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Caribou - I don''t recall me ever saying I thought my cheating was justified. I know it''s wrong and I have never in my life said otherwise. I was simply backing up fire & ice''s statement of just because I HAVE cheated in the past doesn''t mean I WILL in the future. I totally agree with you on how people react to single vs married people. There are deeply commited people out there who aren''t married for whatever reason but they act as if you don''t have the same commitment. I find a lot of guys ask me "Are you married?" and now that I say ''Yes'' they back off. BUT even when I was engaged they would still come onto me and i''d remind them....i''m engaged and they would actually say "Well your not married yet." ! Shouldn''t the question be "Are you in a relationship?" and respected.


Deanna - I hear you on the forgiving but not forgetting. My memory seems to be great at retaining stuff I wish I forgot!!! I think any ending marriage is very sad...


OH I REMEMBER!!!! It was Jessica Simpson and Nick Lachey''s news of divorce that was on the 10 o clock news.

 
Date: 1/12/2006 12:34:12 PM
Author: devientdrow


Caribou - I don't recall me ever saying I thought my cheating was justified. I know it's wrong and I have never in my life said otherwise. I was simply backing up fire & ice's statement of just because I HAVE cheated in the past doesn't mean I WILL in the future. I totally agree with you on how people react to single vs married people. There are deeply commited people out there who aren't married for whatever reason but they act as if you don't have the same commitment. I find a lot of guys ask me 'Are you married?' and now that I say 'Yes' they back off. BUT even when I was engaged they would still come onto me and i'd remind them....i'm engaged and they would actually say 'Well your not married yet.' ! Shouldn't the question be 'Are you in a relationship?' and respected.




Deanna - I hear you on the forgiving but not forgetting. My memory seems to be great at retaining stuff I wish I forgot!!! I think any ending marriage is very sad...




OH I REMEMBER!!!! It was Jessica Simpson and Nick Lachey's news of divorce that was on the 10 o clock news.

Sorry, again, I don't mean to upset anyone..... it just seemed like when some say that they cheated in relationships outside of marriage but not in marriage, seems like it's kind of saying it's okay. But I understand what you are saying.

The next relationship we will be debating (NOT) is..........Britney Spears & K-Fed.....God willing.
 
Date: 1/12/2006 12:30:12 PM
Author: kaleigh
So who is Billy Bob with now??
Connie Angland, they have a child together...he has 5 kids now.

www.imdb.com has information on all actors/actresses...it''s pretty cool.
 
Date: 1/12/2006 12:34:12 PM
Author: devientdrow

Caribou - I don''t recall me ever saying I thought my cheating was justified. I know it''s wrong and I have never in my life said otherwise. I was simply backing up fire & ice''s statement of just because I HAVE cheated in the past doesn''t mean I WILL in the future. I totally agree with you on how people react to single vs married people. There are deeply commited people out there who aren''t married for whatever reason but they act as if you don''t have the same commitment. I find a lot of guys ask me ''Are you married?'' and now that I say ''Yes'' they back off. BUT even when I was engaged they would still come onto me and i''d remind them....i''m engaged and they would actually say ''Well your not married yet.'' ! Shouldn''t the question be ''Are you in a relationship?'' and respected.



Deanna - I hear you on the forgiving but not forgetting. My memory seems to be great at retaining stuff I wish I forgot!!! I think any ending marriage is very sad...



OH I REMEMBER!!!! It was Jessica Simpson and Nick Lachey''s news of divorce that was on the 10 o clock news.

I am REALLY trying to improve on me this year...on my areas of weakness like forgetting and letting it just die...but it is going to take time. I have my own family issues that are not going away as quick as I''d like and my memory keeps bringing up why I shouldn''t forget what so and so did to me...
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...I am not just doing the resolution of being more fit and healthy, but also to be the best "me" I can be by taking things one day,, one issue at a time...Thank goodness for prayer or I''d be sunk!!!
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Caribou,
I wan''t ever upset by what you were saying! I hope it didn''t come across as such! I just wanted to clarify. When I think that now there is a child involved in the whole brit and kfed thing....now that makes me sad :)
 
Wow I had no clue Billy Bob has 5 kids now.
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Date: 1/12/2006 12:34:12 PM
Author: devientdrow

BUT even when I was engaged they would still come onto me and i''d remind them....i''m engaged and they would actually say ''Well your not married yet.'' ! Shouldn''t the question be ''Are you in a relationship?'' and respected.

