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To all of the lovely PSers who majored in English: I sincerely apologize for my battery of the english language here on PS!
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Date: 6/18/2007 11:51:57 PM
Author: Love in Bloom
To all of the lovely PSers who majored in English: I sincerely apologize for my battery of the english language here on PS!
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Are you kidding??? I''m one of the worst offenders. LOL.
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No apologies needed.
TRUST ME.
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Date: 6/18/2007 7:09:28 PM
Author: Pandora II

Date: 6/18/2007 4:21:12 PM
Author: Krissie
This is so fun - I''m enjoying reading about you all!

My turn ... I''m a hedge fund lawyer in London. Worked in the US for 2 years post-law school, then moved over here for a change of pace and more networking opportunities! I love it here but will move back to the US in January 2008.

The fiance-like substance is a lawyer as well, which goes to show that I should never say never ... I clearly remember proclaiming on numerous occasions that I would never date another lawyer
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He''s a nice one, though
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Now I''m intrigued - one of my bosses is the co-owner of a very successful London-based hedgefund, and being in fundraising I come across a lot of the CEO''s. They all seem to make lads of ££££££, feel guilty and decide they need to get into politics to save the world and poor people! Nice people on the whole though.

Seems like a fascinating business although one of my colleagues is dating a guy who is setting one up and she is soooo miserable because he is always at work!
I have been to a couple of really fabulous fundraisers in London - but have yet to meet a HF manager with a guilty conscience
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I really love my job. The hours can be tough, but luckily the boy has a similar schedule so it''s not as bad.
 
I want to play too...

I work in a US investment bank and I run an operations risk management team for a particular line of business in Asia Pacific. Stressful job, but it allows me to work from home twice a week -- since my direct reports are scattered all over Asia, it makes no difference to them whether I work from the office or from home.
 
Date: 6/19/2007 3:12:36 AM
Author: SanDiegoLady

Date: 6/18/2007 2:46:36 PM
Author: woobug02
Mara, hehehehe......no...... but......My license plates say ''WOOOO''....hehehehe
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rofl toooo cute.. Mine is exactly: O MY
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TOO funny!! Both of you.
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LiB, no need to apologize, you''re fine!
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Wow it''s so interesting finding out what everyone does!

I''m a perioperative nurse in the operating theatre of one of our city''s major hospitals. Most nurses I work with either scrub, or do anaesthetics and/or recovery, but I thoroughly enjoy all three. My scrub specialty is urology, but I really love the anaesthetic side of major cases as well. It''s always exciting and challenging, and even though death is sadly part and parcel of the job, I think it''s taought me alot in the ways of dealing with grief, and resilience towards difficult or tragic situations when needed.

I was recently promoted (12 months ago) to Associate Nurse Unit Manager, which at my age (25) is uncommon but not unheard of. I was looking for something new and a bit of a different challenge, but unfortunately it isn''t the challenge I was hungering for. I''ve chosen to resign from management, because it''s really made me realise how passionate I am about my clinical work, which I don''t get to do in an administrative position. I love my job and can''t imagine doing anything else!
 
It really IS cool to find out what everyone does for a living!! So much so, I thought I''d join the party:

I am an attorney working for the Fed''l Government in the IP field (specifically trademarks). The best thing about my job is that I am telecommunter so I am not fighting Washington DC area traffic everyday. And on occasion I come across some interesting Trademark stuff involving the entertainment industry and also as a bonus...diamonds/precious stones and other jewelry, etc. I recently worked with a major jewelry designer (whose name ends in the letter "I") to get a mark registered. What was funny is that my PS experience kicked in right away!! But for PS, I would have never known a thing about jewelry and the importance of the design of an engagement ring for instance, and I know for a fact that being a part of the PS community affected my decisions in that case.

I''d have to say that the biggest benefit of my job is seeing your "handiwork" out in the marketplace.
 
