Diagem et al

[Cehrabehra]

Thanks Kaleigh - I''ll share more at the end - I don''t want to jinx myself lol I always admired mara for keeping her mouth shut until SURPRISE! That''s never come naturally to me lol

 

[Kaleigh]

Date: 9/12/2009 12:22:21 AM
Author: Cehrabehra
Thanks Kaleigh - I''ll share more at the end - I don''t want to jinx myself lol I always admired mara for keeping her mouth shut until SURPRISE! That''s never come naturally to me lol

I understand. I can''t wait for the Surprise!!!! Loved that about Mara too.

 

[wolftress]

Cehra, I''m no expert by any stretch of the imagination, but I have always loved your stone. I think the slight wonkiness gives it so much character. Maybe in a different setting it will really shine!

 

[Lynn B]

Sara,
Brew a cup of tea and go to Leon''s website. Look at all of the thin shanked, claw-pronged, delicate solitaires without any pave. Choose your favorite. Voila!

I think ANY of those would complement your stone PERFECTLY and really let it SHINE.
If it were MY diamond, that''s exactly what I would do.

 

[Maisie]

Date: 9/11/2009 8:27:29 PM
Author: Lynn B

Date: 9/11/2009 7:33:26 PM
Author: Maisie
I am sure that you will end up with a beautiful ring. I don't have a ring now. I realised it all got out of hand and sold everything. Now I just wear a plain gold ring and I am happy with that.

Quick threadjack here... REALLY, Maisie???! You sold your round AND your BGD ring???

Did I miss this somehow?

Post removed as I didn't mean to hijack.

 

[Ellen]

Date: 9/12/2009 10:12:56 AM
Author: Maisie

I didn''t say anything at the time. My husband and I have decided to separate.

Maybe you should start another thread, instead of derailing someone elses, again.

 

[Maisie]

Date: 9/12/2009 10:17:01 AM
Author: Ellen

Date: 9/12/2009 10:12:56 AM
Author: Maisie

I didn't say anything at the time. My husband and I have decided to separate.

Maybe you should start another thread, instead of derailing someone elses, again.

Which other thread have I derailed?

 

[elle_chris]

I think you have one of the pretties cushions I''ve seen. I wouldn''t touch it. I would however change the setting. Something that would make that baby stand out all on it''s own.

 

[diagem]

Date: 9/10/2009 8:50:34 PM
Author:Cehrabehra

I would like some raw feedback on my stone. I have to admit that when I first saw my stone I was disappointed with the uneven mains. I always envisioned 8 equal pavilion mains radiating from a large culet. I liked the elongation (1:1.26) but I had to grow to appreciate the particular cut on the pavilion of my stone.

That said I have no regrets because I fell in

with the stone instantly right down to the tiny 20x flaw in the heart of it. It was beautiful and did magical things I have yet to see another diamond do - ever. But I still pine a little bit for the more traditional 8 main and wonder if there might be a better potential balance.

Cehra..., dont be silly..., you have a super Gem...., and you worked hard at getting it..., just enjoy it...

Eight equal mains on an 1:1.26 ratio..., you should know better than that...

Setting wise..., that could be your issue..., but leave the gorgeous OMC alone

....

 

[Cehrabehra]

Okay - I have a few responses but first I have to say to Maisie - honey don''t you worry about me or this thread, I am not at all possessive about stuff like that - if you feel safe here in a thread with me - then that''s where you should say it. Now, I''m really sorry to hear that you are going through this and I wish you a lot of strength and peace and love to get you through. ((((hugs))))

 

[Cehrabehra]

te:[/b] 9/12/2009 12:04:38 PM
Author: DiaGem

Cehra..., dont be silly..., you have a super Gem...., and you worked hard at getting it..., just enjoy it...

Eight equal mains on an 1:1.26 ratio..., you should know better than that...

Setting wise..., that could be your issue..., but leave the gorgeous OMC alone

....

[/quote]

I should know better? Should I really? Let me post post something in a bit and beg a question to you... let me get the info I want to present and I''ll post here again in a minute.

 

[Maisie]

Date: 9/12/2009 12:36:29 PM
Author: Cehrabehra
Okay - I have a few responses but first I have to say to Maisie - honey don''t you worry about me or this thread, I am not at all possessive about stuff like that - if you feel safe here in a thread with me - then that''s where you should say it. Now, I''m really sorry to hear that you are going through this and I wish you a lot of strength and peace and love to get you through. ((((hugs))))

Thank you Sara. I appreciate that.

 

[Gailey]

Date: 9/12/2009 1:04:59 PM
Author: Maisie

Date: 9/12/2009 12:36:29 PM
Author: Cehrabehra
Okay - I have a few responses but first I have to say to Maisie - honey don''t you worry about me or this thread, I am not at all possessive about stuff like that - if you feel safe here in a thread with me - then that''s where you should say it. Now, I''m really sorry to hear that you are going through this and I wish you a lot of strength and peace and love to get you through. ((((hugs))))

Thank you Sara. I appreciate that.

For Maisie

XX

 

[Cehrabehra]

Okay, I''m either lazy or impatient so I''m going to just post my old cushion chart I made like 3 years ago and start a conversation because diagem says I should know and I don''t know but I want to more than know, I want to understand.

