Trying to make a final decision, what do you think of these diamonds

[916]

Ok,
So I think I have it narrowed down between three diamonds, maybe you can give me your thoughts, and help me pick which one to get. All the prices arond around the same, but I just want to make sure im not over paying as well.
Thanks

The first is a from Whiteflash
1.04 H SI1 eyeclean
61.3 depth
55.5 table
34.6 crown
40.6 pavillion
price 4,500
this is is from a local jeweler
1.11 H SI1 eyeclean
60.9 depth
59 table
34.5
40.8
price 4,700
This one is from james allen
1.1 H SI1 eyeclean ( it has faint blue flourescence) I dont know if that is good or bad
62.2 Depth
57 table
36 crown
40.2 pavillion
price 4,800

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 1/22/2009 2:07:27 PM
Author:916


Ok,
So I think I have it narrowed down between three diamonds, maybe you can give me your thoughts, and help me pick which one to get. All the prices arond around the same, but I just want to make sure im not over paying as well.
Thanks

The first is a from Whiteflash
1.04 H SI1 eyeclean
61.3 depth
55.5 table
34.6 crown
40.6 pavillion
price 4,500


this is is from a local jeweler
1.11 H SI1 eyeclean
60.9 depth
59 table
34.5
40.8
price 4,700


This one is from james allen
1.1 H SI1 eyeclean ( it has faint blue flourescence) I dont know if that is good or bad
62.2 Depth
57 table
36 crown
40.2 pavillion
price 4,800

They all have potential, I would request Idealscope images from WF and JA for #'s 1 and 3. The James Allen diamond falls within fiery ideal cut range ( FIC) which means it may show a little more fire or coloured light if the lighting is right. Faint blue fluorescence is not a problem and you probably won't ever notice it.

Out of the ones you have listed I would probably pick the first WF diamond as it has good balanced proportions, all are well cut - however the second diamond has a slightly larger table and the JA is a FIC as previously noted, so it depends on what you are looking for.

Do you have the grading reports for the diamonds and the polish, symmetry, girdle and diameter measurements?

 

[916]

I know I cant get a idealscope image from the jeweler, will WF and james allen be able to supply that?

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 1/22/2009 2:14:35 PM
Author: 916
I know I cant get a idealscope image from the jeweler, will WF and james allen be able to supply that?

Yes, that shouldn''t be a problem.

 

[916]

It is probally going to take some time to get the ideal scope images
here are the dimensions and other info

This is for the whiteflash stone ( its is AGS certified)
1.04ct SI1 H
Depth: 61.3%
Table: 55.50%
Polish: ideal
Symmetry: ideal
Girdle: 1.4%-3.6
Fluorescence: negligible
Measurements: 6.53*6.55*4.01mm

cert# 15174537
This is for the james allen stone
Carat weight: 1.10
Cut: Premium
Color: H
Clarity: SI1
Certificate: GIA
Depth: 62.2%
Table: 57.0%
Polish: Good
Symmetry: Very Good
Girdle: Medium to slightly thick
Culet: None
Fluorescence: Faint
Measurements: 6.51*6.58*4.07

I am still checiking on the one from the jewellery store because the gia website is down, so I cant look it up, but i know the polish any symmetry are either very good or excellent

 

[stone-cold11]

Is the WF a ACA?

 

[916]

No, and its AGS certified,

 

[Lorelei]

Thanks for the additional info. Let me know how you get on with the one from the jeweller when you get the details on that one. The other two diamonds are different personalities - I would tend to favour the WF diamond pending further info on the jeweller diamond. Also a point to consider if an upgrade might ever be a possibility, both WF and JA have upgrade policies but the terms of each differ so if that might be a consideration you might want to read up on each policy.

 

[916]

I think I was leaning towards the WF one too, especially cause they have a setting I like. I just hope it doesnt look to small. Once the gia site gets back up and running I will be able to get the additional info on the third stone, if not I have it written down at home, so I can get it tonite.
Thanks for all the help

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 1/22/2009 3:06:11 PM
Author: 916
I think I was leaning towards the WF one too, especially cause they have a setting I like. I just hope it doesnt look to small. Once the gia site gets back up and running I will be able to get the additional info on the third stone, if not I have it written down at home, so I can get it tonite.
Thanks for all the help

Actually the WF diamond has more or less the same diameter as the JA diamond so you wouldn't notice any difference between them for face up size, despite the JA diamond being a little heavier on the carat weight.

