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Urgent Help Needed - Diamond Selection for Engagement Ring

Dreamer_D said:
Its unlikely that you can get a diamond for less money from a B&M locally, all else being equal. So you could look for a non-branded, non-super ideal online and likely save money that way. The benefit of in person buying is seeing the diamond in person and being able to select that way! When that is taken out of the equation, its just paying more for not much benefit IMO.
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Great points. Where would you suggest I look for a non-branded, non-super ideal diamond online? JA and the like? Thanks again for the help!
 
People have suggested stones from well known vendors is this thread already. Whiteflash has an expert selection line that is more affordable (and still very well cut). I have bought from James Allen and they have a very large selection. Blue Nile. In all cases you can get good imagery and a good return policy. Post selections for feedback.
 
freddyboston said:
if you can do Medium.. This 1.42 F VS1 w/ 55 table 35/40.6 (some paddling 9oclock) but should have nice fire GIA ID 6234318131

Better price $7998 Adiamor

1.42 Carat F VS1 Round Brilliant Natural Diamond GIA Certified Affinity Cut - D61259497

1.42 carat, Round, F Color, VS1 clarity, GIA Certified Diamond, Affinity Cut Natural Diamond, D61259497
www.adiamor.com www.adiamor.com
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A nice option.
 
Dreamer_D said:
Perfect. But don’t spend more than you feel comfortable spending! G or H color will be plenty white with this nice cut.
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At this point, I will pay the extra bit for a diamond I can be certain will sparkle well and be eye clean. I think I am going to go with this one unless you see any other issues. Thanks again for all of your help I honestly feel relieved having found this.
 
Flirtymurty said:
Thoughts on this diamond? https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-di...-vs2-clarity-round-excellent-cut-sku-a4678017
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I think that's the one I posted at the beginning!

Reach out to Whiteflash and have them compare it to this one: https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-di...-vs2-clarity-round-excellent-cut-sku-a4691039

And ask if there's anything else in the price and size range they would suggest.

If the other one is a 'high' H, that could very well be white enough for you. I may have missed this but have you decided how you're going to set it? It would be nice to get the whole package at Whiteflash if we can find you a setting you like.
 
newtojewels said:
I think that's the one I posted at the beginning!

Reach out to Whiteflash and have them compare it to this one: https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-di...-vs2-clarity-round-excellent-cut-sku-a4691039

And ask if there's anything else in the price and size range they would suggest.

If the other one is a 'high' H, that could very well be white enough for you. I may have missed this but have you decided how you're going to set it? It would be nice to get the whole package at Whiteflash if we can find you a setting you like.
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I am sorry I missed it! Great find! I actually really don't mind paying a bit more for a large jump in color. I also took a look at the ASET images and there seems to be a bit more contrast in the middle near the arrows compared to the 1.3 F diamond. My only concern even though it is a VS2 are the inclusions.
 
newtojewels said:
I think that's the one I posted at the beginning!

Reach out to Whiteflash and have them compare it to this one: https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-di...-vs2-clarity-round-excellent-cut-sku-a4691039

And ask if there's anything else in the price and size range they would suggest.

If the other one is a 'high' H, that could very well be white enough for you. I may have missed this but have you decided how you're going to set it? It would be nice to get the whole package at Whiteflash if we can find you a setting you like.
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And yes I would like to set it there as well. Seems like the lead time will work out perfect.
 
Flirtymurty said:
And yes I would like to set it there as well. Seems like the lead time will work out perfect.
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One of the things you're paying for from Whiteflash is the service. They'll be honest with you. Think about your definition of "eye clean" -- which might be something like 'no inclusions at any distance from any angle' -- and ask them about it and if they have any other stones they recommend instead. I do think it's worth spending money on a once-in-a-lifetime-type purchase but I'm completely biased because my partner and I just totally blew the planned budget on a stone for me. But you don't want to think later, "oh I see some tint (or inclusions or whatever), I should have gotten the better quality diamond".