"And as for making money with an English degree, don't be so quick to dismiss teachers! I'm not sure where you live, but we start our high school teachers at 45K a year with only a bachelor's degree and NO experience. It isn't huge, but it's not too bad. (For a 21 year-old with no experience, at least.) A master's will get you about 10K more to start. Most of my colleagues retire at age 52 making 120K, and they have a life-long pension of 80% of that (math people--what is that, 96K?) Not too shabby for nine months a year, I'll say."

Haven, it definitely depends on where you live and even then within the districts there are huge fluctuations. Here in certain districts you can work for 25 or 30 years as a teacher, and retire making something like 65k. In the 2nd most expensive area to live after NYC (and sometimes we beat out NYC depending on the year). It's very sad actually, so many less 'useful' careers make so much more!!!
 
Folks, an English Major is the KEY to being successful in life!
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In an English major, there isn''t a 2+2=4. It''s SO subjective! To be successful as an English major, your objective is to go into class, size up the professor, figure out what he wants to hear and tell him just that. Doesn''t matter how good your essays are...if he doesn''t see it that way, you aren''t going to get a good grade. It''s essentially all bullsh*t. That''s why I call my major a BA in BS!

But then that''s what life is all about. Communication, people skills (and oh yeah, bullsh*t). You meet a person and figure out what makes them tick. Give ''em what they want to get what you want.

So looking at it that way, any wonder that this little English major is in sales and is really damn good it at?
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TravelingGal, your post made me laugh--it's just SO true! Some of my most successful peers are working jobs that their majors (Communications, English, LAS, etc.) only vaguely prepared them for.

As for me, I recently graduated from USC with a BA in Theatre and a minor in Dance. A recipe for financial success
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But I love it! So now I am, big surprise, an actor in Los Angeles. Which basically means I work a LOT of different entertainment-related jobs (sometimes on-camera, sometimes not) to get by. FI has a slightly more reliable job--recording engineer. Our friends tell us we're "so LA," haha
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Date: 6/19/2007 1:57:00 PM
Author: TravelingGal
Folks, an English Major is the KEY to being successful in life!
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In an English major, there isn''t a 2+2=4. It''s SO subjective! To be successful as an English major, your objective is to go into class, size up the professor, figure out what he wants to hear and tell him just that. Doesn''t matter how good your essays are...if he doesn''t see it that way, you aren''t going to get a good grade. It''s essentially all bullsh*t. That''s why I call my major a BA in BS!

But then that''s what life is all about. Communication, people skills (and oh yeah, bullsh*t). You meet a person and figure out what makes them tick. Give ''em what they want to get what you want.

So looking at it that way, any wonder that this little English major is in sales and is really damn good it at?
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OMFG TG!!! That''s EXACTLY what I''ve always said about being an English major.

It''s a RARE (nearly extinct) Lit Teacher who actually CARES what you think. It''s mostly regurgitation and re-statement.

By my 3rd year I barely read my assignments anymore. Just took great notes, and studied for the exams (if it was open book-- forgetabout studying... just read and studied during the exam.)... got straight A''s. At a really good university too. Was even asked to publish a few times cause my work was ''brilliant"-- it''s amazing that you are called brilliant when all you are doing is restated what they said in the first place in a new and flashy way.
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I never published cause I felt like a fraud. In retrospect, I should have published though.
 
I don't know, I found my major to be very challenging IF you tried to never regurgitate and actually come up with original ideas. That said I have always complained that I can work my a** off 24/7 as a complit major and someone who puts in far less work and just writes decent papers which regurg the professor's ideas will make the same grade. There's not a lot of "spread" in grading.

The few times I was really overworked and tired I did just BS papers and still got an A. this used to make me soooooo angry, although I guess it got me what I needed (a good grade).
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I was in the hall once and heard two teachers talking about grades in English, one said yeah, I had a few REALLY terrible papers this time, looks like there will be a few B's.....I said "Sheesh, give them a C! Reward the people who do great work" and they just laughed at me...

