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Shiny_Rock
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I’m so excited about that band!
FOMO is real so I just purchased the princess cut version of the sapphire band from Inken. I'm so excited for you... and me!!! lol
I’m so excited about that band!
FOMO is real so I just purchased the princess cut version of the sapphire band from Inken. I'm so excited for you... and me!!! lol
So flattered to be tagged @Cerulean, and sorry for the holdup! It’s been an absolute hell week — death in the family, grand theft auto, emergency kitty hospitalization — but I finally have a chaos-free moment to reply. Assuming a plague of locusts doesn’t strike before I finish typing…
Of the two specific rings in your first post, I prefer the celestial option.
It seems like the floral (and brussel sprout!) designs you are currently considering are a bit of a departure from the more sculptural/asymmetric/organic ideas you toyed with in previous threads. What pushed you in this new direction, if you don’t mind me asking?
Full disclosure: floral motifs that are super stylized/only vaguely suggestive of petals, etc. aren’t the most exciting to me (PS blasphemy, I know). I really liked some of the flowery rings you’d previously shared in your mokume gane thread, and I was especially keen on the more organic, dimensional petal design sketched by @yssi in your VCA wire flower thread. I just prefer a more…literal(?) interpretation, I guess. And I do think a wearable version of that is totally possible, especially for an artsy fartsy type such as yourself.
I was also really drawn to the art nouveau-ish green gemstone ring you shared in that same thread. I may have missed some posts here and there — out of curiosity, why did you decide against working with that designer? Was it just an issue of that particular design not meshing well with the multicolor and original WBs?
I’ve run across some pieces on 1stDibs, IG, etc. over the last few weeks that made me think of you/your previous reset threads, but I don’t think I saved them. Kicking myself now! I’ll scroll through my camera roll just in case.
Can’t wait to see where you land with this reset!
These are all extremely reasonable questions. I feel like I’ve bounced all over the place with this project! To the moon and back, one might say!
The primary change for all of it, is an underlying desire to pick a style that goes with my original, plain ‘ole wedding ring. The more I thought about tossing it aside for the sake of a stylistic change, the sadder I felt. I thought I wasn’t very sentimental about it, but I think my husband swayed me. It is very important to him although he was willing to have me put it away in a box, and I think that is ultimately why it’s important to me too. He practically sighed with relief when I shared that I may want to pick a design that will match it and keep it as part my daily stack.
Neither the very organic hand carved floral style or the mokume gane would make much sense with a plain platinum band, unfortunately. I also agree with posters that I should nab a special mokume gane piece while actually in Japan! And this is another silly detail…but I really prefer the organic pieces in yellow gold and they are more accurate to the real time. Art nouveau items were never, ever made in platinum. The little art historian in me is a bit unnerved by the perversion, metal choice is a concession I made with my husband (i.e. that I’d go with platinum no matter what so our sets vaguely matched.) I also bought a very white diamond and would prefer her in a white metal.
I think you are right about the halfway-to-organic styles. I find them less exciting too and you helped articulate it for me.
TLDR; husband agreed that those styles can be explored in the future for special anniversaries for alternative sets. What a sweetie.
Apologies for the thread jack... @Cerulean My ering is platinum and I'm pretty sure it's art nouveau. No?
I was going to mention this in my original comment, but I cut it as my post was already long as hell: I love that you plan to keep your original wedding band (altered width or not). For one, I’m a sentimental fool, so I would personally want to do the same in your shoes. For another, I think it’s great you are recognizing and respecting something that’s super important to your feller. As I think we’ve already established, you and I have a similar dynamic with our respective dudes — their jewelry opinions are as fervent as they are rare, so it’s nice to throw them a bone when they do pipe up about something. Especially when it’s an easy bone to fling. Funny that you are discovering you might be the sentimental type, too!
TOTALLY understand your preference for yellow gold when it comes to organic/sculptural designs. I feel the same way, but kinda figured it was a “just me” thing. Not sure if it’s the anachronism for me, as I don’t think I’d ever do a straight up art nouveau repro myself. But on a gut level, artsy sculptural pieces just feel right in 18k yellow gold. Whereas platinum perfectly suits a celestial motif — and as @yssie pointed out, there’s a nice “red thread” between the milgrain sidestones and plain shank in your example to your wedding band and bright cut eternity. And while I personally like the contrast of colorless diamonds in high(er) karat YG, I totally get why you prefer to keep your E in platinum, especially considering the need to match the wedding band. For whatever reason, I really like the look of plain yellow gold bands with platinum e-rings, but would not like a yellow gold e-ring with a platinum WB.
So let’s 86 the floral motif altogether. And make a pact to both do mondo artsy fartsy, photorealistic/sculptural 18k RHRs after our e-rings are done!
Now that that’s settled — I’m on board with @yssie’s suggestions for the celestial ring, although I wouldn’t have come up with them myself.
Only thing I’m not so sure about is the bezel. Like you, I’m not a big on enclosed bezels. And I think it might feel too much like your current setting with the partial bezels (at least it would for me). But I don’t pretend to know jack about jewelry design and don’t have a better solution to offer.
