The jury is in: Ebay diamond under Ideal-Scope!

[neatfreak]

Date: 1/23/2009 2:20:43 PM
Author: drewbot

Date: 1/23/2009 1:15:26 AM

Author: arjunajane

I didn''t lecture you, and I don''t recall saying I told you so either.

And I don''t see how my comments are any more damning than the rest in this thread?

I do agree you av is funny.

Sorry I didn''t mean to be so harsh. We''re cool, right?

So the guy offered to refund me 50% of my entire purchase. I''m going to send the stones back today, but in order not to make this more confusing than it shoul be, i''m going to run down exactly how messed up they got me.


I actually won 2 auctions, for 2 rocks, and with the intention of selecting one or none. Here is the short version:


What I was expecting, and how much I paid:

1.01 carat 6.25x6.25x3.95mm 63.2% depth ratio

1.03 carat 6.3x6.3x4.0mm 61% depth ratio

total cost to me $1511

approximate market value $6000

advertised market value $7000


What I actually got:

1.01 carat 6.0x6.0x3.95mm 68.3% depth ratio

0.343 carat 4.5x4.5x2.8mm 62% depth ratio

0.327 carat 4.5x4.5x2.75mm 61% depth ratio

approximate market value $1500 + $300 + 300 = $2100


So I paid $1511 and recieved $2100 worth of rough looking diamonds. The seller offered to refund 50% of my money. I could walk away from this for a total cost to me of about $750. I may not exactly have what I wanted, but should I take this deal as it was offered to me? I think I''m going to head down to fred meyers and see how nasty their $3000 rock is (and bring my Idealscope)


Thanks everyone! Boy is this fun

More pics to come!

I hope you are kidding about keeping them. $750 is much too much for these pieces of crap.

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 1/23/2009 2:20:43 PM
Author: drewbot

Date: 1/23/2009 1:15:26 AM
Author: arjunajane
I didn''t lecture you, and I don''t recall saying I told you so either.
And I don''t see how my comments are any more damning than the rest in this thread?

I do agree you av is funny.

Sorry I didn''t mean to be so harsh. We''re cool, right?

So the guy offered to refund me 50% of my entire purchase. I''m going to send the stones back today, but in order not to make this more confusing than it shoul be, i''m going to run down exactly how messed up they got me.

I actually won 2 auctions, for 2 rocks, and with the intention of selecting one or none. Here is the short version:

What I was expecting, and how much I paid:
1.01 carat 6.25x6.25x3.95mm 63.2% depth ratio
1.03 carat 6.3x6.3x4.0mm 61% depth ratio
total cost to me $1511
approximate market value $6000
advertised market value $7000

What I actually got:
1.01 carat 6.0x6.0x3.95mm 68.3% depth ratio
0.343 carat 4.5x4.5x2.8mm 62% depth ratio
0.327 carat 4.5x4.5x2.75mm 61% depth ratio
approximate market value $1500 + $300 + 300 = $2100

So I paid $1511 and recieved $2100 worth of rough looking diamonds. The seller offered to refund 50% of my money. I could walk away from this for a total cost to me of about $750. I may not exactly have what I wanted, but should I take this deal as it was offered to me? I think I''m going to head down to fred meyers and see how nasty their $3000 rock is (and bring my Idealscope)

Thanks everyone! Boy is this fun

More pics to come!

He is offering you a 50% REFUND??????

 

[Todd Gray]

This is a screen shot of the return policy as stated by the seller, I don''t see anything on here about 50%

 

[Lorelei]

Just thought I would throw this out there, how did you pay for the diamonds? Did you use a credit card?

 

[neatfreak]

Lorelei and Todd I believe the seller is offering a 50% refund but allowing OP to keep the stones. OP please correct me if this is wrong...

Although I agree that a full refund for returning the stones is a better option!

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 1/23/2009 5:14:59 PM
Author: neatfreak
Lorelei and Todd I believe the seller is offering a 50% refund but allowing OP to keep the stones. OP please correct me if this is wrong...

Although I agree that a full refund for returning the stones is a better option!

I may have got hold of the wrong end of the stick, thanks Neat for bringing that up, I could have misunderstood, that the seller would only offer a 50% refund on the returned rocks.

 

[Todd Gray]

Date: 1/23/2009 5:14:59 PM
Author: neatfreak
Lorelei and Todd I believe the seller is offering a 50% refund but allowing OP to keep the stones. OP please correct me if this is wrong...

Although I agree that a full refund for returning the stones is a better option!

That would be a lot better than what I thought I interpreted from the post! I couldn''t figure out why DrewBot was so calm

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 1/23/2009 5:22:13 PM
Author: Todd Gray

Date: 1/23/2009 5:14:59 PM
Author: neatfreak
Lorelei and Todd I believe the seller is offering a 50% refund but allowing OP to keep the stones. OP please correct me if this is wrong...

