Angelina Joli Pregnant!

[qtiekiki]

I feel bad for Jen because it''s kind of obvious that Brad cheated on her with Angelina. I feel bad for Angelina because she is looked at as the home wrecker when she thought that Brad and Jen were over before they started their relationship. I really don''t think Brad and Angelina will last too long even though she seems like she had mellow down a lot. But she definitely look a lot happier and that''s good for her.

I read in US weekly that Brad and Jen do talk on the phone and Angelina was the one who encouraged Brad to call Jen first, but now she is getting a little jealous of the phone calls and doesn''t want to say anything to show that she is jealous. I think Jen is kind of using that to her advantage to make Angelina jealous. When Jen called Brad on Christmas (I think), Angelina actually answered and the two talked for a few minutes. I think Jen is still hang up on Brad even though she is with Vince and thinking about marriage with him. Kind of sad for Vince.

 

[ello]

God - I would love to have Joli''s body pregnant or not!

 

[DonaBella]

Date: 1/12/2006 1:27:37 AM
Author: qtiekiki
I feel bad for Jen because it''s kind of obvious that Brad cheated on her with Angelina. I feel bad for Angelina because she is looked at as the home wrecker when she thought that Brad and Jen were over before they started their relationship. I really don''t think Brad and Angelina will last too long even though she seems like she had mellow down a lot. But she definitely look a lot happier and that''s good for her.

I read in US weekly that Brad and Jen do talk on the phone and Angelina was the one who encouraged Brad to call Jen first, but now she is getting a little jealous of the phone calls and doesn''t want to say anything to show that she is jealous. I think Jen is kind of using that to her advantage to make Angelina jealous. When Jen called Brad on Christmas (I think), Angelina actually answered and the two talked for a few minutes. I think Jen is still hang up on Brad even though she is with Vince and thinking about marriage with him. Kind of sad for Vince.

I wouldn''t be so quick to make the assumption---as alot of folks have---that there was infidelity with Brad being the guilty party. None of us know that for sure. In alot of Jen''s interviews, she has been pretty candid that there had been problems in the marriage. Alot has been perceived, but not out and out said that Brad was cheating. Angelina also stated in several statements that because infidelity led to her parents'' divorce, she would not be party to that.

Remember...the newspapers and other forms of printed media filter out alot, change and take things out of context to fit their audience. We, as the consumers, can only be sure of one true fact...Brad and Jen did not equally have what it took--not commitment, not desire and not the necessary love--to make things work. Period.

 

[lmurden]

Date: 1/12/2006 1:27:37 AM
Author: qtiekiki
I feel bad for Jen because it''s kind of obvious that Brad cheated on her with Angelina. I feel bad for Angelina because she is looked at as the home wrecker when she thought that Brad and Jen were over before they started their relationship. I really don''t think Brad and Angelina will last too long even though she seems like she had mellow down a lot. But she definitely look a lot happier and that''s good for her.

I read in US weekly that Brad and Jen do talk on the phone and Angelina was the one who encouraged Brad to call Jen first, but now she is getting a little jealous of the phone calls and doesn''t want to say anything to show that she is jealous. I think Jen is kind of using that to her advantage to make Angelina jealous. When Jen called Brad on Christmas (I think), Angelina actually answered and the two talked for a few minutes. I think Jen is still hang up on Brad even though she is with Vince and thinking about marriage with him. Kind of sad for Vince.

I don''t think that he cheated on Jen. I think the marriage was clearly over when “Friends” ended and he wanted to start a family and Jen wanted have a movie career. Remember that they went on a little get away to salvage their marriage and came away not wearing their wedding rings. Does anybody really think that Brad Pitt would stay single for long? Well I didn''t and I have to say that I could not blame any man for wanting Angelina Jolie! Her beauty and allure is undeniable and I think that she is working hard to grow as a person.

 

[Caribou]

Date: 1/12/2006 1:53:51 AM
Author: DeannaBana
Angelina also stated in several statements that because infidelity led to her parents'' divorce, she would not be party to that.

Angelina and Billy Bob Thorton got together before him and Darryl Hannah were over, she (DH) has said that she was on location doing a movie, thinking they (her and BBT) were still together only to come back and find that he and Angelina were together. So there blows that whole thing.