I suppose the language thing makes it slightly different from English (complit is comparative literature, it's the same thing I just work in different languages most of the time). But it's similar enough to have many of the same problems.


RE: preperation for the job mkt. It did train me to think very analytically, and I think I would make a good lawyer, advertising or publishing person. BUT I will say it can effect people's perceptions of you. OUr school career officer knew me and FI. When I was researching backup careers in case I didn't get into grad school or get the fulbright, she said, no kidding, "Well you could be a schoolteacher or work for a historical organization...your FI will have a fancy job in consulting or business, I wouldn't worry!"
 
Hi Rainbow... you know when I got a REALLY good teacher, who was genuinely intersted in the exchange of ideas, I LOVED IT. And I really excelled at those classes (you didn''t see a big grade difference as I was getting A''s in the regurgitation classes too) and I got very close to those professors and we had great talks about literature and poetry-- all out of class in office hours or out for coffee. And I took their classes -- even the ones I wasn''t that interested in orginally-- just because they were so good. And I notice that THEY graded much stricter than the other professors. I used to get accuse of being a kiss arse in those courses because I would get either the only A or one of the few A''s ... and the rest would get B, C''s and even D''s. But I WORKED in those classes, I really read everything, even stuff that wasn''t assigned but would have bearing on the topic so that I would REALLY be an informed writer.


Which is my my ''good'' professors REALLY REALLY discouraged me from going to lawschool and were recommending me to their contacts in Masters/ PhD programs-- I would get solicitations to apply to programs I hadn''t even inquired about, and the solicitations were personal... written to me, mentioned the referring professor and hand signed.

I didn''t take the GRE though cause my family convinced me that LawSchool would bring more money, faster. Plus prestige.

It''s one of my greatest regrets that I didn''t follow the advice of my professors.

There are great English and Lit teachers out there. You just have to be willing to show them that your worth their time-- and aren''t just in it for the wham, bang, thank you for the grade ma''am.
 
Date: 6/18/2007 9:12:21 PM
Author: KimberlyH

Date: 6/18/2007 7:14:38 PM
Author: poptart


Date: 6/18/2007 2:45:56 PM
Author: Dee*Jay
By day I am the Chief Compliance Officer for a hedge fund manager and by night/weekend I''m a real estate agent. As for an English degree--that''s what I''ve got too! I spent 1-1/2 miserable years in law school before I bolted, and then ended up many years later with a masters degree in financial markets, with more than half of my classes being taken in the law school anyway. Go figure!
Well, it gives me some hope that there is another English degree out there actually making money, haha. So many become teachers and no one understood why I was majoring in English if I wasn''t going to teach. Close minded, I''d say.

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Just you wait, poptart! I earned a BA-English and here I am 7 years later back in school getting my M.Ed/multiple subject teaching credential. If you told me 5 years ago that this is what I''d be doing I''d have told you ''you''re crazy!''

In all seriousneess, I hope you find the perfect non-teaching job for you...they do exist, they are just hard to come by.
Me too! Well, I have a minor in English, not a BA. When I was younger I wanted to be a teacher and then I just decided that I DID NOT want to teach. My mom is a teacher, as is her sister, and a lot of of friends are too. I swore I wouldn''t do it. Then I went to grad school 7 years ago and I changed my mind. Working in schools just feels right to me. Working with kids has always felt right. Years ago though, I would have said people were crazy too if they suggested it.
 
Date: 6/18/2007 11:42:41 PM
Author: Haven
Poptart--I''m going to second Kimberly''s response! And since you have an English degree, you should know that studying literature prepared you to think critically, to develop original ideas, and to solve problems. I always planned on becoming a college prof with my English degree, and I taught college for a while, but here I am now teaching high school.

And as for making money with an English degree, don''t be so quick to dismiss teachers! I''m not sure where you live, but we start our high school teachers at 45K a year with only a bachelor''s degree and NO experience. It isn''t huge, but it''s not too bad. (For a 21 year-old with no experience, at least.) A master''s will get you about 10K more to start. Most of my colleagues retire at age 52 making 120K, and they have a life-long pension of 80% of that (math people--what is that, 96K?) Not too shabby for nine months a year, I''ll say. A lot of my peers from law school started out making far less in law than I did in education--and they had MUCH more school tuition debt!