Yah, what''s up with that?? I thought that guys would never hit on me once the e-ring was on the finger, but it''s not the case. Guys have actually said, "Well are you sure," "Oh come on," "Let me take you out and spoil you," and "He doesn''t deserve you, I could take care of you." What the hell!!!
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I don''t know you, and you are being totally disrespectful!
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I''m no slouch, but I''m definitely NOT a super model, so I wonder what the hell these guys are thinking? Maybe it''s the thrill of the chase thing. Anyway, it''s gross!!!
 
I know I have said this before on here but I think Angelina has really come a long way from when she was younger and stupid, she seems to absolutely ADORE her kids and put them first and I hope that she and Brad can make it work (but I am not really holding my breath with all the splits in the last few years, seems like no one in Hollywood is safe!), and yes it''s so sad when kids are involved. As for the breakup, personally I believe that everyone can be somewhat at fault in some manner, but I don''t think that Angelina home-wrecked or Jenn was innocent or Brad was a callous pig .... nothing quite so black and white as any of that.

I read in a gossip mag on this and it said that Angelina felt more insecure the more committed she and Brad got which I thought was kind of sad. I do think she puts on great airs of being really mature and untouched by gossip and what people think but I think that she is probably more vulnerable than people tend to think.

But anyway only time will tell!! Good luck to them!
 
You can''t believe everything you hear.

NEW YORK (AP) -- Brad Pitt did not call Jennifer Aniston to tell her about girlfriend Angelina Jolie''s pregnancy announcement, entertainment TV show "Extra" reported Thursday.

Aniston''s publicist, Stephen Huvane, cleared up reports that Pitt and former wife Aniston spoke before the announcement on Wednesday.


"All the reports about phone calls between Jennifer Aniston and Brad Pitt and Jennifer Aniston and Angelina Jolie are all made-up lies," Huvane told "Extra."


Pitt''s publicist, Cindy Guagenti, confirmed on Wednesday that Jolie, 30, is expecting a baby this summer with Pitt. Jolie, a goodwill ambassador for the U.N., leaked the news to a charity aid worker while filming "The Good Shepherd" in the Dominican Republic. (Watch the video of a visibly pregnant Jolie -- 2:15)


Pitt, 42, has also filed to be the adoptive father to Jolie''s children, Maddox and Zahara.


Pitt and Aniston, 36, divorced last October after 4 1/2 years of marriage, citing irreconcilable differences. Pitt has denied Jolie was behind the split.
 
Not much different to say but just wanted to add that I am also in the camp that thinks Brad did not cheat. I am sure there was mutual attraction and hanging out more than platonic friends might but I don''t think he physically cheated. Even Jenn, who was devastated, of course, remarked that she believed him. I feel bad for Jennifer but can understand why Brad was attracted to Angelina - the kids probably helped, of course, and she is very passionate and driven in her life, especially towards humanitarian causes, many of which he joined her on and saw her interest in firsthand. I have heard that Angelina is also very down-to-earth, with those from all walks of life - those she aids abroad, and the crew/secondary people on set whereas Jenn was more prissy and snobish to those not her friends or "equals". (This is all gossip, mind you, but I can certainly believe the speculation about Jolie based on how she conveys herself). She seems very unconcerned about hollywood and the farce of fame; Aniston is really taking off and trying to ground herself as a serious actress so she has to be a part of that scene to some extent. Vince seems like a nice guy and I hope he''s not just a rebound - though I''m sure he''s well aware that Jenn and Brad are talking again if in fact they are.
 
I know this topic has been worked over as much as it can be but I had another question about Brangelina hahaha and I thought i''d just shove it under this topic.

Anyone know what Angies ering looks like??? I thought I read somewhere that they were looking at antique style rings from Cartier? Wouldn''t surprise me since he and Jen did like the super modern looking thing....if I were getting remarried i''d probably wan''t something different.
 
I read that Brad and Angelina have both been ring-shopping, but they''ve not yet purchased engagement or wedding ring(s) ...

I also read (in the same article?) that Angelina and Brad previously exchanged ''commitment'' rings - and I believe they''re both sterling silver ...

