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No jeweller will set our stone.

Ah, my mistake. I thought it was a single establishment. He has been talking to a lady that is based there, yes.

He’s hoping to go in person at some point, as he feels it’s a more 1:1 thing rather than just inquiring online. Fingers crossed he might find a solution.


I’ve been going through what I’d like and what might feasibly be practical and achievable.

My original design idea was to try and marry the masculine and contemporary trillion shape with the more delicate and tradition elements of a cathedral setting and milgrain detail. I’m not one for side stones or gemstone halos, but I love fine metal work.

Top down, a simple looking solitaire in a V prong setting with some milgrain perhaps as a sort of halo, but then on profile a far more whimsical and delicate appearance. Perhaps with a hidden stone.

We’d already decided on two metals. Rose gold, as I’m so pale I’m almost blue and it compliments me best. And then a white metal such as platinum for more durability.


If some sort of marriage can be created from these images, I’d be happy :D
Credit to all the owners of the photographs btw. I believe the trillion may belong to a member here so I hope it is okay to repost my inspiration.

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Hi there,

If you're already speaking to someone, then why don't you see how that goes first?
 
Mine is just swapping out a stone on an existing setting so not a full blown ring project.
 
@NexivRed

So I called some jewellery workshops/repairs/design places in Hatton Garden, and in principle, none of them would refuse to set a stone bought elsewhere.

All would need to see in my case the setting and the stone to be put in, one said that they would charge a premium to cover for any breakage, two others said they wouldn't but they wouldn't expect to break the stone if they took it on (if they thought it was likely to break or could break they would tell me this and wouldn't take it on).

It would seem the same for you - I did ask one place specifically about someone looking to set a demantoid and having ring designed and they said that shouldn't be a problem, they've set demantoids before.
 
JewelledEscalators said:
But either way, you would need to go into to see them by appointment.
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That’s brilliant, thank you. Are we allowed to share names on here if you’re willing? And I can’t tell him who to try and contact first. At least I know there’s hope in that area so I’ll tell him to focus there. Any excuse to go for a wander round London lol.
 
Sure.

I spoke to these ones:

1) The Hatton Garden Workshops (https://www.hattongardenworkshop.com/our-services)
2) Jewellery Repairs London (https://jewellery-repairs-london.co.uk/)
3) Holts (https://www.holtsgems.com/) (https://holtslapidary.com/)

I think they all do custom designs as well as repairs etc. 3) is also known for selling coloured gemstones - they said they've set demantoids before.

1) and 2) are in the same courtyard and 3) is off the same road further down.

Since they would all need to see your stone etc. why don't you call them, discuss your project, make an appointment to see them one morning or afternoon and see what they say?

In my case, I'm only looking to swap a stone on an existing setting and not looking for a whole custom ring design so didn't call too many places, but the whole area is a jewellery district so there are many places you can try for a custom project.

​

 
NexivRed said:
Ah, my mistake. I thought it was a single establishment. He has been talking to a lady that is based there, yes.

He’s hoping to go in person at some point, as he feels it’s a more 1:1 thing rather than just inquiring online. Fingers crossed he might find a solution.


I’ve been going through what I’d like and what might feasibly be practical and achievable.

My original design idea was to try and marry the masculine and contemporary trillion shape with the more delicate and tradition elements of a cathedral setting and milgrain detail. I’m not one for side stones or gemstone halos, but I love fine metal work.

Top down, a simple looking solitaire in a V prong setting with some milgrain perhaps as a sort of halo, but then on profile a far more whimsical and delicate appearance. Perhaps with a hidden stone.

We’d already decided on two metals. Rose gold, as I’m so pale I’m almost blue and it compliments me best. And then a white metal such as platinum for more durability.


If some sort of marriage can be created from these images, I’d be happy :D
Credit to all the owners of the photographs btw. I believe the trillion may belong to a member here so I hope it is okay to repost my inspiration.

2C2A394E-EFF0-4F2A-A396-4BABB9EB764A.jpeg
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On the design, a halo (top right, middle left) would help protect the stone. Raised shoulders (top right) would be mechanically stronger than single point connection (middle left). Aesthetically, I like the solitaire (bottom right), but it leaves the stone very exposed.
 
NexivRed said:
Hi all.

My partner purchased an engagement stone we both love quite a while ago, and timing and finances have finally meant we can set it.