 

[fire&ice]

Perhaps they were miserable in their marriage. It wasn''t the partnership that someone coming from a happy home was to expect. Perhaps emotionally the marriage was dead already. The only thing that seems perfectly clear is that Pitt wants children. This should come as no surprise.

It would be purely speculative to say that he had an affair prior to the separation. I would give the benefit of doubt. It would seem obvious that Jolie & Pitt connected in some way prior to the separation. But, maybe a line was drawn. Who knows? Who cares?

I simply don''t understand the negativity. Would you be this critical if it was a neighbor of yours? But, I will never understand the fascination this culture has with celebs. I''ve got enough drama in my own life w/o intermingling the drama of someone I don''t know.

Like anyone who seems in love, I wish them the best. We ALL need it.

 

[fire&ice]

Date: 1/12/2006 9:43:39 AM
Author: Caribou

Date: 1/12/2006 1:53:51 AM
Author: DeannaBana
Angelina also stated in several statements that because infidelity led to her parents'' divorce, she would not be party to that.

Angelina and Billy Bob Thorton got together before him and Darryl Hannah were over, she (DH) has said that she was on location doing a movie, thinking they (her and BBT) were still together only to come back and find that he and Angelina were together. So there blows that whole thing.

They were married?

 

[Caribou]

Date: 1/12/2006 10:05:04 AM
Author: fire&ice

Date: 1/12/2006 9:43:39 AM
Author: Caribou

Date: 1/12/2006 1:53:51 AM
Author: DeannaBana
Angelina also stated in several statements that because infidelity led to her parents'' divorce, she would not be party to that.

Angelina and Billy Bob Thorton got together before him and Darryl Hannah were over, she (DH) has said that she was on location doing a movie, thinking they (her and BBT) were still together only to come back and find that he and Angelina were together. So there blows that whole thing.

They were married?

No they weren''t married, but does that make it okay than? Billy Bob Thorton still cheated and Angelina was still a willing partcipant....which kind of goes against her saying that she would never partake in cheating.

I, personally, would be more disgusted by my neighbor if they did the same thing.

 

[fire&ice]

Date: 1/12/2006 10:20:18 AM
Author: Caribou

Date: 1/12/2006 10:05:04 AM
Author: fire&ice

Date: 1/12/2006 9:43:39 AM
Author: Caribou

Date: 1/12/2006 1:53:51 AM
Author: DeannaBana
Angelina also stated in several statements that because infidelity led to her parents'' divorce, she would not be party to that.

Angelina and Billy Bob Thorton got together before him and Darryl Hannah were over, she (DH) has said that she was on location doing a movie, thinking they (her and BBT) were still together only to come back and find that he and Angelina were together. So there blows that whole thing.

They were married?

No they weren''t married, but does that make it okay than? Billy Bob Thorton still cheated and Angelina was still a willing partcipant....which kind of goes against her saying that she would never partake in cheating.

I, personally, would be more disgusted by my neighbor if they did the same thing.

Not apples to apples. I''ve cheated on boyfriends - certainly didn''t mean I was going to cheat on my spouse. The ramifications of such is completely different in marriage. No one knows the level of committment BBT & DH had. I had one casual boyfriend that just assumed I wasn''t seeing anyone else. I guess I was left out of that conversation.

 

[Caribou]

Date: 1/12/2006 10:24:37 AM
Author: fire&ice
Not apples to apples. I''ve cheated on boyfriends - certainly didn''t mean I was going to cheat on my spouse. The ramifications of such is completely different in marriage. No one knows the level of committment BBT & DH had. I had one casual boyfriend that just assumed I wasn''t seeing anyone else. I guess I was left out of that conversation.

I agree that marriage is more sacried than a boyfriend/girlfriend relationship. But I completely disgree about cheating. My dad is a serial cheater, he''s cheated on my mom, my 1st stepmom and am pretty sure that he will cheat (if he hasn''t already) on my current step mom. I''ve been cheated on. Cheating is cheating. It''s still cheating regardless of the state of the relationship. I firmly believe in ''once a cheater always a cheater'' regardless of who you cheated on.

