Blues anyone?

[iLander]

I understand that these little testers have to be set in a very specific way. If set wrong, I think moissonite (sp?) will come up as a diamond.

What is it about Cuso's threads that every one of them ends in a spat of some kind or another?

Maybe his bombastic tone is contagious?

It's weird. . .

 

[iLander]

I would find an independent appraiser hopefully within driving distance and get an initial opinion.
IF they are diamond then off to gia they would go.

Plus one to this.

I think this is at the base of the point of what Kenny is trying to say.

The operative word is INDEPENDENT.

 

[clgwli]

I understand that these little testers have to be set in a very specific way. If set wrong, I think moissonite (sp?) will come up as a diamond.
What is it about Cuso's threads that every one of them ends in a spat of some kind or another?

Maybe his bombastic tone is contagious?

It's weird. . .

Interesting (ETA: that's interesting about what I underlined and all that in your post). I hadn't heard about that. But a quick look under magnification will show the doubling effect on a moissanite that a diamond does not have. And oddly enough that is what I was trying to say too. I use a jeweler for some work (like confirming yes or no to diamond) but that is because the few appraisers I have found locally don't seem very trustworthy to me or they were extremely rude over the phone. So I stick to the one I do trust now after working with them for over a decade (which is a long time for someone in their early 30s).

LAJennifer, I admit I am not understanding your argument (and for the record one was ebay and the other as I said was a family diamond that I had reason to ask about). Unless they are trying to buy on the spot, then why the worry? I truly am curious.

Honestly if a jeweler offered to buy something on the spot that I was not offering to sell, I would walk away. Is this a risk you are worried about or something else? Again really curious.

You personally have me curious if people here by nature distrust jewelers or an appraiser more than I assumed they do here. Which I would find odd since so many here seem to put a ton of trust in some jewelers to find them a stone w/o seemingly much questioning.

 

[rosetta]

I understand that these little testers have to be set in a very specific way. If set wrong, I think moissonite (sp?) will come up as a diamond.

What is it about Cuso's threads that every one of them ends in a spat of some kind or another?

Maybe his bombastic tone is contagious?

It's weird. . .

Well, I have no personal problem with him. It's simple courtesy to respond back to a thread you started, esp one that stirs up a bit of controversy. It's NOT an obligation however. A complete lack of response will definitely kill any credibility in my eyes (I entirely disagree with kenny here) and I'm sure I'm not the only one who thinks so. I think it's rude not to come back and clear things up.

Look, I'm sure other opinions abound, such is life.

PS I'm not ganging up on anyone. I don't have a gang.

 

[kenny]

Rosetta I like your sig line.
I can relate.

 

[rosetta]

Peace man, peace.

I respect your opinion kenny.

I WANT these rocks to be The Real McCoy, so I can drool, ooh and aah over them.

I mean, how often do you get to see 2 carat blues, like, anywhere??

 

[AGBF]

I don't mean to go off-topic here, but CUSO's blue diamonds got me curious about about how other blue diamonds might look. I took a fancy to the blue stones in this ring!

"Everyone looks for the expensive engagement rings to witness one of the most special days of one’s life. One such individual’s proposal to an ex-model involved a $1.5 million engagement ring. The price may seem way out there, but it’s not even close to the most expensive ring in the world.

The Chopard Blue Diamond Ring is the ring that makes any other diamond ring look bad. Set with many small blue and white diamonds, the expensive ring also has diamond shoulders and an platinum band paved with diamonds.

Blue diamond is among the most expensive diamonds in the world. It is found among boron deposits, from whence it derives its shade. This particular gem weighs in at nine carats.

The world’s most expensive ring is valued at $16.26 million, enough to put a dent in the wallets of even the wealthiest individuals."


Deb/AGBF

 

[Novel]

Deb, not to be a PITA, but I think this is actually the Chopard Blue Diamond Ring...(unless I'm missing irony here, in which case )

 

[that_someone_special]

There are two camps, but both require choice and action.

I think there's a third: Bury head in sand & continue to *believe*!

Isn't that what dreams are made of?

I think they look like topaz or something other than diamonds.

Why can't he do both? go to a jeweler or two, get them checked and then send them to GIA? I can't imagine 2, 3, 4 local jewelers could get it wrong?

He can.
Nobody said he can't.

Seriously?

 

[ksinger]

Deb, not to be a PITA, but I think this is actually the Chopard Blue Diamond Ring...(unless I'm missing irony here, in which case )

Well, I want THIS one!!!

 

[kenny]

There are two camps, but both require choice and action.

I think there's a third: Bury head in sand & continue to *believe*!

Isn't that what dreams are made of?

I think they look like topaz or something other than diamonds.

