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so how about this rhodo garnet? calling GYPSY!!!!! re GemSelect

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The #''s look all right the price ain''t to bad either. The thing about pics over the net is that what arrives at your door may look quite different. Often darker.
 
They are difficult to contact... and have no return policy as far as I've been able to discern. I don't think I'll take a chance on them again. Personally. I would ask for contact information and a return policy before another purchase. AND I'd wait to see what Gene and other's have to say about it's depth and so forth. I don't mind my 25 buck education. But well... I wouldn't do it again.
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ETA: I wouldn't by a VS from them. I saw a couple of VSes and I could clearly see the inclusions in the pics. I went with an IF stone and was happy with the clarity. VVS would be okay too. With that one I would ask if the color is constant throughout the stone. It looks like it's redder on one side and pinker on the other in one of the pics.


ETA, ETA: Mine was darker in person. I like the color very much... but it was much darker than it looked on the site.
 
Date: 7/6/2006 12:58:38 AM
Author: colormyworld
The #''s look all right the price ain''t to bad either. The thing about pics over the net is that what arrives at your door may look quite different. Often darker.
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Except for tanzanite! That always ends up so much lighter in person than in the photos.
 
Unless it is a reflection of the uneven surface the stone is sitting on, there appears to be a lot of silk-type inclusions in it. You should be able to get a clean rhodolite for that price.
 
This stone looks pretty typical of cheap Asian cut goods. Step cut facets on the pavilion are usually your first tip off that the cutting is poor. This type of cutting is done to maximize the yield with out concern for the finished product. The end result is usually a lopsided windowed stone.

If you look at this pictured, I have added some lines the show where the first 3 facet rows are. For garnet, none of these should be cut below 38 degress. These look to be maybe 10, 20 and 30, so what this is telling you is that these first 3 rows will window. Also notice the girdle line. Thick in some places and thin in others. This type of cutting they grind the girdle after the other cutting is done, to try to make the stone face up look oval.
The price isn''t bad. Decent Rhodolite should cost $45-$80 per ct. wholesale. So this stone is pretty cheap.

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Date: 7/6/2006 1:20:03 PM
Author: PrecisionGem
This stone looks pretty typical of cheap Asian cut goods. Step cut facets on the pavilion are usually your first tip off that the cutting is poor. This type of cutting is done to maximize the yield with out concern for the finished product. The end result is usually a lopsided windowed stone...Decent Rhodolite should cost $45-$80 per ct. wholesale. So this stone is pretty cheap.
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Good work Gene! It''s so hard to explain to customers why some stones of the same type cost more than others. Your image is an excellent visualization of why these stones are called "Bangkok Lens Cuts": they work better as see-through ''magnifying lenses'' than as reflectors, which they''re supposed to be
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There are two typical inclusions in pyrope-almandine aka "rhodolite." They''re called ''silk'' and ''sugar'' in the trade. The many ''sugar'' inclusions in this stone are easily visible as darkish spots in your image. I''d have to look up what ''sugar'' inclusions really are but their presence is typical in low-cost stones.

Rhodolite colors from one source to another vary a lot, depending on the the amounts of pyrope vs. almandine in the mix. Top quality well-cut stones have lots of ''pop'' and the color is vivid. There are good reasons this stone is selling at a low price.

Richard M.
 
cut can make or break a color stone....just like a diamond. doug and richard: your honesty regarding this stone is refreshing and educational for consumers wanting a quality stone. thank you.

movie zombie
 
Wow thank you again for your input, guys!
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It really is wonderful to see it on a diagram like that, it is perfect! So what is a poor, little consumer like me supposed to do!! Where will I ever find my rhodo? Can i find a 3-3.5 carat oval for around $100?
 
there is a stone for every budget......so, yes, you can find a stone for $100 but adjust your expectations accordingly. as in all things, you get what you pay for. gem quality rhod commands gem quality prices.

here's another source: http://www.ajsgems.com/GRO/GRO.htm i have not bought from them but i think they have an ok reputation and they are not high end.

movie zombie
 
I love this one! It is a heart.
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Date: 7/6/2006 3:02:08 PM
Author: movie zombie
cut can make or break a color stone....just like a diamond. doug and richard: your honesty regarding this stone is refreshing and educational for consumers wanting a quality stone. thank you.


movie zombie
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Ditto that MZ.
Thanks so much for sharing your expertise and EDUGMUCATING (yes I misspelled in on purpose) us. I think it is really cool to hear and understand the techinal side of it!!
 
thanks movie zombie for the links, I have looked at both of those sites before, but not recently. Anyway, any opinions on this one??? I am always worried about how the color will actually look in person!!

http://www.ajsgems.com/GRO/GRO-00084.htm
 
i think you can call them and talk to them? or send an e-mail. until you see it, you won't know. as long as there is a good return policy, its worth a look see if you feel drawn to the stone not just its price tag. remember: 9 times out of 10 the stone will be darker than the picture on the internet. it does not appear to have nearly the good color going as the 'heart' above and has a rather 'flat' appearance to my eye despite the faceting. by flat, i mean not lots of personality going on. however, you won't know until you see it.

movie zombie
 
good advice, MZ.

Precision set''s cutting looks very nice, ( in my very ammature opinion) yet there is no simple oval or cushion,heck, I would take a pear even! ) in my luscious rhodo garnet....wahhh wahh!!!
 
vendors often don''t have all their inventory on the internet.

vendors often have rough waiting to be cut.

contact precision and see what the possibilities are.

movie zombie
 
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