Although I agree that a full refund for returning the stones is a better option!

That would be a lot better than what I thought I interpreted from the post! I couldn''t figure out why DrewBot was so calm

LOL!! I must admit I was scratching my head over that too!

 

[Todd Gray]

Lorelei & Todd: "Burning Down the House!"

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 1/23/2009 5:29:18 PM
Author: Todd Gray
Lorelei & Todd: ''Burning Down the House!''

ROFL!!!

 

[platinumrock]

I''m so sorry that the stone is not quite what you expected. The good thing is that you can get a full refund.

How is it that the CZ looks better in the idealscope than the diamond?

 

[Tuckins1]

Yipes!!

Send them back with a quickness!!!!

 

[AprilBaby]

So now I am confused...he gets $750 back and gets to keep the stones? And WHY does he want to keep the stones and lose $750?

 

[neatfreak]

Date: 1/23/2009 6:03:10 PM
Author: AprilBaby
So now I am confused...he gets $750 back and gets to keep the stones? And WHY does he want to keep the stones and lose $750?

I believe because he doesn't seem as appalled by the stones as us. Thus, he wanted to know if it was worth it to keep them for half price? I think at least...not sure.

 

[Dancing Fire]

Date: 1/23/2009 2:20:43 PM
Author: drewbot


So I paid $1511 and recieved $2100 worth of rough looking diamonds. The seller offered to refund 50% of my money. I could walk away from this for a total cost to me of about $750. I may not exactly have what I wanted, but should I take this deal as it was offered to me? I think I''m going to head down to fred meyers and see how nasty their $3000 rock is (and bring my Idealscope)

Thanks everyone! Boy is this fun

More pics to come!

drew
why do you wanna torture us?

i told ya that you was gonna get a POS!!

 

[platinumrock]

Date: 1/23/2009 6:44:35 PM
Author: Dancing Fire

Date: 1/23/2009 2:20:43 PM
Author: drewbot




So I paid $1511 and recieved $2100 worth of rough looking diamonds. The seller offered to refund 50% of my money. I could walk away from this for a total cost to me of about $750. I may not exactly have what I wanted, but should I take this deal as it was offered to me? I think I''m going to head down to fred meyers and see how nasty their $3000 rock is (and bring my Idealscope)

Thanks everyone! Boy is this fun

More pics to come!

drew
why do you wanna torture us?

i told ya that you was gonna get a POS!!

I actually wanna see more!

It''s like a trainwreck. You know it''s bad...but you can''t help but look. And the fact that he has it on his avatar is just too funny.

 

[shady71]

Date: 1/23/2009 6:03:10 PM
Author: AprilBaby
So now I am confused...he gets $750 back and gets to keep the stones? And WHY does he want to keep the stones and lose $750?

I don''t think I could keep that stone if they PAID ME $750

 

[arjunajane]

Date: 1/23/2009 2:20:43 PM
Author: drewbot

Date: 1/23/2009 1:15:26 AM
Author: arjunajane
I didn''t lecture you, and I don''t recall saying I told you so either.
And I don''t see how my comments are any more damning than the rest in this thread?

I do agree you av is funny.

Sorry I didn''t mean to be so harsh. We''re cool, right?

So the guy offered to refund me 50% of my entire purchase. I''m going to send the stones back today, but in order not to make this more confusing than it shoul be, i''m going to run down exactly how messed up they got me.

I actually won 2 auctions, for 2 rocks, and with the intention of selecting one or none. Here is the short version:

What I was expecting, and how much I paid:
1.01 carat 6.25x6.25x3.95mm 63.2% depth ratio
1.03 carat 6.3x6.3x4.0mm 61% depth ratio
total cost to me $1511
approximate market value $6000
advertised market value $7000

What I actually got:
1.01 carat 6.0x6.0x3.95mm 68.3% depth ratio
0.343 carat 4.5x4.5x2.8mm 62% depth ratio
0.327 carat 4.5x4.5x2.75mm 61% depth ratio
approximate market value $1500 + $300 + 300 = $2100

So I paid $1511 and recieved $2100 worth of rough looking diamonds. The seller offered to refund 50% of my money. I could walk away from this for a total cost to me of about $750. I may not exactly have what I wanted, but should I take this deal as it was offered to me? I think I''m going to head down to fred meyers and see how nasty their $3000 rock is (and bring my Idealscope)

Thanks everyone! Boy is this fun

More pics to come!

Drew, I''m sorry but this is frustrating to watch.
These stones are not even worth $750, if infact that is what''s happening (its difficult to understand your post)..
This whole thing sounds like a total waste of time - and I for one don''t know anyone who has time and money to waste..

I sincerely hope you are not planning on presenting one to your GF - because I don''t like your chances.