My thing is Angelina Joilie makes a statement about cheating and how she would never do that because her dad did...yet she started a relationship with Billy Bob Thorton while he was still in a relationship with Darryl Hannah. Granted, that''s all on Billy Bob Thorton not Angelina, their relationship is not her responsibliity, but she''s being hyprocritical making that statement.

 

[fire&ice]

Date: 1/12/2006 10:46:02 AM
Author: Caribou

Date: 1/12/2006 10:24:37 AM
Author: fire&ice
Not apples to apples. I''ve cheated on boyfriends - certainly didn''t mean I was going to cheat on my spouse. The ramifications of such is completely different in marriage. No one knows the level of committment BBT & DH had. I had one casual boyfriend that just assumed I wasn''t seeing anyone else. I guess I was left out of that conversation.

I agree that marriage is more sacried than a boyfriend/girlfriend relationship. But I completely disgree about cheating. My dad is a serial cheater, he''s cheated on my mom, my 1st stepmom and am pretty sure that he will cheat (if he hasn''t already) on my current step mom. I''ve been cheated on. Cheating is cheating. It''s still cheating regardless of the state of the relationship. I firmly believe in ''once a cheater always a cheater'' regardless of who you cheated on.

My thing is Angelina Joilie makes a statement about cheating and how she would never do that because her dad did...yet she started a relationship with Billy Bob Thorton while he was still in a relationship with Darryl Hannah. Granted, that''s all on Billy Bob Thorton not Angelina, their relationship is not her responsibliity, but she''s being hyprocritical making that statement.

We disagree.

 

[devientdrow]

I agree with you Fire & Ice...I cheated on boyfriend before. I''ll flat out even say it wasn''t a matter of miscommunication it was a matter of meeting someone else and being interested while at the same time knowing my current relationship just wasn''t '' the one''. I''d never cheat on my husband though. Never. The day I said those vows to him I promised him, our family and friends and even God that I would be faithful and so I will be.

As far as Jolie and Pitt, I am a HUGE fan of angelina jolie.....should I be gay......i''d be gay for her. hahaha. I think she''s gorgeous and charismatic. True she''s terribly flawed, eccentric and odd but i''ve noticed a lot of those celebs that come from hollywood families tend to be that way. It seems to me like there was a DEFINATE attraction between those two on and off the set of Mr and Mrs Smith. They were so discreet that I really wouldn''t be surprised if they weren''t sleeping together until Brad seperated from Aniston. They seem like a good match up to me. In pics of thier early relationship it looks like Brad and Jen were in love but sometimes it just appeared to me as if they were together because it seemed like a good idea, not because they were madly in love. I think everyone looks at Jen as if she was this perfect girl next door lovely wife and they are confusing the characters she played with who she is. For instance, Brad really really wanted a family.....isn''t it part of any couples relationship to respect whats really important to them and compromise? It seems to me that she just kept putting what he wanted off to the side. Thats not good......this was from hollywood.com on Aniston regarding her negativity:

Aniston''s parents had a stormy marriage relationship that ended in divorce. Aniston was quoted as saying that she during her marriage she often felt "fear, mistrust, doubt and insecurities" and that "When your parents split up, it''s impossible to delude yourself about fairytale romance and happy endings

Whereas Brad seems quite the opposite. He is very close to his family and seems qute trusting and secure.

Also the couple together never had delusions of forever, I rememered this from a while ago...the things they were quoted on saying:

Pitt told Vanity Fair, "There is so much pressure from day one to be with someone forever, and I''m not sure if it really is in our nature to be with someone for the rest of our lives."

"Jen and myself don''t cage each other with this pressure of happily ever after. We work it out as we go along. We made a pact that we will see where this thing is going," he said.

And Jennifer famously told W magazine last year, "Is he the love of my life? I think you''re always sort of wondering...."

I mean I don''t know about you guys but to me that doesn''t seem like a couple who is crazy in love! I think Jen and Brad probably gave it a really good try but just couldn''t make it work. They seem too different and probably haven''t been truly happy for a while. Brad likes to go out and learn new hobbies and be involved in activist effors like Angelina does. Jen had been reported as being more of a home body. Brad''s number one priority is family. His own and the one he wants to build. He wants to be a dad and have lots of kids, something else Angelina wants. She had said over and over agan how important children are to her. Jen Aniston wants to work on her career and wait. I just think no one likes '' the other woman'' and it puts Angelina up for a lot of critisim. I think it was just circumstance. Brad and Jen had been having problems for sometime and he found himself attracted to Angelina and she had the same feelings. I think all three handled it with a lot of tact and respect.

