Royal Jewels

[AGBF]

The Princess of Löwenstein-Wertheim-Rosenberg's aquamarine jewels:

Her escort (is that the prince?) is extremely well-dressed! I absolutely adore his tie!

Deb/AGBF


Diamonds Are A Girl's Best Friend

 

[AGBF]

It's both the first and the second time we see Lady Nicholas with a tiara. So far we've only seen Paola with a diamond and sapphire necklace, which was sewn into her hair. The occasion was the gala dinner after (or was it before?) the wedding of HRH The Hereditary Prince of Sachsen-Coburg und Gotha in 2009.

Here's a photo:

http://7.t.cdn.belga.be/picture:13948123:preview:watermark

Isn't she using her hair to cover the base of her tiara as Princess Astrid of Belgium did?

AGBF

 

[prince.of.preslav]

Isn't she using her hair to cover the base of her tiara as Princess Astrid of Belgium did?

AGBF

No, she is not. The reason is simple - the piece doesn't have a base. As I explained, Lady Nicholas is in fact wearing a diamond and sapphire necklace sewn in her hair.
Here you can see it worn as a necklace:


Bobby

 

[prince.of.preslav]

While attending the red carpet event in California the Duchess of Cambridge wore a lavender dress. I just saw a small picture of a bracelet on her right wrist, could someone comment on this bracelet. If you have previously could you please refer me back to it in the thread. Thanks

Would you be so kind to post a photo of the bracelet, or at least a link where we can see it, please? The Duchess of Cambridge has worn a lot of bracelets and I just can''t remeber which one you're takling about.

Thanks in advance!

Bobby

 

[prince.of.preslav]

In addition to her gold leaf earrings, Princess Victoria wore a handsome bracelet at the naming of a ship in Stockholm yesterday. I haven't seen it before & couldn't come up with info on it. I mean the cuff -- can't tell what the stone is; in this photo it looks like Tiger Eye but that's a guess.

I'm not able to comment on the maker of the bracelet, but I can post this clear close-up. Like you, I also think this might be a Tiger's eye, but it might also be a piece from Victoria's collection of bold fake jewels. Either way, it's a nice piece. As far as I remember, we've seen both the bracelet and the earrings before.



Bobby

 

[alexander1917]

How did the Greek royals get to keep all of their jewels? Were there separate Crown Jewels that the State kept? Were all of the jewels considered private property? Did they Royal Family transfer them out of the country before the revolution? Just curious and can't seem to find the answer on the internet.

the Queen took her Ruby (mayby from Queen Olga) and Emerald (from Queen Olga) sets with her when the left Greece for Italy. there is a story that the Queen carry the casket by herself. and the sets were worn from time to time.

the large diamond tiara and the huge sapphire were sold.

Greek Crown Jewels

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
When Otto of Bavaria became the first King of Greece in 1832 when the great European powers forced the militarily chastened Ottoman Empire to formally accept its independence, he brought with him from Bavaria some of his ancestral Wittelsbach dynasty crown jewels: a crown, orb and sceptre which he declared to be the Crown Jewels of Greece. However, when he was overthrown in a coup in 1862 and fled, he took "his" jewels back with him to Bavaria.

In 1959, Albrecht, Duke of Bavaria presented the Greek Crown Jewels (also called the Greek Regalia) back to King Paul of Greece. Greek monarchs since Otto had not been crowned. Nevertheless the Crown Jewels of Otto were accepted and remain in Greece.

 

[laurensmama]

Okay Bobby hope this works and you can see the picture. It looks maybe diamonds, maybe art deco, not sure. Thanks


http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2011/07/11/duchess-of-cambridge-steals-the-show-in-hollywood-115875-23262579/

 

[prince.of.preslav]

How did the Greek royals get to keep all of their jewels? Were there separate Crown Jewels that the State kept? Were all of the jewels considered private property? Did they Royal Family transfer them out of the country before the revolution? Just curious and can't seem to find the answer on the internet.