Why can't he do both? go to a jeweler or two, get them checked and then send them to GIA? I can't imagine 2, 3, 4 local jewelers could get it wrong?

He can.
Nobody said he can't.

Seriously?

Seriously.
I never said he can't.

I said I recommend GIA grading, not a jeweler.
That does not mean he can't.
Perhaps you are projecting your stuff onto what I wrote.
Hard to tell what you are saying, given one word and an emotie.

Plus I've even written a few times I respect diversity.
If going to a jeweler is your deal fine.
People vary.

 

[Novel]

Deb, not to be a PITA, but I think this is actually the Chopard Blue Diamond Ring...(unless I'm missing irony here, in which case )

Well, I want THIS one!!!

Me too! I'll tell SO to get right on that...

 

[AGBF]

Deb, not to be a PITA, but I think this is actually the Chopard Blue Diamond Ring...(unless I'm missing irony here, in which case )

Novel-

You're not a PITA, you are just right!!! I had never seen a photo of the ring before. Thank you for correcting me. I don't know what ring I got a picture of, but I truly love the blues in the center of it. I am obviously no connoisseur of colored diamonds!

Deb/AGBF

 

[clgwli]

Does that cluster ring (whatever it is called) have blue gold? That's cool if it does!!!!

I admit I would love to see the OPs stones come up as real. I know he said they were verified diamonds, but I didn't get the impression they were ever tested. If I got that wrong, then I totally apologize!

I love blue diamonds, but realize I will never be able to afford a well cut one of any real size that isn't completely natural. If the OP has the real deal, that rocks. I do wish he'd come back to say something about this!

And I haven't read any of his other threads that I can recall. So I apologize for asking questions about others opinions. I try to understand even if I don't agree. Sometimes it takes me a while to fully understand the thought processes behind it all. Because we all think differently we may not follow the line of thought so quickly.

 

[kenny]

AGBF, is the blue color in the diamonds in your pic of natural origin?
Cigwli I love that blue metal too.

 

[AGBF]

AGBF, is that blue color in your pic of natural origin?
Cigwli I love that blue metal too.

Kenny-

I wish I knew! I cannot find out where this ring really came from in order to figure out what it is really made from. It is only listed in connection with a site called, "The Privileged Club" as far as I can see! I welcome any help in finding out what it is made from!

Deb/AGBF

 

[iLander]

You personally have me curious if people here by nature distrust jewelers or an appraiser more than I assumed they do here. Which I would find odd since so many here seem to put a ton of trust in some jewelers to find them a stone w/o seemingly much questioning.

I started this thread over in colored stones, that details the experiences of some PSer's when dealing with brick-n-mortar jewelers. There are many tales of woe here.

[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/gripe-list-your-brick-n-mortar-jeweler-problems-issues-rants.145065/']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/gripe-list-your-brick-n-mortar-jeweler-problems-issues-rants.145065/[/URL]

Now, there are also MANY good jewelers out there. But, just like your difficulty in finding a good appraiser, I have had difficulty finding a good jeweler.

BTW: I'm not sure how those diamond testers work, so maybe a trade member will expound on this.

I have watched a mall jeweler test one of my diamonds, though. It came up as not a diamond, until he flicked some kind of switch and adjusted the angle of the little tester. Then it came up as a diamond. So I think there is some skill to it.

 

[kenny]

Curious, I googled "Blue diamond cluster ring" and found the pic.
When I looked at all 8 pages of the link I could not find the ring, but it had other blue stone rings that were so inexpensive I'm certain they could not be natural blue diamonds.

You can find the link too if you just google what I did.
It's on the first page of google images.

The subject of blue in diamonds interests deeply me since I have one.
I love learning more about the subject.

 

[iLander]

I understand that these little testers have to be set in a very specific way. If set wrong, I think moissonite (sp?) will come up as a diamond.

What is it about Cuso's threads that every one of them ends in a spat of some kind or another?

Maybe his bombastic tone is contagious?

It's weird. . .

Well, I have no personal problem with him. It's simple courtesy to respond back to a thread you started, esp one that stirs up a bit of controversy. It's NOT an obligation however. A complete lack of response will definitely kill any credibility in my eyes (I entirely disagree with kenny here) and I'm sure I'm not the only one who thinks so. I think it's rude not to come back and clear things up.

Look, I'm sure other opinions abound, such is life.

PS I'm not ganging up on anyone. I don't have a gang.

Sorry, rosette,if I wasn't clear. I was referring to some of the threads that the OP posted in hangout.

They created some arguments . . .

 

[MonkeyPie]

I'm curious how that diamond cluster ring has blue metal. Curious.

 

[kenny]

I'm curious how that diamond cluster ring has blue metal. Curious.