Have you chosen a setting style? Solitaire? 3 stone? Halo? 4 prong? 6 prong? A lot of people here have some of their more popular ones so you can see some real life photos. If you haven't chosen, I'll link some of the popular ones.
 
newtojewels said:
One of the things you're paying for from Whiteflash is the service. They'll be honest with you. Think about your definition of "eye clean" -- which might be something like 'no inclusions at any distance from any angle' -- and ask them about it and if they have any other stones they recommend instead. I do think it's worth spending money on a once-in-a-lifetime-type purchase but I'm completely biased because my partner and I just totally blew the planned budget on a stone for me. But you don't want to think later, "oh I see some tint (or inclusions or whatever), I should have gotten the better quality diamond".

Have you chosen a setting style? Solitaire? 3 stone? Halo? 4 prong? 6 prong? A lot of people here have some of their more popular ones so you can see some real life photos. If you haven't chosen, I'll link some of the popular ones.
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I too think it is worth it to pay for the service and quality that comes from Whiteflash. I will definitely ask more questions about the diamond. I do enjoy the 30 day return window. The setting I am looking at a solitaire 4 prong (peg most likely but possibly claw), 14k yellow gold band with white gold prongs. No diamonds on the ring just a basic round (no knifes edge) ~2 mm thick band. Her requirement is that the wedding band in the future sits flush against her engagement ring. Potentially a basket setting but not a cathedral. Open to suggestions on basket vs no basket and claw vs round
 
Flirtymurty said:
I too think it is worth it to pay for the service and quality that comes from Whiteflash. I will definitely ask more questions about the diamond. I do enjoy the 30 day return window. The setting I am looking at a solitaire 4 prong (peg most likely but possibly claw), 14k yellow gold band with white gold prongs. No diamonds on the ring just a basic round (no knifes edge) ~2 mm thick band. Her requirement is that the wedding band in the future sits flush against her engagement ring. Potentially a basket setting but not a cathedral. Open to suggestions on basket vs no basket and claw vs round
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Here are Whiteflash's prong styles:
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The Ultimate Guide to Prong Settings | Whiteflash

The popular prong setting continues to be a first choice for engagement rings. Learn everything you need to know about the timeless style in our ultimate guide.
www.whiteflash.com

And a setting to think about. I prefer a gallery rail to no gallery rail because it 'feels' sturdier to me (I think this is what you mean by a "basket". I know you said no cathedral but I'm going to put this out there anyways because it's classic, more secure than a peg-head, and because I like cathedrals. Several people here have this setting:

The Legato Sleekline:

Legato Sleek Line Diamond Solitaire | 1022

Legato Sleek Line Diamond Solitaire. A solitaire that beautifully captures the essence of love. | 1022
www.whiteflash.com

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Someone recently posted a ring on Reddit that is bending at the junction between the head and the shank and this is something that is more likely to happen without a cathedral or 'donut'.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Diamonds/comments/1flkxys/help_crooked_crown_or_stone
 
newtojewels said:
Here are Whiteflash's prong styles:
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The Ultimate Guide to Prong Settings | Whiteflash

The popular prong setting continues to be a first choice for engagement rings. Learn everything you need to know about the timeless style in our ultimate guide.
www.whiteflash.com

And a setting to think about. I prefer a gallery rail to no gallery rail because it 'feels' sturdier to me (I think this is what you mean by a "basket". I know you said no cathedral but I'm going to put this out there anyways because it's classic, more secure than a peg-head, and because I like cathedrals. Several people here have this setting:

The Legato Sleekline:

Legato Sleek Line Diamond Solitaire | 1022

Legato Sleek Line Diamond Solitaire. A solitaire that beautifully captures the essence of love. | 1022
www.whiteflash.com

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Someone recently posted a ring on Reddit that is bending at the junction between the head and the shank and this is something that is more likely to happen without a cathedral or 'donut'.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Diamonds/comments/1flkxys/help_crooked_crown_or_stone
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Okay I'm not going to lie, you may have convinced me on the cathedral. That sleekline looks...sleek! I assume this would allow a band to sit flush? Would either one of these options allow for it? I assume I should probably consult with their customer service :)

Broadway Solitaire Engagement Ring | 505

The Broadway Solitaire Engagement Ring, a symbol of affection that echoes the vibrancy of love. | 505
www.whiteflash.com