Yes, the historical jewels of the Greek royal family are their private property. Each of the rubies in the ruby parure, for example, were presents from Georgios I to his Queen Olga. The emeralds (all of extraordinary size and quality) are part of Grand Duchess (later Queen) Olga's dowery. Some other jewels were presents to Queen Anne-Marie from her parens, her husband and other people (wealthy Greeks, f.e.). There are also Queen Frederiki's jewels that she kept after Constantinos and Anne-Marie's wedding.
But the royal family hardly has all of it's jewels. The extraordinary sapphire pendant of Queen Maria of Romania was sold, as was a diamond rivere and a diamond and pearl tiara/necklace. We've also not seen the jewels that Princess Ireni used to wear at glittering events in years. Also Queen Olga's turquoise parure was sold to help pay for Prince Michael's upbringing/education.
Anyway, you're right that the rf was able to take it's jewels with them when they left Greece. There are the Crown jewels that, of course, remained in the country as it's possessions.

Bobby

 

[prince.of.preslav]

the large diamond tiara and the huge sapphire were sold.

A couple of mebers of the Greek royal family have said at the time of Nikolaos & Tatiana's wedding that Queen Sofia's large diamond tiara is still in the family. It was also mentioned that it will not go to Prince Nikolaos, so that leaves Prince Philipos and Princess Irene as main suspects. I exclude Princess Theodora as she's only worn her mother's diamond and pearl tiara.

Bobby

 

[prince.of.preslav]

Okay Bobby hope this works and you can see the picture. It looks maybe diamonds, maybe art deco, not sure. Thanks


http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2011/07/11/duchess-of-cambridge-steals-the-show-in-hollywood-115875-23262579/

Yes, the link is helpful I now remember the bracelet quite well and can tell you that we've discussed it here before. Unfortunately, I never remembe the pages on which we've discused sertain jewels. Maybe s.o. can tell you the page.

Anyway, here's one of the best shots of the bracelet. As you can see, there are yellowish stones in it. Sadly, I don't have clear photos.


Bobby

 

[prince.of.preslav]

Here's a close-up of a pair of diamond and sapphire (?) earrings from Princess Marie of Denmark's collection. The Princess wore that at a jewellery exhibition, which she featured a tiara she helped design (feand I hope which she gets to wear). HRH also wore the earrings at the gala dinner for The Prince & Princess of Monaco's wedding. There''s a matching pendant, which she also wore at the wedding.


For more photos follow this link- http://www.ppe-agency.com/show.php?zoektype=2&search=28-08-2011 Bella

Bobby

 

[prince.of.preslav]

I just saw a couple of photos from the gala dinner after the wedding of TI&RH The Prince & Princess of Prussia and I can tell you that the reports that said Sophie was to wear the Meander tiara at the ball were true. The new (de-jure) Kaiserin wore the same dress and diamond studs and the tiara was placed in the best way possible, exactly as it should be worn. There's also a photo of one of her sisters - The Princess of Wied with a huge Napoleonic tiara in diamonds* and an impressive amethyst and diamond set.

*you can see a photo here - http://www.royal-magazin.de/german/wied/index.htm

Best,
Bobby

 

[prince.of.preslav]

Today a State Visit to Norway (about which I had totally forgotten) by the President of SA started. In the evening there was the usual banquet with a display of some of the royal jewels.
This time The Queen wore the emerald parure with a nice dress that complements it:

http://www.picturedesk.com/bild-dis...ref=58735986-EGWAASGWPOOPHEOGWECPRHCEO&w=true

The Crown Princess wore (not surprising) her diamond tiara at the back of the head, also diamond and red stone earrings. I think I rather like this look, certinly love the do

http://www.picturedesk.com/bild-dis...ref=58735716-EGWAASGWPOOPHEOGHCOPACTOS&w=true

Princess Astrid wore her diamond wings, a riviere, earrings and Queen Maud's large bow brooch. The Dress is quite well-known:

http://www.picturedesk.com/bild-dis...ef=58735736-EGWAASGWPOOPHEOGORREOTWPRH&w=true

Bobby

 

[LadyMaria]

Here's a close-up of a pair of diamond and sapphire (?) earrings from Princess Marie of Denmark's collection. The Princess wore that at a jewellery exhibition, which she featured a tiara she helped design (feand I hope which she gets to wear). HRH also wore the earrings at the gala dinner for The Prince & Princess of Monaco's wedding. There''s a matching pendant, which she also wore at the wedding.