I suspect Angelina may forego the ''bling'' of an engagement ring in favor of a simple but elegant vintage eternity band ... She doesn''t seem to wear much jewelry in the ''everyday'' photos that I''ve seen in People magazine and the like.

I also read that she wants to keep the wedding simple - - true to her belief that there are much more important things to commit time and $$ to (i.e., her humanitarian causes).

For what it''s worth, I think Brad and Angelina make a great couple - - they seem to have a lot in common and Brad seems to be as genuine, down-to-earth and family-oriented as I''ve read Angelina to be ...

From all accounts, Jennifer Aniston was always putting her career first, and she just seems so frivolous compared to Brad Pitt ...

I also think Jennifer Aniston is better paired with Vince Vaughn, although I hope she doesn''t break his heart in the end. It seems to me that the whole relationship-thing with Vince Vaughn - as well as all the quotes and photos from un-named sources on Jennifer Aniston''s behalf - are designed to ''get at'' Brad Pitt (i.e., the photos of Jen making-out on the balcony with Vince Vaughn, the topless photo debacle, the magazine covers where she promises to be stronger, sexier, smarter, more humanitarian, all of the recent quotes about Jen planning to become pregnant this year, etc., etc. )

Then again, what do I really know about any of this???
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I think your guess of what Angelina would get could be dead on. Even if she chooses an engagement ring and wedding band I see her in something understated and tasteful. Whenever you see photos of her out an about she is always just wearing a watch and possibly a simple ring. The only thing of substance I ever see are diamond studs she wears....that are B I G :) These are two things that I found:

"Not long ago according to a US magazine, Brad Pitt was seen checking out engagement rings at Cartier, while Angelina Jolie was spotted trying on some Neil Lane and antique diamond rings."

and a ton of sources say he purchased vintage cartier wedding bands:

"After Brad Pitt filed an official application to adopt Angelina Jolie''s children, the rumormills figured that a wedding would not be far behind. Now UK publications are reporting unsubstantiated rumors that Brad Pitt has bought vintage Cartier wedding rings on Rodeo drive, and that the pair plan to have an unconventional winter wedding. Supposedly Angelina and Brad will wed at the couple''s home in a non-legally binding ceremony with an exchange of rings. Meanwhile, a Toronto publication''s readers have overwhelmingly chosen Angelina and Brad''s wedding as the party they''d most like to attend! Good luck getting an invitation."

I read in a few places that they were thinking of doing a buddist (i''m spelling that wrong I think) ceremony. This somewhat doesn''t make much sense to me because other sources are repoting that they are making a pre nup. If your ceremony is not legally binding I don''t know why you''d need a pre nup!
 
Also I think Aniston is competing with Brad and Angie. I can only imagine how much she''s hurting and I don''t think her competing is anything devious, it''s probably just a defense mechanism to make her feel better about whats going on. I don''t know about Vince Vaughn. Have you ever read interviews with him?? He always sounds like such a jerk and apparently he was this big party boy bachelor for life before Jen and now he''s working out and dieting and trying to be into health like Jen is. But something is shady about him. He was Pitt''s co star in Mr and Mrs Smith and I read that he noticed and Brad had talked to him about his attraction to Jolie and said baisically eithier you tell Jen or I will. Then he starts dating her?!? It just makes me wonder if he was after Jen the whole time?
 
It''s interesting the different opinions people have on these couples.

I''ve never been a huge fan of either Jolie or Pitt. I think he is a medicore actor who is in medicore films and he''s a pretty boy. I think she is a good actress, she''s been in good films. She''s beautiful but not in the typical Hollywood way. I think there are many other actresses who are better looking than her. (Kate Beckinsale, Halle Berry, just to name a couple) I truly believe that these too got together before Pitt and Aniston were even separated.

Aniston, I think she''s a good actress who has great potential but she has been in mostly mediocore films. But I do think she''ll one day make a great film and win an Oscar. I think she''s beautiful in a more typical Hollywood way. I love Vince Vaughn, and although his movies are not the greatest he has always entertained me, I like his dry sense of humor/saracasm.

I don''t really see these two lasting just like I don''t see Brangelina lasting.