I''m sorry, I''m not trying to be harsh or offend you, but it seems we are not getting through to you with politeness

 

[Dancing Fire]

i dare any of ya girls here to wear is stone for one month,and during that month show it off to your co workers and friends,also tell them that your hubby or your bf bought you this beautiful diamond ring. hmmm...wonder what kind of reactions/comments you will receive?

 

[platinumrock]

Date: 1/23/2009 7:12:57 PM
Author: Dancing Fire
i dare any of ya girls here to wear is stone for one month,and during that month show it off to your co workers and friends,also tell them that your hubby or your bf bought you this beautiful diamond ring. hmmm...wonder what kind of reactions/comments you will receive?

Awww...I kinda feel sorry for this stone. I know it''s a mutant...but it still needs love.

Remember, it didn''t asked to be mined, cut and released to the general public.

 

[suchende]

Sure, you could keep this lop-sided little guy and his friends, or you could take the refund and scoop someone''s cast-off off diamond bistro or some other second-hand source.

 

[AprilBaby]

ROFL!

"Awww...I kinda feel sorry for this stone. I know it''s a mutant...but it still needs love. Remember, it didn''t asked to be mined, cut and released to the general public."

I just find that quote too funny!


PS, how do I put the quote in a box?????

 

[:)]

Date: 1/23/2009 7:20:11 PM
Author: platinumrock

Date: 1/23/2009 7:12:57 PM
Author: Dancing Fire
i dare any of ya girls here to wear is stone for one month,and during that month show it off to your co workers and friends,also tell them that your hubby or your bf bought you this beautiful diamond ring. hmmm...wonder what kind of reactions/comments you will receive?

Awww...I kinda feel sorry for this stone. I know it's a mutant...but it still needs love.

Remember, it didn't asked to be mined, cut and released to the general public.

OMGROFL! (really really hard!)

Drew, you got a fantastic $750 avatar! Next time I would be happy to link you to free avatars and save you a few bucks!!

I didn't get the impression that he is actually going to propose with them, maybe he just wants to keep them because he thinks they are funny too? (I admit I also originally interpreted the return $/stones issue as Todd and Lorelei did, and was about to start yelling that the guy better refund ALL his money because the stones were misrepresented)


Aprilbaby, hit reply on the post you want to put in a box, then hit quote (in the upper L hand corner) and the box will appear for you

 

[diamondseeker2006]

Market value $2100? You''re just kidding us, right? If he''s "allowing" you to keep them with a 50% refund, the stones are worth a retail of $750 max. And I''d wager a bet that they aren''t worth anything, because I don''t think anyone would want them if they saw what they look like.

I''m still a little puzzled why you did this.

 

[Gypsy]

Trainwreck.

Scam.

Drew, return those peices of carbon for a full refund, please. For someone who was looking for a bargain and is on a budget to consider keeping these is mind boggling.

 

[arjunajane]

Date: 1/23/2009 9:11:37 PM
Author: diamondseeker2006
Market value $2100? You''re just kidding us, right? If he''s ''allowing'' you to keep them with a 50% refund, the stones are worth a retail of $750 max. And I''d wager a bet that they aren''t worth anything, because I don''t think anyone would want them if they saw what they look like.

I''m still a little puzzled why you did this.

I''m still alot puzzled..threads like this make my head hurt

 

[swingirl]

Get back your $750 and let us help you pick out something you''ll be happy with.

If the buyer is willing to sell you those for $750 so easily you can bet they are not worth half that. If he thought they were worth the price you originally paid he''d want them back to resell.

 

[platinumrock]

Date: 1/23/2009 9:10:31 PM
Author:

Date: 1/23/2009 7:20:11 PM
Author: platinumrock

Date: 1/23/2009 7:12:57 PM
Author: Dancing Fire
i dare any of ya girls here to wear is stone for one month,and during that month show it off to your co workers and friends,also tell them that your hubby or your bf bought you this beautiful diamond ring. hmmm...wonder what kind of reactions/comments you will receive?

Awww...I kinda feel sorry for this stone. I know it''s a mutant...but it still needs love.

Remember, it didn''t asked to be mined, cut and released to the general public.

OMGROFL! (really really hard!)

Drew, you got a fantastic $750 avatar! Next time I would be happy to link you to free avatars and save you a few bucks!!

I didn''t get the impression that he is actually going to propose with them, maybe he just wants to keep them because he thinks they are funny too? (I admit I also originally interpreted the return $/stones issue as Todd and Lorelei did, and was about to start yelling that the guy better refund ALL his money because the stones were misrepresented)


Aprilbaby, hit reply on the post you want to put in a box, then hit quote (in the upper L hand corner) and the box will appear for you

I was also thinking the same thing. I saw the humor in the situation when I saw his avatar. I think he was just having some fun with PS''ers.

