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Date: 6/24/2008 8:59:04 AM
Author: decodelighted
THANK GOODNESS she dumped the JERKO! Blech. I spent his whole segment noticing how he cannot even LOOK at her. He''s always looking away, opining on some kind of nonsense while she gazes at him adoringly. VOMIT.

I''m not worried that he''s the ''one she was falling in love with'' -- her mind was CLOUDED by his B.S. & brawn. Now that he''s gone it give her a chance to concentrate on the guys who actually DO give a damn & forget her stupid schoolgirl crush.

She was SO right when she said ''I can''t spend the rest of my life BEGGING him to love me.'' And AGH!!! I was so infuriated that he left her a NOTE. You manipulative, passive aggressive, self-absorbed BUFFOON!!! Let the girl GO. Get in or GET OUT. She could NOT have been more clear about how she felt and what she needed from you to feel secure ... and your cocky bad-a** self could NOT COMPLY. Because you are IMMATURE and RIDICULOUS. And totally not what she needs. AGH!!!!

Okay ... moving on (as I hope she does)

JESSE -- dark horse for sure but maybe his slow but steady progress might crest at the right time? He''s an attractive option. They seem so comfortable together - but have a spark. I dunno. I''m feeling this one.

JEREMY -- it worries me that she describes him as ''perfect'' ... the life, the condo, the connection with lost parents. it''s her head talking - not her heart. She didn''t know about the motorcycles ... the brothers were terrors ... his reserve scares me. I don''t see passion. I see safe/neat/seemingly perfect ... boring.

JASON -- it worries me that she felt like an ''instant family''. That''s not realistic. She might be projecting his feeling for his son onto his feelings for her & getting confused. Also, when they kiss -- its kind of gross. She backs a way a bit ... like she''s TRYING to like it, TRYING to be into it ... but ultimately not. Wrong reasons here. She wants kids, he has a kid ... she can picture that but can she picture waking up to him everyday? Can she picture a hot honeymoon? Ewwwwwww.

Do we know for sure she ends up with someone? If I had to guess right now I kinda wonder ...
I''ve noticed the blinking EVERY episode except for last night... weird.

Deco: You''ve read my mind. Everything about Graham, everything she said, and that stupid immature note. What a loser. If she actually believes what they had was "love" then I''m extremely worried. I''ve actually been kind of thinking that maybe she isn''t as ready for marriage as she says. She just kept a total tool around wayyyy too long, bc of what looked like a high school crush with an abusive boyfriend. (this was SO''s interpretation of why she kept giving him chances
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) And she wants 3 kids by 30?!? She''s already 26?!? Notice the only one she told that to has been the Dad (Jason)?? Talk about holding back...

Jesse: He''s obviously moving up, but the only person he could pass at this point is Jeremy. As for the fantasy suite that Deanna gives him, I think his response is a joke. The thing he has going for him, is that he lives an exciting life... but 3 kids in the next 4 yrs, no way!!

Jeremy: He came out strong, but what a disaster of a home visit. Talk about unwanted. His visit showed that he has been holding alot back as well. He doesn''t talk about his family either, or else she would have had an idea that his brothers were going to feel that way. I hate when the families show their dissaproval of the show and family member going on the show by treating the bachelor/bechelorette like crap.

Jason: He did everything he could, and Deco, you''re right, this would be her "ready made" family. It''s already started. But as far as families go, if you have to be plopped into a family, this is a great one! They have his best interests in mind, but they still trust him to know what his true feelings are. The entire visit I was smiling or crying. She loves that she knows he can love unconditionally. What bothers me... could he PLEASE put his hand somewhere other than her chin when they are kissing?!?!? Get a new move Romeo!!
 
Date: 6/24/2008 8:59:04 AM
Author: decodelighted
THANK GOODNESS she dumped the JERKO! Blech. I spent his whole segment noticing how he cannot even LOOK at her. He''s always looking away, opining on some kind of nonsense while she gazes at him adoringly. VOMIT.

I''m not worried that he''s the ''one she was falling in love with'' -- her mind was CLOUDED by his B.S. & brawn. Now that he''s gone it give her a chance to concentrate on the guys who actually DO give a damn & forget her stupid schoolgirl crush.

