Anyone watching H&M (lol)

[nala]

Meghan refers to Harry as H., and I don’t know why it annoys me so much. But she annoys me for so many other reasons.
What are your thoughts so far?

 

[Bron357]

I just can’t like Meghan. She has a very loose connection to the truth. Like her story that they got “married before the big event”. That was nonsense.
Im sure though that the whole Royal institution environment was just too foreign and too unbending for her taste.
im just glad that Harry is happy and they have two beautiful children but they shouldn’t be burning all their bridges for the sake of money.
They will peddle their story and then their value will drop dramatically. People like ”new information, new stuff”, they can’t just keep repeating ad nausem their woeful story and expect interest and further $$$$$$$$ to go their way.
The Royal family will just wipe their hands of them and that’s really sad for Harry and his kids, they’ll never know their family. All they’ll have is Doris and while she is a remarkable woman, it’s just not good to deny the children their full family and heritage.
For all their human failings, the Royal family did love them.

 

[Ally T]

I just can’t like Meghan. She has a very loose connection to the truth. Like her story that they got “married before the big event”. That was nonsense.
Im sure though that the whole Royal institution environment was just too foreign and too unbending for her taste.
im just glad that Harry is happy and they have two beautiful children but they shouldn’t be burning all their bridges for the sake of money.
They will peddle their story and then their value will drop dramatically. People like ”new information, new stuff”, they can’t just keep repeating ad nausem their woeful story and expect interest and further $$$$$$$$ to go their way.
The Royal family will just wipe their hands of them and that’s really sad for Harry and his kids, they’ll never know their family. All they’ll have is Doris and while she is a remarkable woman, it’s just not good to deny the children their full family and heritage.
For all their human failings, the Royal family did love them.

Absolutely this.

 

[MissGotRocks]

Absolutely this

I just can’t like Meghan. She has a very loose connection to the truth. Like her story that they got “married before the big event”. That was nonsense.
Im sure though that the whole Royal institution environment was just too foreign and too unbending for her taste.
im just glad that Harry is happy and they have two beautiful children but they shouldn’t be burning all their bridges for the sake of money.
They will peddle their story and then their value will drop dramatically. People like ”new information, new stuff”, they can’t just keep repeating ad nausem their woeful story and expect interest and further $$$$$$$$ to go their way.
The Royal family will just wipe their hands of them and that’s really sad for Harry and his kids, they’ll never know their family. All they’ll have is Doris and while she is a remarkable woman, it’s just not good to deny the children their full family and heritage.
For all their human failings, the Royal family did love them.

This pretty much sums up how I feel too. Meghan can't be trusted in my opinion and is a master manipulator. I hope their relationship works for the children's sake but I am not holding my breath.

 

[Mreader]

I just can’t like Meghan. She has a very loose connection to the truth. Like her story that they got “married before the big event”. That was nonsense.
Im sure though that the whole Royal institution environment was just too foreign and too unbending for her taste.
im just glad that Harry is happy and they have two beautiful children but they shouldn’t be burning all their bridges for the sake of money.
They will peddle their story and then their value will drop dramatically. People like ”new information, new stuff”, they can’t just keep repeating ad nausem their woeful story and expect interest and further $$$$$$$$ to go their way.
The Royal family will just wipe their hands of them and that’s really sad for Harry and his kids, they’ll never know their family. All they’ll have is Doris and while she is a remarkable woman, it’s just not good to deny the children their full family and heritage.
For all their human failings, the Royal family did love them.

What is “the big event”? I haven’t watched yet but I will.

 

[Tonks]

I watched (am recovering from surgery). Love H and M. I truly find it bizarre that the world places the blame for them leaving the monarchy on M. Look at the trauma that was the formative event of Harry’s youth. There are also interviews way before M where he made his disdain (really more hatred) of the press clear, and honestly, I think he was looking for a way out. I don’t blame him.

Not sure why we would want anyone to stay in such a horribly dysfunctional and emotionally harmful family and situation.

 

[tyty333]

I cant watch...but I really want to. I'm sure I would get a good laugh. She does seem like a master manipulator and the queen
of victimhood.

I have no problem with them leaving royal duties and going off to make their own way in life. I think they made a big mistake in
airing their dirty laundry. I do not trust a thing she says (like @Bron357 ) and I find her to be quite the ungrateful itchbay after
calling the wedding a "spectacle"! I guess because they didn't get what they wanted in the separation (half in/half out) they
have decided they don't want a relationship with the members of the royal family at all. How can the royal family ever invite
them to anything knowing that whatever happens at the event will be on the next Oprah Winfrey show or on their next Netflix documentary? Very sad!

