Pear Diamond Pendant

[vetenks]

Hi All!

I am searching to purchase a pear diamond pendant as a wedding gift for my wife to be. Regarding a 'pear' shape diamond what are there key parameters and/or symmetry I should be looking for? or any pitfalls I should be aware of. I already have a sound knowledge on round cuts etc.

Thanks for your time!

 

[Frenchgirl]

Great choice!!! Pears are beautiful!!!

This is my pear pendant (0.80ct F VVS1) :

 

[yssie]

Have you looked at what the PS fancy shape tutorial has to say? https://www.pricescope.com/wiki/diamonds/pear-cut-diamond/

fancies are difficult because within a shape there are so many varieties and combinations that make stones of such different types, there is very little agreement about good vs. better. First thing to do is to decide what 'type' of pear you like - short and fat or long and skinny, ASET will help though an in-person inspection is better

 

[vetenks]

Have you looked at what the PS fancy shape tutorial has to say? https://www.pricescope.com/wiki/diamonds/pear-cut-diamond/

fancies are difficult because within a shape there are so many varieties and combinations that make stones of such different types, there is very little agreement about good vs. better. First thing to do is to decide what 'type' of pear you like - short and fat or long and skinny, ASET will help though an in-person inspection is better

Thanks for your advise both, lovely picture btw! Yeah I did check that url but it seemed very subjective and to personal preference. Okay I think an ASET would be the best thing to check if I was to order online. I know this is personal preference, but are there other cuts you would recommend for a pendant/necklace?

Thanks

 

[Frenchgirl]

I think that the pear diamond is very elegant and feminine. In my opinion, that changes the round diamond.

 

[FancyDiamond]

Are you looking for a pear solitaire or are you open to the idea of a pear shaped pendant? For a pear shape pendant, you can put two round diamonds (one small on top of one big) inside a pear shaped setting. This way, you can have the most brilliant possible cut and have an easier time shopping for diamonds with your knowledge. In addition to shape, you need to think about the overall dimensions (size) of the pendant. The size of the setting dictates the size of diamond(s) needed and thus $$$. The most important (and first) question is how much are you willing to spend?

Do a search on pendants to get ideas.

 

[tyty333]

If you let us know what your budget is we might be able to provide you with some links to some pears that may be
of interest. Pears do make beautiful pendents.

 

[bebe]

this pear was my original engagement ring stone. It's a .96ct. low color, K most likely and an awful clarity, about an I. But since it is now in a pendant (Whiteflash did the remake) the color and clarity don't bother me.

Regarding pears, I personally like the more elongated ones. You will have a bowtie across the middle of the stone, but I have seen some
top makes that the bowtie is less obvious. From my experience, a lower color will be emphasized in the point of the stone, in other words you might see "some color" there if the stone is a low color. In mine I see it all through the stone of course! Good luck !!

 

[bebe]

there is a thread on the Show Me The Bling forum here on PS that is devoted to Pears.
Pears Fan Club - I think. I just saw it and added my little one. There are some beauties in
that thread you might want to look at.

 

[vbnet]

this pear was my original engagement ring stone. It's a .96ct. low color, K most likely and an awful clarity, about an I. But since it is now in a pendant (Whiteflash did the remake) the color and clarity don't bother me.

Regarding pears, I personally like the more elongated ones. You will have a bowtie across the middle of the stone, but I have seen some
top makes that the bowtie is less obvious. From my experience, a lower color will be emphasized in the point of the stone, in other words you might see "some color" there if the stone is a low color. In mine I see it all through the stone of course! Good luck !!

Very Pretty Bebe! I have a pear sitting in the box (my original er) - Whiteflash did a beautiful job!

 

[Circe]

What a lovely present to plan!

Pears are gorgeous stones for pendants. The "preferred" proportions for pears are between 1.5:1 and 1.75:1. It's a matter of personal preference, though - I think short, fat pears are very attractive, and I quite like the long ones as well (though, if they're too long and narrow, there can be a durability issue in setting).

You'll want to look out for color concentration in the point, if you get a lower color stone - pears can start to show color around the tip as high as H, so you'll need to ask your vendor, or see for yourself if you're color sensitive.

Be wary of uneven wings (the flat bit leading to the tip) and shoulders (the curved ends) - sometimes they can be too flat, or bulgey, and sometimes the shoulders can be oddly square. None of these necessarily makes a stone unattractive per se, as it's a matter of personal taste, but it can affect the cut grade - if you like the look of any of these, don't necessarily discount a stone that has a bad grade off the bat.

This table gives some good basic guidelines: https://www.pricescope.com/wiki/diamonds/pear-cut-diamond, but, again, don't feel too hemmed in by the numbers; fancies are a lot more intuitive than rounds. My pear winds up in the 2B column for its 64.5 depth ... but as someone pointed out to me when I was shopping, depth can help minimize a bow-tie.