She was SO right when she said ''I can''t spend the rest of my life BEGGING him to love me.'' And AGH!!! I was so infuriated that he left her a NOTE. You manipulative, passive aggressive, self-absorbed BUFFOON!!! Let the girl GO. Get in or GET OUT. She could NOT have been more clear about how she felt and what she needed from you to feel secure ... and your cocky bad-a** self could NOT COMPLY. Because you are IMMATURE and RIDICULOUS. And totally not what she needs. AGH!!!!

Okay ... moving on (as I hope she does)

JESSE -- dark horse for sure but maybe his slow but steady progress might crest at the right time? He''s an attractive option. They seem so comfortable together - but have a spark. I dunno. I''m feeling this one.

JEREMY -- it worries me that she describes him as ''perfect'' ... the life, the condo, the connection with lost parents. it''s her head talking - not her heart. She didn''t know about the motorcycles ... the brothers were terrors ... his reserve scares me. I don''t see passion. I see safe/neat/seemingly perfect ... boring.

JASON -- it worries me that she felt like an ''instant family''. That''s not realistic. She might be projecting his feeling for his son onto his feelings for her & getting confused. Also, when they kiss -- its kind of gross. She backs a way a bit ... like she''s TRYING to like it, TRYING to be into it ... but ultimately not. Wrong reasons here. She wants kids, he has a kid ... she can picture that but can she picture waking up to him everyday? Can she picture a hot honeymoon? Ewwwwwww.

Do we know for sure she ends up with someone? If I had to guess right now I kinda wonder ...
I like Jesse, too. I totally agree with your assessment of Jeremy and I''ll be that she lets him go next week because she wants to let him go before he gets even more attached to her. Can you imagine being the "winner" and watching this week''s episode ... realizing that even though you "won", you were second choice because Graham, the freaking tool, was the one she was falling in love with? I just can''t see how a fairy tale ending is in the cards for her.
 
Date: 6/24/2008 10:52:47 AM
Author: mom2twogirls

I like Jesse, too. I totally agree with your assessment of Jeremy and I''ll be that she lets him go next week because she wants to let him go before he gets even more attached to her. Can you imagine being the ''winner'' and watching this week''s episode ... realizing that even though you ''won'', you were second choice because Graham, the freaking tool, was the one she was falling in love with? I just can''t see how a fairy tale ending is in the cards for her.
Mom2: I was thinking about this as well and it would be a GREAT discussion... if you ended up winning, would you want to watch the shows? Do you think it is necessary?
 
Date: 6/24/2008 10:59:25 AM
Author: meresal
Date: 6/24/2008 10:52:47 AM
Author: mom2twogirls
I like Jesse, too. I totally agree with your assessment of Jeremy and I''ll be that she lets him go next week because she wants to let him go before he gets even more attached to her. Can you imagine being the ''winner'' and watching this week''s episode ... realizing that even though you ''won'', you were second choice because Graham, the freaking tool, was the one she was falling in love with? I just can''t see how a fairy tale ending is in the cards for her.

Mom2: I was thinking about this as well and it would be a GREAT discussion... if you ended up winning, would you want to watch the shows? Do you think it is necessary?

if it was me, i definitely don''t think i could watch.
 
I think it would be easier for a guy to not watch than a girl to not watch ... it''s in our DNA, I think?! If I was the winner on ''the bachelor'', I would *totally* want to know what his thoughts were when choosing who received the final rose, you know?!
 
Oh, forgot to add ... DeAnna is obviously not the sharpest crayon in the box. She had no clue what the Space Needle was? Seriously? Oh, and who gives a 3 year old boy a freakin'' GOLF BALL as a gift when meeting him for the first time???!
 
Date: 6/24/2008 11:10:18 AM
Author: mom2twogirls
Oh, forgot to add ... DeAnna is obviously not the sharpest crayon in the box. She had no clue what the Space Needle was? Seriously? Oh, and who gives a 3 year old boy a freakin'' GOLF BALL as a gift when meeting him for the first time???!
I thought the EXACT same thing..*DUH*! I live in Canada, NEVER been to Seattle, but I still knew what the Space Needle was!! It will be down to Jermy and Jesse..however I don''t think she will end up with either. She will leave the show, and call up Graham, after reading his note. She wants HIM...nothing is going to change that really!!
 