 

[monarch64]

I watched (am recovering from surgery). Love H and M. I truly find it bizarre that the world places the blame for them leaving the monarchy on M. Look at the trauma that was the formative event of Harry’s youth. There are also interviews way before M where he made his disdain (really more hatred) of the press clear, and honestly, I think he was looking for a way out. I don’t blame him.

Not sure why we would want anyone to stay in such a horribly dysfunctional and emotionally harmful family and situation.

I think they’re great, and I’m very happy for them that they removed themselves from the brf and all its apparent toxicity. Whenever I hear people start harping on whatever they happen to find wrong with Meghan that particular day, I immediately cease to listen. The mean-girling is super cringe and just thinly veiled racism in many cases.

 

[MissGotRocks]

Meagan was far more worldly and mature than Diana was when she married into the royal family. There had been much said and written about that life so she should have had a pretty good idea of what she was getting into by marrying into the family. It is a life of service and much of it is not your own or your own making. It wouldn’t be a good life for me but I assume she thought it would be for her. However, it seemed as though she got in and planned to get out as that happened fairly straight away. I am sure that Harry was somewhat disenchanted with the life but those kids had been taught from birth what it was all about. If he was truly unhappy, I think he would have stepped away long before he got married. I think Meaghan would have been far better off just leaving with him instead of setting up the Oprah interview. She owed no one - particularly no one in America - an explanation. You can eschew the press on one hand and yet use them on the other for your own purposes. Been done for years.
So they left, had a few hiccups and surprises I am sure on the way, and should have been living happily ever after. Then they decide to do yet another show. Why? Just doesn’t make sense to keep chewing on the same thing if you want to live independent lives.
I truly wish them well as there are now two little ones to consider. However, Harry always seems to be knotted up to me in these shows - not a true picture of happiness and contentment. I am sure he struggles with leaving the royal family and being in love with someone that didn’t want that life after all. The freedom has to be enjoyable but it has a price to pay for him. I just hope she understands and appreciates that fact. They have done this together and I hope that together they remain and remain committed to their decision.

 

[dk168]

A resounding NO - can't stand the pair of them.

DK

 

[nala]

For me, the hardest part to believe is that she was clueless about everything royal. Please. You are a celebrity. We have the internet. You are well-traveled and even admit to watching the Princess Diaries. Her anecdotes, in which she emphasizes her ignorance of royal etiquette, are infuriating. No. She’s not cute, innocent, sweet, naive, etc. No one is buying, but why is she selling it?? Why not portray herself as an empowered woman and own her choices? You can’t be both.

 

[Daisys and Diamonds]

A resounding NO - can't stand the pair of them.

DK

the King hasnt watch
so im not watching either

im sick to the back teeth of the whole H&M production and their changing) recollection of events and the constant oh poor me and complaining
its been said that M didnt enjoy her tour out this part of the world, personally im very offended at the commonweath being called empire 2,0
The late Queen and Philip and HM's parents loved the commonweath and viewed us all as equals
i dont for a minute think the family are racist

do you remember Diana saying that Charles was actually a good dad ? i do
one thing ill give Wills and Charles credit for, is neither is saying a bad thing about Harry, they have risen above it like gentleman

i spent the first two years defending M, but now i think she is a gold digger (and a lier)
and that curtsy was insulting (ive read and seen articles, just not watched the actual thing - i am almost thinking about cancelling netflex over this and the crown)

perhaps M didnt realise the royal family are not actually flush with cash like how its flashed around in Hollywood ?

Mnnarchy predates celebrity, the BRF go back 1000 years, they must be doing something right

but ill say one thing, the moment either one of them attacks Catherine, well the gloves are off

 

[finerthings]

Well said @Daisys and Diamonds!

 

[Austina]

I wouldn’t add to their viewing figures on principle, heaven forbid it would actually encourage them to spew out more of their drivel.

The press have already pointed out that photos used to highlight the so-called press intrusion include one from 5 years ago, taken at a Harry Potter premier, a photo from outside Trumps accountant who was allegedly in trouble, and another from an entirely unrelated event.

For people who crave privacy, they’re certainly going about it in a strange way!

 

[dk168]

IMHO, they are hypocritical to complain about media intrusion, yet they are seldom out of the media, all by their own doing.

DK

 

[YadaYadaYada]

Nah, I’d rather watch old episodes of The First 48, more interesting and less drama

 

[Alybird]

No, but if one searches on Youtube, there is a Michelle Obama interview about that Oprah interview and it pretty much sums up how I feel.

I feel bad for Harry but I feel like he wanted, or rather, needed out. As an American and a woman, I can relate to not wanting to feel trapped in a stuffy institution but I cannot relate to how the couple has handled it through devaluing and invalidating traditions are still enriching and defining their identities.