Really, I don''t know whether Brangelina got together before or after Pitt/Aniston broke up. No one does. I just truly believe that they did. I don''t think it was the full reason why they broke up and I don''t think Aniston was not at fault for their demise; of course she had some fault in it. I just find it interesting the different opinoins on the whole gossipy story.
 
Date: 1/17/2006 11:18:44 AM
Author: devientdrow
Also I think Aniston is competing with Brad and Angie. I can only imagine how much she''s hurting and I don''t think her competing is anything devious, it''s probably just a defense mechanism to make her feel better about whats going on. I don''t know about Vince Vaughn. Have you ever read interviews with him?? He always sounds like such a jerk and apparently he was this big party boy bachelor for life before Jen and now he''s working out and dieting and trying to be into health like Jen is. But something is shady about him. He was Pitt''s co star in Mr and Mrs Smith and I read that he noticed and Brad had talked to him about his attraction to Jolie and said baisically eithier you tell Jen or I will. Then he starts dating her?!? It just makes me wonder if he was after Jen the whole time?
OMG! I was thinking the same thing that Vince Vaughn knew that Brad and Jen''s marriage was on the rocks leaked true or false info to the press and waited for the right moment to move in on Jen. How much of a coincident can it be that Vaughn is now dating Jen. Hmmmmmmmm.
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Date: 1/17/2006 11:46:16 AM
Author: Caribou
It''s interesting the different opinions people have on these couples.

I''ve never been a huge fan of either Jolie or Pitt. I think he is a medicore actor who is in medicore films and he''s a pretty boy. I think she is a good actress, she''s been in good films. She''s beautiful but not in the typical Hollywood way. I think there are many other actresses who are better looking than her. (Kate Beckinsale, Halle Berry, just to name a couple) I truly believe that these too got together before Pitt and Aniston were even separated.

Aniston, I think she''s a good actress who has great potential but she has been in mostly mediocore films. But I do think she''ll one day make a great film and win an Oscar. I think she''s beautiful in a more typical Hollywood way. I love Vince Vaughn, and although his movies are not the greatest he has always entertained me, I like his dry sense of humor/saracasm.

I don''t really see these two lasting just like I don''t see Brangelina lasting.

Really, I don''t know whether Brangelina got together before or after Pitt/Aniston broke up. No one does. I just truly believe that they did. I don''t think it was the full reason why they broke up and I don''t think Aniston was not at fault for their demise; of course she had some fault in it. I just find it interesting the different opinoins on the whole gossipy story.
Wow, you think Aniston is beautiful in a more typical Hollywood way??? I think she is kind of cute, but she certainly doesn''t have a button noise and her chin is way too large and square. I think she makes up for her ok looks by having a great body! She is very toned and works what she has very nicely and has a great since of style. To be honest, I didn’t take notice of her until she started dating Pitt. As for Jolie, I think her presence is undeniable. I think she is just drop dead gorgeous hands down. Her looks are very alluring and sophisticated. Thats just my non-humble opinion.
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It''s amazing how Pitt has because so involved in international charities since he met Jolie. It seems like they are bringing out the best in each other.

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Date: 1/17/2006 11:57:33 AM
Author: lmurden
Wow, you think Aniston is beautiful in a more typical Hollywood way???
I think Jolie is not a typical looking Holywood type. She's not all that attractive, IMO, especially when she has no makeup on. And when she is all made up, she's beautiful (of course) however, her lips always look chapped and gross to me. My best friend and I have this debate all the time.. he thinks Jolie is grogeious...I disagree.

ETA: In movies Jolie always looks beatiful...however, when I've seen her at award shows or in your picture...her head looks too big for her way thin frame.
 
Date: 1/17/2006 12:28:36 PM
Author: Caribou

Date: 1/17/2006 11:57:33 AM
Author: lmurden
Wow, you think Aniston is beautiful in a more typical Hollywood way???
I think Jolie is not a typical looking Holywood type. She''s not all that attractive, IMO, especially when she has no makeup on. And when she is all made up, she''s beautiful (of course) however, her lips always look chapped and gross to me. My best friend and I have this debate all the time.. he thinks Jolie is grogeious...I disagree.