So in this chart the stones I am looking at in particular are 5, 6, and 8:

In 5 you have a slightly elongated cushion (I''d guess 1:1.20 and by guess I measured the screen lol) and 8 evenly spaced mains.
In 6 you have a very slightly elongated cushion (I''d guess 1:1.10 but by measure it also is 1:1.20) with thin corner mains.
In 8 you have what by eyeball looks about the same 1.20 ratio with the ends even and wider along the sides.

Here''s my stone - from my sarin:

And here is futzing with my stone in paintshop (I''ll get back to the question in the next post)

 

[Cehrabehra]

I just want to say WHEEEEEEEE I totally remember why I had so much fun on rocky talk back in the day lol

Okay - so I am not suggesting that my stone be recut in the way I have marked in red on my sarin (probably too shallow to accommodate that) but why couldn''t a stone be cut like that in general at 1.26? You say it like it is a simple concept but I really don''t know. I always hoped that someone would give me diamcalc as a gift but alas, I am not so special lol

 

[Cehrabehra]

Date: 9/12/2009 8:33:08 AM
Author: Lynn B
Sara,

Brew a cup of tea and go to Leon''s website. Look at all of the thin shanked, claw-pronged, delicate solitaires without any pave. Choose your favorite. Voila!

I think ANY of those would complement your stone PERFECTLY and really let it SHINE.

If it were MY diamond, that''s exactly what I would do.

I will do it but unless he has some new stuff in the past year I haven''t yet seen anything I''d want for this stone... not to say I wouldn''t take 2nd or 3rd or 4th or multiples of other settings for rhr!!!!!

 

[diagem]

Date: 9/12/2009 1:43:44 PM
Author: Cehrabehra
Okay, I''m either lazy or impatient so I''m going to just post my old cushion chart I made like 3 years ago and start a conversation because diagem says I should know and I don''t know but I want to more than know, I want to understand.

So in this chart the stones I am looking at in particular are 5, 6, and 8:

In 5 you have a slightly elongated cushion (I''d guess 1:1.20 and by guess I measured the screen lol) and 8 evenly spaced mains.
In 6 you have a very slightly elongated cushion (I''d guess 1:1.10 but by measure it also is 1:1.20) with thin corner mains.
In 8 you have what by eyeball looks about the same 1.20 ratio with the ends even and wider along the sides.

Here''s my stone - from my sarin:

And here is futzing with my stone in paintshop (I''ll get back to the question in the next post)

Cehra..., do you have the profile shot of your Sarin?
Where we could see the girdle?

 

[Rhino]

My thoughts are along Diagem''s. Leave it alone.

Cehra ... I''ve been down this road. You have 2 ordeals to face.

Facet design.
Light performance.

You can have the facet design ... that''s the easy part. The thing is once you *do* have that facet design the question becomes *how do I acquire the optics I want to see in various lighting as a result of that facet design?*

That requires lots of money and many mistakes with various proportion combinations. Wrong angles/%''s on any one facet set (say lower halves) can screw up the appearance. I lost weight in quite a few prototypes back and forth to finally get precisely what I wanted in appearance and I have a decent handle on how to do this. Unless you know *precisely* what you''re doing and have the capital to invest I''d leave it alone. My .02c.

Good to cya back on the boardds too girl.

 

[strmrdr]

ok I have some time to write and think about this:
Here is the problem, you already have well matched angles.
In order to recut it you have to remove material from the pavilion.
You no longer have the material to cut the proper angles without treating it as rough and doing a full re-cut top bottom and new girdle.
So you either end up with a much smaller stone or one that does not have the light performance of the old one.
Re-cutting works best on steep deep cuts.
Even on a steep deep changing the facet design may not work without huge weight loss because there might not be enough material in the right places to make it work with good angles.
bottom line love it and be happy you have an awesome diamond!!

 

[strmrdr]

post the srn file if you have one please.

 

[Cehrabehra]

Thanks storm - and I know you know that I know about angles and light performance and in any recut that would be first and foremost with particular design being secondary. Although my light performance preferences don''t have to be entirely "face up".

Okay that said I do have a sarin and I will find it in a sec - I will post some pics from my sarin that I have located here on dh''s computer.

First DG asked for a side shot of the girdle... I will post one from each side. First the short side:

 

[Cehrabehra]

long side:

 

[Cehrabehra]

and table just... cause it seems like it would be missing without it lol

 

[Cehrabehra]

found the sarin and I have a diamcalc report as well if you want that

 

[Cehrabehra]

aset

 

[Cehrabehra]

idealscope

 

[Cehrabehra]

the bowtie shot lol It never really bothered me much unset because those ''dark'' areas were always full of color but now they look like mirrors a lot of the time - it''s hard to get color in there, they''re reflecting the shiny platinum under the stone.

 

[Cehrabehra]

what the hell, here''s the diamcalc too in case anyone is interested... well nevermind - the file is too large lol hmmmmm.......

 

[Cehrabehra]

I think I wish that I had more of the maltese cross thing going on - there is a lot of virtual faceting in the ends - lots of pinfire and small fire... I think in my head if the end mains were wider there would be more balance.

 

[strmrdr]

seller have a trade in policy?