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Allie, I am also doing the screening in a week or so (looking forward to detailed ultrasound!) and I think HH is getting hers later this week? It pretty common, especially as here in CA the state has mandated that women be offered the screening and its non-invasive (unless you consider the blood draw invasive).
My friend actually got a bad result from the screening and was upset and stressed... but still, the odds of something being wrong after the bad test went to 1:50 or so, which means most likely everything was fine with only a 2% chance of something being wrong even after her screening results. And she had the amnio and some other tests, everything *was* fine with definitive diagnostic screening done.
Oh, the CF screening, I was all excited (my husband does genetics, so in a nerdy kind of way) but then looked at the details on the test... my test only tested for 25 mutations (out of 100s known that cause CF). Those 25 mutations account for the vast majority of CF mutations in the Eastern Europe Jews, but are not as complete a list for general Caucasion so again its an incomplete screening test for me... I''m not a carrier of one of the 25, but could still be a carrier of one of the other mutations (odds went from 1:29 unscreened to 1:130 or so...) Which is something but not the difinitive ''you are not a CF carrier'' I was hoping for.
Allie great that your hubs is not a carrier so you two don''t have to worry (anymore)!
My friend actually got a bad result from the screening and was upset and stressed... but still, the odds of something being wrong after the bad test went to 1:50 or so, which means most likely everything was fine with only a 2% chance of something being wrong even after her screening results. And she had the amnio and some other tests, everything *was* fine with definitive diagnostic screening done.
Oh, the CF screening, I was all excited (my husband does genetics, so in a nerdy kind of way) but then looked at the details on the test... my test only tested for 25 mutations (out of 100s known that cause CF). Those 25 mutations account for the vast majority of CF mutations in the Eastern Europe Jews, but are not as complete a list for general Caucasion so again its an incomplete screening test for me... I''m not a carrier of one of the 25, but could still be a carrier of one of the other mutations (odds went from 1:29 unscreened to 1:130 or so...) Which is something but not the difinitive ''you are not a CF carrier'' I was hoping for.
Allie great that your hubs is not a carrier so you two don''t have to worry (anymore)!
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welcome and congrats allie!!
re: CF...if they know which mutation you are a carrier for, i would assume they tested your husband specifically for that one. if he isn't a carrier for that mutation, then my understanding is that your child would not be affected. if your husband HAPPENED to be a carrier for a different (untested) mutation, i *think* that the only possibility is that the kid could potentially be a carrier for 2 different types of mutations (which would theoretically increase your child's risk of having a child with CF simply b/c he would have 2 known mutations). unless of course you BOTH were carriers for a very rare untested type of mutation. it's very confusing!!
fwiw, i'm also ashkenazi and had the "jewish genetic panel." they test of a TON of different diseases in addition to Tay sachs and CF. thankfully i wasn't a carrier for any of them so DH didn't have to be tested...
RE: moving while pregnant... with my son, we were scheduled to move into our new house when i was 28 weeks along, which we thought would be fine. unfortunately, i started having preterm labor at 26 weeks and was put on bedrest, and then started dilating THE DAY BEFORE OUR MOVE. i was in the hospital all day (thankfully they discharged me overnight), but had to go back the next day for my second round of steroid shots...in the middle of our move. my poor hubby did EVERYTHING. but...my point is that we still moved in, despite me not being able to do ANYTHING, and were able to be reasonably settled. it kind of sucks of DHs, but i assume they all know what they're getting into!!
KIM: thanks for sharing your beautiful birth story!!
hope everyone else is well!
xo,LIA
re: CF...if they know which mutation you are a carrier for, i would assume they tested your husband specifically for that one. if he isn't a carrier for that mutation, then my understanding is that your child would not be affected. if your husband HAPPENED to be a carrier for a different (untested) mutation, i *think* that the only possibility is that the kid could potentially be a carrier for 2 different types of mutations (which would theoretically increase your child's risk of having a child with CF simply b/c he would have 2 known mutations). unless of course you BOTH were carriers for a very rare untested type of mutation. it's very confusing!!
fwiw, i'm also ashkenazi and had the "jewish genetic panel." they test of a TON of different diseases in addition to Tay sachs and CF. thankfully i wasn't a carrier for any of them so DH didn't have to be tested...