- I LOVE the thought of hiding a colored stone (that matches one of the sapphires in the eternity) flush set in the inside of the e-ring shank. I know you mentioned Inken only has enough melee for one band, but if you do a one-stone sizer spacer, would that mean you have one loose stone left over to use in the e-ring?
- Totally dig the idea of exaggerating the air gap between the center and moons. Like @DorotheaBrooke , I appreciate the subtlety of the moons — I think a celestial motif is hard to pull off. (In fact, I didn’t think elegant execution was even possible before seeing the ring you posted! Stars and moons stuff usually tends sort of cheesy and “juniors” to me.) That said, I think I’d prefer it to be a little less subtle, which could be achieved with a gap/more distinct crescents.
Side note: you mentioned Maytal’s portfolio is more diverse than her IG represents. Do you happen to have any pics? I’ve only seen halos and pave solitaires on her site, and would be curious to see what other styles she’s done! I’ve heard she’s great to work with — and I too love that she does sketches — but I had ruled her out as an option as I’m not all that interested in hyper-feminine modern micropave stuff.
Appreciate your insight! Yeah, I can see how it could seem stylistically borderline, but the seller said it was from 1890, or maybe even earlier, which would predate the art deco period (if correct).
Well, it looks like you've gotten fantastic advice.
The Queen especially knows what's what and understands your aesthetic and emotional view down to the ground.
I am all in for this ride!
This is close to what I was talking about just a bit more carved/ three dimensional with the leaf detailing and bead set like the Berganza brooch from earlier. So, in reality pretty infinitesimal tweaks from the celestial vibe.
*It's interesting, I love the idea of a floral prong, yet for the life of me, I couldn't find the right execution. It was too easy a spill over to the impractical and for me personally, what would be the point of that for a daily wear engagement ring? It defeats the purpose.
This is pretty right, this Acanthus? The problem is pairing this down to not swallow the stone it's holding; easier said than done I think, for me it's still a daydream, for now.
Yes! What will happen to the bead set? Will they become actual pears and halfmoons or stay a melee set into the shape?
Prefacing this with confidence that whoever you work with will have ideas as well - just for a quick visual.
(I think I made the moon too fat here)
Also wondering about ways to change the gallery such that the shank doesn't go under the moons - so that what you see between center and inner moon wall really is just negative empty space...
One more - tucking the pear under the moon. But the moon is really too fat here too almost feel like this might be better with a round instead of a pear…
Those flowy art nouveau lines, and even more sculptural jewelry (*cough cough* Lent's grasping hands) in general just lend themselves to warm yellow or even rose golds to me. There is a softness and glow that colored golds just give off...they radiate. Whereas platinum is sleek, cool, heavy and luxe in its own way that just makes tons of sense with cleaner lines and tiny details like milgrain.
P.P.S. The pact is a deal. I want a juicy, colored stone nestled in a bed of carved golden leaves, and I want you to have your dream Anthony Lent ring.
P.S. Regarding Maytal. @elrohwen has a gorgeous example. HERE. So, I'd still say you made the right call choosing Leon. Maytal's earlier work consists of much more filigree, engraving, and more vintage-inspired works. Sleek and modern doesn't seem to be her thing based on what I have seen. She shared photos with me in a private email chain so I feel a little weird sharing them on a public forum, but if you are curious you can always reach out to me through Loupetroop. If you dig way back in old Maytal threads, you can find some examples too.
Gary Roe's work is the closest I found.
Well there you have it — you just articulated my feelings about both metals perfectly. This is why the world needs more art nerds!
Case in point: I saw these on Lent’s IG and was like, “huh, don’t think I’ve ever hated something so much.”
Sorry for the continued thread jack here, but yes, I think Leon was the right choice for my e-ring (hoping I still think so when I finally see the thing, haha). I asked with future projects in mind, but mostly on behalf of my sister, who is starting the e-ring process now. She originally reached out to LM, but let’s just say the two didn’t hit it off famously, lol. Figured MH might be a better fit for her on the personality front. I’ll shoot you an email.
So THAT’S who made the gorgeous green tourmaline ring! Just went to his IG and am dyyying over his ginko leaves, holy mackerel.
I need to learn to use photoshop…I just hate Abode anything!
Hot damn, you guys are all so good! I love these tweaks.
Definitely keep the melee + milgrain! And the gap looks SO GOOD. Goodbye, wall of bling! Fare-thee-well. The celestial motif comes through so much stronger, too.
I agree with @yssie (quelle surprise) — I prefer the shapes overlapping a bit so they are at different heights, rather than side by side on the same plane. Much more visually interesting from all angles. I really like those pears in place of the marquis (hey, you always wanted pears, right?!), either tucked under or on top of the crescents. Although I also could totally get on board with rounds tucked under the moons like @yssie suggested, or your little itty bitty marquis on top.
I can’t quite tell from your sketch, but are you thinking of doing like a split bridge (? I am for sure using the wrong terminology here) in order to keep that negative space uninterrupted from the top down? Where it’s shaped to run directly under the crescents on either side. Something like this:
If you have an iPad and Apple Pencil, you should try Procreate! Not as powerful as Adobe, but way more fun.