The cut of a pear can do a lot to disguise inclusions: I bought an SI1 somewhat warily, but the placement of my inclusions below the pavilion facets makes them completely impossible to spot with the naked eye (I would be wary of anything that's plotted with an inclusion dead bang in the middle of the table, though).

And, by all means, post your budget and the specs you think you'd prefer! PSrs can give awesome suggestions.

 

[yssie]

What a lovely present to plan!

Pears are gorgeous stones for pendants. The "preferred" proportions for pears are between 1.5:1 and 1.75:1. It's a matter of personal preference, though - I think short, fat pears are very attractive, and I quite like the long ones as well (though, if they're too long and narrow, there can be a durability issue in setting).

You'll want to look out for color concentration in the point, if you get a lower color stone - pears can start to show color around the tip as high as H, so you'll need to ask your vendor, or see for yourself if you're color sensitive.

Be wary of uneven wings (the flat bit leading to the tip) and shoulders (the curved ends) - sometimes they can be too flat, or bulgey, and sometimes the shoulders can be oddly square. None of these necessarily makes a stone unattractive per se, as it's a matter of personal taste, but it can affect the cut grade - if you like the look of any of these, don't necessarily discount a stone that has a bad grade off the bat.

This table gives some good basic guidelines: https://www.pricescope.com/wiki/diamonds/pear-cut-diamond, but, again, don't feel too hemmed in by the numbers; fancies are a lot more intuitive than rounds. My pear winds up in the 2B column for its 64.5 depth ... but as someone pointed out to me when I was shopping, depth can help minimize a bow-tie.

The cut of a pear can do a lot to disguise inclusions: I bought an SI1 somewhat warily, but the placement of my inclusions below the pavilion facets makes them completely impossible to spot with the naked eye (I would be wary of anything that's plotted with an inclusion dead bang in the middle of the table, though).

And, by all means, post your budget and the specs you think you'd prefer! PSrs can give awesome suggestions.

Thought about this tool (http://www.gemappraisers.com/shapePickerNew.asp) when I read all the info here - kinda fun, you can play around w/ the shape & bulge and get some idea of what you might like

 

[Asscherhalo_lover]

I think a pear shaped diamond is so classic and elegant for a pendant, I have always wanted a colored diamond pear that hangs from a white round diamond in a bezel. I have a dangle pendant that uses pear diamonds and I just love them!

 

[vetenks]

this pear was my original engagement ring stone. It's a .96ct. low color, K most likely and an awful clarity, about an I. But since it is now in a pendant (Whiteflash did the remake) the color and clarity don't bother me.

Regarding pears, I personally like the more elongated ones. You will have a bowtie across the middle of the stone, but I have seen some
top makes that the bowtie is less obvious. From my experience, a lower color will be emphasized in the point of the stone, in other words you might see "some color" there if the stone is a low color. In mine I see it all through the stone of course! Good luck !!

Wow! thank you for all you input fellow PS members, it has been incredible helpful all of you, and I really appreciate it!

Firstly let me start off by saying Bebe that pear pendant looks amazing! I really like the chain as well I may have to start looking elsewhere as that necklace chain alone I want!

Yeah I thought the Pear had a classic elegant look what drawn me to it, plus I just splash out on a 1.03c H VS1 (AGS0) round engagement ring so I fancy so different that I can have her wear for our wedding day.

Anyway thank you so much for that tool Yssie, very useful and clever, after a quick trial I to think I prefer the fatter and shorter pear look, but then again its always hard to judge from a program than the real thing, so I guess I am saying I am open to suggestions that you may see.

Hmmmm my budget, slighly tricky as I am also thinking of purchasing some Martini Style diamond Earrings for my wife to be as well, and yet to decide how much to spend on those, was thinking between 0.3-0.5ct each, would you say there is much difference between the size in this range? (sorry for changing subject). I guess for the 'Pear' diamond I want at least 0.5ct, H or better, and eye-clean. would you say the polish and symmetry is as important as it was for my Round engaement ring? also it seems like that 'Cut' is slightly more on personal preference.

Thanks for your time!

 

[tyty333]

It would be easier to pick out the earrings first then use the money left for the pear.

Whiteflash Ready-Set-Go Martinis are

.5 ctw $800
.75 ctw $1125
.1 ctw $2345

You *might be* able to go lower color and get them for less. It would be nice if you could get upgradable.

Edit
Brian Gavin has a lot of smaller stones that would be nice for earrings and would be upgradable.
http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/home/ring-details/?product_id=5386 /* setting */
http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/diamond/brian-gavin-hearts-and-arrows/?dia_page=6&order_by=sell&order_sort=DESC

 

[vetenks]

Is a slightly thick to an extremely thick girdle a big no no for a Pear? thanks, will see my shortlist soon!

 

[vetenks]

Any thoughts on these ones?

http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/F-VS2-Ideal-Cut-Pear-Diamond-1316232.asp $1980 (Girdle sl thick – extre thick)
http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/E-VVS2-Ideal-Cut-Pear-Diamond-1314828.asp $1850
http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/G-VS2-Ideal-Cut-Pear-Diamond-1335401.asp $3680
http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/G-VS1-Ideal-Cut-Pear-Diamond-1338114.asp $3700

 

[tyty333]

I say no to the first one. The faceting pattern is not very attractive (IMO).