RE: moving while pregnant... with my son, we were scheduled to move into our new house when i was 28 weeks along, which we thought would be fine. unfortunately, i started having preterm labor at 26 weeks and was put on bedrest, and then started dilating THE DAY BEFORE OUR MOVE. i was in the hospital all day (thankfully they discharged me overnight), but had to go back the next day for my second round of steroid shots...in the middle of our move. my poor hubby did EVERYTHING. but...my point is that we still moved in, despite me not being able to do ANYTHING, and were able to be reasonably settled. it kind of sucks of DHs, but i assume they all know what they're getting into!!
KIM: thanks for sharing your beautiful birth story!!
hope everyone else is well!
xo,LIA
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Welcome, Allie! Congratulations!
drk~ Hoping that your absence means you''re in labor!! Lots of dust for you!
I just got back from my appt. I''ve gained 4lbs which brings my total gain to 4 lbs. I am just over 20 weeks and I''m measuring just over 25. I''m concerned that I''m going to get bigger than I did with JT. My US is next week so we''ll find out the gender and perhaps get an idea if Baby is getting this big, or if it''s just my uterus.
I wanted to paint the bathroom this past weekend but upon stripping the wallpaper, we found mushy walls and LOTS of mold. We had to rip out our shower and most of 2 walls. We had not intended on having such a renovation right now, but at least we got the mold out. I think it was sealed by the wallpaper (vinyl) enough that we weren''t breathing in much of the mold, but it is still disturbing.
Hope you''re all having a good day!
drk~ Hoping that your absence means you''re in labor!! Lots of dust for you!
I just got back from my appt. I''ve gained 4lbs which brings my total gain to 4 lbs. I am just over 20 weeks and I''m measuring just over 25. I''m concerned that I''m going to get bigger than I did with JT. My US is next week so we''ll find out the gender and perhaps get an idea if Baby is getting this big, or if it''s just my uterus.
I wanted to paint the bathroom this past weekend but upon stripping the wallpaper, we found mushy walls and LOTS of mold. We had to rip out our shower and most of 2 walls. We had not intended on having such a renovation right now, but at least we got the mold out. I think it was sealed by the wallpaper (vinyl) enough that we weren''t breathing in much of the mold, but it is still disturbing.
Hope you''re all having a good day!
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Allie, if your husband is also of ashkenazi jewish descent, I think the panel is pretty good, meaning it is pretty unlikely that he has a mutation that was not detected by the screen. It is ALWAYS possible that one has a mutation that they do not test for (unless they do a much more expensive/involved method where they determine they actual DNA spelling of the relevant genes and see they are correct rather than looking for known mutations), because he could have a novel mutation that no one else has studied or has found.
If he is not Ashkenazi, the screen may not be as complete. For example, this was included with my test results:
Also, you should probably discuss this concern with your genetic counselor as I am not sure that LIA is correct but I am not an expert. My understanding is that a person needs at least one working copy of the gene that codes for the cystic fibrosis protein in order to not have CF. If a child gets one mutated, non-working copy from their mother, and another mutated, non-working copy from their father, the child has no good copies of the gene and will have CF. It doesn't matter if the mother and father passed on different mutations - if neither one codes for functioning protein, the child will have the disease.
If he is not Ashkenazi, the screen may not be as complete. For example, this was included with my test results:
So I think this means that 97% of CF-causing mutations are detected by the screen for Ashkenazi Jews, but only 57% of such mutations are detected for Hispanic Americans, for example. I am non-hispanic caucasian, so before screening my odds of being a CF carrier were 1:29, but now that I have passed the screening they are 1:140. Etc.
