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[Bella_mezzo]

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Sorry MissJ...

my bad day just got worse...pretty sure it is CD 1 here...

 

[Bella_mezzo]

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and the lady that found the keys, didn't find DH's keys, so he still has no idea where his keys are. What.a.day.

 

[LAJennifer]

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Hello ladies. I haven't posted in a while, but I've been lurking. Yay for the new BFPs! I think this group is overdue for a new string of BFPs.

DCGator - so glad you did the HSG. I am very hopeful for you these next few cycles. I had my HSG at the end of July - and while I didn't get a BFP at the end of that cycle, I did have some signs and symptoms I hadn't yet seen during my whole TTC journey (started summer of 2009). I noticed some cramping and a big temp spike about 3 DPO. Also sore boobies, fatigue and my first ever temp dip about 9 DPO (along with severe cramping - it woke me up in the middle of the night). I'm convinced there was fertilization, but trouble with implantation. I also had a mid luteal phase temp dip during the following cycle (along with midnight cramping). Also BFN. Oh well.

I'm also very glad your HSG wasn't too uncomfortable for you. Mine was agony. Serious agony! And I have a really high tolerance for pain. The doctor performing the procedure was in training and probably took about 4 times as long as it should have. The supervising doctor had to intervene on several occasions to help her out. My tubes were open, but the supervising doctor said there was something else in the uterus - he said his best guess were air pockets as they appeared to be moving about. He couldn't rule out polyps, though. However, the RE said she is comfortable with proceeding with treatment and she agreed they were most likely air pockets.

Ahh, the treatment (which I haven't yet done). I don't really care much for the RE as I don't feel she listened to me at all, she was completely uninterested in my charts (all normal, like clockwork, sustained temp shifts and 14-16 day LP), and her treatment plan is very aggressive. I was hoping to try a few rounds of clomid but she won't allow it. Her treatment plan is the same for anyone over 35 (I'm 37). Doesn't matter that my FSH and Estradiol are right smack in the middle of "normal".

I can either take it or leave it - no in between. She wants to do IUI with Clomid AND injections of Repronex. My insurance coverage is 50% and no one can tell me how much one round of IUI will cost. Basically, I am supposed to go in on cycle day 3 for an ultrasound (which are $90 a pop). Start clomid on cycle day 3. Come back in a few days later for another ultrasound (another $90) and start injections (no one can tell me how much Repronex will cost me - not even the pharmacy - they say they have to have the order in place before they can determine cost - can't even give me a ballpark figure). Continue monitoring with ultrasounds (can't tell me how many I will need - could be 4 or 10) and then get the trigger shot and IUI (which is $192 - not bad). I think they charge me for a "visit" every time I am to come in (about $100 something). Then I am to immediately start progesterone supplements after the IUI.

I am very hesitant to proceed with this treatment. 1) Scared of over stimulation and winding up like Kate Gosselin. 2) Spending an unknown amount of $$ for 17% - 20% success rate. 3) If my problem is implantation, this doesn't fix it and is wasted $$$.

I just don't know - what would you guys do? I am with Kaiser and will be until December 1 (currently on COBRA and will go on DH's insurance on Dec. 1). At that point I will go back with UCLA, but I will have no infertility coverage - though they may be more accommodating with their treatment options. Currently on cycle day 8. We will BD this cycle and maybe do the medicated IUI next cycle (I will only have 1 more cycle until the insurance switch).

Last cycle we tried sperm meets egg plan - BFN. Not sure how to BD with regards to DH's sperm. Morphology is GREAT! Motility is pretty good. First count was 25 million (abstaining 3 days) and second count was 100 million (abstaining 4 days). However, his volume was low both times - just a little over 1 ml.

I just don't know.

 

[LAJennifer]

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Steal - I also wear the 30 day and night lenses. They are the BEST!!!! I'm bad though - I usually leave mine in for 60. Which eye drops do you use? My eyes are usually really dry in the mornings.

I think I read that you are trying the soy supplements. I have done that on several cycles. I never got a BFP, BUT I noticed that I didn't get the usual Luteal Phase Acne breakout during my soy cycles. Definitely a plus!

 

[Ryan Claire]

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Hey ladies - sorry I am not keeping up with the flow of convos these days. To be totally honest, when I started posting on this thread I was so excited and learning so much. I was charting, trying supplements, experimenting with OPKS, CBEFMs, Instead cups... and it made me really happy to have a community of ladies to share that journey with... but since I don't ovulate on my own and have graduated to the RE, this process is more about waiting, shots, dr. appointments, and disappointment - with a small dash of hope sprinkled in there. So since TTC is kinda a downer for me now, I feel like I am a downer and I find it harder and harder to find the motivation to post. I still check in on everyone all the time and hope for new BFPs everyday, but I am sorry I am not as active as I feel like I should be. I think this board is great and it's really nice to have the new blood around here. I share people's genuine enthusiasm for learning about their bodies and their excitement to be parents, I am just feeling a little jaded... (and even as I indulge in this pity party I am reminded that women have had it much worse than me - my own sister is starting her 5th IVF cycle in Oct.... so perspective is everything I guess)

With that said... went to the RE on Tuesday. I have a small cyst on my right ovary left over from the meds and will wait until Oct. 4th to start my new cycle. So although I am CD9... for the dr. I will be CD1 on Oct. 2... So I guess I am CD-8??? I am starting a new medication, Menopur, and hoping that change will help make IUI#3 the last one. If not, I will try to get on DH insurance during open enrollment so we can consider IVF in the new year...