For more photos follow this link- http://www.ppe-agency.com/show.php?zoektype=2&search=28-08-2011 Bella

Bobby

Looked at these pictures...they all say "Pregnant Princess Marie!" When did that get announced? Am I that far out of the loop?!?!

I wish there was a better picture of the tiara. Love the earrings!

 

[LadyMaria]

I just saw a couple of photos from the gala dinner after the wedding of TI&RH The Prince & Princess of Prussia and I can tell you that the reports that said Sophie was to wear the Meander tiara at the ball were true. The new (de-jure) Kaiserin wore the same dress and diamond studs and the tiara was placed in the best way possible, exactly as it should be worn. There's also a photo of one of her sisters - The Princess of Wied with a huge Napoleonic tiara in diamonds* and an impressive amethyst and diamond set.


Best,
Bobby

Can you post the pictures you are referring to? They sound delightful!!!

 

[JewelFreak]

Doesn't the CP look lovely! I like the hairdo & how she wears the tiara too, Bobby. For some reason it looks very Scandinavian to me. The earrings are just right too.

I'd like to see the Prussia pics too, if you can post a link. Many thanks.

--- Laurie

 

[prince.of.preslav]

Looked at these pictures...they all say "Pregnant Princess Marie!" When did that get announced? Am I that far out of the loop?!?!

I wish there was a better picture of the tiara. Love the earrings!

Princess Marie's prgnency was announced on August 24. You can read the official announcement here: http://kongehuset.dk/publish.php?id=29854

The tiara is made of silver and consists of 3 natyralistic French liles (which symbolise Joachim, Marie and Hendrik). There ars also small diamonds in the center of each lilie and 25 amethysts have been added as a personal greeting to the Princess, whose fav stones are emthysts.
And here's a photo of the tiara, still in the making then:

 

[prince.of.preslav]

Can you post the pictures you are referring to? They sound delightful!!!

I saw the photos on RJWMB. It was the express wish of the poster and owner of the pics not to post them anywhere. That's one of the reasons why I didn't post them here. Unfortunately, someone has violated this wish and the owner has now deleated them from that Board.... Otherways I would've provided a link.
I still have the photos on my computer, but they are for personal use only. I'm sorry.

Anyway, there's still a chance for you to see many glittering photos from the evening in the German society magazine BUNTE.
As far as I know, there are photos of Princess Désirée of Hohenzollern with her mother's pearl and diamond tiara and of Pss Maria-Carolina of Bourbon-Parma with the laurel-leaf tiara from the O-N collection.

Bobby

 

[prince.of.preslav]

Doesn't the CP look lovely! I like the hairdo & how she wears the tiara too, Bobby. For some reason it looks very Scandinavian to me. The earrings are just right too.

I'd like to see the Prussia pics too, if you can post a link. Many thanks.

--- Laurie

LOL! Perhaps Mette-Marit look Scandinavian to you, because she is...Scandinavian? A true Norwegian beauty, even.

As to the earrings - Well, yes, they looked nice. What I like about them is that they are a most versatile pair. The Crown Princess has worn them with white pear-shaped pearls and black/gray round pearls. I still wonder what the red stone is.


Bobby

 

[JewelFreak]

Yeah, I know she is Scandinavian -- and looks it especially w/her tiara worn as she did -- that's what I meant. The earrings -- I wonder about the stone too -- could be rubies or garnets, possibly spinels but that would be somewhat unique.