ETA: In movies Jolie always looks beatiful...however, when I''ve seen her at award shows or in your picture...her head looks too big for her way thin frame.
I have to agree that I did notice that Jolie''s lips look chapped a lot but not gross. I really think that her lips are very large for a white womand and maybe that''s why her lips look strange. Also I think she could gain 10lb. But really, have you seen Aniston without make up? I can''t image she would look better than Jolie.
 
I don''t think physical beauty matters to a child dying of starvation.
 
Date: 1/17/2006 2:10:59 PM
Author: moon river
I don''t think physical beauty matters to a child dying of starvation.

You''re right, they probably wouldn''t. But we weren''t talking about who is a prettier adoptive mother...we were giving our opinons on the actress.
 
I wasn''t refering to her being an adoptive mother. I was refering to all the lives she saved with her charity work. I think they are both physically beautiful in differant ways. Angelina is more exotic looking and Jennifer has that girl next door look. I don''t agree with how Angelina and Brad got together and I think that they''ll feel the fallout of that for a long time. I know Jennifer must feel like it''s a slap in the face, first w/him adopting and now with their pregnancy.
 
I think Angelina is just gorgeous. Aniston is very pretty in her own right, in a conventional way, but I don''t think she has the presence Angelina has. I read a lot of the stupid celeb mags, we pass them around here at work, and really I think Angie is drop dead even when she''s shopping with minimal make up. I think she''s one of the few celebs i''ve seen out there whose hair/complexion looks relatively close to what she looks like onscreen. Have you seen some of these celebs not on the big screen?? Kirstin Dunst (and yes I like her) looks like she hasn''t ever heard of the invention of shampoo! Britney spears has more acne than a pre teen during puberty but when you see her on tv she looks flawless! I have Angelina looking a little ragged but then again who wouldn''t running around Africa? It seems she and Brad have a very hands on activist approach where they are truly interested in the people and helping out. If you notice the pics they take of her, she''s never posing with them, she''s always doing something with the people she''s helping and she, to me, looks the best at those times. She truly looks happy and to me thats beautiful. I don''t think she does the Jess Simpson africa trip....ie i''ll hide out in my hotel room most of the time until I do a quick stop into your hut to reapply my lip gloss. Hahaha.

Regarding beauty I found some Jolie quotes that were fun:
Angelina on her looks:
"I am odd-looking. I sometimes think I look like a funny Muppet. "

Angelina on her body:
"I don''t see myself as beautiful, because I can see a lot of flaws. People have really odd opinions. They tell me I''m skinny, as if that''s supposed to make me happy. "
"I feel better when I have more weight on me. So it''s when I''m not feeling like myself that people are telling me I look great. It''s so strange. No matter what, somehow it''s like I''m not enough."

Seems she she;s something of the things you guys were mentioning!

I kinda feel like the whole did they or didn''t they cheat on Aniston thing is kinda been done on this thread we all have our own opinions, one of the things that helped me have mine was this quote:

"To be intimate with a married man, when my own father cheated on my mother, is not something I could forgive," she says. "I could not, could not look at myself in the morning if I did that."

No one but them, and possibly nosey ass Vince Vaughn knows what really happened. But she seems to have some pretty strong convictions and she''s alway struck me as a fairly open and honest person. I have no doubt that there was an attraction, but I think it''s possible for two people to be attracted to each other, and have feelings for each other and not act upon them. Who knows they could of even discussed it and just held off on being physical until he split with Aniston. I think if I were in that position I would easily be able to wait. Now some would say thats still cheating, plotting the end of your marriage to start a new relationship with another woman, but hell if your man is doing that do you really want him anyway?
 
Date: 1/17/2006 2:56:16 PM
Author: moon river
I wasn''t refering to her being an adoptive mother. I was refering to all the lives she saved with her charity work. I think they are both physically beautiful in differant ways. Angelina is more exotic looking and Jennifer has that girl next door look. I don''t agree with how Angelina and Brad got together and I think that they''ll feel the fallout of that for a long time. I know Jennifer must feel like it''s a slap in the face, first w/him adopting and now with their pregnancy.
How do you know how they got together? Why didn''t Aniston site Brad with adultery? She sited irreconcilable differences. She could have gotten way more sympathy. Why did she deny any third party being involved in their break up? Many celebrities are very candid about infidelity. We are all speculating but if you read Aniston''s interviews prior to the separation announce she sounded unsure about her marriage. Also Brad spent his 41st birthday alone (12/18/04)...... Then on 01/07/05 their separation was announced. This is well documented in the press. Oh well, the saga continues.
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If it''s a slap in the face maybe it''ll wake her up.....hmm maybe your x was serious when he said he wanted kids??? For a long time i''ve seen interviews and read articles where Brad kept saying he wanted to start a family. I understand it''s bad enough that her x is with another woman, and now starting a family with her, but it''s nothing Jen couldn''t of had herself, but she pushed it away. Maybe in her next relationship she will respect the life her partner wants and find a compromise or find someone that wants the same things she does. Don''t get me wrong i''m not saying she deserves this.....she seems to be a nice person and all, I just think it shouldn''t be that much of a shock and it was possibly avoidable.
 