Bella - really hope it was not AF knocking... what an all around horrible day for you and your DH. Lots of hugs coming your way. For you and for DC, I really can't fathom how frustrating it must be to be doing everything right and not getting that BFP... Take care of yourself and let us know what's up when you have a second.

DC - sorry I am late to the party, but so glad the HSG went well. Hopefully your uber fertile post-HSG body will be all the push you need to get knocked up. Fingers crossed for you. I can't believe you are already 6dpo... almost half way there... the 2ww is always soooo long.

LAJenn - so sorry your RE was so dismissive of your charts and numbers... I hate that. Mine is pretty much the same way, and although I know she is a good dr. I wish I didn't feel like case #257. I was able to do 3 rounds of unmonitored clomid with my OBGYN. If you are feeling like the treatments are too aggressive, then perhaps you can see about doing Clomid with your OB (although most people warn against doing unmonitored clomid, for good reason). If not, I would definitely try to get a better idea of the cost of a cycle - monitoring, blood work, procedures, tests, etc. Unfortunately, they do not know how you will respond to the meds (will you need to stim for 8 days or 14? need 4 ultrasounds or 6?) so they are not gonna be able to give you exact numbers. Do you have the money to move forward? If you do, and it were me, I would go for it. It may feel like zero to sixty right now, but if you are still not pregnant in a few months, I think you will be glad you didn't take a more modest approach. But again, that is just me. You were the one who had a horrendous time getting started with Kaiser, correct? Glad you are finally moving forward and good luck with your decision.

Steal - so bummed for you Really was hoping that you would be leading the BFP charge. I am sure it's been tough, but glad you are able to have a sense of humor about it all. Hope the soy helps - definitely keep us posted.

MissJ - so sorry about AF! Hope this next cycle is it for you.

LTP - congrats on AF... I can only imagine the relief. Glad you body is cooperating and you can move forward. Good Luck!

Gaby - sorry about the wonky cycle... hope the next one is shorter.... or lasts 9 months!!

Charbie - thanks for thinking about me... SOOO glad you and your hubs won't be doing the long distance thing for much longer. You guys must be so ready for that change.

Modern - love the stowaway! Glad you had a great vaca...

Kennedy - wow you are good at holding out... I have no will power when it comes to poas. Good luck!

Sorry to anyone I missed - gotta run to work but lots of luck ladies...

 

[CDNinNYC]

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Just popping in to say !

I'm running off to work now but I'll pop back in a little later to write a more detailed post. Hope you're all doing well!

 

[missjaxon]

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Sorry MissJ...

my bad day just got worse...pretty sure it is CD 1 here...

Awww I am so sorry. Looks like we are cycle twins! That is too bad that mean AF had to come and make an already bad day worse for you . Nothing like cramps and feeling like crap to rub it in..... just one of those days.

 

[modernsparkler]

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Bella- Sorry about CD 1 and the horrible day! Hugs to you! Hopefully DH found his keys. Sometimes I wish I could put some of DH's stuff (keys, wallet, phone) on GPS locators to help him find them.

LAJennifer- So sorry to hear about your ordeal. It seems like the RE is being aggressive, but with the ultimate goal of getting you KU ASAP in mind. I cant believe they are being so mysterious about cost though. Maybe try calling a few outside pharmacies to see if they can tell you the cost or looking online.

RC- Good to see you back here. I hope that IUI #3 works its magic for you!

Miss J- Boo for CD 1

 

[Dreamer_D]

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LAJennifer I am not in your shoes, so take what I say with a grain of salt, but I think that I would go forward with the RE's recommendations. Surely she adopts this approach for a reason, and as long as you trust that she is a reputable and well respected RE, then I personally would put my trust in her recommendations. Of course, if you do not trust her reputation and success rate, or she has an unusually high rate of higher order multiples, that is another issue, and perhaps seeing another RE is a good idea? (forgive me if I don't recall all your story). But I sort of think sometimes it is a good idea to turn over decision making to experts in areas where I know that my knowledge is simply much much less than theirs, and in this case, I would feel that way about my fertility knowledge compared to that of an RE. On another note, I think all doctors are dismissive of charting. My midwife even was sceptical, and the OBs did not give a fig. I think this is because they are not all that helpful for predicting the types of things that the doctors want to predict, even though many of us like to make them.

MissJ and Bella [[[HUGS]]]

RC Good luck with this round!

 

[Laila619]

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LAJennifer, I too would go with your RE's recommendation. It's not like it's an absolute that you will have multiples first of all--based on ultrasound monitoring I had 3 mature follicles, but am only pregnant with a singleton! I was worried about having twins or more. You don't have to go through with the IUI if you have more follies than you feel comfortable with. Also, your RE can monitor and tweak your dose if you respond too quickly or make too many follies (but since you don't have PCOS this probably won't happen). I personally would rather have an aggressive RE than one who doesn't want to try anything new! Good luck!

And by the way, I think a lot of REs are dismissive of charts. I had textbook cycles of 29 days, with a luteal phase of 14 days, and O on day 15 basically every single cycle. Completely normal FSH and other blood work. Yet every time I was at the doctor, I remember they would just assume I don't ovulate on my own and that that's why I was there. I had to basically remind them every time that wasn't the case, lol.

