The Official TTC Thread!

[blushingbride]

Date: 5/7/2008 4:24:13 PM
Author: AmberWaves
I just want to warn you guys- I''m a psycho. I''m a hypochondriac (which isn''t helped by my serious lifetime of horrible medical conditions) who has wanted to be a mother since she was 12. So I want to apologize in advance for any and all pathetic, whiny, and mopey posts. I really appreciate all your advice and camaraderie!

LOL...I wouldn''t classify myself as a hypochondriac, but I guess you can call me an "extreme planner."

Which is probably up there with being an hypochondriac. Anyway, when people tell me to relax and just let things happen, it''s very hard for me to not to have control over situations.

So, I also want to apologize in advance for all the questions and worrying - you all have been so wonderful!

 

[AmberWaves]

Ha, we''re like a support group as well as a TTC group. My name is Amber, and I''m Pregnancy-Possessed.

 

[Dreamer_D]

haah... you don't end up on a diamond forum unless you are a little obsessive by nature!

We are all probably a *little* kookoo

 

[blushingbride]

good point DD!

 

[pavelover]

You guys are so funny and I feel like I fit right in here with my hypochondriac,impatient, wanted it yesterday self!!! Thanks for making me giggle today and lots of other days too!!!

 

[AmberWaves]

So today there is definitely EWCM. How sad that I totally grinned? Still, we may have a hitch in our plan. I went off my company's insurance at the beginning of May, because that's their open enrollment time. I'm going on my husband's insurance, which is awesome Catholic School covered stuff (the obstetrics and gyno stuff is all 100% covered, even problem births!). Unfortunately, my insurance kicks in on the 1st of July. I'm torn. Part of me wants to try right now and if we get PG this time, I'd be about 6 weeks pregnant in July (total guesstimation, I have no idea what dates do what), when it would be a good time to see a dr. I checked out the Blue Cross of CA plan, and pregnancy isn't a pre-existing condition, so that's okay. What do you think? I'd be fertile again in another month, which is midway through June.

I don't know.

 

[neatfreak]

Date: 5/8/2008 5:17:57 PM
Author: AmberWaves
So today there is definitely EWCM. How sad that I totally grinned? Still, we may have a hitch in our plan. I went off my company''s insurance at the beginning of May, because that''s their open enrollment time. I''m going on my husband''s insurance, which is awesome Catholic School covered stuff (the obstetrics and gyno stuff is all 100% covered, even problem births!). Unfortunately, my insurance kicks in on the 1st of July. I''m torn. Part of me wants to try right now and if we get PG this time, I''d be about 6 weeks pregnant in July (total guesstimation, I have no idea what dates do what), when it would be a good time to see a dr. I checked out the Blue Cross of CA plan, and pregnancy isn''t a pre-existing condition, so that''s okay. What do you think? I''d be fertile again in another month, which is midway through June.


I don''t know.

Well, if you go preggers like today, you''d actually be 8 weeks along in the first week of July the way it is calculated. So you''d be right on time for your first visit. I would call the insurance company and make 100% sure that pregnancy is covered even if you get preggers before you are on the plan.

Otherwise I don''t see a problem with it...but just be aware that if something were to go wrong before 8 weeks, you''d have to go to planned parenthood or something and pay for it out of pocket. If that isn''t a big deal, then there shouldn''t be a reason not to.

 

[Dreamer_D]

Date: 5/8/2008 10:16:17 PM
Author: neatfreak

Date: 5/8/2008 5:17:57 PM
Author: AmberWaves
So today there is definitely EWCM. How sad that I totally grinned? Still, we may have a hitch in our plan. I went off my company's insurance at the beginning of May, because that's their open enrollment time. I'm going on my husband's insurance, which is awesome Catholic School covered stuff (the obstetrics and gyno stuff is all 100% covered, even problem births!). Unfortunately, my insurance kicks in on the 1st of July. I'm torn. Part of me wants to try right now and if we get PG this time, I'd be about 6 weeks pregnant in July (total guesstimation, I have no idea what dates do what), when it would be a good time to see a dr. I checked out the Blue Cross of CA plan, and pregnancy isn't a pre-existing condition, so that's okay. What do you think? I'd be fertile again in another month, which is midway through June.


I don't know.