But, of course, any teacher will tell you that you will not survive teaching if you are working for the money.

Speaking of English majors and law school--how many of us on here have a B.A. in English and attended at least some law school? I count at least four--seems like a common path! How funny.

Really??? Where is this? I''m definitely in the wrong district, and my district is really good and higher paying than others.
 
Date: 6/19/2007 2:19:48 PM
Author: musey
TravelingGal, your post made me laugh--it''s just SO true! Some of my most successful peers are working jobs that their majors (Communications, English, LAS, etc.) only vaguely prepared them for.

As for me, I recently graduated from USC with a BA in Theatre and a minor in Dance. A recipe for financial success
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But I love it! So now I am, big surprise, an actor in Los Angeles. Which basically means I work a LOT of different entertainment-related jobs (sometimes on-camera, sometimes not) to get by. FI has a slightly more reliable job--recording engineer. Our friends tell us we''re ''so LA,'' haha
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Cool musey! Have you been in anything we might know? My sister has the same degrees as you and she''s an actress, playwright, etc. Her husband does lighting and sound design.
 
I have a...

BA in English
BS in Criminal Justice
MBA in Business Management
Juris Doctorate

What does that all add up to?

A lawyer who sells diamonds!

Tim
 

I didn''t take the GRE though cause my family convinced me that LawSchool would bring more money, faster. Plus prestige.


It''s one of my greatest regrets that I didn''t follow the advice of my professors.


Gypsy, my uncle is in a similar position - a lawyer who pines for the life of an English professor. He''s had a very successful and interesting career in law, but part of him is still wistful.

Given the realities of the job market for English Ph.D.s, it''s probably just as well, and I wasn''t so thrilled with the professorial life. (but I''m a fugitive from academe so I have a certain perspecitve
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Great perspective though Clio!

I honestly think that at this point it would be best for me to finish one of my started Novels, and then another... and then another. Once (and If) I get a few of them finished then I will be in a position to solicit editors and start that process. I really am hoping that once I get a few health issues worked out I can focus on that again.

That, I believe is the right balance for me. Writing while working on my novels... then publishing and working would give me the right balance between $$ and creativity.
 
I''ve been

an editor
a policy analyst
a wildlife rehabilitator (my favorite occupation)
and am currently a director of human resources which is a lot like being in charge of kiddie day care.
 
I''m a fellow English major myself. I''ve got a BA in English-writing with double minors in History and Art History. I then went on to get a MA in Publishing and Communications. Currently I''m a Development Editor for a custom higher-ed publisher in Boston. Basically we''re the solution to the question of "Do I really have to buy ALL of those books?!?!" Professors commission my company to create custom books for their classes. Say you''re a professor and you want to use 6 books in your class but your curriculum only requires select chapters from each of the books. My job is to take those books and edit them so they read like an original book. There are a lot of different quality levels to the process and our services, but that''s the gist. In the end the students buy one book for a fraction of the cost of what they would have paid for all 6. That''s my career in a nutshell.
 
I am a nurse in a pediatric intensive care unit. I work part-time as a nurse, and part-time as a nurse-educator.
Before that I was a middle school/high school mathematics teacher.
I have 2 bachelor''s degrees, my family teases me that I could have been a doctor with all my years of undergrad! (But I don''t think I would have liked that route.) I am at least using some of my education training in my nurse educator role.
 
Date: 6/19/2007 5:56:27 PM
Author: zoebartlett

Cool musey! Have you been in anything we might know?
Doubtful... if any of you recognized any of the work I've done so far, I would seriously question your taste in TV/film!
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I've only been at it for a little over a year, so hopefully the better projects are on their way!
 