Maybe it is the same process they use to "blue" steel: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluing_(steel)

 

[rosetta]

I understand that these little testers have to be set in a very specific way. If set wrong, I think moissonite (sp?) will come up as a diamond.

What is it about Cuso's threads that every one of them ends in a spat of some kind or another?

Maybe his bombastic tone is contagious?

It's weird. . .

Well, I have no personal problem with him. It's simple courtesy to respond back to a thread you started, esp one that stirs up a bit of controversy. It's NOT an obligation however. A complete lack of response will definitely kill any credibility in my eyes (I entirely disagree with kenny here) and I'm sure I'm not the only one who thinks so. I think it's rude not to come back and clear things up.

Look, I'm sure other opinions abound, such is life.

PS I'm not ganging up on anyone. I don't have a gang.

Sorry, rosette,if I wasn't clear. I was referring to some of the threads that the OP posted in hangout.

They created some arguments . . .

No problem ilander. No offense taken at all!

 

[AGBF]

Curious, I googled "Blue diamond cluster ring" and found the pic.
When I looked at all 8 pages of the link I could not find the ring, but it had other blue stone rings that were so inexpensive I'm certain they could not be natural blue diamonds.

You can find the link too if you just google what I did.
It's on the first page of google images.

The subject of blue in diamonds interests deeply me since I have one.
I love learning more about the subject.

I eventually found this image, too, Kenny. Probably after you did. It didn't tell me anything about the ring's origins, however. It just showed that someone was unloading one of the rings cheaply. I am interested in finding out who originally made the ring and from what. Do you have any ideas on how to dig deeper for more info?

Deb

 

[Novel]

Curious, I googled "Blue diamond cluster ring" and found the pic.
When I looked at all 8 pages of the link I could not find the ring, but it had other blue stone rings that were so inexpensive I'm certain they could not be natural blue diamonds.

You can find the link too if you just google what I did.
It's on the first page of google images.

The subject of blue in diamonds interests deeply me since I have one.
I love learning more about the subject.

I eventually found this image, too, Kenny. Probably after you did. It didn't tell me anything about the ring's origins, however. It just showed that someone was unloading one of the rings cheaply. I am interested in finding out who originally made the ring and from what. Do you have any ideas on how to dig deeper for more info?

Deb

Got it! It looked like an Amazon jewelry pic to me. The original link is http://www.amazon.com/Size-Cluster-...4O/ref=sr_1_48?ie=UTF8&qid=1294015086&sr=8-48.

ETA: could the blue metal just be blackened gold?

 

[kenny]

Good job Novel.

At the bottom it says no stone treatment but, come on now, all those "blue" diamonds (natural) for only $367.
Okie Dokie, Then . . . Cough Cough!

 

[clgwli]

Blue gold does exist. I can't find the links at the moment but it is out there. I'll keep looking.

 

[MichelleCarmen]

Can't he find a reputable jeweler who will test them for free regardless of what they are?

Of course he can.
I don't think he should.
I've already stated why.

Also though you've conveyed your personal experience if I had perhaps millions of dollars at stake nobody's personal experience holds as much weight as a GIA report.
Plus when this much money is at stake a few hundred bucks and free are quite similar.

Kenny - this is why this whole thread is a big joke which Cuso is playing on us. If there are millions at stake WHO would be spending all this time on PS discussing it when instead he could getting off his butt and figuring out how he's going to enjoy his stacks of bills?

 

[kenny]

No problem.
You may be right.
It doesn't matter to me either way.

Also there really ARE people out there terribly misinformed and living in fantasyland about their gems.

 

[Novel]

Good job Novel.

At the bottom it says no stone treatment but, come on now, all those "blue" diamonds (natural) for only $367.
Okie Dokie, Then . . . Cough Cough!

Why thank you... I wish there were a curtsy-ing smiley.

I think its ignoring the blue diamonds altogether in the description, because just below where your screenshot cuts off, it says

"This dazzling diamond item is set in Pure 10k White Gold. Each one of the 100% real and natural diamonds is near colorless (H-color) with a gleaming clarity at I1. This popular design contains a total diamond weight of 1/2ct."

 

[kenny]

Good job Novel.

At the bottom it says no stone treatment but, come on now, all those "blue" diamonds (natural) for only $367.
Okie Dokie, Then . . . Cough Cough!

Why thank you... I wish there were a curtsy-ing smiley.

I think its ignoring the blue diamonds altogether in the description, because just below where your screenshot cuts off, it says

"This dazzling diamond item is set in Pure 10k White Gold. Each one of the 100% real and natural diamonds is near colorless (H-color) with a gleaming clarity at I1. This popular design contains a total diamond weight of 1/2ct."

Yeah an irradiated blue IS a 100% real and natural diamond, if it was minded rather than lab-grown - but they conveniently forgot to mention the origin of the color.