 

[bstraszheim]

I don''t tend to keep up with celebrity gossip, I say this so that if my facts are off, then please excuse me. I don''t care a great deal for any of the players in this game and if Jennifer did not want children and Brad did, then their divorce seems justified. That is a really big life decision. I also feel really, really glad for the children that were never born to them, because if someone doesn''t want kids and has them, then I don''t think that is in the child''s best interest. If he wanted kids and she didn''t, they had them and then divorced, it is most likely that they would have stayed with Jennifer, and she didn''t want them. On the other hand, Angelina loves children, with or without spouse and if she and Brad don''t make it, the children will still be loved and cherished. It seems that everyone got what they wanted. : )

Oh, and I''m not touching the cheating topic with a 10 foot pole! : )

I wish you well,

Bridget

 

[angel_nieves]

Devientdrow you said it best!!!

 

[devientdrow]

Thanks Angel....it''s kinda sad that I know all this pop culture news hahaha though I suppose it''s everywhere now. I forget what story it was, I think it may have been Brad and Angelina but it was actually on like the 10 o clock news hahahaha

 

[Morticia]

It wasn''t Darrayl Hannah that was with Bill Bob Thornton, when he started up with Angelina, it was Laura Dern. Just an fyi....

 

[angel_nieves]

I have got where I do actually feel sorry for some of the celebrities in Hollywood, except those who act like a$$es.

 

[lmurden]

Billy Bob was with Laura Dern and according to Laura Darn Billy Bob never told her that their engagement was off! Who knows what he told Angelina. Some men tend to lie when it comes to getting with a new woman.

 

[Caribou]

Thanks Morticia, I was starting to think it wasn''t Darrayl Hannah but I did know that it was some tall blonde actress.

I disagree with the whole cheating thing. I think cheating is wrong regardless of whether you are married or not. I also get defensive when people try to justify their cheating because they weren''t married. Regardless of being married or not, a commitment is a commitment and to some people they consider that sacrid (sp) regardless of a piece of paper and a ring. To me, it''s kind of like some of you are saying that unless you are married relationships mean nothing and you are free to do what ever it is you want to do, regardless of who you hurt in the process...that to me is BS.

 

[DonaBella]

Date: 1/12/2006 11:41:58 AM
Author: devientdrow
Thanks Angel....it''s kinda sad that I know all this pop culture news hahaha though I suppose it''s everywhere now. I forget what story it was, I think it may have been Brad and Angelina but it was actually on like the 10 o clock news hahahaha

I agree with both you,devientdrow, and fire&ice...and for you, caribou, I am so sorry you have experienced cheating on such a personal level...that explains alot of why you perceive things as you do...

 

[DonaBella]

Date: 1/12/2006 11:46:41 AM
Author: Morticia
It wasn''t Darrayl Hannah that was with Bill Bob Thornton, when he started up with Angelina, it was Laura Dern. Just an fyi....

That''s right...I remember the pics of Laura Dern and BBT in mag rags that were by the checkout at the grocery store...I knew it was a blonde but not Daryl Hannah...

 

[DonaBella]

Date: 1/12/2006 11:51:45 AM
Author: lmurden
Billy Bob was with Laura Dern and according to Laura Darn Billy Bob never told her that their engagement was off! Who knows what he told Angelina. Some men tend to lie when it comes to getting with a new woman.

That is SO true! That is when I first saw them photographed as a couple, during the whole "he didn''t tell me it was over!" bit...He was at that time such a jerk...ugh...

 

[DonaBella]

Date: 1/12/2006 11:01:58 AM
Author: devientdrow

I agree with you Fire & Ice...I cheated on boyfriend before. I''ll flat out even say it wasn''t a matter of miscommunication it was a matter of meeting someone else and being interested while at the same time knowing my current relationship just wasn''t '' the one''. I''d never cheat on my husband though. Never. The day I said those vows to him I promised him, our family and friends and even God that I would be faithful and so I will be.