Well, if you go preggers like today, you'd actually be 8 weeks along in the first week of July the way it is calculated. So you'd be right on time for your first visit. I would call the insurance company and make 100% sure that pregnancy is covered even if you get preggers before you are on the plan.

Otherwise I don't see a problem with it...but just be aware that if something were to go wrong before 8 weeks, you'd have to go to planned parenthood or something and pay for it out of pocket. If that isn't a big deal, then there shouldn't be a reason not to.

Wow, my heart goes out to you guys that you even have to think about insurance and health care! That really sucks! In Canada everything is covered, so there is no worries... but NF sounds like she has the right idea, might as well call the insurance company and ask.

Here is a script for how I think the conversation should go:

Catholic School Insurance: Hello, how may I help you?

Amberwaves: Hello, I have a question about insurance coverage. See, my hoohaw is currently producing egg whitey mucus, I can stretch it like three inches between my fingers! And I really want to get preggers so today is the day, and, well, I need to know if you will cover me if my DH's army ant sperm manages to infiltrate my "fortress"? He is really sick, so I really only have this one chance, so please tell me it's a go!

Catholic School Insurance:

Amber, please print a copy of this script so you have it handy when you call, and then tell me what they say!

 

[AmberWaves]

Thanks NF and DD! Yeah, it totally sucks to be worrying about insurance right now, when I''m just wanting to procreate. This insurance is awesome, though, and I''m so glad I left my company''s- which sucked. I''ve spoken with them today, and it''s kind of mixed response about whether or not my asthma is covered.

Luckily, pregnancy is, but it''s no use if I can''t breathe.

 

[Dreamer_D]

Date: 5/8/2008 11:32:10 PM
Author: AmberWaves
Thanks NF and DD! Yeah, it totally sucks to be worrying about insurance right now, when I''m just wanting to procreate. This insurance is awesome, though, and I''m so glad I left my company''s- which sucked. I''ve spoken with them today, and it''s kind of mixed response about whether or not my asthma is covered.

Luckily, pregnancy is, but it''s no use if I can''t breathe.

You mean they will never cover your asthma, or they won''t cover it if you have issues during pregnancy if you get preggers before you start their plan in July???

I must add that this whole, "Oh we insure you, but not for that..." business really disgusts me.

 

[AmberWaves]

Hey DD, well, they said that they''d cover my asthma and asthma meds after a YEAR of waiting while on their insurance. Although we''ve worked out that since I had insurance coverage non-stop with my company for over 7 years, I can use those years as a credit for wait time. As long as there wasn''t more than 63 between my last insurance coverage and my new insurance, I''ll be covered. Luckily, I''m only going 61 days between coverage.

Now, guess who is sick? MOI. Last night I couldn''t even function, so there was no "lovin''".

When I woke up this morning, sad, my husband was like, we''ll do it all weekend! And I tried to explain AGAIN- it''s all part of a schedule. Yes, I appreciate lovin'', but when he just doesn''t listen to me when I try to explain why we need to do it when we can. Now, I had the postive OPK stick yesterday, EWCM and all that, and today I''m suppposed to ovulate. Would sex tonight be futile? Sorry for the stupid question, but my brain isn''t in it today, my throat is killing me.

 

[pavelover]

Aww Amber that stinks that you are sick now too!!! Booooo!! I hope you feel better soon. I had two days of lh surge using the sticks- did you try again today? I would say it wouldn''t be a waste!! At least you would feel better to know that you tried. On the other hand, there is always next month too so try not to stress yourself out too much. When I had the surges I bd those two days but then didn''t get to do the rest(the day after for extra insurance,etc) and it still worked. Good LUck!!!!!

 

[Dreamer_D]

Geez, amber, that insurance stuff is crazy!

As for BDing, I say do the deed today. It may work, who knows? If you O late tonight, there may be enough time for some of the really fast swimmers to get there. But try it asap to be safe.

As for your hubby not understanding, I showed hubby some charts of FF and explained about fertile times etc. and the visuals seemed to help.

As for me, today is CD-10, and we began our every-second-day fertility fest on CD-8. We''re gonna keep it up until after O is confirmed, so maybe for 8 days or so. Wish me luck! DH is very excited about the whole thing, needless to say

 

[AmberWaves]

Hi guys! Totally feeling bad today. Since we''re still going to Disneyland (I was so hoping to be like, "Amber, you possibly got impregnated, where are you going??" "I''m going to Disneyland!", I''m just going to med up and hopefully things will all be okay.