 

[Po10472]

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Morning ladies

I read what's going on everyday and love the articulate and thoughtful posts on here and how everyone is able to follow the flow of the conversation and it impresses me. I find tho that I'm often a late visitor or a fly-by guest and always playing catchup on the conversation and it frustrates me a lot because when I come to put my thoughts down in writing I can't seem to articulate what I want to say. So I've been doing some thinking, why do I feel like this on this thread and not on my babycentre forum and I realised that it's the time difference. Sounds strange I know, but I'm up and motoring, its 7.30am here in Scotland and I'm posting, half asleep and rushed usually and reading what's been posted whilst I was asleep, I post, then go off for the day and by the time I come back, I'm reading what I've missed again, rinse, lather repeat. So everyone has said their piece and it's on to a new topic possibly so when I post it's like, eh........what will I say........that's just been said no point repeating.......ocht I'll put something really banal and boring down that brings nothing to the party.

Now I've just finished typing this and it's just occured to me that it's quite pathetic and looks like I'm feeling sorry for myself - I'm not, I'm just reflecting on how I must come across on here which was triggered by Ryan Claire's post and where I feel exactly the same way as she does - jaded. And the comments from you Steal about the drive by bfps, you took the words out my mouth, it's like a kick in the stomach and can seem inconsiderate but it's not, we're just all too emotionally involved and perhaps don't see things as clearly as we should when we're feeling what we're feeling. We all share our experiences which is amazing and the advice and experience of others is second to none but we all share the same frustrations and get fed up for each other and although we touch base every so often, sometimes it's all a bit too much to put it into words.

Blimey, I'm depressing myself, see this is what I'm talking about, I'm now thinking, what do I say now.........so I'll finish with my usual update..........currently CD15, on my second peak and 0-1dpo. Have had really bad ov cramps from both sides this cycle, which I don't usually have and had lots of ewcm, more than normal. So the BD marathon has started and I'm hoping that I get my elusive BFP in October. I'm going to slowly back out the door and slip off without too much embarassment.............

Have a good day everyone.

Po
x

 

[Steel]

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Gaby: What a sh1tty rollercoaster. I’m so sorry you had your hopes raised by a crappy too long cycle. You were braver than I have been in your ability to sit and wait, I on the other hand posted my shame and have dried egg on my face and a bruise on my tush from my own foot. If you feel like I did, I am very sorry and very empathetic. Is the game really over for this month? I hope if there is a little window left for you this cycle that your BFP creeps through it.

Bella: Good grief. What a strange couple of days. I hope that the keys were found or that the dealership were happy to give you DH spares. It is sooooo typical that your Title was in the glove box. But what I am really happy about is your 1st anni. Well done and so many congratulations to you and your husband. Many many more! And I expect that by your 2nd anni there will be a baby bella in the house dirtying up all those gorgeous nappies. I wish you nothing but happiness in the midst of this week of crap!
Oh crap, is that witch back. What the hell! Say it isn’t true.
Good grief – they weren’t even his keys!!!!!! (I am so trying not to laugh because I know that would be mean and I don’t want to upset you but this key fiasco is EPIC )

KTF:

Kennedy: Did you succumb to the POAS temptation?

Charbie: Well done for surgery. I am jealous. I’m sure it did not have anything to do with the miscarriage – just a poor coincidence. I’m happy with the 30 day/night at the moment but am itching to get it done. Funny thing is if I knew it would take so long to conceive I would have done it in January. Anybody got a spare crystal ball? I don’t use FF either – it scares me. I rely on the OPK’s and EWCM not temps – I wake up so often at night I couldn’t get a clear temp reading anyway. Im so glad your DH is moving home! It sucks to be apart. Dust to your friend; may she have an effortless birth when the day comes – I’d love to hear if she does have a boy in the end!

Dreamer & Laila: Love to see your advice - please keep posting over here!

Dcgator: No headache or hot flash issues with the SI. But TMI alert: I spotted with fresh blood for almost 2 extra days with mild cramping this month –unusual for me – should I chalk it down to SI, who knows? Do I take it that you are also visually challenged! Us four eyes gotta stick together. The contacts are great but I am still tied to the little bottle of comfort drops to stop my eyes drying out. Oh that is sexy! I should remember to tell DH that when I want to get him in the mooooooooood. Good grief. No weekend plans, was as sick as a dog this morning and DH is working so boo all round. Hope you are enjoying your family visit. All the best! Ps. thanks for updating the list.

Missj: Awh, sorry to see you go but so happy to hear about your upcoming nuptials: you know we love a wedding here! Best wishes to you for the big day and I look forward to seeing you soon. Though you are right, I hope we can all support you from the preggo thread – thanks for saying that. I’m sorry about AF….Boo.

LAJen: Long long long time no see. Did you consider a second opinion? While I agree with Dreamer, RC & Laila and certainly do put my own blind faith in people who have trained to become specialists in their field, I am not a mushroom and cannot be kept in the dark. I need info about my health and my treatment and for heavens sake about the cost. I get her 'my way or the highway' approach but you are not a number. So based on the snippedt you wrote (not including the bit about charting) I would try to see another RE – you need to know why you are on treatment why they are suggesting that treatment and how much it could cost. I don’t understand your insurance plans so I can’t help there, sorry.
I use “Comfort Drops” by “Sauflon” in a handy 15ml bottle. Heaven! About the SI – I’m just desperate and I’ll freely admit it. I’m this - - close to putting a wooden spoon and baby outfit under my pillow…. Know any other old-wives-tales that might work?