As far as Jolie and Pitt, I am a HUGE fan of angelina jolie.....should I be gay......i''d be gay for her. hahaha. I think she''s gorgeous and charismatic. True she''s terribly flawed, eccentric and odd but i''ve noticed a lot of those celebs that come from hollywood families tend to be that way. It seems to me like there was a DEFINATE attraction between those two on and off the set of Mr and Mrs Smith. They were so discreet that I really wouldn''t be surprised if they weren''t sleeping together until Brad seperated from Aniston. They seem like a good match up to me. In pics of thier early relationship it looks like Brad and Jen were in love but sometimes it just appeared to me as if they were together because it seemed like a good idea, not because they were madly in love. I think everyone looks at Jen as if she was this perfect girl next door lovely wife and they are confusing the characters she played with who she is. For instance, Brad really really wanted a family.....isn''t it part of any couples relationship to respect whats really important to them and compromise? It seems to me that she just kept putting what he wanted off to the side. Thats not good......this was from hollywood.com on Aniston regarding her negativity:

Aniston''s parents had a stormy marriage relationship that ended in divorce. Aniston was quoted as saying that she during her marriage she often felt ''fear, mistrust, doubt and insecurities'' and that ''When your parents split up, it''s impossible to delude yourself about fairytale romance and happy endings

Whereas Brad seems quite the opposite. He is very close to his family and seems qute trusting and secure.

Also the couple together never had delusions of forever, I rememered this from a while ago...the things they were quoted on saying:

Pitt told Vanity Fair, ''There is so much pressure from day one to be with someone forever, and I''m not sure if it really is in our nature to be with someone for the rest of our lives.''

''Jen and myself don''t cage each other with this pressure of happily ever after. We work it out as we go along. We made a pact that we will see where this thing is going,'' he said.

And Jennifer famously told W magazine last year, ''Is he the love of my life? I think you''re always sort of wondering....''

I mean I don''t know about you guys but to me that doesn''t seem like a couple who is crazy in love! I think Jen and Brad probably gave it a really good try but just couldn''t make it work. They seem too different and probably haven''t been truly happy for a while. Brad likes to go out and learn new hobbies and be involved in activist effors like Angelina does. Jen had been reported as being more of a home body. Brad''s number one priority is family. His own and the one he wants to build. He wants to be a dad and have lots of kids, something else Angelina wants. She had said over and over agan how important children are to her. Jen Aniston wants to work on her career and wait. I just think no one likes '' the other woman'' and it puts Angelina up for a lot of critisim. I think it was just circumstance. Brad and Jen had been having problems for sometime and he found himself attracted to Angelina and she had the same feelings. I think all three handled it with a lot of tact and respect.

Brad Pitt ALWAYS has been straight up about his desire for a family...and I feel bad that he hooked with someone, whether it was Jen or someone else, who had unresolved issues about family, stability, divorce, etc...

Jen''s comments in W mag were some of many she has made before about whether or not Brad was/is the love of her life...poor thing, she truly has alot to work through...

 

[DonaBella]

Date: 1/12/2006 11:54:30 AM
Author: Caribou
Thanks Morticia, I was starting to think it wasn''t Darrayl Hannah but I did know that it was some tall blonde actress.

I disagree with the whole cheating thing. I think cheating is wrong regardless of whether you are married or not. I also get defensive when people try to justify their cheating because they weren''t married. Regardless of being married or not, a commitment is a commitment and to some people they consider that sacrid (sp) regardless of a piece of paper and a ring. To me, it''s kind of like some of you are saying that unless you are married relationships mean nothing and you are free to do what ever it is you want to do, regardless of who you hurt in the process...that to me is BS.

Cheating is never right...but it happens. I, personally, am not saying its ok. I am saying that none of us and I do mean NONE of US--the regular folk, those who are not intimately close like a best friend to Brad Pitt or Jennifer Aniston--DON"T KNOW the actual truth...they do and that is where is begins and ends.