Does anyone else think it''s weird that it seems like the biggest (and maybe only!) thing she and Jeremy have in common is the loss of a parent? Please don''t take me the wrong way, although I luckily have not lost a parent, I imagine that it is such a sorrowful experience that it would connect you to others who have gone through the same thing. But should that necessarily be a romantic connection? Or what you base a romantic connection on?

I like both Jesse and Jason and am also glad that the idiot Graham is gone! I mean really, she literally told you she needed you to open up, and you sat there staring at everything but her! Duh!
 
From Day 1, I could not figure out what her attraction to Graham was. I am glad he''s gone.

I am not too fond of Jesse - I just don''t see her with him long term.

Both Jason and Jeremy were my top two from the get go. Both of them are very handsome and appear to be nice, honest guys with a lot to offer. In the long run, I hope she chooses Jason. He seems to be the real deal aand appears to be serious about finding true love and marrying.
 
Did you ladies know he''s a model? Check out his website: www.grahambunn.com

I guarantee the ONLY reason he went on the show was to further his career!
 
Date: 6/24/2008 7:17:05 PM
Author: Sabine
Does anyone else think it''s weird that it seems like the biggest (and maybe only!) thing she and Jeremy have in common is the loss of a parent?
SO TRUE!!! And ... geez ... if she''s with Jeremy she doesn''t have ANY In-Laws (ha! could be good) but with Jason OR Jesse she''d have MORE family ... a MOTHER figure. Jesse''s was an only child ... his mother would bend over BACKWARDS for a "daughter" yanno??? That could be so healing for DeAnna. And Jason has a ton of family that already clearly like her (and weirdly LOOK like her).

Who else was SPOOKED when they saw pix of Jeremy''s MOM .... can you say DOPPLEGANGER for DeAnna!
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Yes!!!!!!! I am SOOOOOO HAPPY Grahm is gone. Ive got my Mom watching with me too and she can''t stand Grahm either.

Jesse is so sweet. Did you see next weeks preview? He''s not sure of going in the "fantasy suite" because he hasn''t met her Dad yet. I wonder how she will take that?

I LOVE JASON!!!! He had me crying while watching. I started to cry 2 times because of him. You can tell he is a true family man, and that is what Deanna wants. He seems so warm and loving.

Jeremy isn''t that bad, I can tell he cares about Deanna. But, do you notice how she said Jeremy is too perfect? She has mentioned this more than once, I think she is concerned about that.

I honestly think she is serious about finding someone. This was probably one of the best bachelor/bachelorette episodes I have seen thus far. Im so curious to find out what happens next!
 
blushing: If you go back and read the 3rd and 4th pages of this thread, you see all the dirt we dug up on him from searchig that webite.

I honestly think he couldn''t look at her bc he was laughing or something. Remember how he was smiling at the end when she didn''t pick him? Again... Tool.

Dreamgirl: I''m hoping that Jesse''s moral driven tactic is just a tease by the producers. I can''t imagine that going well for him at all.
 
DH and I have been watching for only the last 5 or 6 episodes so can''t comment on all the guys, but....looking at the last 4 contenders, it will be interesting.

Graham- So glad to see that idiot take a hike. He played hard-to-get for just too long and even after several prompts from DeAnna, just couldn''t/wouldn''t open up. It will be interesting to see/hear the contents of the letter he left. His mom was right up-front and honest in saying that none of his relationships have lasted longer than 4 months. I wonder why???NOT!!!

Jesse- definitely a fun guy, but what are his career plans after he''s too old to snowboard?

Jason- definitely a contender, but I''d like to know why the breakup with Ty''s mom? Is DeAnna going to be content being #2 in his life? It''s very clear that he loves his son and that Ty will always be his #1 priority.

Jeremy- What''s not to like there? Hmmmm...his brothers? They''re definitely watching Jeremy''s back. They were not really rude to DeAnna, but their approach could have been a touch more subtle. I''m thinking that there was heavy editing with these guys to make them sound more daunting than they really are. Jeremy is my pick.

Here''s hubby''s take: She will read Graham''s letter, and not choose anyone left. After the show is over, she''ll run back to Graham as he is really *the one*

My opinion of hubby''s view: If she runs back to Graham, she''s a total fool and will spend the rest of her days trying to squeeze info from him. Not a pretty picture.
 
Date: 6/25/2008 1:37:29 PM
Author: meresal
blushing: If you go back and read the 3rd and 4th pages of this thread, you see all the dirt we dug up on him from searchig that webite.