Also, you should probably discuss this concern with your genetic counselor as I am not sure that LIA is correct but I am not an expert. My understanding is that a person needs at least one working copy of the gene that codes for the cystic fibrosis protein in order to not have CF. If a child gets one mutated, non-working copy from their mother, and another mutated, non-working copy from their father, the child has no good copies of the gene and will have CF. It doesn't matter if the mother and father passed on different mutations - if neither one codes for functioning protein, the child will have the disease.
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Thank you for the explanation Cara. Actually if both parents pass one a carrier gene to the child, the child has a 25% chance of having CF since the gene for CF is a recessive one. There is a 50% chance of them being a carrier and a 25% chance of them having neither the carrier or full blown CF. We will definitely talk to our genetic counselor about this but I doubt we will seek further screening. I was also under the impression that the mutation has to be in the same strain in order for the disease to be passed on but I could be wrong. They never told me what strain I was a carrier for. My husband is white/catholic so I am not sure which strains they tested him for. I am hoping the genetic counselor will have more answers for us.
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Still here, still waiting. This is a stubborn child!
I did another load of laundry tonight to wash more baby stuff. She''s kicking the **** out of my ribs as usual right now. I''d like to get this over with! 10/3/10 would be a damn cool birthday (though not as good as my niece''s 09/09/09), so now would be a good time to go into labour!
I did another load of laundry tonight to wash more baby stuff. She''s kicking the **** out of my ribs as usual right now. I''d like to get this over with! 10/3/10 would be a damn cool birthday (though not as good as my niece''s 09/09/09), so now would be a good time to go into labour!
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hang in there DRK!!! bounce on the exercise ball, i swear that is what did it for me...!!
quick note to all the preggos... people will go CRAZY buying your baby clothes. try to resist buying stuff yourself unless it''s sooo absolutely super cute (or really basic)..! i say this as i just hung up like 30 items that we got in the last 2-3 weeks from people. and when i say PEOPLE i mean random people we don''t even really know. greg''s coworkers, my mom''s coworkers who don''t even know me... her friends, friends of friends, random relatives in other countries. things arrived in the mail almost daily. and people don''t just send one pair of socks. it''s like crazy amts of stuff. the kid''s closet is packed to BURSTING from ages birth to TWO YEARS OLD. he even has jackets and shoes.
and i have clothes everywhere, his chest of drawers is full and i have baskets of onesies in practically every size underneath the dresser too! i can''t even use it all so i am saving some for regifts since i have so many preggo friends.
anyway, i was hanging this stuff up tonite going REALLY? (but stuff is so cute!) so ... save yourself some $$ and buy some other basics that people won''t give you like the bathtub or diapers hahhaa. i know it''s not as fun but it''s far more practical!
quick note to all the preggos... people will go CRAZY buying your baby clothes. try to resist buying stuff yourself unless it''s sooo absolutely super cute (or really basic)..! i say this as i just hung up like 30 items that we got in the last 2-3 weeks from people. and when i say PEOPLE i mean random people we don''t even really know. greg''s coworkers, my mom''s coworkers who don''t even know me... her friends, friends of friends, random relatives in other countries. things arrived in the mail almost daily. and people don''t just send one pair of socks. it''s like crazy amts of stuff. the kid''s closet is packed to BURSTING from ages birth to TWO YEARS OLD. he even has jackets and shoes.
and i have clothes everywhere, his chest of drawers is full and i have baskets of onesies in practically every size underneath the dresser too! i can''t even use it all so i am saving some for regifts since i have so many preggo friends.
anyway, i was hanging this stuff up tonite going REALLY? (but stuff is so cute!) so ... save yourself some $$ and buy some other basics that people won''t give you like the bathtub or diapers hahhaa. i know it''s not as fun but it''s far more practical!
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Allie-stay off of google, babycenter and the bump please. They''re only going to stress you out and that''s really not good for you or the little one. There''s no need to freak out over this first screening. Honestly with the number of false positives there''s a good chance that you, me, Cara or anyone else could end up having to move on to the CVS or Amnio. It''s not the end of the world and it doesn''t definitively mean your baby is going to have issues. Some things are left up to chance and we have to accept that and not let it get under our skin.