Since I presume the RJWMB poster didn't take the photos herself, therefore lifted them from somwhere, it is odd to get huffy about anyone else's using them, isn't it? Just an unimportant passing thought.

--- Laurie

 

[prince.of.preslav]

Since I presume the RJWMB poster didn't take the photos herself, therefore lifted them from somwhere, it is odd to get huffy about anyone else's using them, isn't it? Just an unimportant passing thought.

--- Laurie

The RJWMB poster - Stig - is the person who took the photos. I believe he's royal photographer, as well as a royal watcher. That's why he was annoyed that his wish has been violated and his photos stolen.

By the way, I once saw a forum where every single post of mine with pics and story of royal jewels (including the spelling mistakes!) was copied by s.b. else. This made me really irated, but that's the price we pay for posting on the Internet - evryone can steal from you (pix and info)... I didn't bother alerting the board admin back then ,but now that I think of it, perhaps I should've done it.

Bobby

 

[prince.of.preslav]

Yeah, I know she is Scandinavian -- and looks it especially w/her tiara worn as she did -- that's what I meant. The earrings -- I wonder about the stone too -- could be rubies or garnets, possibly spinels but that would be somewhat unique.
--- Laurie

Aaaa I see now what you menat My apologies for the misunderstaning.

A ruby of that size in the Norwegian royal family? Even two... I don't think so. Garnets and spinels - possibly.

Bobby

 

[laurensmama]

Hello everyone, could someone please post a better picture of the finished tiara designed by Princess Marie. It sounds very pretty and the little photo is blurry. Thanks.

 

[Princess Dagmar]

Re: Queen Olgas rubies

Good morning Bobby,
I would like to ask you if you remember where you sourced the info on King Georgios I of Greece giving his Queen Olga the rubies.
As I would never have thought that he would have been wealthy enough to purchase the rubies. I always just assumed that the rubies came from either her wealthy parents or Tsar Alexander II or some other Russian close relative as a wedding gift. Or Perhaps his sister Dagmar when she was Tsarina gave them as a gift to George/Willy for his wife.

 

[neil31uk]

Doesn't the CP look lovely! I like the hairdo & how she wears the tiara too, Bobby. For some reason it looks very Scandinavian to me. The earrings are just right too.

I'd like to see the Prussia pics too, if you can post a link. Many thanks.

--- Laurie

LOL! Perhaps Mette-Marit look Scandinavian to you, because she is...Scandinavian? A true Norwegian beauty, even.

As to the earrings - Well, yes, they looked nice. What I like about them is that they are a most versatile pair. The Crown Princess has worn them with white pear-shaped pearls and black/gray round pearls. I still wonder what the red stone is.


Bobby

The red stone looks to be Rubellite (Tourmaline), affordable but a wonderful red colour!

 

[prince.of.preslav]

The red stone looks to be Rubellite (Tourmaline), affordable but a wonderful red colour!

Thanks for the reply! I had forgotten about tourmalines.

Which makes me wonder if we know about any other royal jewels with tourmalines? I can think of a full parure that used to belong to the Swedish royal family. Anything else?

Bobby

 

[Imdanny]

Okay Bobby hope this works and you can see the picture. It looks maybe diamonds, maybe art deco, not sure. Thanks


http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2011/07/11/duchess-of-cambridge-steals-the-show-in-hollywood-115875-23262579/

"Afterwards, actor Jason Bateman said: “William and Kate are like the ultimate movie stars.”

Sycophancy. You're doing it right!

 

[Imdanny]

Yeah, I know she is Scandinavian -- and looks it especially w/her tiara worn as she did -- that's what I meant. The earrings -- I wonder about the stone too -- could be rubies or garnets, possibly spinels but that would be somewhat unique.
--- Laurie

Aaaa I see now what you menat My apologies for the misunderstaning.

A ruby of that size in the Norwegian royal family? Even two... I don't think so. Garnets and spinels - possibly.

