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kiri2015

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I’m in the process of selecting two diamonds and could use your advice and guidance. My specifications are as follows:

Color: F and above

Clarity: VVS2 and above

Cut: Excellent and above


I’ve identified two diamonds:

1. GIA #7488563626


2. GIA #1478272757 (1.26 carats)



I’ve requested ASET and other performance images from the seller and am waiting for them. However, I don’t have much understanding of diamond performance or how to interpret ASET images.

Could you please provide any insights or suggestions about these stones based on their GIA reports? Also, any advice on evaluating performance and understanding ASET images would be greatly appreciated!

Thank you in advance for your help!
 
Here's the video of the second one, the first isn't available on Loupe360:

Loupe360

loupe360.com loupe360.com

And the two reports:
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I think you aren't spending your money in the right place with these diamonds. The first one has a shallow crown which can reduce fire and we don't have photos/videos/ASET to see how symmetrically it's cut. The second one has more promising proportions but unfortunately the video shows that the optical symmetry and other details of cut quality aren't great so we don't need an ASET to reject it. Not all GIA Triple Excellents are created equal, here's a video from Jann Paul showing the difference between a "super ideal" cut and a crummy GIA Triple Excellent with the same color and clarity:

A VS1 and almost all VS2s will be totally eye-clean. A G is very white. But the point of a diamond is to sparkle and these diamonds just won't sparkle as much as they could. It isn't the color that makes a diamond look bright, it's the cut quality. Targeting F-G, VS1-VS2 with superior cut quality is the way to go to have a good mix of high-quality color and clarity with maximum sparkle. Many people go to H-I-J color and "eye-clean" SI1 clarity to max out cut quality and size for their budgets.

If you want to buy on easy mode and really maximize the quality of your diamond, you could just get a "super ideal" cut like the good one in the video. Vendors for that include Whiteflash, Brian Gavin, Continental Diamond Legacy, Jann Paul, and Victor Canera. Otherwise you can post your budget here and if you live near any major cities and people who are more knowledgeable than I am can look online for you. Do you know what kind of setting you want? Some vendors are better for certain settings than others.
 
Is there a reason for such high color and clarity? If not I urge you to consider VS2 and G color, as ypu will be able to get a higher quality cut within budget. I don't think either of the ones ypu posted are ones we would recommend
 
newtojewels said:
Here's the video of the second one, the first isn't available on Loupe360:

Loupe360

loupe360.com loupe360.com

And the two reports:
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I think you aren't spending your money in the right place with these diamonds. The first one has a shallow crown which can reduce fire and we don't have photos/videos/ASET to see how symmetrically it's cut. The second one has more promising proportions but unfortunately the video shows that the optical symmetry and other details of cut quality aren't great so we don't need an ASET to reject it. Not all GIA Triple Excellents are created equal, here's a video from Jann Paul showing the difference between a "super ideal" cut and a crummy GIA Triple Excellent with the same color and clarity:

A VS1 and almost all VS2s will be totally eye-clean. A G is very white. But the point of a diamond is to sparkle and these diamonds just won't sparkle as much as they could. It isn't the color that makes a diamond look bright, it's the cut quality. Targeting F-G, VS1-VS2 with superior cut quality is the way to go to have a good mix of high-quality color and clarity with maximum sparkle. Many people go to H-I-J color and "eye-clean" SI1 clarity to max out cut quality and size for their budgets.

If you want to buy on easy mode and really maximize the quality of your diamond, you could just get a "super ideal" cut like the good one in the video. Vendors for that include Whiteflash, Brian Gavin, Continental Diamond Legacy, Jann Paul, and Victor Canera. Otherwise you can post your budget here and if you live near any major cities and people who are more knowledgeable than I am can look online for you. Do you know what kind of setting you want? Some vendors are better for certain settings than others.
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Thank you so much for taking time and replying to my question. Appreciate your feedback. I am looking for round stone between 1.10-1.30 carat with color above F and clarity above VVS2 and no fluorescence with budget between 8K-9K.
 