Thanks so much for the words of encouragement, I really do appreciate it. My pregnant friend keeps telling me, "STRESS DOES NOT HELP YOU GET PREGNANT". Okay, okay, I told her.

Good luck, DD!! You''re only a few days behind me, I believe I''m on CD13?

 

[Tacori E-ring]

Amber, I am glad you feel better! Insurance is so confusing for sure. Lots of baby dust to you!

 

[Dreamer_D]

Amber: I am only a few days behind you, I''m on CD-12 today. I think O is still about 4 days away though, based on signs and last cycle. We shall see! Here''s hoping we do something right this month!

EBree, how is it going with your 2ww? If memory serves you must be almost 15 DPO by now?

 

[E B]

Date: 5/11/2008 12:25:50 PM
Author: dreamer_dachsie

EBree, how is it going with your 2ww? If memory serves you must be almost 15 DPO by now?

Dreamer-

Thanks for thinking of me! I am 15 DPO, and on Mother's Day, no less. I have no idea what to think, and I'm too afraid to test. I've got some symptoms, but I have no idea if they're "real" or imagined due to me being, well, 15 DPO. Time will tell.

To be honest, I'm scared of both a BFN or a BFP at this point.

 

[AmberWaves]

Hey guys! I am so tired of being sick. I've had a fever on and off throughout the weekend, and now that the fever is kind of gone, my temps in the morning are totally down. Now sign of O via BBT, but the EWCM and th + OPK on thursday and friday begs to differ. Stupid cold. At least I'm now feeling better enough to go to Disneyland!

I guess we'll just wait for next month's cycle to try. I'm okay with a late Feb or later baby!

ETA: Good luck Ebree, I hope things go well.

 

[Dreamer_D]

Date: 5/11/2008 12:57:15 PM
Author: EBree

Date: 5/11/2008 12:25:50 PM
Author: dreamer_dachsie

EBree, how is it going with your 2ww? If memory serves you must be almost 15 DPO by now?

Dreamer-

Thanks for thinking of me! I am 15 DPO, and on Mother''s Day, no less. I have no idea what to think, and I''m too afraid to test. I''ve got some symptoms, but I have no idea if they''re ''real'' or imagined due to me being, well, 15 DPO. Time will tell.

To be honest, I''m scared of both a BFN or a BFP at this point.

Oohhhhh how exciting! When was/is AF due, based on your typical cycle? Are you passed that date yet?

You know I think you should test right

... but I also know the feeling of wanting to wait and prolonging the hope and possibility that it is real.

Either way, everything will be fine!

As for me, I think there is EWCF today... so that''s good news!

 

[Dreamer_D]

Date: 5/11/2008 1:53:52 PM
Author: AmberWaves
Hey guys! I am so tired of being sick. I''ve had a fever on and off throughout the weekend, and now that the fever is kind of gone, my temps in the morning are totally down. Now sign of O via BBT, but the EWCM and th + OPK on thursday and friday begs to differ. Stupid cold. At least I''m now feeling better enough to go to Disneyland!

I guess we''ll just wait for next month''s cycle to try. I''m okay with a late Feb or later baby!

ETA: Good luck Ebree, I hope things go well.

If your temps haven''t shifted you probably haven''t O-d yet... if you want to, you can try still and something *may* come of it!

Otherwise, a late feb baby soubds great! haha

 

[neatfreak]

Date: 5/11/2008 1:53:52 PM
Author: AmberWaves
Hey guys! I am so tired of being sick. I''ve had a fever on and off throughout the weekend, and now that the fever is kind of gone, my temps in the morning are totally down. Now sign of O via BBT, but the EWCM and th + OPK on thursday and friday begs to differ. Stupid cold. At least I''m now feeling better enough to go to Disneyland!


I guess we''ll just wait for next month''s cycle to try. I''m okay with a late Feb or later baby!


ETA: Good luck Ebree, I hope things go well.

Just so you know Amber a fever can mess with your BBT, so it isn''t a reliable measure if you are sick. If all other signs are a go, I''d go for it!