To everyone who just had to regurgitate ideas to get by in your undergraduate English courses--you REALLY missed out! I''m so sorry you had profs who didn''t expect more from their students. I had the opposite experience--I had excellent professors, and I was in a University Scholar/Honors program so I had the opportunity to take all honors classes with eight to 12 students tops. I went to a huge university, but I think the small class size must have made all the difference. You can''t BS a prof who a) is passionate about his life''s work and research, and b) only has twelve papers to grade. And the exchange of ideas--oh man! I miss my undergrad classes so much! I left every single class energized and with loads of new ideas floating around my dizzy mind.

And if anyone ever asks you to publish--PUBLISH! I published so many essays in college, and I truly think that is what earned me all of my post-graduate scholarships. I would owe the government a lot of money in school loans right now if I never published as an undergrad!

ZoeB--I teach in the northern suburbs of Chicago. Most of the salary schedules for high school districts around here start in the low to mid 40s for a BA, and the low to mid 50s for an MA and no experience. We have a stipulation in our contract that we must be one of the top five highest paid districts in the county, which is really good assurance that we will continue to earn competitive salaries. Do you teach high school? I do know that middle school and elementary salary schedules are much lower than high school, which is RIDICULOUS, but unfortunately very true.
 
Date: 6/19/2007 9:03:16 PM
Author: Haven

I teach in the northern suburbs of Chicago. Most of the salary schedules for high school districts around here start in the low to mid 40s for a BA, and the low to mid 50s for an MA and no experience. We have a stipulation in our contract that we must be one of the top five highest paid districts in the county, which is really good assurance that we will continue to earn competitive salaries. Do you teach high school? I do know that middle school and elementary salary schedules are much lower than high school, which is RIDICULOUS, but unfortunately very true.
That is true of many of the Philly suburb public schools too... a few years ago when I was considering school counseling, I was interning with a district who would have offered me well over $50k with my masters (and no experience), according to their teacher pay scale. And the counselor supervising me was making over $100k. I totally agree that you cannot go into teaching for the money, but if you ARE interested in teaching, you do not necessarily have to resign yourself to a life of poverty... I would have made far more money doing school counseling, for less overall work days per year, than most non-public school counseling positions would pay me.
 
"Domestic Engineer" here! but I also like the term "Domestic Goddess" And proud of it!!!!
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Although I did not go to school for this job, I''m a quick learner.
My job is never dull or boring and changes daily.
I''m able to dress casual anytime I want.
I have very long hours.
The pay sucks, but the benefits are worth it.
Everyone around here calls me "mom" And on a good day I''ll answer to it.
I have three bosses and man do they keep me on my feet!

Sorry, I couldn''t help it.!
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Date: 6/19/2007 2:52:21 PM
Author: Gypsy
Date: 6/19/2007 1:57:00 PM

Author: TravelingGal

Folks, an English Major is the KEY to being successful in life!
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In an English major, there isn''t a 2+2=4. It''s SO subjective! To be successful as an English major, your objective is to go into class, size up the professor, figure out what he wants to hear and tell him just that. Doesn''t matter how good your essays are...if he doesn''t see it that way, you aren''t going to get a good grade. It''s essentially all bullsh*t. That''s why I call my major a BA in BS!


But then that''s what life is all about. Communication, people skills (and oh yeah, bullsh*t). You meet a person and figure out what makes them tick. Give ''em what they want to get what you want.


So looking at it that way, any wonder that this little English major is in sales and is really damn good it at?
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OMFG TG!!! That''s EXACTLY what I''ve always said about being an English major.


It''s a RARE (nearly extinct) Lit Teacher who actually CARES what you think. It''s mostly regurgitation and re-statement.