RC: Thank you for the support. I have my sense of humour only because I'm so sad about it. I’m sure we all are but, nobody wants to read that sadness much less write it.
I get a little lost on what you write so if you ever wanted to explain a little more I would love to learn.
I wish you so much dust for IUI #3, when will that be? You know that I’m in lrish? Our health insurance is €990 p/p per year which gives us a semi private room in a private hospital and private room in public hospital and pretty much every operation or treatment is covered without an excess or just a small excess. But we get zero infertility help. Prices are from €4.5k per IVF / ICSI. I don’t know what we will do if we need intervention.
The best of luck too, to your Sister for October.

PO: Happy BD’ing. Hope you caught the egg and get your BFP for October .
When I’m online I usually hear crickets too but I just read what happened when I was asleep and post when I have time. It doesn’t matter if you are the 1st or last person to reply to something, we all seem to care what the other thinks so post away. We are very involved on this thread, no question about that and IMVHO it is because of that, that posters should try to be considerate.

RC & PO (again): I have thought about giving up on this thread more than once and it is usually after another BFN. I like that other forums have different sections and have toyed with the idea of setting up another thread (ideally a private thread) but we are all in such different circumstances that somebody would always end up in a group of their own. Between the TTC >6months, <6 months, >12 months, TTC with assistance and all of the different types of assistance and testing who could keep up with the threads? So for better and worse we are together. Nobody expects everybody to post every day and nobody wants to be the last one here ( ) so I have concluded that we just make the best of it. Few people IRL want to share this stuff and fewer still have anybody they want to share it with without the follow up questions – ohhh are you preggo yet; Grrrrr! So we have what we have and it is what it is – not perfect, annoying at times but its here and for me - I can let my crazy out.
I just wished that TTC was based on time served.

CDN: Great to see you popping in. I think about you often.

Modern: Hi .

AFM: Feel so crappy today, felt sick from the moment I got up and wanted to simply keel over. Getting better now but the dog is just looking at me with pure hatred. I usually walk her after I deal with the hens but I was so woozy I just came back in and went back to bed so the poor girl was sooo close to walkies and got nothing.
Apart from that we ordered our garage door. It is a huge step for us in the world of DIY-Housebuilding-oh-my-God am I still building. We hope to have all downstairs floored hopefully with doors hanging on the walls (!) Christmas but all our tools plus the ride on mower plus about 3000sqft of wooden floor (in boxes) is blocking us from completing our master bedroom, closet and formal reception room. Until we can blow the hole out for the garage door (you will remember we lived in the garage for almost 2 years - so there is no opening for the door yet) we can't move that crap into the garage and we can't do it without the door arriving as it will all get stolen. So we have had to save for the damned garage door and finally we have the money saved and the door is ordered - 1 month lead time. As the upstairs in the garage will be DH's hobby room the garage door had to be insulated ( ) we could only choose from 2 doors. The 1st was a sectional door (think the Georgian type panel doors which go up and over to lay flat against the ceiling) and 2nd the traditional roller door which rolls into a coil above the door. I wanted the former but it would get too banged up with all our DIY so I choose the roller door. The bonus of the roller door over the sectional is that it is fully automated and who doesn't love a gadget?
CD7 + deposit paid on garage door. Should I stop the SI now?

 

[Steel]

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Why are the topics all squished up on the forum pages?

 

[Bella_mezzo]

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Holy moly Steal-That is one heck of a post! Good for you!!!

Yeah, the key thing was EPIC for sure. We got new keys made yesterday, paid a ton of $ to get our car out of the tow lot, and are all set now but it was not a fun couple of days! DH is going to have to replace the rest of his keys this week.

CD3 here and AF is not my friend! She brought her friends migraine and evil cramps with her. So.not.cool! Also, (totally TMI) the first day was kind of old and brown which is unusual for me, so I'm not sure what that's about. DH is interested in getting tests done (SA for him, HSG for me, and blood work for both) in Nov/Dec if we're not pregnant by then and I am totally up for that.

I debated a lot about whether to post this here, but I kind of feel like you are "my people" now so here goes, we started the adoption process Thursday (totally the silver lining to that crappy crappy day!). Our initial application has been approved and we are now completing the long form legal application and beginning the serious paperchase! It's a relatively long process (probably 9-18 months), so if we are so blessed as to get pregnant along the way, we would put the adoption on hold until at least 6 months after delivery. Hopefully, one way or another, by the end of 2011 my nappy collection will have a gorgeous model to wear them every day ***We have known for a while that we wanted to adopt regardless of whether we could have children through pregnancy or not. I am not recommending or suggesting that anyone else should go this route. I'm not planning to talk about this a lot (if at all) on this thread, but since it is such a big deal for us and relates to our TTC process I decided to post about it today***

Steal, Po, RC-Huge hugs and I really hope that you each get some good news soon!!!!! I hear you on the frustrations of this thread sometimes. I like that it is mixed b/c I think it's a nice perspective, but it sucks to feel like the old maid of TTC while drive by BFPs and jerkstores pop out of no where. At least, that's how I feel sometimes. (Po I look forward to your posts, and can only imagine how the time difference can make you feel out of the loop! I am on east coast time in the US and sometimes I feel out of it on threads that are dominated by time zones on the west coast, or other countries....)