 

[Gemma12]

Date: 5/11/2008 12:57:15 PM
Author: EBree

Date: 5/11/2008 12:25:50 PM
Author: dreamer_dachsie

EBree, how is it going with your 2ww? If memory serves you must be almost 15 DPO by now?

Dreamer-

Thanks for thinking of me! I am 15 DPO, and on Mother''s Day, no less. I have no idea what to think, and I''m too afraid to test. I''ve got some symptoms, but I have no idea if they''re ''real'' or imagined due to me being, well, 15 DPO. Time will tell.

To be honest, I''m scared of both a BFN or a BFP at this point.

EBree, I''ve been thinking of you! Fingers, toes, all crossed for your BFP soon!

 

[lisa1.01fvs1]

Hi All--quick drive by to say Happy Mother''s Day soon to all those TTC!!!!

Will post more later.

Crap...totally torturing myself with the POAS.

DPO I think #7? I know its early but so far nothin''.

Hope everyone''s doing well and having some fun today.

 

[blushingbride]

Good morning TTC''ers - hope everyone had a nice weekend!

Ebree and Lisa - fingers crossed and lots of baby dust for you both!

Amber - were you able to squeeze in some TTC time despite being sick this weekend?

As for me, I''ve been noticing this cycle I''ve had some really low temps in the morning. Does anyone know what causes such low temps? I was comparing my chart this month with my chart from last month and they look nothing alike!

In addition to that, I''m on CD 16 and haven''t ovulated yet. If it''s anything like last cycle, I probably have luteal phase defect will call my doctor at the end of this cycle to see if I need to use progesterone cream. I''m just happy I''m finding all this out now, rather than later...

 

[Dreamer_D]

Date: 5/12/2008 11:45:01 AM
Author: blushingbride
Good morning TTC''ers - hope everyone had a nice weekend!

Ebree and Lisa - fingers crossed and lots of baby dust for you both!

Amber - were you able to squeeze in some TTC time despite being sick this weekend?

As for me, I''ve been noticing this cycle I''ve had some really low temps in the morning. Does anyone know what causes such low temps? I was comparing my chart this month with my chart from last month and they look nothing alike!

In addition to that, I''m on CD 16 and haven''t ovulated yet. If it''s anything like last cycle, I probably have luteal phase defect will call my doctor at the end of this cycle to see if I need to use progesterone cream. I''m just happy I''m finding all this out now, rather than later...

I''m sorry that you are concerned about the luteal phase issue! It is good to find out about it now, if that is actually what is going on. How long have you been off the pill? FF has some interesting information about going off the pill and fertility... basically, what I got from it is that cycles can be wonky for 6 months if you are under 30, and they can be wonky for 12 months if you are over 30. But ovulation still happens and people definitely get preggers, it is just harder to predict cycle length and when ovulation will occurr! So don''t get to worried yet about problems, this may be a very long cycle for you. Do you have any other fertility signs?

As for low temps, how many degrees lower than your average are you talking? Could be anything, lots of women seem to get a drop right before ovulation (I think FF said it was about 12% or somthing?)...

 

[blushingbride]

Date: 5/12/2008 12:18:22 PM
Author: dreamer_dachsie

Date: 5/12/2008 11:45:01 AM
Author: blushingbride
Good morning TTC''ers - hope everyone had a nice weekend!

Ebree and Lisa - fingers crossed and lots of baby dust for you both!

Amber - were you able to squeeze in some TTC time despite being sick this weekend?

As for me, I''ve been noticing this cycle I''ve had some really low temps in the morning. Does anyone know what causes such low temps? I was comparing my chart this month with my chart from last month and they look nothing alike!

In addition to that, I''m on CD 16 and haven''t ovulated yet. If it''s anything like last cycle, I probably have luteal phase defect will call my doctor at the end of this cycle to see if I need to use progesterone cream. I''m just happy I''m finding all this out now, rather than later...

I''m sorry that you are concerned about the luteal phase issue! It is good to find out about it now, if that is actually what is going on. How long have you been off the pill? FF has some interesting information about going off the pill and fertility... basically, what I got from it is that cycles can be wonky for 6 months if you are under 30, and they can be wonky for 12 months if you are over 30. But ovulation still happens and people definitely get preggers, it is just harder to predict cycle length and when ovulation will occurr! So don''t get to worried yet about problems, this may be a very long cycle for you. Do you have any other fertility signs?