However, every custom jeweller he’s approached here in the U.K. has turned him down citing insurance issues.
They state they can craft us a ring and set a stone they have sourced and we choose, and have sent many examples of work we’re both happy with, and lovely gemstones. But I’ve never heard of being turned down due to us owning the stone beforehand?

It’s a trillion cut demantoid from the Ural mountains. I know they’re not super easy to find in a decent medium green, but I don’t think it’s a super rare stone. It’s not massive or anything.


We’re reluctant to send it abroad because of the cost of export and import tax. We’d much rather use our budget on the ring. But at this point I don’t want to be left with just a loose stone.

Can anyone offer any insight? Thank you.


Vendor pics and one on my hand for eye candy I adore this stone. The fire on it in sunlight is amazing.

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Hello,

Don't know if you already checked these guys out, they seem to specialize in coloured gems:

Personalised Jewellery by Helen Plumb - Just Gems

Fine quality personalised jewellery by leading gemstone expert Helen Plumb. Visit our online store or call us today for an individually designed piece that will stand out.
www.just-gems.co.uk www.just-gems.co.uk

Also Temprell in Nottingham seem reputable, if I remember well they did Lady Gaga's engagement ring years ago:

Temprell Jewellers: Engagement Ring and Wedding Band Specialists

Bespoke engagement ring and wedding band specialists. Offering repairs, consultations and valuations. Situated in the heart of Nottingham.
www.temprell.com www.temprell.com

FYI I've not interacted with the above vendors.
 
NexivRed said:
Thank you for the advice. T L, I would hope we haven’t exhausted all of them either, but I’m letting my partner take the lead, and these are his findings so far.

I mention about a damage waiver and he said he’d asked them but received a no.

We were looking into a complete bevel setting with some millgrain for the setting, to protect the stone. It’s about 6.5 x 7.5mm. Around a carat and a half I believe.
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Bezel settings on soft stones are tricky. Insights above about jewelers on the high street may be hesitant to set an outside stone feels about right.

To set a bezel, generally the jeweler hits the metal edge that folds over the stone with a hammer. Dematoids are soft, strike one. The piece is small meaning there is not a lot of profit in the simple setting for the jeweler- mark up margin on stones is much better than gold and labour, strike two. Fancy cuts with corners that are easier to damaged during setting in a bezel compared to a round cut with no corners, strike three.

It is a lovely stone. Would you consider a pre fabricated prong setting that is less tricky to set?
 
Two other names maybe worth a look (I have no experience of either but follow both on IG),
Durham Rose and Harrison Beasant.
 
NexivRed said:
Ah, my mistake. I thought it was a single establishment. He has been talking to a lady that is based there, yes.

He’s hoping to go in person at some point, as he feels it’s a more 1:1 thing rather than just inquiring online. Fingers crossed he might find a solution.


I’ve been going through what I’d like and what might feasibly be practical and achievable.

My original design idea was to try and marry the masculine and contemporary trillion shape with the more delicate and tradition elements of a cathedral setting and milgrain detail. I’m not one for side stones or gemstone halos, but I love fine metal work.

Top down, a simple looking solitaire in a V prong setting with some milgrain perhaps as a sort of halo, but then on profile a far more whimsical and delicate appearance. Perhaps with a hidden stone.

We’d already decided on two metals. Rose gold, as I’m so pale I’m almost blue and it compliments me best. And then a white metal such as platinum for more durability.


If some sort of marriage can be created from these images, I’d be happy :D
Credit to all the owners of the photographs btw. I believe the trillion may belong to a member here so I hope it is okay to repost my inspiration.

2C2A394E-EFF0-4F2A-A396-4BABB9EB764A.jpeg
Click to expand...

Loving your inspirations
Best of luck with finding a jewlery
Love the meaning behind your choice of stone
Looking forward to seeing it set and on your finger
 
JewelledEscalators said:
Sure.

I spoke to these ones:

1) The Hatton Garden Workshops (https://www.hattongardenworkshop.com/our-services)
2) Jewellery Repairs London (https://jewellery-repairs-london.co.uk/)
3) Holts (https://www.holtsgems.com/) (https://holtslapidary.com/)

I think they all do custom designs as well as repairs etc. 3) is also known for selling coloured gemstones - they said they've set demantoids before.