 

[arjunajane]

Date: 1/23/2009 11:32:46 PM
Author: platinumrock

Date: 1/23/2009 9:10:31 PM
Author:

Date: 1/23/2009 7:20:11 PM
Author: platinumrock

Date: 1/23/2009 7:12:57 PM
Author: Dancing Fire
i dare any of ya girls here to wear is stone for one month,and during that month show it off to your co workers and friends,also tell them that your hubby or your bf bought you this beautiful diamond ring. hmmm...wonder what kind of reactions/comments you will receive?

Awww...I kinda feel sorry for this stone. I know it''s a mutant...but it still needs love.

Remember, it didn''t asked to be mined, cut and released to the general public.

OMGROFL! (really really hard!)

Drew, you got a fantastic $750 avatar! Next time I would be happy to link you to free avatars and save you a few bucks!!

I didn''t get the impression that he is actually going to propose with them, maybe he just wants to keep them because he thinks they are funny too? (I admit I also originally interpreted the return $/stones issue as Todd and Lorelei did, and was about to start yelling that the guy better refund ALL his money because the stones were misrepresented)


Aprilbaby, hit reply on the post you want to put in a box, then hit quote (in the upper L hand corner) and the box will appear for you

I was also thinking the same thing. I saw the humor in the situation when I saw his avatar. I think he was just having some fun with PS''ers.

Hrmm..well, I don''t see how he can have $750 of "muckin about" money, if the ering budget is ~$1500..?
I definately commend Drew for being able to laugh at himself - but I wouldn''t want anyone laughing at his GF is she wears these "diamonds"

Drew, I really hope you see the sense in what people are saying here and return them. Why on earth would a seller, who is presumable in business to make profit, sell you $1200 worth of "market value" goods at $750?!?..doesn''t add up right?
And yes, now I may be lecturing

But it comes from a place of wanting to help, honestly.

Please, return for a full refund and let the PS''ers help you buy something that will make you and your girl proud, and not just some shesiter slightly richer!

 

[drewbot]

Date: 1/23/2009 7:04:16 PM
Author: arjunajane

Drew, I'm sorry but this is frustrating to watch.
These stones are not even worth $750, if infact that is what's happening (its difficult to understand your post)..
This whole thing sounds like a total waste of time - and I for one don't know anyone who has time and money to waste..

I sincerely hope you are not planning on presenting one to your GF - because I don't like your chances.

I'm sorry, I'm not trying to be harsh or offend you, but it seems we are not getting through to you with politeness

Wow! So many good comments. I had to quote just yours arjunajane! You don't understand me very well- I will try to explain!

First, as for the other comments
(1) he is offering a 50% refund for me to keep the nasty things and I am planning on returning them for 100% refund tomorrow!
(2) i would never present one of these horrible things to my girlfriend, although she would accept anything (amazing girl, truely)

I admit that I was dead wrong: the market value is not measured by asking prices found online somewhere. True market value is what a marginal purchaser would pay for the things. Well I did a pawn shop tour today and found out what the marginal purchaser would pay. The answer? Well, it's pretty much nothing. I couldn't pay someone to take the thing! In fact, I learned more about diamonds! I found that the top view of the diamond tells only a fraction of the story. The girdle is thicker on one side than the other. It also has edges on it that don't look right. One jeweler thought it was a miner's cut. One clever jeweler figured out how it was repaired and I think he is right. Nonetheless, to the naked eye you may be able to trick the marginal K-mart romantic... but sitting against any decent rock there is no life in it.

And arjunajane- I can easily understand your perspective, but I will try to explain. I'm the type who owns an old volkswagon diesel. The type who makes things unnecessarily difficult. It's raining out, and my VW is in pieces- I'm taking apart my turbo and rebuilding the engine.. It's pointless- I can buy 3 good working cars for the price of rebuilding everything in my old VW, and at the same time avoid riding my motorcyle in the rain every day. I suppose I get some sort of sick satisfaction out of the journey- I even pay for it in time and money.

The $2300 ring that I bought for my girlfriend last year - well I got no satisfaction out of it. I gave it to her and it sparkled away- it did the job, and all I had to do was to foot the bill. She loved it, and I love her, so we're all happy... but... this time around I'm getting a high out of the whole procedure. In fact, I can't figure out a better way to make the ring itself special, not just the meaning behind it. We already have the most special relationship, and my girlfriend would easily accept a CZ- or just a band- but I want to get her a ring and I'm not going to pay someone to make it "special" for me. If this doesn't make sense, then I don't blame you... but I never claimed to be sensible.

And let me reiterate how grateful I am of you folks looking out for my well-being by giving me excellent advice and opinions. There comes a time when one must tally up the losses, hedge their risks and start focusing on the finish line- I admit that time had probably come about, oh, the day I recieved the Flea-bay diamond in the mail- perhaps, though, there is yet still hope for me.