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Here's what I'd recommend. G and VS2 clarity are great, and this cut is best of rhe best
www.whiteflash.com

Diamond | 1.233 ct G VS2 A CUT ABOVE® Hearts and Arrows Super Ideal Round Cut Loose Diamond AGS Certified | 3063758

This Whiteflash A CUT ABOVE® super ideal cut hearts and arrows 1.233 carat G color VS2 clarity loose diamond is graded by the American Gem Society (AGS) Laboratories. | 3063758
www.whiteflash.com

But if you need the high color and clarity, this is a good choice
www.whiteflash.com

Diamond | 1.17 ct F VVS1 Expert Selection Round Cut Loose Diamond GIA Certified | 4596091

This fabulous 1.17 carat Round Excellent cut diamond has a clarity grade of VVS1 and color grade of F.It is an excellent choice for engagement rings. | 4596091
www.whiteflash.com
 
lovedogs said:
Here's what I'd recommend. G and VS2 clarity are great, and this cut is best of rhe best
www.whiteflash.com

Diamond | 1.233 ct G VS2 A CUT ABOVE® Hearts and Arrows Super Ideal Round Cut Loose Diamond AGS Certified | 3063758

This Whiteflash A CUT ABOVE® super ideal cut hearts and arrows 1.233 carat G color VS2 clarity loose diamond is graded by the American Gem Society (AGS) Laboratories. | 3063758
www.whiteflash.com

But if you need the high color and clarity, this is a good choice
www.whiteflash.com

Diamond | 1.17 ct F VVS1 Expert Selection Round Cut Loose Diamond GIA Certified | 4596091

This fabulous 1.17 carat Round Excellent cut diamond has a clarity grade of VVS1 and color grade of F.It is an excellent choice for engagement rings. | 4596091
www.whiteflash.com
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Thank you for the suggestion. I am looking for a specific configuration mentioned above as this is a gift to my mom and wanna make it special for her and hoping that she absolutely love it.
 
Remember that a G is still very white and a VS1 will be identical to an IF to the naked eye. Some VS2s may have inclusions you could see on close inspection so ask the vendor. Whiteflash will be honest.

Watch this video on the importance of cut over color:

A perfectly cut diamond is much prettier than a more poorly cut diamond, even if it has slightly lower color and clarity. It's very very special to have someone working so perfectly to make the diamond as sparkly as possible. Did you watch the first video I shared to see how big the difference is in appearance?

In addition to the Whiteflash options from @lovedogs, here are some options from Brian Gavin:

www.briangavindiamonds.com

1.23 G VVS2 Signature Round

Buy diamonds online - AGS Graded 1.23 carat G VVS2 super ideal cut Black By Brian Gavin Round Cut diamond. Lifetime Upgrade Policy!
www.briangavindiamonds.com www.briangavindiamonds.com

www.briangavindiamonds.com

1.13 G VS2 Signature Round

Buy diamonds online - AGS Graded 1.13 carat G VS2 super ideal cut Brian Gavin Hearts & Arrows Round Cut diamond. Lifetime Upgrade Policy!
www.briangavindiamonds.com www.briangavindiamonds.com

www.briangavindiamonds.com

1.117 F VS1 Signature Round

Buy diamonds online - AGS Graded 1.117 carat F VS1 super ideal cut Black By Brian Gavin Round Cut diamond. Lifetime Upgrade Policy!
www.briangavindiamonds.com www.briangavindiamonds.com

They're having a Black Friday sale too which will lower the price.
 
kiri2015 said:
Thank you so much for taking time and replying to my question. Appreciate your feedback. I am looking for round stone between 1.10-1.30 carat with color above F and clarity above VVS2 and no fluorescence with budget between 8K-9K.
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is it for a ring or a pendant ??
 