As for low temps, how many degrees lower than your average are you talking? Could be anything, lots of women seem to get a drop right before ovulation (I think FF said it was about 12% or somthing?)...

Thanks DD! I feel like sometimes I''m overanalizing things, but at the same time, I would much rather get things checked out early than wait too long. I''ve been off the pill since Oct. and I have regualr 30 day cycles so, it''s interesting that my temperatures fluctuate so much. I was tested for endometriosis and my sonogram came back normal and my progesterone was tested on day 21 which came back normal. Hmmmm...

My average temp. is usually around 97.4...sometimes more and sometimes a little lower. This month though they have dropped to the low 96''s on somedays...and I know haven''t always tested at my usual time, but if I was off, it was only by an hour.

 

[Dreamer_D]

Date: 5/12/2008 12:47:25 PM
Author: blushingbride

Date: 5/12/2008 12:18:22 PM
Author: dreamer_dachsie

Date: 5/12/2008 11:45:01 AM
Author: blushingbride
Good morning TTC''ers - hope everyone had a nice weekend!

Ebree and Lisa - fingers crossed and lots of baby dust for you both!

Amber - were you able to squeeze in some TTC time despite being sick this weekend?

As for me, I''ve been noticing this cycle I''ve had some really low temps in the morning. Does anyone know what causes such low temps? I was comparing my chart this month with my chart from last month and they look nothing alike!

In addition to that, I''m on CD 16 and haven''t ovulated yet. If it''s anything like last cycle, I probably have luteal phase defect will call my doctor at the end of this cycle to see if I need to use progesterone cream. I''m just happy I''m finding all this out now, rather than later...

I''m sorry that you are concerned about the luteal phase issue! It is good to find out about it now, if that is actually what is going on. How long have you been off the pill? FF has some interesting information about going off the pill and fertility... basically, what I got from it is that cycles can be wonky for 6 months if you are under 30, and they can be wonky for 12 months if you are over 30. But ovulation still happens and people definitely get preggers, it is just harder to predict cycle length and when ovulation will occurr! So don''t get to worried yet about problems, this may be a very long cycle for you. Do you have any other fertility signs?

As for low temps, how many degrees lower than your average are you talking? Could be anything, lots of women seem to get a drop right before ovulation (I think FF said it was about 12% or somthing?)...

Thanks DD! I feel like sometimes I''m overanalizing things, but at the same time, I would much rather get things checked out early than wait too long. I''ve been off the pill since Oct. and I have regualr 30 day cycles so, it''s interesting that my temperatures fluctuate so much. I was tested for endometriosis and my sonogram came back normal and my progesterone was tested on day 21 which came back normal. Hmmmm...

My average temp. is usually around 97.4...sometimes more and sometimes a little lower. This month though they have dropped to the low 96''s on somedays...and I know haven''t always tested at my usual time, but if I was off, it was only by an hour.

Well I know it''s hard but I''d try not to make too much of it at this point. If you scroll through the charts of FF, you will see all kinds of crazy patterns. Check it out, it will probably make you feel better. It''s under "Chart Gallery" and you can even select one''s where they got preggers, that will really help b/c you can see the crazy patterns of people who still conceived. There are also people in there with "short" luteal phases, yet it all still happened! Remember, spotting the temp shift is hard and the computer just makes it''s best guess, you may have ovulated sooner or later than the programme estimates.

Who knows why you had lows? FF lists a bunch of reasons why temps can vary, maybe one of those? Still, better to not worry about it and just keep collecting data. Small abberations usually don''t matter when it comes to data analysis, that''s just error. Rather, what you need to see if the overall pattern, and that you just can''t judge with only 2 months of temps.

I really think you should try monitoring your CF and just let the temps do what they may. The CF is really clear, but you may need to check internally. On the days before you O it is very pletiful and slippery, but right after O it dries right up. Even without temping you can tell what''s happening. The cervix is also pretty clear with it''s signs.

 

[lisa1.01fvs1]

Ebree - dying to know if you POAS? I''ve peed on 3 today BFN (I know way to early but I get a strange thrill out of it).