Date: 1/17/2006 3:47:57 PM
Author: devientdrow
If it''s a slap in the face maybe it''ll wake her up.....hmm maybe your x was serious when he said he wanted kids??? For a long time i''ve seen interviews and read articles where Brad kept saying he wanted to start a family. I understand it''s bad enough that her x is with another woman, and now starting a family with her, but it''s nothing Jen couldn''t of had herself, but she pushed it away. Maybe in her next relationship she will respect the life her partner wants and find a compromise or find someone that wants the same things she does. Don''t get me wrong i''m not saying she deserves this.....she seems to be a nice person and all, I just think it shouldn''t be that much of a shock and it was possibly avoidable.
That''s exactly what I said in the beginning that Brad was serious! He would not have hooked up with a woman with two adoptive children, one adopted while she was with him! He was dead serious about wanted a family. He''s 41 years old! Pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.
 
A lot of celebrities site irreconcilable differences as the reason for divorces, for privacy issues...I mean what does that mean exactly?!?!? I think it could mean a lot of different things.

I also think it''s pure speculation that the reason why Brad Pitt was unhappy was because Jennifer Aniston never wanted kids. I never read in any magazine where she was quoted as saying anything in regards to her putting her career first before wanting a family. The only time I read that was when it was a ''source close to Jennifer'' or such. Also, I think Brad Pitt is a snake, I watched him on a Barbara Walters interview where she asked him what was important to him, what he wanted in life...he sounded so fake when he responded ''a family, kids''. I found nothing sincere in his response. I wouldn''t even be surprise if this whole adoption thing was for people to say ''look at how great Brad Pitt is.....'' Like I said the people I feel most sad for are Angelina''s kids.
 
Date: 1/17/2006 4:00:16 PM
Author: Caribou
A lot of celebrities site irreconcilable differences as the reason for divorces, for privacy issues...I mean what does that mean exactly?!?!? I think it could mean a lot of different things.

I also think it''s pure speculation that the reason why Brad Pitt was unhappy was because Jennifer Aniston never wanted kids. I never read in any magazine where she was quoted as saying anything in regards to her putting her career first before wanting a family. The only time I read that was when it was a ''source close to Jennifer'' or such. Also, I think Brad Pitt is a snake, I watched him on a Barbara Walters interview where she asked him what was important to him, what he wanted in life...he sounded so fake when he responded ''a family, kids''. I found nothing sincere in his response. I wouldn''t even be surprise if this whole adoption thing was for people to say ''look at how great Brad Pitt is.....'' Like I said the people I feel most sad for are Angelina''s kids.
Wow!
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You really think that the adoption thing is fake and that he''s a snake???
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I''m sure Angelina would have adopted regardless of being with Brad. I can only wish them the best since there are children involved.
 
Date: 1/17/2006 4:05:21 PM
Author: lmurden
Wow!
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You really think that the adoption thing is fake and that he's a snake???
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I'm sure Angelina would have adopted regardless of being with Brad. I can only wish them the best since there are children involved.
I don't think that of Angelina, at all. I totally respect her for adopting her kids (actually I have a huge amount of respect for any one who adopts) and she seems genuenily (horrible spelling) into her kids. I've never seen them with a nanny like you do a lot of celebraties.

However,I do not trust Brad Pitt's intentions ...from the minute I heard that he was doing that I thought it was not in the best intentions. Actually the more I think about, I feel most sorry for her kids but I'm starting feel sorry for her. I really do believe he's a snake and only out for himself.
 
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