you think is wrong with the recent purchase?
 
Here's a price comp: $2647 wire price, .82 J VS2 Whiteflash virtual selection http://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3104150.htm
The ACA is top of the line cut, and graded by AGS lab, which usually only gets the best-cut diamonds. GIA excellent cut is a broader range, and includes some diamonds that AGS would definitely not grade as excellent. Virtual selection is one that didn't meet the ACA standards.

You can also look at Brian Gavin and Good Old Good and see if you can find some comps.

Since yours is a VS2, with twinning wisps, it's probably eye-clean. I think you should study it carefully and determine if you actually can see any inclusions or oddness in the light return patterns, or anything. You should also evaluate where that feather is and whether it is the kind of feather or location that can make the diamond prone to chipping or cracking. You'd need to have a jeweler look at it.

Only you can decide if the J color is attractive to you or is white enough for you. Some people want a colorless or white stone, and the I color range is where most people can start to notice tint, and a J definitely looks sightly yellow to me. But I have a .8 J that I wear as an everyday ring, but I mounted it in yellow gold because I thought that color was more complimentary to the color of that particular diamond. It's probably a low J that is close to K. Yours may be a high J, plus you have some blue fluorescence to help whiten it up a bit.

60/60 is a style that was more popular years ago than now. But they are still attractive diamonds if you get one that is a good performer. Lower crown height, lower crown angle, and larger table do slant them more toward brilliance than fire, though. Most PS people are going to go for smaller table 54-57% and deeper stone like 61-62% with about 15% crown height. That is because that combo gives a good balance of both brilliance (white light) and dispersion (fire). Light performance that we talk about here is just referring to how much light enters the diamond and gets reflected back out the top. Ideally, you want all or most light reflected back, and don't want a "leaky" diamond. ASET image is usually used to judge light performance.
 
Thank you! My biggest concern is light leakage. I guess there isn't really a way for me to find out if my diamond is or isn't. I'm going to take a look at AGS graded diamonds and hopefully I find something great.
 
Seems TC1987 has answered all of your questions and more before I had a chance to come back ^^. A 60/60 diamond is a preference for some, not others - personally I prefer stones that are AGS 0 (ideal) and a 60/60 doesn't fit into that. Your stone is nice, but if you lurk around here for a while then you will probably come to the conclusion that you'll want an AGS 0 cut too, that's what happened to me. I started off wanting GIA excellent only.

So, if you're in doubt/don't totally love it then you may as well return and give yourself a bit more time to research etc and make sure you get a diamond you absolutely love.
 
I'm not sure your stone will actually look much different from an AGS 0. I'm still trying to figure out what you think is wrong with it.
 
Looks like it will have a good HCA score.
Buy an idealscope check the leakage if you are that worried.
 
George I'm just nit-picking. Since our budget is not that high I want to know that I at least have a quality diamond on my hand.

And Idealscope sounds like something I should be getting my hands, it probably will really help me decide whether it is worth keeping or returning.
 
The diamond has great spread at 6.1. Honestly even if it has a little leakage, given the price... you might be willing to take the trade off.
 
I do want to post this stone for you: http://www.b2cjewels.com/dd-4624150-0.91-carat-Round-diamond-J-color-VS2-Clarity.aspx?sku=4624150&utm_source=pricescope.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=pricescope.com

It's a VS2. It's larger than your stone by a visual difference since it is 6.3. So it will look like most full carat diamonds.

And B2C can get an idealscope image for you. It's not a GIA Ex. But it DOES have a good HCA score. While you are waiting to see what you want to do. It might be worthwhile to call B2C for an idealscope.

There are rare exceptions to the "GIA EX only" rule and this stone may be one of them. And idealscope would tell you if this one is one of them.

And this one: http://www.eternitybyyoni.com/diamond_detail.php?id=1485782&ref=pricescope I'd ask for an idealscope of this one too.
 
Thank you for your help Gypsy! I'm taking a look at the links right now.
 
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