I honestly think he couldn''t look at her bc he was laughing or something. Remember how he was smiling at the end when she didn''t pick him? Again... Tool.

Dreamgirl: I''m hoping that Jesse''s moral driven tactic is just a tease by the producers. I can''t imagine that going well for him at all.

Thanks Meresal - I didn''t go that far back. My DH was actually the one who googled him because he knew this guy was an a**hole. I know - the laughing part made him look like a loon - the whole thing was obviously a joke to him. What a loser!!!
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meresal- Yeah, I don't see it going well for him at all by doing that. Maybe he just says this but then says something like "But, in this situation...Id like to spend more time with you...so yes!" lol

isaku-Oh God I hope she wouldn't do that. The relationship with Grahm would probably only last a month or less......he just doesn't seem serious about the situation.
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blushing- I couldn't believe him swaying there with a smirk on his face! I see Deanna noticed that too.
 
Date: 6/25/2008 2:44:11 PM
Author: isaku5
They were not really rude to DeAnna, but their approach could have been a touch more subtle. I''m thinking that there was heavy editing with these guys to make them sound more daunting than they really are.
Ya know ... looking back, I think they were DRUNK. They''re slurring their words a bit on the exit ... and kinda stumbling. I wonder if being on TV made them nervous and they overindulged?? Not an excuse at all but ... maybe they wouldn''t be like that MOST of the time. OY! I mean seriously "we''re not on YOUR side" ... why does there have to be, um, SIDES??
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Its a possible romance not a battle to the death.

Anyhoo ... I hope your husband isn''t right, Isaku! But the way she was acting I have my own suspicions in that direction. HOPEFULLY her feelings will change with the "Romantic Get-Aways" with the other dudes.
 
Date: 6/24/2008 11:27:02 AM
Author: beau13

Date: 6/24/2008 11:10:18 AM
Author: mom2twogirls
Oh, forgot to add ... DeAnna is obviously not the sharpest crayon in the box. She had no clue what the Space Needle was? Seriously? Oh, and who gives a 3 year old boy a freakin'' GOLF BALL as a gift when meeting him for the first time???!
I thought the EXACT same thing..*DUH*! I live in Canada, NEVER been to Seattle, but I still knew what the Space Needle was!! It will be down to Jermy and Jesse..however I don''t think she will end up with either. She will leave the show, and call up Graham, after reading his note. She wants HIM...nothing is going to change that really!!
Isaku5, your hubby is a smart man. Exactly what I predict will happen!
 
I couldn''t watch this show the night it aired because right now I have NO TV access...
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so I had to watch it the next morning online (thank you internet access). Here''s my take on things.

I know I may be in the minority here...
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, but...

In regards to Graham, just because he chooses to handle his emotions inwardly doesn''t mean he is a bad guy. DeAnna on the other hand is a very outwardly emotional person, and like she stated, wears her heart on her sleeve. Does she really want a man that really tells her what he is thinking? Good luck... I guess she''s been with so many men who don''t talk to her about things? I thought Graham told her that he liked her, didn''t want to be just another person she kisses, etc. I would be disgusted too kissing on someone who just got a tongue rammed down their throat - ewwww...
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And I think his response to not being called for a rose was nervousness. Yes, he is cocky, etc., but he liked her...not in the creepy way Jeremy does, but likes her nonetheless
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She keeps saying she knows what she wants, but again, I''m not so sure. Who''s to say their relationship wouldn''t have worked out? She is high-maintenance and so is he. She needs to be constantly reassured that someone is into her...why???

I truly think that if family is her priority, I think Jason is the way to go.

And yes, oh yes, DeAnna had a striking resemblance to Jeremy''s mother...which again, truly creeps me out.

In a short video interview with her she states that she is VERY happy with how things turned out (the results of the show).

I just don''t see her living in a snow cabin with Jesse. I really like him, I think he is very genuine, but I just don''t see them together.
 
Well, it''ll be on tonight...and I still have NO TV!!!
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I have to wait until tomorrow morning to watch it...
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I saw the preview with Graham being all nasty to Deanna...wonder what that was all about?

Any predictions who will get kicked off tonight?

I think Jesse is gone tonight...he''s a nice guy, but I just don''t see her living in his cabin with him and being content with that. She seems a bit high maintenance.