4-Prong Classic Diamond Solitaire | 588

Elevate your style with a timeless 4-prong classic diamond solitaire ring. Perfect for any occasion, this stunning piece is a must-have for any jewelry collection. | 588
www.whiteflash.com
 
Flirtymurty said:
Okay I'm not going to lie, you may have convinced me on the cathedral. That sleekline looks...sleek! I assume this would allow a band to sit flush? Would either one of these options allow for it? I assume I should probably consult with their customer service :)

Broadway Solitaire Engagement Ring | 505

The Broadway Solitaire Engagement Ring, a symbol of affection that echoes the vibrancy of love. | 505
www.whiteflash.com

4-Prong Classic Diamond Solitaire | 588

Elevate your style with a timeless 4-prong classic diamond solitaire ring. Perfect for any occasion, this stunning piece is a must-have for any jewelry collection. | 588
www.whiteflash.com
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In my opinion the first one you linked looks bulky and the second one has a knife edge and just looks a little less elegant.

A small band should sit flush with the Legato but something tall might not.

Here are some threads:
pictured with several bands: https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/legato-sleek-line.238508/

wider band that isn't flush: https://www.pricescope.com/communit...ith-legato-sleek-line-engagement-ring.120411/

just a chat about it: https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/sleekline-legato-thoughts.171913/

It's more than 2mm wide but looks more delicate with that pinch towards the stone and I think some people in those threads have had it customized narrower.
 
newtojewels said:
In my opinion the first one you linked looks bulky and the second one has a knife edge and just looks a little less elegant.

A small band should sit flush with the Legato but something tall might not.

Here are some threads:
pictured with several bands: https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/legato-sleek-line.238508/

wider band that isn't flush: https://www.pricescope.com/communit...ith-legato-sleek-line-engagement-ring.120411/

just a chat about it: https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/sleekline-legato-thoughts.171913/

It's more than 2mm wide but looks more delicate with that pinch towards the stone and I think some people in those threads have had it customized narrower.
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Thanks for linking these! I am now a bit concerned about finding an adequate setting at WF as it seems like most bands dont sit flush unless it is plain and small.
 
Flirtymurty said:
Thanks for linking these! I am now a bit concerned about finding an adequate setting at WF as it seems like most bands dont sit flush unless it is plain and small.
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That's not just at Whiteflash, that's kind of the nature of the beast. People who want a big band either need to have the solitaire set very high, buy a curved band, or embrace the gap. But a standard band won't have a gap with the Sleekline. Look at this set again! There's a "gap" where the band tapers, but that contributes to the more delicate look and can help the diamond seem bigger. If you don't like it, though, there are non-tapered setting options. A pricier but really nice one is the Vatche Caroline which has some diamonds in the gallery rail. But again, call them tomorrow and just talk to them about your concerns!

Legato:
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Caroline:

Caroline Solitaire Engagement Ring by Vatche | 4637

Vatche's Caroline Solitaire Engagement Ring captivates with its timeless simplicity and enduring charm. | 4637
www.whiteflash.com
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For whatever it's worth, I actually like the look of a small gap. Here's a thread with a lot of photos of both options: https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/show-me-team-gap-vs-team-no-gap.275045/ But again, there should absolutely be flush and not-plain options for the Legato. Here's one! https://www.whiteflash.com/wedding-rings/legato-sleek-line-pave-diamond-wedding-band-1296.htm

Not that I'm trying to force you into cathedral and a gap when you said that's exactly what you didn't want! I just want you to see the options so the decision is an informed one.
 
newtojewels said:
That's not just at Whiteflash, that's kind of the nature of the beast. People who want a big band either need to have the solitaire set very high, buy a curved band, or embrace the gap. But a standard band won't have a gap with the Sleekline. Look at this set again! There's a "gap" where the band tapers, but that contributes to the more delicate look and can help the diamond seem bigger. If you don't like it, though, there are non-tapered setting options. A pricier but really nice one is the Vatche Caroline which has some diamonds in the gallery rail. But again, call them tomorrow and just talk to them about your concerns!