LAJen-I would go with your REs recommendation too, provided you like them and they are well regarded. But, I would also prefer to have 6 kids than 0 kids , so although it's not my ideal scenario at all, I would be ok with a reasonable risk of multiples.

DC-big hugs to you too! Hope the HSG did the trick and that this is it for you guys!

MissJ-Yep, we are totally cycle twins!

Gaby-hope you are doing ok. I hate long tricky cycles!

to all the other lovely TTC ladies, I kind of hate new PS...it's a pain to scroll through the old threads...but know that I am thinking about you all and wishing you tons of dust!!!!

 

[Steel]

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Bella: ***takes bow***
I always post more when DH is away. Plus I'm sick today so my bum is sitting on this chair with nothing better to do... do dum, hoo hum!
I am almost jealous that you have decided together, to get the tests done. I hope you get your BFP next cycle but it must be so great to know that you have a plan. Speaking of a plan. You have mentioned before, your plans to adopt and I don't see it as any kind of a knee jerk reaction. From Blackberry's thread I know that there are women on PS who will have great advice for you if you want it but from what I saw, they will advise you about the dangers of progressing both plans at the same time. For me, I dont have any relevant experiences and totally think you are following a great path. DH and I have done more than lightly discuss adoption ourselves. Well done to you both for getting the application started. Whichever way you guys are blessed, your child(ren) will be so well cared for and much loved. Who should argue with that?
Boo to that bitc- (ooops sorry) witch, AF. Sorry Bella, I really am.
Enjoy your weekend and for goodness sake put a spare car key in a hide-a-safeplace!

Carry on.

 

[Dreamer_D]

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Bella Are you pursuing domestic adoption? Congrats on getting started!

 

[Bella_mezzo]

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thanks ladies!!!! (Steal, I know, I am a PS addict when 1. DH isn't home, 2. DH is watching football (like today) or 3. when I am bored at work

Steal-Hope you feel better soon!!! About the tests, DH was into it, then not into it, now he's pretty sure. At first I wanted them but then I was ambivalent (b/c we're probably not going to pursue IUI or IVF) but now I am pretty sure, so it's nice to be in the same place

DD-we're pursuing adoption from Ethiopia, but we're open to domestic adoption too. We'd prefer a child under 24 months (who could wear my nappy collection for a little while but we're open to a child under 36 months or a sibling group under 48 months, so we'll see what happens...I'm sure it will be a really big adventure no matter how it plays out

I've gotten great advice on both sides regarding adoption, and TTC and adoption. Dh and me, and our agency, are comfortable with us TTC as we are (just BDing w/TCOYF tricks, but no drugs or medical assistance) so hopefully it will be a good balance for us!

 

[dcgator]

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Good evening ladies,

Wow, what a chatty weekend, I love it! I usually don't post on the weekends because I am in between mulitple football games, but since I am watching the game at home with the family, I thought I would catch up

Bella - Thanks for the well wishes, I hope the HSG worked too! What a mess to deal with the towed car and lost keys to boot. Ugh! But, at least you got another key for the car, so that's good. I am also sorry to hear about AF. I swear, she always like to make such drama when she comes. Why can't she just be demure, like a lady? As for the adoption thing, don't feel bad about mentioning it here, I think that's awesome for you and your DH! You seem pretty open to all your options, so hopefully that will make the process that much easier.

Miss Jaxon - We will miss you while you are gone, but I am sure you will enjoy your wedding and all the other post-wedding activities Sorry about AF, but hopefully it will be next month for you. Enjoy your time off and we will see you in October!

LA Jenn - Thanks for the well wishes. I have also notices a couple different symptoms, but I am hoping that the progesterone I took last cycle and this cycle will help with implantation. Fingers crossed I am sorry that your HSG was so crappy too. Boo. As for the RE, I think that if you are not comfortable, then you shouldn't feel that pressed to do something. However, I imagine that her aggresive methods are probably justified in your case, not just her trying to be aggresive for no reason. Three things though; 1. My RE says that with monitored cycles on Clomid with less than 4-5 eggs, the chance of twins is about 7% (With more than 5 eggs, they will cancel the cycle. 2. I also ovulate normally, but my RE wants to do Clomid too. I am also a bit hesitant, but I trust them not to do anything too crazy. 3. Finally, the whole thing can be quite expensive, so if your current insurance will pay for 50% of it now, then I so go for it. Again, these are just my thoughts, notes, so take them with a grain of salt. But, at the end of the day, if you end up with a little one, that's the ultimate goal, right? Whatever you decide, we will be here for you

Ryan - Don't ever feel bad about coming up here for support only, we all need it. Plus, I don't think you are a downer, you are Ryan Claire, and we love you, so don't stop posting, ok? As far as the impending IUI goes, sorry about the cysts, but it sounds like you have a good plan of action. I wish you lots of luck for the new cycle on Oct 2nd and hang in there hun, you know what they say about the third time...