No one wants or likes to be cheated on, whether married or dating in a commited relationship, but commitment is defined differently from person to person. It''s horrible and sad whenever it happens...but it does happen. People make mistakes. They should not be blackballed for all of their days because they errored. Forgiveness takes time...sometimes, a long, long time.

Myself, for instance, can forgive, but I have a hard time forgetting. In fact, I believe its healthy in some instances to NOT forget and to learn so that the next time, I can maybe avoid it or deal with better. But I also just have a hard time forgiving. Its something I work on daily...hourly even.

I feel so bad that you are not really understanding what myself or others are attempting to say...If I can help in any way, I totally will...

 

[Caribou]

Date: 1/12/2006 12:02:23 PM
Author: DeannaBana
I agree with both you,devientdrow, and fire&ice...and for you, caribou, I am so sorry you have experienced cheating on such a personal level...that explains alot of why you perceive things as you do...

I don't necessarily think my personal experiences make me preceive things this way. I think any cheating is wrong, regardless of whether two people are dating or they are married. Bottom line, when you cheat you are hurting someone.....THAT IS WRONG! I understand that sometimes, you hurt someone without meaning too, I'm not saying that I've never done that, however, I've never cheated never will.

What also irks me is the way people view a married person to a single person. If you are married and asked to a party and decline because you need to get home, no one questions you. When you are single and asked to a party and decline because you need to get home, some people say 'why? You don't have a family or you don't have anyone to get home to'....apparently it's the same as cheating. I'm not trying to start anything but I really do believe that regardless of my experiences, I would still find cheating wrong whether someone was married or not. Like you aren't important or 'whole' until you are married.

 

[Caribou]

Date: 1/12/2006 12:15:53 PM
Author: DeannaBana


I feel so bad that you are not really understanding what myself or others are attempting to say...If I can help in any way, I totally will...

I''m sorry DeannaBana and everyone else that I may be offending. I do understand your points, I just disagree with them. Which is okay...it''s okay to disagree.

 

[DonaBella]

As outsiders looking in, all of us have a picture painted before us...Some of our own conclusions are drawn from this view we have. I always feel a bit sad when any marriage is over, whether it be a celebrity''s marriage, a friend''s marriage or someone in my community, but I remain an outsider...one who doesn''t have any of the main details of what happened...and I shouldn''t. By golly, people, its personal!

If I share something on this forum, its because I want other people''s insight to help ME out with the details I know...

Alot of marriages have been reported as over in the Hollywood world and more will be casualities...such is life, and such a sad fact. All any of us can do is wish the parties involved well and that their next relationships will be better and happier. That''s it.

I think some of this stirs issues within ourselves and that is from where some of us here are speaking...our own point of reference...

Just my 0.2 cents...

 

[DonaBella]

Date: 1/12/2006 12:21:10 PM
Author: Caribou

Date: 1/12/2006 12:15:53 PM
Author: DeannaBana


I feel so bad that you are not really understanding what myself or others are attempting to say...If I can help in any way, I totally will...

I''m sorry DeannaBana and everyone else that I may be offending. I do understand your points, I just disagree with them. Which is okay...it''s okay to disagree.

Of course it is ok to disagree...I totally believe and practice that...its healthy in fact!

 

[Caribou]

Date: 1/12/2006 12:21:43 PM
Author: DeannaBana
As outsiders looking in, all of us have a picture painted before us...Some of our own conclusions are drawn from this view we have. I always feel a bit sad when any marriage is over, whether it be a celebrity''s marriage, a friend''s marriage or someone in my community, but I remain an outsider...one who doesn''t have any of the main details of what happened...and I shouldn''t. By golly, people, its personal!

If I share something on this forum, its because I want other people''s insight to help ME out with the details I know...

Alot of marriages have been reported as over in the Hollywood world and more will be casualities...such is life, and such a sad fact. All any of us can do is wish the parties involved well and that their next relationships will be better and happier. That''s it.

I think some of this stirs issues within ourselves and that is from where some of us here are speaking...our own point of reference...

Just my 0.2 cents...

This was very well said. Thanks DeannaBana.

I will also add, that it''s fun debating people views of things. Although I may not agree, I do find it interesting the different thoughts and experinces people add to subjects.

 

[Kaleigh]

So who is Billy Bob with now??