Keep me posted on the jewellers diamond! And I am very glad to be of help to you

 

[916]

Here are the updated specs on the jewellers diamond
Depth 60.9
Table 59
Pavillion 40.8
Crown 34.5
Very good pollish
very good symmetry

6.65-6.68X9.06

 

[916]

sorry i had i typo on the dimmensions
its 6.65-6.68-4.06

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 1/23/2009 8:17:40 AM
Author: 916
sorry i had i typo on the dimmensions
its 6.65-6.68-4.06

Thanks! That all looks in order, so the jeweller diamond is a definite contender if you have seen it, like it and also like the slightly larger table.

 

[916]

Yeah I have seen it and it was very nice, I just hope he still has it because it was last week when I saw it. Actually a close friend of mine owns a jewellery store and I was telling him and he said he can get me one too, so he is going to look to see what he can find, but it might put me at a crossroads, because I know he will be giving me a good price, I just dont know if it will meet all of the requirements of an excellent stone. I asked him to look for something with an excellent cut, so hopefully it meets the HCA standards. Just when I thought I had a decision made, another contender jumps into the ring. LOL

This has been a long process, but at least I feel I am starting to see some light at the end of the tunnell

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 1/23/2009 8:43:40 AM
Author: 916
Yeah I have seen it and it was very nice, I just hope he still has it because it was last week when I saw it. Actually a close friend of mine owns a jewellery store and I was telling him and he said he can get me one too, so he is going to look to see what he can find, but it might put me at a crossroads, because I know he will be giving me a good price, I just dont know if it will meet all of the requirements of an excellent stone. I asked him to look for something with an excellent cut, so hopefully it meets the HCA standards. Just when I thought I had a decision made, another contender jumps into the ring. LOL

This has been a long process, but at least I feel I am starting to see some light at the end of the tunnell

LOL!! Its always the way! Just be a bit cautious if you are dealing with a friend as we have seen problems arise from this type of arrangement at times.

But you will get there and have some great diamonds to choose from!

 

[916]

He is actually going to call up his dealer and say get me the best looking diamond you have between 1.1 and 1.2 g or h color si1

 

[Kelli]

I''d go with Whiteflash. Should be a beauty

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 1/23/2009 9:52:33 AM
Author: 916
He is actually going to call up his dealer and say get me the best looking diamond you have between 1.1 and 1.2 g or h color si1

Let us know what he comes up with but proceed with caution - I just say this as this can be an emotional purchase and if something went wrong then this can affect any friendships involved, I don''t want to be a Debbie Downer, just point out some potential pitfalls of purchasing from a friend or relative.

 

[916]

No I understand 100%, that was my feeling going in, because if i so happy to like a different vendors diamond, its going to be hard for me to say Im going with someone else, even though I know he not planning on making any money on the deal.

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 1/23/2009 10:23:27 AM
Author: 916
No I understand 100%, that was my feeling going in, because if i so happy to like a different vendors diamond, its going to be hard for me to say Im going with someone else, even though I know he not planning on making any money on the deal.

Ok - I am glad you saw where I was coming from with that!

 

[titans]

So I checked with the my friend and i really wasnt thrilled with his diamonds, so I am just going to tell him that I thought it over and I really like this other one better, now I just have to decide, do I go with the WF, James Allen, or Local jeweler Diamond.

All are right around the same price and I still might have my buddy get me the setting, so I think I am just going to buy the stone elsewhere and let him assemble it for me.

So which one should I choose, it seems like everyone was leaning towards either the jewellery store one or WF.

Any final thoughs

Thanks again

also for some reason my account as 916 wont allow me to access it, so i had to go back to my old name.

 

[Lorelei]

I like the WF diamond best. Just to mention that maybe consider letting WF set it, if your friend did and something went wrong, he might not take responsibility if he damaged the diamond accidentally - this is rare but it can happen. WF will assume responsibility when setting for a diamond they sold.

 

[titans]

Thanks Lorelei,
I was actually leaning towards the WF one as well. I was also thinking the same thing about letting them set it, just becuase like you said if anything did go wrong, I know they will be responsible, plus I am sure they will get the best looking diamonds for the setting as well.

It just going to be hard for me to tell my friend that I am not going with him, but Its a big decision and alot of money, and I have spent a long time trying to find the perfect diamond and setting. So it wouldnt make sense just to go with one becuase I am friends with the provider. Im hoping he will understand.

By the way, one of the diamonds I was showed had a 68 table??? didnt even know that was possible, it got a 9 on the HCA.

I''m still a little weary about buying a ring online. I have three main concerns.
1. What if it needs to get resized?
2. What if something happens and either the center diamond or side diamonds gets lose and/or falls out.(mainly for the side diamonds)?
3. What about getting it cleaned or polished, I know my friend can take it back to his jeweller to get the ring cleaned and polished whenever he wants, but with this being online, there really is no way?