1) and 2) are in the same courtyard and 3) is off the same road further down.

Since they would all need to see your stone etc. why don't you call them, discuss your project, make an appointment to see them one morning or afternoon and see what they say?

In my case, I'm only looking to swap a stone on an existing setting and not looking for a whole custom ring design so didn't call too many places, but the whole area is a jewellery district so there are many places you can try for a custom project.

​

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You’ve been a brilliant help, thank you.

Starstruck8 said:
On the design, a halo (top right, middle left) would help protect the stone. Raised shoulders (top right) would be mechanically stronger than single point connection (middle left). Aesthetically, I like the solitaire (bottom right), but it leaves the stone very exposed.
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Yeah, I can see it’s a bit alone set like that. I don’t mind lower and with some sort of border to it. Just not a bejewlled halo type. But hopefully a setter will have ideas I can compromise to.

Gloria27 said:
Hello,

Don't know if you already checked these guys out, they seem to specialize in coloured gems:

Personalised Jewellery by Helen Plumb - Just Gems

Fine quality personalised jewellery by leading gemstone expert Helen Plumb. Visit our online store or call us today for an individually designed piece that will stand out.
www.just-gems.co.uk www.just-gems.co.uk

Also Temprell in Nottingham seem reputable, if I remember well they did Lady Gaga's engagement ring years ago:

Temprell Jewellers: Engagement Ring and Wedding Band Specialists

Bespoke engagement ring and wedding band specialists. Offering repairs, consultations and valuations. Situated in the heart of Nottingham.
www.temprell.com www.temprell.com

FYI I've not interacted with the above vendors.
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Thank you. Really appreciate it.

caolsen said:
Bezel settings on soft stones are tricky. Insights above about jewelers on the high street may be hesitant to set an outside stone feels about right.

To set a bezel, generally the jeweler hits the metal edge that folds over the stone with a hammer. Dematoids are soft, strike one. The piece is small meaning there is not a lot of profit in the simple setting for the jeweler- mark up margin on stones is much better than gold and labour, strike two. Fancy cuts with corners that are easier to damaged during setting in a bezel compared to a round cut with no corners, strike three.

It is a lovely stone. Would you consider a pre fabricated prong setting that is less tricky to set?
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Yes, definitely. Setting the stone any which way is my priority now. There’s no other stone I want instead of this, so I’m happy to compromise just to get it set. It’s the stone that will do the singing.


I will keep you updated. Really appreciate the interest and time you’re all taking for my stone. It’s given me a lot of hope it can happen now for sure!
 
NexivRed said:
Yeah, I can see it’s a bit alone set like that. I don’t mind lower and with some sort of border to it. Just not a bejewlled halo type. But hopefully a setter will have ideas I can compromise to.
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Maybe a faux bezel - metal surround, but with the stone held by claws. Here is a spectacular example. (Apologies to the owner - I know this belongs to a PSer, but I've forgotten who.)

RosePearRing_edited-1.jpg
 
JewelledEscalators said:
Haha, so I guess I'm not the only one who secretly downloads other people's bling pics to add to my collection of jewel-p0rn :twisted2:
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I bookmark the posts in a special folder in my browser. Thought some process of saving other people's bling for future reference (or just plain drooling) was a given and that everyone does it. :D
 
Avondale said:
I bookmark the posts in a special folder in my browser. Thought some process of saving other people's bling for future reference (or just plain drooling) was a given and that everyone does it. :D
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I regularly go through my folder of various pieces of bling to drool...sometimes I feel like a miser counting gold coins, except that they don't belong to me.
 
Pretty garnet!

Not an expert but wanted to share that I have some soft stones (peridot 6.5-7) set in bezels and they are indeed not as good quality bezels as the other setting the jeweler has done for me. The jeweler said he was nervous with every movement. (He also disclosed the difficulty ahead of time so no complaints.). Overall point is not only could a jeweler worry about damaging the stone — they could also worry about their image.
 
Starstruck8 said:
Maybe a faux bezel - metal surround, but with the stone held by claws. Here is a spectacular example. (Apologies to the owner - I know this belongs to a PSer, but I've forgotten who.)

RosePearRing_edited-1.jpg
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You know what, I actually really like that blend. It works wonderfully with that pear. And it allows for some more metal work to admire. Thanks for sharing that :D
 
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