Bobby

I knew what you meant, Laurie. She looks like the Scandinavian woman famously painted by a famous painter. Oh, what is his or her name. I can't remember. But yes, I agree with you.

Hi, Bobby. All joking aside, your posts are phenomenal. I've decided I think you'd be a great diplomat. Not kidding. Also, you might consider writing a book about royal families and royal jewels. I have no doubt that, if you don't feel ready for such a project yet, it's something you could certainly do if you put your mind to it.

 

[prince.of.preslav]

Re: Queen Olgas rubies

Good morning Bobby,
I would like to ask you if you remember where you sourced the info on King Georgios I of Greece giving his Queen Olga the rubies.
As I would never have thought that he would have been wealthy enough to purchase the rubies. I always just assumed that the rubies came from either her wealthy parents or Tsar Alexander II or some other Russian close relative as a wedding gift. Or Perhaps his sister Dagmar when she was Tsarina gave them as a gift to George/Willy for his wife.

I have a few scaned pages from Point de Vue and Majesty issues about royal jewels from the European royal families. In the Majesty issue Lorna Hogg says: Perhaps the most romantic of the Greek royal jewels are in the set known as Queen Olga's rubies. It is a favourite of Queen Anne-Marie. For years, King George gave Queen Olga a rift of one ruby each year, to eventually make up this beautiful ruby and diamond parure.
The Point de Vue says: Ses deux ensambles les plus imposants, composés de grosses émeraudes cabochones des rubis sont toujours la propriété du roi Constantin II des Hellènes qui les emporta avec lui en exil en 1967. Le premier fit partie de la dot de la reine Olga, née grande-duchesse de Russie. Le sconde lui fut offert rubis après rubis, par son époux, le roi George Ier.

And here's another theory, which is more or less the same as yours -

Bjarne Steen Jensen was kind enough to post a response to my initial posting. Part of the parure may well have been a gift from King George I to his wife, but given the financial state of the Greek royal family at that time, the rest could have come from Russia.

The rest of the article can be seen here: http://royal-jewels.blogspot.com/2008/07/ruby-red.html

Although Bjarne Steen Jensen has writen an fabulous book about the jewels of the Danish royal jewels, I'm not sure just how accurate he is when it comes to the jewels of other royal families. As far as I know, he has met The Greek Queen and they have talked about the jewels she wears, but much she knows?
In the current parure there are 22 rubies in the necklace (full version), the two brooches and the earrings and at least 20 more in the tiara. Gifts from George I sound pretty possible because Olga was Queen of Greece for no less than 46 years - enough time to give 42 stones each year and to extend the parure. It is also possible, though, that the tiara (at lest) was a present from s.b. else (as you say either Olga's perents or other Romanovs), mostly beacuse it doesn't match any other part of the parure in terms of style.

Thanks for giving me an interesting thing to think about!

Bobby

 

[prince.of.preslav]

Hi Danny! Thanks for the really nice words!

Diplomacy and (more or less) politics have always been an interesting topic for me. Perhaps after I get my diploma in economy (or if I suddenly quit) I might go for a course in IR. BTW, I once considerd working in the British Embassy here, but that was briefly
As to writing a book -I have certainly thought about that, but I don't think I have enough knowledge for such a serious project. And what's more, the bulk of my info is from books/mags that are already published or from internet. I have thought, though, what I can do to intrigue the well-know royal jewellery authors (Munn, Field, B.S. Jensen) to publish their books in Bulgaria/n, perhaps with some additions.

And this made me remeber something of interest - there is a tv programe in the making about royal jewels from European royal collections from the time of Napoleon Ier till today. I believe some of the well-known participants are The Queens of Denmark, Sweden and Greece, The Danish Crown Princess, Prince Michael of Kent, maybe even his uncle and namesake Prince Michael of Greece&Denmark, who has written some interesting stuff about royal jewels.
I can't remeber more details, so if anybody remebers something else, olease feel free to post.

Bobby