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I know I need to. Everyone says so! Especially since I am one of those obsessive searchers. I VOW to stick to pricescope and stay off babycenter, google and the bump. My first tri screening is scheduled and I am feeling pretty good about it. I can''t wait to see the baby again, especially since by then Shim will look like an actual baby and not just a gummy bear looking splotch on the screen!
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Babycenter is just like a pool of sadness especially on my birthboard. Since we are all so early on, people are dropping like flies. I was a ball of nerves until we went to our doctors appointment. I had convinced myself that there would be something wrong. I have been banned by my best friend, my mother, by husband and my doctor.
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LOL. I refused to let DH take photos of mine, but they looked just like that at 34 weeks. I hate to say it but they can get a LOT worse than that by the end - and I kept mine elevated and wore stockings to try and bring it down. It was how I put on the 70lbs+...
Getting my ankles back was amazing - it took about a week after the birth for it to happen.
ETA: For those of you who are curious, it doesn''t feel squidgy like I''d imagined. It feels hard and rather numbed and it HURTS.
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Still here and waiting at 40+5. This is a not-so-cooperative uterus and baby! Cervix was totally unchanged when I was bad and checked again last night, so the stretch & sweep didn''t seem to have done much of anything. I''m praying that it starts soon...
Swimmer - thanks for the update. How nice that Fisher gave up PS for lent. I can''t remember when I last gave something up for it (kind of a non-practicing catholic here), or when I managed to remember to not eat meat on a Friday. So sorry to hear that your friend is still in limbo. I never got the real story on how my friend who had incredibly severe IUGR with no hope of survival ended her pregnancy at about the 24 week mark. She mentioned something about a dilatation and evacuation on the phone a couple weeks back, which I think means making the whole thing a surgical termination. I know that around here they will induce labour up to 24 weeks, particularly in that sort of situation, and then just not resuscitate after delivery. (Sadly, I''ve even seen someone be induced because their baby had a club foot. I couldn''t believe it. That''s so minor and surgically repairable. Just craziness).
Maybe I''ll have to go out for another walk today even though the few days of sunny weather are over now. Or like Mara suggested, pump up the exercise ball and jostle things around. It''s almost starting to feel like MP will have her baby before this kid shows up!
Swimmer - thanks for the update. How nice that Fisher gave up PS for lent. I can''t remember when I last gave something up for it (kind of a non-practicing catholic here), or when I managed to remember to not eat meat on a Friday. So sorry to hear that your friend is still in limbo. I never got the real story on how my friend who had incredibly severe IUGR with no hope of survival ended her pregnancy at about the 24 week mark. She mentioned something about a dilatation and evacuation on the phone a couple weeks back, which I think means making the whole thing a surgical termination. I know that around here they will induce labour up to 24 weeks, particularly in that sort of situation, and then just not resuscitate after delivery. (Sadly, I''ve even seen someone be induced because their baby had a club foot. I couldn''t believe it. That''s so minor and surgically repairable. Just craziness).
Maybe I''ll have to go out for another walk today even though the few days of sunny weather are over now. Or like Mara suggested, pump up the exercise ball and jostle things around. It''s almost starting to feel like MP will have her baby before this kid shows up!
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I really, really hope not! As much as I want him out, every day that passes for you without any change makes me feel bad lol. I know you must be so miserable. I''m really rooting for you to get going!
My sleep last night was really messed up - I slept great until around 1 or 2, then woke up all freaking out, I think from a nightmare, and never properly went back to sleep. So I''m exhausted, but I am also super lightheaded. I''m really woozy and feel weak, though I did try eating something to see if it was just my blood sugar. It''s been dropping like mad lately, I''m going to tell my midwife about it Friday in case it''s a concern. My blood sugar levels were always good on paper, but in the last week I get a blood sugar drop - complete with shakes and bad vision - at least once a day. I''m always hungry all the time, too, and the baby hasn''t taken over my belly so much that I can''t eat like I heard was common. I am a bottomless pit! I think this means he should come out, like next week lol. That would be fabulous.