CDN - Hi back

Po - Same to you about not feeling bad about posting. So you are a little behind, ah, it happens. I don't post everyday either, so I feel like I have to go back to conversations a lot. But, I think we all do that. So just hang in there and keep doing what you are doing. We enjoy you here and think you have a lot to add to the convo. I really hope you catch your eggie so that we can prove that fortune teller right next month

Steal - Wow, that is one heck of a post, cheers indeed. Yes, I am a contact girl too. I have had glasses since I was 5 or 6, so it's been quite a while. But I prefer contacts anyday over glasses. Sorry that you feel like crap, I hope its a fast moving bug and will leave you alone. That's crazy about all the do it yourself stuff. Good for you and your DH! I hope you guys can finish up soon. Good luck with the house and this cycle.

*****
AFM - I am hanging in there at 8DPO. I think I may give in to temptation soon, but I will let you know when I do. Have a great rest of your weekend everyone and talk to you on Monday!

 

[Keepingthefaith21]

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RC - I am sorry to hear that TTC is kind of a downer these days. I work for an insurance company and many of our member's appeal infertility benefit denials and I must admit, after reading through all the clinical and everything these ladies are going through, I give you a LOT of props for doing this. It can not be easy. Keep hanging in there!

Charbie - Contrats to saying goodbye to BCP and saying HELLO to hubby coming back home!!

LA Jennifer - Agree that maybe a second opinion could yield a more positive vibe between you and a potential new Dr. However, I have found that even my OB is dismissive of my charts. When I asked if I should bring my "new" and "old" charts to my appointment later this week she told me not to bother, that they are prone to frequent "user mistakes" and all she wanted me to be able to tell her were beginning and end dates for my spotting and bleeding. I presume they figure they will piece the picture together with laboratory results.

Po - Good luck to you with your BDing!! I am crossing my fingers for an October BFP!

Bella - Sorry to hear that AF showed her ugly head. Very happy for you and DH starting the adoption process. I hope that you will keep us informed of how that process unfolds for you as I know it is an option DH and I have discussed should we find we are unable to have children on our own. I am so incredibly excited for you!

Steal - How you feeling? I know you were last left suffering with a case if the ickies. Seems to be that time of year!

DC - I'm crossing my fingers for you that you get your BFP this month!!! By now you should be getting verrrrrrrrryyyy close to POAS Day!!!
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AFM - I began what appears to be another visit from AF but with my body being so ridiculous I can't tell. If this is indeed another visit, I had a 23 day cycle this month and I have no idea what to think about that. It really does seem like exercise only serves to increase the bleeding and cramping. When I sat down to make a "diary" of the past two months for my OB I realized I have spent more than half of the time bleeding in some way. It was incredibly heartbreaking to see it all laid out, day by day - each time I noted the spotting went away I remembered how excited I was to feel like I was normalizing. Then within a few days I'd be logging new spotting or active bleeding and I remember how frustrated I felt. I called my OB today and scheduled my visit for additional testing on Friday. At this point I am not looking for some renewed sense of hope that all will go well and DH and I will someday be pregnant again. Instead, all I want is to know what we are facing. At this point in time I just want some answers. Hopefully Friday!!!

 

[WhatsOldisNew]

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Hi all,
I am a fairly regular poster who does not want the people I know IRL to know that I'm TTC, so I changed my screen name for this purpose.

I do not know if I belong on this thread, since we have not really started TTC yet. I have been lurking for a few months on and off, and I am cheering for all of you! My husband and I recently decided to try to have a baby, so I went off the birth control pill for the first time in 15 years and I signed up for Fertility Friend and here I am. My immediate plan is to start charting this cycle (CD1 should occur in the next day or two), and if all goes well we will begin actively trying next cycle. I purchased a basal body temperature thermometer from Amazon and read up on all the signs and symptoms of ovulation. Next step is obvious I suppose.

I am excited for this journey, but part of me is a bit nervous. I am very much looking forward to starting a family with DH, but at the same time this process seems a bit surreal. I cannot seem to shake the feeling that I am playing house, dressing up in my mother's high heels and pretending to be a responsible adult. But as usual I am getting ahead of myself. For now I will say good luck to you all and I hope to make valuable contributions to this thread.


--WhatsOldIsNew

 

[dcgator]

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Hey Ladies,

First off, hello...echo...echo... WHERE IS EVERYONE? Please do come back ladies, I need someone to chat with and keep me distracted from the 2WW and work, lol.

KTF - I am so very sorry to hear about your continued troubles. I can't imagine how frustrating it must be to have you body do all these crazy things when you just want it to do what its supposed to. I really hope that your Dr. is able to give you some answers on Friday and while it seems like you are not as concerned with the baby making issues as much as the normal functioning thing, hopefully they will be able to give you some clarity of both issues. I will be thinking of you on Friday and will look out for an update when you have it. Good luck sweetie.

WhatsOldisNew - Welcome to the TTC 'hood You are most definitley in the right place my dear. We have people in all stages of the TTC process, from old pros to people who are just dipping thier toes in here and getting off birth control. I hope that you will find the answers, info and support you need here. And I think we all kind of feel that surreal feeling in the beginning, however, it should sink in once you actually start "trying". Good luck on your journey and may it be a short stay here!

Dreamer - You aren't the "mystery" poster are you? Not trying to out you, just curious...

Kennedy - You should be right around testing time. Any news yet?

