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Advice on Grey Diamond

IcePhoenix

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Hello sparkly buddies, hope your 2025 has started on a positive note.

I have bid on (and won) 2 grey diamonds on Catawiki from an Israeli seller and I'm wondering if the price is fair (they were no reserve auctions but the extimates seemed a bit too generous)

First diamond is as follow:
IGI certified 1.03 carats, oval cut, fancy grey, SI2 clarity, VG/G, no fluorescence

Price with shipping and fees around 1050€

Second diamond is as follows:
GIA certified 2.03 carats, radiant cut, Fancy Dark Greenish Grey, I2 clarity, G/G, no fluorescence

Price with shipping and fees around 800€

The valuations were around 6000 each. What is your opinion? Are the prices fair? Good deals? Overpriced? Any other sellers I can go to with a not huge budget?

Thanks for any advice/opinion
 

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I don’t like it when people come here asking for advice and PSers say “can’t tell without a video” and don’t say anything else, but really, with colored diamonds, it’s hard to say whether you got a good deal without a video. Photos are hard to judge (IMHO Leibish is the exception.). Also, in-person viewing will tell you what the diamond looks like in various lighting, which can add or subtract from whether you like it.

James Allen has a 1 carat fancy light grey oval for $1390. Pro - GIA cert. Con — lighter color, I1 clarity. I didn’t see anything similar on Leibish/Brilliance. Hard to say if your more saturated diamond is a deal without a video; IGI cert adds less value than GIA cert for color (nothing against IGI).

JA has a 2 carat dark greenish grey for $36,110. Pro — VVS clarity, chameleon, really pretty green in the video. Con — ? VVS clarity is less important than color, but you want to make sure your I2 is structurally sound. Chameleon is cool but some people don’t like hazel. The JA diamond clarity, chameleon, and color visible via video make the two diamonds different enough that it is hard to compare; if you are fine with I2 and don’t care about chameleon, then you may have done a good job for yourself, because even if not an objective bargain, you saved money by not spending it on things you don’t care about.

Re grey diamonds in general — some are lively and have pretty overtones, some are chameleon, some are translucent in a neat way, some have cool inclusions. Some greys have brown or yellow and that bugs people who are looking for a true grey or a blueish grey. Some greys are meh. General advice for anyone is get a video and check for a return policy for after you see the color in person.
 
I don’t like it when people come here asking for advice and PSers say “can’t tell without a video” and don’t say anything else, but really, with colored diamonds, it’s hard to say whether you got a good deal without a video. Photos are hard to judge (IMHO Leibish is the exception.). Also, in-person viewing will tell you what the diamond looks like in various lighting, which can add or subtract from whether you like it.

James Allen has a 1 carat fancy light grey oval for $1390. Pro - GIA cert. Con — lighter color, I1 clarity. I didn’t see anything similar on Leibish/Brilliance. Hard to say if your more saturated diamond is a deal without a video; IGI cert adds less value than GIA cert for color (nothing against IGI).

JA has a 2 carat dark greenish grey for $36,110. Pro — VVS clarity, chameleon, really pretty green in the video. Con — ? VVS clarity is less important than color, but you want to make sure your I2 is structurally sound. Chameleon is cool but some people don’t like hazel. The JA diamond clarity, chameleon, and color visible via video make the two diamonds different enough that it is hard to compare; if you are fine with I2 and don’t care about chameleon, then you may have done a good job for yourself, because even if not an objective bargain, you saved money by not spending it on things you don’t care about.

Re grey diamonds in general — some are lively and have pretty overtones, some are chameleon, some are translucent in a neat way, some have cool inclusions. Some greys have brown or yellow and that bugs people who are looking for a true grey or a blueish grey. Some greys are meh. General advice for anyone is get a video and check for a return policy for after you see the color in person.

Chameleon can add a lot to a stones price! So maybe not a comp stone Crutches?
 
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