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Allie, when are you due? I frequent the September board of the Bump.com and I''m really starting to dig it (but not as much as you ladies). Unlike the first trimester board where you''re inundated with dumb questions and early miscarriages, over there we''re really bonding and developing into a core group. It''s nice to know those ladies are going through the same thing I am and to think that they will be there every step of the way, mostly without snark or judgment. Just a thought, I bet the October board is great too. My user name is the same there as it is here-just fyi.
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Oh! I can''t believe I forgot. The screening went well. We went in, met with a nurse who walked us through the process and what the next steps were, then we went in for the u/s (I have pics but I need to scan them. I was told they wouldn''t have given us pictures if there was something wrong, so that''s a good sign. Then we went in and spoke with a genetic counselor about some of our familial history(Osteogenesis Imperfecta and possible Fragile X) and then had one vial of blood drawn. It was a long morning-2 hours, but it was very low stress and relaxed. The u/s tech had the personality of my shoe. Actually I''m wearing my patent leather dansko clogs so I think they might have more personality than she did. I''m totally not a rainbow and unicorns kind of person normally, but for some reason I expect it in the docs, nurses and techs I''m meeting with. Clearly this is something I need to get over prior to delivery.
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Glad to hear everything went well, HH. Our first ultrasound tech was awful. It was like she was reading a script and her tone of voice didn''t fluctuate AT ALL. The gal who did our NT screening was great. We couldn''t have been happier. We get our 20 week ultrasound next week and I''m hoping for a good experience. I don''t want someone with less personality than your patent leather shoe to ruin it!
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HH- Glad to hear it went well. Just to let you know, rainbows and unicorns in a doctor can be ohh so annoying as well! My doctor''s assistant is like this, and it makes me feel like she sees me as a 2 yr old.
Don''t these people know the perfect mix of excitement and professionalism that we expect?!?!
Pandora- I didn''t know you had the swelling! I feel so bad for my sister. She is TINY everywhere else. I have a feeling that if I saw her right now, it would look like someone had stuffed leg warmers inside of her skin. She said the rest of her body, from above her mid claf, is perfectly fine... but her ankles and feet are just ginormous!
Don''t these people know the perfect mix of excitement and professionalism that we expect?!?!
Pandora- I didn''t know you had the swelling! I feel so bad for my sister. She is TINY everywhere else. I have a feeling that if I saw her right now, it would look like someone had stuffed leg warmers inside of her skin. She said the rest of her body, from above her mid claf, is perfectly fine... but her ankles and feet are just ginormous!
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I stopped by to see if drk was in labor yet...sorry to see you''re still holding on. You should try baking ON the exercise ball!
HH~ Yay!
So, I''ve been a bit weirded out by the whole measuring big thing. Finally I realized I am NOT 20+ weeks, I am 21+ weeks. So that makes it a bit better. Also, I measured myself today and got a slightly lower measurement. Unfortunately, I decided to google the measuring and ended up feeling worse. I just need to relax and have the US next week and see what''s up.
HH~ Yay!
So, I''ve been a bit weirded out by the whole measuring big thing. Finally I realized I am NOT 20+ weeks, I am 21+ weeks. So that makes it a bit better. Also, I measured myself today and got a slightly lower measurement. Unfortunately, I decided to google the measuring and ended up feeling worse. I just need to relax and have the US next week and see what''s up.
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Vent ahead....
I just got a call from the US scheduling. My appt has to be moved to the 22nd. It''s very hard to get in for an US appt because they have limited availability so we scheduled a few weeks ago. Now with the measuring big I feel like I NEED to get in. I am so POd! So, now my US won''t be until I''m almost 24 weeks.
I just feel like crying.
I just got a call from the US scheduling. My appt has to be moved to the 22nd. It''s very hard to get in for an US appt because they have limited availability so we scheduled a few weeks ago. Now with the measuring big I feel like I NEED to get in. I am so POd! So, now my US won''t be until I''m almost 24 weeks.
I just feel like crying.
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