Have fun tonight guys...I wish I could post with the rest of you after everyone has seen it - I always post way too late to say anything relevant!
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I think it''s going to be Jesse and Jason in the final 2. I think Jeremy''s "perfectness" is going to be the dealbreaker for DeAnna ....
 
Date: 6/30/2008 5:04:01 PM
Author: mom2twogirls
I think it''s going to be Jesse and Jason in the final 2. I think Jeremy''s ''perfectness'' is going to be the dealbreaker for DeAnna ....

Wow - do you think Jesse stands ANY chance though?

I think his perfectness is going to be a deal breaker too...what''s up with Jason''s facial hair? He''s starting to get the "wet-rat" look we thought was gone...
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Date: 6/30/2008 5:00:32 PM
Author: Elegant
Well, it''ll be on tonight...and I still have NO TV!!!
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I have to wait until tomorrow morning to watch it...
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I saw the preview with Graham being all nasty to Deanna...wonder what that was all about?

Any predictions who will get kicked off tonight?

I think Jesse is gone tonight...he''s a nice guy, but I just don''t see her living in his cabin with him and being content with that. She seems a bit high maintenance.

Have fun tonight guys...I wish I could post with the rest of you after everyone has seen it - I always post way too late to say anything relevant!
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I am pretty sure that tonight is just the Bachelors tell all night.
 
Date: 6/30/2008 5:27:04 PM
Author: merrijoy
I am pretty sure that tonight is just the Bachelors tell all night.
If this is the case... then I predict that jerk Graham is going to make her cry. She cares waaaaay too much about him, and I think he will have turned into a vindictive little "pr*ck" since he got kicked off.

ETA: This comment was really dark. I apologize. It's been a looooong day. I promise to be more peppy later
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I have a TiVo-like recorder and I thought I saw two episodes coming on tonight. I think one is the tell-all and the other is the actual episode, kind of like two weeks ago when she had her recap show and then the actual episode...right? I think it''s two 1 hour episodes tonight! Lucky!

Correct me if I am wrong, please...
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Date: 6/30/2008 5:40:29 PM
Author: meresal
Date: 6/30/2008 5:27:04 PM

Author: merrijoy

I am pretty sure that tonight is just the Bachelors tell all night.

If this is the case... then I predict that jerk Graham is going to make her cry. She cares waaaaay too much about him, and I think he will have turned into a vindictive little 'pr*ck' since he got kicked off.

Oh - yeah - major pr*ck! Did you see the preview for the tell all? He wasn't a happy camper at all...and he was shaved too - he must have been reading this thread!
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Date: 6/30/2008 5:42:33 PM
Author: Elegant
I have a TiVo-like recorder and I thought I saw two episodes coming on tonight. I think one is the tell-all and the other is the actual episode, kind of like two weeks ago when she had her recap show and then the actual episode...right? I think it''s two 1 hour episodes tonight! Lucky!

Correct me if I am wrong, please...
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EVEN BETTER... the show and THEN the "tell all"!!!! Oooohh!!! This is going to be GREAT!!!
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Date: 6/30/2008 5:45:00 PM
Author: Elegant



Date: 6/30/2008 5:40:29 PM
Author: meresal



Date: 6/30/2008 5:27:04 PM

Author: merrijoy

I am pretty sure that tonight is just the Bachelors tell all night.

If this is the case... then I predict that jerk Graham is going to make her cry. She cares waaaaay too much about him, and I think he will have turned into a vindictive little 'pr*ck' since he got kicked off.

Oh - yeah - major pr*ck! Did you see the preview for the tell all? He wasn't a happy camper at all...and he was shaved too - he must have been reading this thread!
No I didn't... I have been really busy the last week, and I don't slow down the TIVO for commercials when I'm catching up on my shows at midnight.
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Haha, I wouldn't put it past Graham to have brought his own date!! LOL!!
 
Yes! A two hour episode confirmed! She will be talking to "the men she scorned" as the website puts it!

Okay - go to The Bachelorette Homepage, and on the bottom, click on the video of the "Diary of the Departed, Week 6" - it''s Graham reflecting! He looks like a simpleton. I think he spoke more in this segment than throughout the entire time he was there! He doesn''t seem all that too disappointed!
 
WOW..I was as shocked as he was, that she let him go! I won''t say who, in case it hasn''t aired there yet! I think Jesse will win in the end!! Good episode tonight!
 
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