AFM - So, I am 11DPO and BFN. Boo. Oh well, I don't think I expected much more, but I was still kinda hoping the HSG would work its "magic" on me and save me the hassle and $ of ART treatments. I know there are maybe 1 or 2 more days that I could hope for a BFP, so I will keep trying for the next couple days or till AF in about 3 days. Anywho, I am not super bummed right now because I am focusing all my energy on our RE appt on Friday, which will reveal all the results of DH and my tests. I think after that meeting we will have a plan of action, and hopefully, we will be closer to the IUI, which is what the doc is shooting for. So, that is keeping me somewhat positive right now.

To all the ladies still in the 2WW and just entering it, good luck! For those of you on a new cycle, here's to a successful one!

 

[Bella_mezzo]

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hi DC-I am still here I'm sorry about the BFN but glad that you have the RE appt to focus on for the end of the week! It really helps to have something to focus on/feeling like you have a plan I feel a million times better to know that we have a plan now (starting the adoption process, maybe testing later this fall, etc...) it feels much better to me!

Work is super crazy so I have a lighter course load this semester. It's nice to be in class so much, but not so nice that it means it will take longer to finish my MBA.

Po and Ryan Claire-Big hugs to you both!

I am swamped so I have to run ot a mtg, but dust to everyone in the 2ww, welcome to the newbies, and a huge hug to all the ladies who are not newbies

 

[Steel]

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Dcgator: Grrrr. I am secretly (well not so secretly now) hoping this is the one for you. Your tubes know the way now that you have had your HSG. I am still being positive for you with my fingers crossed for a BFP. I so want it for you. I picked up my next 3 months of 30day/night lenses and am very happy about them. I have taken a 2 day break and am wearing my glasses – and wouldn’t you guess it is pouring with rain here – I need glasses-wipers! ***Dustdustdustdustdustdust****
Wow, so Friday is a big appointment? I am there with you in sprit – or I can wait in the waiting room if you guys want privacy !!!!! You know I wish you only but the best – I hope you guys have top of the class results.

KTF: I love to see you posting but I am so sorry to hear that you are going through the ringer. I’m sorry but I cannot imagine what you are experiencing but I really hope it stops. I hope you get some answers on Friday. Good luck honey.

WON: Hey there . Happy learning and charting. Looking forward to ‘seeing’ you around here. Feel free to jump in on anything.

Bella: Busy girl! You sound happy though, that is nice to see . I told my DH about your adoption plans and he was pleased for you both! Those nappies need a bottom!

Dreamer: I wondered if it was you too.... In fact you were the 1st person I thought of, the 2nd being Mara. Don't ask me why. Can I ask for your advice please? Based on example CD's: if I get a positive (darker or dark as control) OPK on CD14 if you were a magic sex fairy, (1)when e.x.a.c.t.l.y would you advice BD'ing. (2) Do those days/frequency change if you BD in the AM or PM, especially if it is not consistently one or the other. Thanks babe, your 50p cheque is in the post!

AFM:

Im on CD10 and did that Soya from CD3-7. I would normally expect to O on CD14 (28day cycle) but it was CD12 last month (26day cycle) with the LP staying consistent at 14days. Funny thing when I shove that data into a timing your bonking type thing (yes I have them bookmarked, don't judge me) It suggested I would O on the 3rd October for a 28 day cycle and the 1st for 26 day cycle. Does that sound right? I count CD12 to be 30th Sept and CD14 to be 2nd Oct. It is moot really because we are going for EOD and I use the OPK's to time but I was bored and the 'doing the deed' calculator was there and the rest is history.

I love all the pseudonyms. It is funny because we all post under a pseudonym anyhoo, so having a second pseudonym to protect a pseudonym sounds so silly! That said I totally get the need to be on the QT – I wouldn’t want everybody knowing my business IRL. In fact I'm thinking about changing my name - any suggestions. I really am being serious. I thought about Cherry because my Cerises and Cherry Blossom bags make me so happy but I bet that is taken... Plus I could do with a cuter name . In fact I think I am inspired to e-mail admin. Off I trot....
Ps. But I am so used to being 'me' a name change is so scary....

 

[modernsparkler]

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Bella: Glad you got the keys back! I think it is wonderful that you and DH are going to pursue adoption, thanks for sharing such a big deicision. I am sure you have heard that there are MANY people who start the adoption process and end up getting pregnant along the way. Either way, sounds like you have a good plan and will be putting your nappies to use!
Another note about the new PS... I have just taken to opening a new window and looking at that when I reply all, it makes life a lot easier.

KTF: Ugh, sorry about AF and such an annoying short cycle and all that bleeding Hopefully you will get some good advice on Friday.

Old is New: Welcome. I agree that the experience can be pretty surreal at the beginning but very exciting ! Lots of luck to you!

DC: DONT count yourself out yet! The magic of the HSG may still be at work. Thinking good thoughts for you!

Steal: Wow, sounds like quite the house project you have going. Hope you are feeling better!

AFM: Looks like Friday will be a big day for doctors visits around here! I am going to see my FP doc for a regular well woman exam and just to tell her we are officially TTC. I am still unsure if I will see her or switch to an OB when we get our BFP. I am on CD 18 and no real sign of O yet either Not on FF, OPK's or EWCM. I think O was CD 19 last month so I am hoping for some clarity in the next few days. It is just getting a bit frustrating not even having an eggie to chase!

 

[Steel]

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I found some jokes on pregnancy & fertility issues and thought we could do with some humour over here. If anybody finds them in poor taste I am very sorry.