For a ring
 
lovedogs said:
The 2nd one is F/vvs2
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I really like this stone. Sorry for asking too much but how can I find options keeping my color and clarity along with hearts and arrows. Is thr a configuration I should use like table/depth/crown/Pavillion. I usually search in rarecarat and stonealgo. But is thr a better website to look for these high performance diamonds.
 
kiri2015 said:
I really like this stone. Sorry for asking too much but how can I find options keeping my color and clarity along with hearts and arrows. Is thr a configuration I should use like table/depth/crown/Pavillion. I usually search in rarecarat and stonealgo. But is thr a better website to look for these high performance diamonds.
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I was trying to simplify the process. If you go with any of the whiteflash in house diamonds they'll be top quality cut. That way you don't have to figure out the rest. Your budget will allow you to get a super high qyality stone.

But if you'd rather search, then I suggest reading the "education" section of the forum about cut
 
kiri2015 said:
I really like this stone. Sorry for asking too much but how can I find options keeping my color and clarity along with hearts and arrows. Is thr a configuration I should use like table/depth/crown/Pavillion. I usually search in rarecarat and stonealgo. But is thr a better website to look for these high performance diamonds.
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I listed the vendors to talk to in my first comment for a true hearts and arrows, super ideal cut diamond. You won't find a diamond this perfectly cut on RareCarat, even if you use good angles. For example, your 1.26 diamond has good angles, but here it is next to the 1.17 F/VVS1 from Whiteflash:

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newtojewels said:
I listed the vendors to talk to in my first comment for a true hearts and arrows, super ideal cut diamond. You won't find a diamond this perfectly cut on RareCarat, even if you use good angles. For example, your 1.26 diamond has good angles, but here it is next to the 1.17 F/VVS1 from Whiteflash:

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Seriously that Whiteflash Expert selection 1.17 F/VVS1 is so nice.... Medium Blue FL is like the cherry on top :)

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kiri2015 said:
What do you think on these 2 stones?


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The second one is $8920 and this diamond I linked earlier from Brian Gavin would be $8804 with the sale. I definitely wouldn't pay more for a JA stone than for a BGD stone of the same color and clarity. https://www.briangavindiamonds.com/...-23-g-vvs2-signature-round-bkags-104118614026

The first one looks nice. I would want the guarantee of Whiteflash or Brian Gavin personally, but I don't think that's a bad choice and it does save you a bit of money. We'll see what the real experts say. Some may not like the 41.0 pavilion angle but it has a 34 crown which balances it out.
 
Do you know what kind of setting you want?
 
kiri2015 said:
I really like this stone. Sorry for asking too much but how can I find options keeping my color and clarity along with hearts and arrows. Is thr a configuration I should use like table/depth/crown/Pavillion. I usually search in rarecarat and stonealgo. But is thr a better website to look for these high performance diamonds.
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Look at Whiteflash.com. They sell super ideal cut diamonds. You can search for color, clarity and carat weight. All of their ACA diamonds are super ideal cut.
 
kiri2015 said:
What do you think on these 2 stones?


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Overpriced for not having truly perfect optical symmetry.
Save yourself some coin by going with something like one of these:

www.jamesallen.com

1.16 Carat round diamond

This 1.16 carat round diamond G color vs1 clarity has Ideal proportions and a diamond grading report from AGS
www.jamesallen.com www.jamesallen.com



...Or press the easy button of diamond buying and go with a true super ideal cut that's highly vetted and assessed from Whiteflash, Brian Gavin, Distinctive Gem, Victor Canera, or JannPaul.
 
Can you please help me rate these diamonds?

4 diamonds from white flash in the pic

6 diamonds from James Allen

9 Brilliant earth Diamonds:



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All 4 of the whiteflash options are great. All of the brilliant earth options are bad (some don't have images to judge at all, but all of the ones i see aren't good).

The JA ones are fine, but the WF ones are better hands down
 
If there's a question on the Whiteflash ones, call them and have them compared for you. Whiteflash can tell you whatever you want to know about any of those diamonds including if one is a "low" G or a "high" G, etc.

Don't buy from Brilliant Earth, they're known for having quality issues with their settings.

JA #2 and #3 look worse to me than the other JA, but the Whiteflash diamonds are vouched for in a way that the JA ones just aren't. Unless the price difference is significant, it would be WF all the way.
 
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