Also, living in SoCal, I am just sick to death of virtue signalling. Whatever happened to just being a decent human being and treating others the way you'd like to be treated? I think a lot of people can't relate to the Suffering Olympics that they're feeding the media because there's a real sense of disconnect there especially after the global events of recent years. I don't doubt that there is trauma present. It's just that personally, I find the expression of it to be intrusive and ghastly and unproductive.

 

[Bron357]

Being a Royal is very hard work.
Sure the jewels and castles are great but it’s a 24/7 365 a year role. Always on display, always being scrutinized, always having to uphold being “Royal”.
Meghan didn’t like being 4th rate. In the hierarchy it was Queen, then Charles, then William.
Harry and Meghan would always be put behind the others and that rankled her. She wanted to choose her projects, choose her Charities and no doubt choose which events she wanted to attend. The reality is, it’s a job within a hierarchy, she got told what she would do and when she would do it.
It’s perfectly fine that they decided it wasn’t the life for them.
BUT they can’t have it both ways.
The can’t be “Royal” when it suits them so they can get attention and invites and use their titles as a way of generating income.
Especially not generating income by stretching the truth until it snaps and/ or whinging and whining about how badly they were treated.
Badly treated is reserved for people who have a hard life who are actually having a hard time, an awful and difficult life. Like being unemployed or unemployable, being homeless, being of poor health. Bad treatment isn’t not getting the tiara you wanted or your choice of diamonds and jewels or not being in the front row at events or having to travel in the Bentley and not the Rolls!

 

[Polished]

I think it was Camilla who said that Meghan was "obsessed with American politics" and was unlikely to want to stay and serve the UK. Harry, for his part was ready to give it away. Whether he regrets that in the future remains to be seen.

I hope they do enjoy their lives in America and make a philanthropic contribution down the track but the real issue now is that their currency lies in digging dirt on the royal family. They're making big bucks out of complaints and dramas. Also you might think that Harry would step up and defend his heritage occasionally. He came across as not being able to stand up to Meghan where it might be in both their interests if he did.

 

[HGar]

They have been proven to lie so I wouldn’t give them the benefit of doubt. By all means become celebrities but you don’t cr@p on the people who have given you the funds to live an extravagant lifestyle. You want privacy but not really - all very hypocritical IMO.

 

[Calliecake]

I haven’t watched it yet.

I can understand Harry and Meghan wanting to lead a different life if living life as a royal wasn’t for them. It’s the intentionally hurting people I don’t understand. Bringing Oprah and Netflix into this seemed intentionally hurtful, cruel and completely unnecessary.

 

[babs23r]

IMO, Harry was unhappy and Meghan figured out that if she married him, then she would be rich and famous. She had it all planned out in advance. Harry was an easy pawn. It's as simple as that. And that ridiculous "curtsey".
How embarrassing was that?!!!!!!!!!

 

[kenny]

I think the firm should open up that vacated position to applicants to be adopted into the firm, I mean family?

After all, everyone's blood is the same color.
And aren't adopted children equal to birth-children?

 

[monarch64]

IMO, Harry was unhappy and Meghan figured out that if she married him, then she would be rich and famous. She had it all planned out in advance. Harry was an easy pawn. It's as simple as that. And that ridiculous "curtsey".
How embarrassing was that?!!!!!!!!!

The misogyny in this comment and this thread is BEYOND.

 

[AprilBaby]

Nope. It’s a big whine fest.

 

[stracci2000]

Not watching.
I don't have Netflix, or cable TV.
I really have no interest in these two anyway.

It does puzzle me though.....Why couldn't she put up with all that Royal crap just to wear all the good jewels?

 

[Polished]

"It does puzzle me though.....Why couldn't she put up with all that Royal crap just to wear all the good jewels?"

Now we've moved onto the jewelry... I do think the tiara with the green emeralds that Eugenie wore for her wedding and that Meghan wanted to wear but was not permitted to, would have looked the best on her and her minimalist bridal look, than any other person I could think of.

 

[tyty333]

I didn't realize that was the one Megan wanted to wear. I had read (somewhere?)
That she had wanted one that had a tainted background and that's why she was refused.

The one that Eugenie wore was lovely.

Edit ... Just googled around some and found articles supporting both theories.

 

[DutchJackie]

I have no real opinion about H&M. I’m only surprised that they couldn’t work and still be in. The spares of the DRF have day jobs and do the occasional events. Why is that not an option for the spares of the BRF?

 

[Austina]

I have no real opinion about H&M. I’m only surprised that they couldn’t work and still be in. The spares of the DRF have day jobs and do the occasional events. Why is that not an option for the spares of the BRF?

I think the problem was that Harry didn’t have a day job to provide income, and they wanted all the perks of being members of the RF, like the security etc., but didn’t want to live in the country that would be paying for it. Not much of a deal for the UK is it?