By my 3rd year I barely read my assignments anymore. Just took great notes, and studied for the exams (if it was open book-- forgetabout studying... just read and studied during the exam.)... got straight A''s. At a really good university too. Was even asked to publish a few times cause my work was ''brilliant''-- it''s amazing that you are called brilliant when all you are doing is restated what they said in the first place in a new and flashy way.
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I just wanted to say that I agree with everything being said here. I hated teachers that expected me to just say what they wanted. I had one teacher that would give me an A just because she knew my previous work was well written. Once, out of curiosity, I wrote an absolutely terrible paper. Honestly, if I had graded it I would have given it a low C. She gave me an A right off the bat and I''m fairly certain she didn''t read most of it. Just assumed it was good and wanted to use it in one of her course study books. English majors really do have a BA in BS.

You are also right about publishing if you get the chance. I am working on publishing some of my poetry and possibly short stories in the near future, thanks to the hounding of my profs. Maybe that will get me somewhere...

And just to respond to all you teachers out there... I wasn''t saying I didn''t want to be a teacher because of the money issues (which I think the post sort of implied once I re-read it). I just don''t want to teach. I''m fairly good at it, and tutored quite a few people in writing during college, and they all had a positive/ significant jump in their grade. The bottom line is I don''t think I have it in me to teach, even though DH is very adamant about his opposing view and actually wants me to become a teacher.

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I just have to reiterate this because I am SHOCKED to hear so many people who actually studied literature saying they have a "BA in BS"--I''m sorry that you had a negative experience, and I do think it is an epidemic that students (and it sounds like in this case, professors) are not taking post-secondary studies seriously. However, there are many reputable universities that offer rigorous literature studies. It''s a damn shame that many of you did not receive a quality education, and were able to "BS" your way through it. I would expose these universities if I were you, and I would demand a tuition refund. I do believe that you earn whatever you put in to your education, so maybe it''s just a matter of what individuals choose to do with their time in school. Your stories make me very sad, though. Very, very sad.

LoveInBloom--You''re too funny! ("To all of the lovely PSers who majored in English: I sincerely apologize for my battery of the english language here on PS! Hehe.")

LittleRock--You have the most important job in the world, AND you answer to multiple bosses!

Poptart--Please don''t become a teacher because someone else (FI) wants you to. Don''t even let him try to talk you into it. I went to law school because an ex convinced me to take the LSAT, and then when I scored really well, he convinced me to apply to school just to see what would happen, then I got a full-ride to a very good school and it was hard to turn down. I regret wasting my time pursuing a career I didn''t love. (At least I didn''t waste any money!) Stick to your guns, girl, you''ll figure it out!
 
Haven: I agree that it''s awful when there are some teachers that just require you to write what they want to hear. But, on the other hand, that''s kind of how life works in many ways, so it''s understandable to me. I don''t think my education was bad, though. In fact, I had quite a few teachers who were very hard on me (particularly literary theory), and were more than open to my ideas, and the way I viewed things. I took a postmodern fiction class that was amazing and the prof let us create our papers pretty much however we wanted, as long as we had citations and quotes to back up our thesis. As for the teachers that wanted to hear only certain things, I didn''t take their classes when I could get away with it. In fact, this last semester I refused to take one profs class because of this reason and instead did extra work in my postmodern class to make up for some of the work that would have been "missing" from that credit.

*M*
 
Ooooook, well, right now I''m interning (yeah, ok, I don''t actually have a job right now, I''m still in school) but I figure I''m just going to post what I''d *like* to do and hope that wishing and hard work makes it true!

Currently I''m interning in a major shipping company somewhere in Central America, coordinating container movements. Basically, if you live on the East Coast and buy anything that says "Made in China" I helped make sure it got to the store you bought it in on time.

I''m starting my last year of uni in August as a double major (English and Anthropology) and kind of minoring in Spanish (my school doesn''t offer minors, but I have 21 credits of Spanish and studied in Spain). The job hunt starts soon, and I''m hoping to begin interviewing in January in marketing, sales, advertising, or tourism/resort development, and preferably with a large, international company so I can keep moving around.

All this would (I hope) give me enough money to travel so that I can work at what I really want: becoming a travel writer. I always end up on "adventures" and am a very good storyteller, so I''d love to find a way to write and get published.
 
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