Legato:
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Caroline:

Caroline Solitaire Engagement Ring by Vatche | 4637

Vatche's Caroline Solitaire Engagement Ring captivates with its timeless simplicity and enduring charm. | 4637
www.whiteflash.com
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For whatever it's worth, I actually like the look of a small gap. Here's a thread with a lot of photos of both options: https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/show-me-team-gap-vs-team-no-gap.275045/ But again, there should absolutely be flush and not-plain options for the Legato. Here's one! https://www.whiteflash.com/wedding-rings/legato-sleek-line-pave-diamond-wedding-band-1296.htm

Not that I'm trying to force you into cathedral and a gap when you said that's exactly what you didn't want! I just want you to see the options so the decision is an informed one.
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Here are some images from what she considered flush IMG_8686.pngIMG_8685.pngIMG_8684.png
 
If you are doing a yellow gold setting + no side stones you could go down in color and get a larger or less expesnive ACA @ WF...You might want to ask them to show you video's of their larger I / J stones to compare size/color to the F

my favorite combos are SBlue D's in plat and (Yellow FL) K's in 18k Yellow
 
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I had the legato many years ago and it is a gorgeous setting and sits very flush with bands. There is a teensy little bit of air around the basket but so hard to see. And the basket is lovely. Highly recommend! It will give the look of those inspiration images.

The only issue is the shank is delicate and so it pairs best with delicate wedding bands not shared ring diamond bands for example. But the inspiration images are all delicate bands so maybe not an issue.

I would go with the legato in your shoes. But talk to your rep at WF. They are knowledgeable and helpful.
 
newtojewels said:
Based off of that, you might ask about this one. I think I see a hidden halo on that ring. I haven't seen a real life photo of this one on PS but maybe someone had one. https://www.whiteflash.com/engageme...idden-halo-solitaire-engagement-ring-7804.htm
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Thanks for the link! She actually doesnt want a halo or any other diamonds on the band/engagement ring other than the main diamond. I think at this point I am leaning towards the legato but would like to discuss with WF a bit more
 
Flirtymurty said:
Thanks for the link! She actually doesnt want a halo or any other diamonds on the band/engagement ring other than the main diamond. I think at this point I am leaning towards the legato but would like to discuss with WF a bit more
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I think you are in a MUCH better spot than yesterday! I’m so glad you took a day to look a bit more before you rushed into a stone. WF will take very good care of you! I’m excited to hear how everything turns out!
 
lavenderdragonfly23 said:
I think you are in a MUCH better spot than yesterday! I’m so glad you took a day to look a bit more before you rushed into a stone. WF will take very good care of you! I’m excited to hear how everything turns out!
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I agree! And I credit that to everyone who commented and provided some insight! Very much appreciated. I will update as things progress if need be!
 
Feel free to pop back here with questions or opinions! We all love looking at beautiful stones!
 
 
Have you seen GIA graded diamonds in person? How familiar are you and the wearer with diamonds in general? How about your social circle?

Seeing videos unfortunately won’t help you decide much about how you feel about color. You probably will see a color difference in the video when stones are side by side. In person viewed alone these kinds of differences are much harder to see. Much harder still when you are new to diamonds.

I like the big J myself.
 
All are beautiful and I hope the side by side video will help you zone in on “the one”. I’m drawn to the 1.3 H VS2 and the 1.4 G VS2. But, you can’t make a wrong choice with this lineup!!
 
Dreamer_D said:
Have you seen GIA graded diamonds in person? How familiar are you and the wearer with diamonds in general? How about your social circle?

Seeing videos unfortunately won’t help you decide much about how you feel about color. You probably will see a color difference in the video when stones are side by side. In person viewed alone these kinds of differences are much harder to see. Much harder still when you are new to diamonds.

I like the big J myself.
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Yes I have seen an assortment of GIA graded diamonds in person (~15). From the diamonds I saw, I was comfortable with an I color or above albeit, those diamonds weren't necessarily ACA. The 1.4 ct is enticing though. I too hope the video will provide some insight but I am aware that it won't be fully representative of in person visual appearance. In terms of the inclusions of the diamonds, do you have any concerns? I know all of them are VS so I shouldn't be able to see them but at this point I am not sure if color and carat are the only 2 items I should be juggling. Thanks again!!
 
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