Thanks

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 2/1/2009 9:23:08 AM
Author: titans
Thanks Lorelei,
I was actually leaning towards the WF one as well. I was also thinking the same thing about letting them set it, just becuase like you said if anything did go wrong, I know they will be responsible, plus I am sure they will get the best looking diamonds for the setting as well.

It just going to be hard for me to tell my friend that I am not going with him, but Its a big decision and alot of money, and I have spent a long time trying to find the perfect diamond and setting. So it wouldnt make sense just to go with one becuase I am friends with the provider. Im hoping he will understand.

By the way, one of the diamonds I was showed had a 68 table??? didnt even know that was possible, it got a 9 on the HCA.

I'm still a little weary about buying a ring online. I have three main concerns.
1. What if it needs to get resized?
2. What if something happens and either the center diamond or side diamonds gets lose and/or falls out.(mainly for the side diamonds)?
3. What about getting it cleaned or polished, I know my friend can take it back to his jeweller to get the ring cleaned and polished whenever he wants, but with this being online, there really is no way?

Thanks

I think it is a good decision Titans to not go with the friend, with such an important and expensive purchase I always think it is best to stick to a neutral party so to speak. Yes, there are diamonds out there with such proportions - how did it look???

Ok onto your concerns.

1) You could send the ring back to WF and they could resize it for you, alternatively if this doesn't void any setting warranty then a local jeweller could do it if it is a plain shank you choose.

2) Make sure you have insurance to cover any such loss, but check prongs regularly, a local jeweller whom you trust can check the ring for you and tighten any prongs if needed.

3) Any good jeweller can clean and or polish your ring either for minimal expense or as a goodwill gesture to try to win you as a customer. But you might find your ring holds up well anyway with routine home cleaning - or if the ring you choose doesn't have tiny pave set diamonds, you could buy an ultrasonic and clean it yourself.

And you are most welcome!

 

[titans]

Thanks
The ring I am choosing is going to have tiny pave settings. I think I am going with the amphora by wf. So I probally wouldnt be able to do the ultrasonic at home. A friend of mine bought one from a jeweller about an hour and a half from us, so I guess he wouldnt almost be in the same boat as me, with cleanings and such as well.

The diamond he showed me actually looked nice, but again I am no expert. I think they all look nice just by looking at them, for the most part. I have seen some clowdy or dingy looking ones at places I have stopped in. But this one was cleary and shiny, I was shocked what the proportions where though. And the price wasnt even that great.
68 table
60.3 depth
33.5 crown
42.2 pavillion
H Si1

Any advice on what I should tell my friend. He''s about 30 years older then me so hopefully he will understand. I was thinking of just telling him, I went home and went over all my notes on all the diamonds I saw, and I still really like this other one that I saw, and the guy told me he could do it with a similiar setting for pretty cheap.

The difference in price was going to be about 300 dollars between using my friend and using WF

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 2/1/2009 9:46:26 AM
Author: titans
Thanks
The ring I am choosing is going to have tiny pave settings. I think I am going with the amphora by wf. So I probally wouldnt be able to do the ultrasonic at home. A friend of mine bought one from a jeweller about an hour and a half from us, so I guess he wouldnt almost be in the same boat as me, with cleanings and such as well.

The diamond he showed me actually looked nice, but again I am no expert. I think they all look nice just by looking at them, for the most part. I have seen some clowdy or dingy looking ones at places I have stopped in. But this one was cleary and shiny, I was shocked what the proportions where though. And the price wasnt even that great.
68 table
60.3 depth
33.5 crown
42.2 pavillion
H Si1

Any advice on what I should tell my friend. He''s about 30 years older then me so hopefully he will understand. I was thinking of just telling him, I went home and went over all my notes on all the diamonds I saw, and I still really like this other one that I saw, and the guy told me he could do it with a similiar setting for pretty cheap.

The difference in price was going to be about 300 dollars between using my friend and using WF

Yuck! Those are not good proportions! Also jewellery store lights can be deceptive and make anything sparkle, so it can be hard to see the results of an inferior cut anyway - until you are alone with the diamond.....

Your plan sounds fine to me and I know you can do this without jeapordizing your friendship with this chap. You could add you are a researcher by nature and found PS for example and really got interested in learning and comparing, and this is how you have decided to proceed. If he is a true friend and wants a good outcome for you then he will understand!

 

[titans]

Yeah, thanks, thats what I am going to do, Im sure he will understand, because even when he said he would bring in a couple stones for me to look at I didnt say I would def use him. I say ok good, let me take a look and ill make a decision based on everything Ive seen.

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 2/1/2009 1:10:39 PM
Author: titans
Yeah, thanks, thats what I am going to do, Im sure he will understand, because even when he said he would bring in a couple stones for me to look at I didnt say I would def use him. I say ok good, let me take a look and ill make a decision based on everything Ive seen.

Thats good to know!