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Feedback on this Fancy Light Yellow Pear? Chip an issue?

for what it is worth, i can't see it either!
i would call to ask where the chip is, as that may be determine the way that you set the diamond. for example you don't want prongs resting on or near that chip as it could make that chip worse. but, i think if you were going to for a bezel setting, then it would not matter.
 
Love that colour, very pretty :) but it does seem to 'window' (go see-through) at several angles, which I think would need to be assessed 'in real life' to determine how much of an issue it might be. (Stones laying on their sides on another surface can change the reflection/refraction properties, if I understand it correctly).

Do also check out www.gemconcepts.net (diagem's website) as he has some awesome coloured pears :))which he sometimes posts on his instagram feed!
https://www.instagram.com/gemconcepts/
 
I dont think it would be an issue at VVS1 but definitely ask and see what they have to say.
 
Pretty! I would set it in a yellow cup to accentuate the colour :)
 
OoohShiny said:
Love that colour, very pretty :) but it does seem to 'window' (go see-through) at several angles, which I think would need to be assessed 'in real life' to determine how much of an issue it might be. (Stones laying on their sides on another surface can change the reflection/refraction properties, if I understand it correctly).

Do also check out www.gemconcepts.net (diagem's website) as he has some awesome coloured pears :))which he sometimes posts on his instagram feed!
https://www.instagram.com/gemconcepts/
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tyty333 said:
I dont think it would be an issue at VVS1 but definitely ask and see what they have to say.
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I love Yoram’s work . I wonder if he has anything within my limited budget.
 
Following up with a few more details on what I’m ideally looking for.

• carat weight of at least .50, though dimensions also important as well. Preferably 5mm at the widest point.
• at least fancy light yellow, ideally fancy or fancy intense
• no fluorescence
• very good to excellent polish
• very good to be excellent symmetry
• budget of no more than $2,300 for the stone, though lower price wouldn’t hurt!

I’d really like a pear, but am open to cushions (preferably elongated) and ovals as well.

Maybe I’m being too picky with my symmetry requirements and should lower to allow “good” as well?

Here are a few other stones i came across that i liked. It doesn’t have to be from JA, they just have a very large selection. I could always have someone else set if desired. I’m wanting to set it in a plain yellow gold solitaire.

.75 FLY Cushion
I really like the facet pattern on this one.
https://www.jamesallen.com/mobile/l...shion-cut/0.75-carat-vvs1-clarity-sku-5100437

.61 FIY Cushion
Not elongated, but i love the small table and the color grade
https://www.jamesallen.com/mobile/l...ushion-cut/0.61-carat-vs2-clarity-sku-4181474

.52 FIY Pear
https://www.jamesallen.com/mobile/l...ear-shaped/0.52-carat-vs1-clarity-sku-4893238

.76 SI1 FY Oval
SI1 but looks eye clean to me with nothing on the table
https://www.jamesallen.com/mobile/l...w/oval-cut/0.76-carat-si1-clarity-sku-4086122
 
MustGoFaster said:
Do you think it’s on the lighter side of fancy light yellows you’ve seen?

I like that but it has fluorescence, which I’m tying to avoid.
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I do think that the initial stone was on the lighter side and I wouldn’t brush off a stone with fluorescence that quickly. While yes, it is true that flouro can impact/lighten color, this diamond only exhibits medium flouro. I have found that fancy diamonds with fluorescence tend to be slightly “punished” for color which is why many times you can find diamonds with intense color saturation graded only “fancy” if they do exhibit flouro. DBL also created an article on the subject and you can read it here: http://www.diamondsbylauren.com/images/10/fl.htm

I have also worked with Leibish and you can ask them for additional pictures and videos in daylight to se if the stone’s color is impacted at all by flouro.

Nonetheless, if you are still not comfortable at all with flouro, then we understand, you are the purchaser here.

That said, I am not loving any of the new stones.
The first cushion appears leaky and therefore the color saturation looks uneven to me. The second cushion has better color, but it is deep and faces up really small. The pear has a brown undertone which I personally don’t like. The last oval is not terrible but the color looks very sleepy to me, not a vibrant yellow that other fancy diamonds can exhibit.