The second one looks like it might be nice...will have a bow-tie but if its white I'm ok with that.
You can ask for an aset image of up to 3 stones for free. You are paying a little more for the VVS*
which some will say is a waste of money but with fancys like pears you sort of have to find a stone
that looks good/performs good or best you can find, and then take whatever goes with that stone
whether it be an SI1 or a VVS*.

Stones 3 and 4 - not enough information. I think you would have to pay to have them shipped in and have
pictures taken. Need to ask James Allen what the process is.

 

[vetenks]

I say no to the first one. The faceting pattern is not very attractive (IMO).

The second one looks like it might be nice...will have a bow-tie but if its white I'm ok with that.
You can ask for an aset image of up to 3 stones for free. You are paying a little more for the VVS*
which some will say is a waste of money but with fancys like pears you sort of have to find a stone
that looks good/performs good or best you can find, and then take whatever goes with that stone
whether it be an SI1 or a VVS*.

Stones 3 and 4 - not enough information. I think you would have to pay to have them shipped in and have
pictures taken. Need to ask James Allen what the process is.

Thanks for your help! I will ask about aset images and see if they can help, only problem is I think I asked them before when I got my engagment ring so it depends if they count those or not.

I also thought these could be nice?

http://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/pear-cut-loose-diamond-2496232.htm
0.77FVS1 $2600
http://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/pear-cut-loose-diamond-2508777.htm
0.8FVVS2 $3000

 

[vetenks]

Does a thick girdle make much difference for a Pear? I know uit round slightly thin - slightly thick is the recommendation.

 

[vetenks]

this pear was my original engagement ring stone. It's a .96ct. low color, K most likely and an awful clarity, about an I. But since it is now in a pendant (Whiteflash did the remake) the color and clarity don't bother me.

Regarding pears, I personally like the more elongated ones. You will have a bowtie across the middle of the stone, but I have seen some
top makes that the bowtie is less obvious. From my experience, a lower color will be emphasized in the point of the stone, in other words you might see "some color" there if the stone is a low color. In mine I see it all through the stone of course! Good luck !!

Bebe did the necklace shown come from WF? it is very nice!

 

[vetenks]

Hi All!

Choice between two pear diamonds now? what do you reckon?

Pear 0.82 G VS2 VG VG GIA Depth 59.3% Table57% 8.05x5.38x3.19
Pear 0.62ct D VS2 EX VG

The D colour is $300 cheaper, and has excellent polish instead of VG. The ratio is about 1.5:1 and Table and Depth look good.

Is there much difference in appearance to an excellent v VG polish?

 

[vbnet]

Bebe, I love the remake of your pear! Mine is similar, about .87 and who knows what quality/color, etc. I might be following in your footsteps! Whiteflash did a nice job.

 

[bebe]

this pear was my original engagement ring stone. It's a .96ct. low color, K most likely and an awful clarity, about an I. But since it is now in a pendant (Whiteflash did the remake) the color and clarity don't bother me.

Regarding pears, I personally like the more elongated ones. You will have a bowtie across the middle of the stone, but I have seen some
top makes that the bowtie is less obvious. From my experience, a lower color will be emphasized in the point of the stone, in other words you might see "some color" there if the stone is a low color. In mine I see it all through the stone of course! Good luck !!

Bebe did the necklace shown come from WF? it is very nice!

The Pear was my original engagement stone. I had Whiteflash do the remake for me a few years ago, adding the smaller bezeled
stones on the necklace.

 

[Circe]

Hi All!

Choice between two pear diamonds now? what do you reckon?

Pear 0.82 G VS2 VG VG GIA Depth 59.3% Table57% 8.05x5.38x3.19
Pear 0.62ct D VS2 EX VG

The D colour is $300 cheaper, and has excellent polish instead of VG. The ratio is about 1.5:1 and Table and Depth look good.

Is there much difference in appearance to an excellent v VG polish?

I'd vote for the G, I think: I like the proportions. It looks like it faces up nicely, and isn't too deep. What are the proportions on the D?

 

[vetenks]

Hi All!

Choice between two pear diamonds now? what do you reckon?

Pear 0.82 G VS2 VG VG GIA Depth 59.3% Table57% 8.05x5.38x3.19
Pear 0.62ct D VS2 EX VG

The D colour is $300 cheaper, and has excellent polish instead of VG. The ratio is about 1.5:1 and Table and Depth look good.

Is there much difference in appearance to an excellent v VG polish?

I'd vote for the G, I think: I like the proportions. It looks like it faces up nicely, and isn't too deep. What are the proportions on the D?

 

[vetenks]

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[vetenks]

The above images of the 0.82cwt G VS2 I specified above, let me know your thoughts or I should ask any questions before committing? Thanks for your help!

 

[vetenks]

About to purchase, final thoughts!?