BB - Thanks for the positive vibes. Have you seen a RE (for the luteal phase potential issue?) sorry if u already answered that one.

If we don''t get pregnant this cycle then we may try IUI w/ injectibles next round. Whoa, that would be this week!

 

[blushingbride]

Date: 5/13/2008 12:17:06 AM
Author: lisa1.01fvs1
Ebree - dying to know if you POAS? I''ve peed on 3 today BFN (I know way to early but I get a strange thrill out of it).

BB - Thanks for the positive vibes. Have you seen a RE (for the luteal phase potential issue?) sorry if u already answered that one.

If we don''t get pregnant this cycle then we may try IUI w/ injectibles next round. Whoa, that would be this week!

Hi Lisa - what do you mean by RE? I haven''t had my morning coffee yet so, I apologize!

 

[blushingbride]

Date: 5/12/2008 12:55:20 PM
Author: dreamer_dachsie

Date: 5/12/2008 12:47:25 PM
Author: blushingbride

Date: 5/12/2008 12:18:22 PM
Author: dreamer_dachsie

Date: 5/12/2008 11:45:01 AM
Author: blushingbride
Good morning TTC''ers - hope everyone had a nice weekend!

Ebree and Lisa - fingers crossed and lots of baby dust for you both!

Amber - were you able to squeeze in some TTC time despite being sick this weekend?

As for me, I''ve been noticing this cycle I''ve had some really low temps in the morning. Does anyone know what causes such low temps? I was comparing my chart this month with my chart from last month and they look nothing alike!

In addition to that, I''m on CD 16 and haven''t ovulated yet. If it''s anything like last cycle, I probably have luteal phase defect will call my doctor at the end of this cycle to see if I need to use progesterone cream. I''m just happy I''m finding all this out now, rather than later...

I''m sorry that you are concerned about the luteal phase issue! It is good to find out about it now, if that is actually what is going on. How long have you been off the pill? FF has some interesting information about going off the pill and fertility... basically, what I got from it is that cycles can be wonky for 6 months if you are under 30, and they can be wonky for 12 months if you are over 30. But ovulation still happens and people definitely get preggers, it is just harder to predict cycle length and when ovulation will occurr! So don''t get to worried yet about problems, this may be a very long cycle for you. Do you have any other fertility signs?

As for low temps, how many degrees lower than your average are you talking? Could be anything, lots of women seem to get a drop right before ovulation (I think FF said it was about 12% or somthing?)...

Thanks DD! I feel like sometimes I''m overanalizing things, but at the same time, I would much rather get things checked out early than wait too long. I''ve been off the pill since Oct. and I have regualr 30 day cycles so, it''s interesting that my temperatures fluctuate so much. I was tested for endometriosis and my sonogram came back normal and my progesterone was tested on day 21 which came back normal. Hmmmm...

My average temp. is usually around 97.4...sometimes more and sometimes a little lower. This month though they have dropped to the low 96''s on somedays...and I know haven''t always tested at my usual time, but if I was off, it was only by an hour.

Well I know it''s hard but I''d try not to make too much of it at this point. If you scroll through the charts of FF, you will see all kinds of crazy patterns. Check it out, it will probably make you feel better. It''s under ''Chart Gallery'' and you can even select one''s where they got preggers, that will really help b/c you can see the crazy patterns of people who still conceived. There are also people in there with ''short'' luteal phases, yet it all still happened! Remember, spotting the temp shift is hard and the computer just makes it''s best guess, you may have ovulated sooner or later than the programme estimates.

Who knows why you had lows? FF lists a bunch of reasons why temps can vary, maybe one of those? Still, better to not worry about it and just keep collecting data. Small abberations usually don''t matter when it comes to data analysis, that''s just error. Rather, what you need to see if the overall pattern, and that you just can''t judge with only 2 months of temps.

I really think you should try monitoring your CF and just let the temps do what they may. The CF is really clear, but you may need to check internally. On the days before you O it is very pletiful and slippery, but right after O it dries right up. Even without temping you can tell what''s happening. The cervix is also pretty clear with it''s signs.

Yeah, scrolling through those charts on FF make me feel little better about things. It''s hard not having control over something you can never control...it can be very frustrating at times, but exciting other times. Thanks for all the good advice DD!