Labor pains
A married couple went to the hospital together to have their baby delivered. Upon their arrival, the doctor said he had invented a new machine that would transfer a portion of the mother's labor pain to the father. He asked if they were willing to try it out. The husband was a little worried about this, but wanted to help out so he agreed.
The doctor set the knob to 10 percent for starters, telling the husband that even 10 percent was probably more pain than he had experienced ever before. But as the labor progressed, the husband felt fine. The doctor looked a little bewildered and adjusted the machine to give the father 20 percent of the pain. The husband was still feeling fine. The doctor checked the husband's blood pressure and heart rate and all seemed perfect. They decided to transfer 50 percent of the pain to the father.
The husband continued doing well and started making wisecracks about how women complain so much about labor and it really wasn't a big deal. In fact, he was willing to take all the pain! The doctor turned the switch to 100 percent. The wife delivered a healthy baby with virtually no pain and she and her husband were ecstatic.
When they got home, the mailman was dead on their doorstep!


But these are a little more risqué: (PLEASE, please SKIP IF YOU ARE FEELING TENDER ABOUT TTC)

You know you are trying to get pregnant when:
Someone asks you today's date and you reply "Day 21" . . .

How many infertility patients does it take to screw in a lightbulb?
Screw in a lightbulb! Hmmm . . . do you think it might help? . . .

One ovary says to the other ovary, "Hey, did you order any furniture?"
The other ovary says, "No, why?"
"There are a couple of nuts outside trying to shove an organ in."

How can you tell if a man has a high sperm count?
You have to chew before you swallow!

Two sperm were swimming through a woman's body.
The first said, "Whew. I'm getting tired. Just how far is it to the uterus?"
"The uterus?" the second laughed. "We're not even past the esophagus yet!"

And my personal favourite:

Why does it take 50 million sperm to fertilize one egg?
Because they won't ask for directions either!

 

[Dreamer_D]

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DCgator and Steal Noooo I am not the secretagent! First, no one IRL knows me here so I have no reason to be coy, second, I was not a jerkstore my first time nor do I have an EW set e-ring like Jas12 (hints offered by secret agent). I firgured out who she is and am not sure either of you know her well? Trust me, when I am actively TTC and get a BFP I will let you all know!

Steal I actually don't know much about OPKs... but if you are doing EOD I would stick with that plan! Maybe from CD 8 to 16/18 if you can handle that? I think thought, that you for sure want to BD the day of a positive OPK and the day after, too, though, since it means ovulation within 36 hours right?

But really, I think that DTD in advance of ovulation is also a good plan to make sure the swimmers are there are ready and to account for the wide error rate in estimating O day. Spermies can live for 5 days in fertile fluid, AND according to another PSer, it can take up to 12 hours for the swimmers to get to the egg and to also mature for penetrating the egg. So if you can DTD like 24 hours before ovulation or more, then it makes it more likely that they would be hanging around in the fallopian tube when the egg gets there!

Since you have a pretty regular ovulation somewhere from CD 12 - 14, if it was me, I would just get busy as much as you possible can between CD 8 and CD 16!

 

[modernsparkler]

Re: The Official TTC Thread!

Thanks for the laugh steal!

 

[Dreamer_D]

Re: The Official TTC Thread!

And hang in the DC, it ain't over til the fat lady sings. And I am really glad you are having your RE appintment this friday! A plan and some answers (maybe) will go a long way I think.

 

[Steel]

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Modern: Gosh, Friday does seem to be THE day for Dr's visits. I hope your is helpful & nice. Glad you had a giggle! Try to drink as much water as you can - I'm trying that this month too - apparently the more water = the more possible EWCM.

Dreamer: Oh, I hadn't caught the latest 'clue' from the agent. I mostly try to keep out of the Preggo thread for obvious reasons ( ) Awh well, I don't know anybody else with E-W set, so I'm outta guesses. Thank you for the top tips. I will keep a beady eye on the OPK's and continue with EOD except trying for O-1, O, O+1 and +2 this month. Luckily DH's schedule fits that perfectly this month for CD12 and CD14 or anything inbetween, so I just have to see if we can stay in the mood. I want to put that little raising eyebrows emotie in now, but he gets so much use in this thread I bet he is tired by now, so lets just say I did. He can save his eyebrow raising for O-1.

Happy hump day. EDIT: Ha, for tomorrow, I mean, ha ha....backing away slowly and hoping nobody saw...

BTW: We rented Unthinkable last night and I thought it was really gripping. Highly recommended. I want to see Devil but DH won't go with me , we will try to see The Town when it comes out. It is getting great reviews.

 

[Dreamer_D]

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Dreamer: Oh, I hadn't caught the latest 'clue' from the agent. I mostly try to keep out of the Preggo thread for obvious reasons ( ) Awh well, I don't know anybody else with E-W set, so I'm outta guesses. Thank you for the top tips. I will keep a beady eye on the OPK's and continue with EOD except trying for O-1, O, O+1 and +2 this month. Luckily DH's schedule fits that perfectly this month for CD12 and CD14 or anything inbetween, so I just have to see if we can stay in the mood. I want to put that little raising eyebrows emotie in now, but he gets so much use in this thread I bet he is tired by now, so lets just say I did. He can save his eyebrow raising for O-1.
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I know it is impossible really to know when O is coming, but hitting O-3, 0-2 would be better than aiming for O+2. If your fertile signs make you think it is coming, then a little more BD before is worth MUCH more than a little more after.