I do love pears and ovals in fancy diamond colors because they face up larger. That said, here are two more with great colors.

https://www.leibish.com/yellow-diamonds/fancy-intense-yellow-pear-33533 Gorgeous color :love: a bit deeper and with a thick girdle and therefore faces up a bit smaller. However, the price is great and the color is beautiful.
https://www.leibish.com/yellow-diamonds/fancy-intense-yellow-pear-26210 Also beautiful color, br lower on the clarity chart and it has faint flouro, which I personally don’t find to be of a great concern, but as I said before, you are the decision maker ;-)
 
SimoneDi said:
I do think that the initial stone was on the lighter side and I wouldn’t brush off a stone with fluorescence that quickly. While yes, it is true that flouro can impact/lighten color, this diamond only exhibits medium flouro. I have found that fancy diamonds with fluorescence tend to be slightly “punished” for color which is why many times you can find diamonds with intense color saturation graded only “fancy” if they do exhibit flouro. DBL also created an article on the subject and you can read it here: http://www.diamondsbylauren.com/images/10/fl.htm

I have also worked with Leibish and you can ask them for additional pictures and videos in daylight to se if the stone’s color is impacted at all by flouro.

Nonetheless, if you are still not comfortable at all with flouro, then we understand, you are the purchaser here.

That said, I am not loving any of the new stones.
The first cushion appears leaky and therefore the color saturation looks uneven to me. The second cushion has better color, but it is deep and faces up really small. The pear has a brown undertone which I personally don’t like. The last oval is not terrible but the color looks very sleepy to me, not a vibrant yellow that other fancy diamonds can exhibit.

I do love pears and ovals in fancy diamond colors because they face up larger. That said, here are two more with great colors.

https://www.leibish.com/yellow-diamonds/fancy-intense-yellow-pear-33533 Gorgeous color :love: a bit deeper and with a thick girdle and therefore faces up a bit smaller. However, the price is great and the color is beautiful.
https://www.leibish.com/yellow-diamonds/fancy-intense-yellow-pear-26210 Also beautiful color, br lower on the clarity chart and it has faint flouro, which I personally don’t find to be of a great concern, but as I said before, you are the decision maker ;-)
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Yes I’ve looked at that sku 33533 leibish Pear you posted quite a few times! I can’t remember why i crossed it off my list? I think i was worried it was too deep and that’s why it seemed like such a steal? But that’s actually the one aspect of cut I’m far less familiar with. That and girdle thickness. Do you find this deep of a depth an issue in regards to scintillation and fire? Or does it usually just cause a smaller face up size in the weight? I like the idea of the smaller table on that one too.
 
MustGoFaster said:
Yes I’ve looked at that sku 33533 leibish Pear you posted quite a few times! I can’t remember why i crossed it off my list? I think i was worried it was too deep and that’s why it seemed like such a steal? But that’s actually the one aspect of cut I’m far less familiar with. That and girdle thickness. Do you find this deep of a depth an issue in regards to scintillation and fire? Or does it usually just cause a smaller face up size in the weight? I like the idea of the smaller table on that one too.
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When looking at fancy color diamonds, the most important thing is color and color saturation. You want the color to be even throughout the stone. While color preferences are subjective, the industry values more the more intense colors. Fancy colors tend to be cut in shapes that “contain” color the most - radiant, cushion, oval, pears which from a performance perspective are probably some of the “worst” shapes. But those are just the right shapes for fancy colors. To me, a beautiful fancy diamond looks like it radiates from within. So I would not really reference scintillation or fire when speaking of fancy color diamonds where color is the most important characteristic. If fire and scintillation is what you are after then you should be looking at white round diamonds, not fancy colors.

In regards to the girdle, the face up size is where the impact is, but I wouldn’t call it terribly significant. Sometimes deeper stoneS help saturate the color better, but not always.

I will show you something else as well since you mentioned “fire and scintillation”. This is an ideal cut M color diamond that is within budget. https://www.briangavindiamonds.com/...0.657-m-vvs1-round-diamond-ags-e-104098157008

It is not fancy yellow, but it it a warm diamond and it will be a great performing stone. The setting can have a yellow gold cup that can help intensify the color.

Are you buying the diamond for yourself or someone else?
 
SimoneDi said:
When looking at fancy color diamonds, the most important thing is color and color saturation. You want the color to be even throughout the stone. While color preferences are subjective, the industry values more the more intense colors. Fancy colors tend to be cut in shapes that “contain” color the most - radiant, cushion, oval, pears which from a performance perspective are probably some of the “worst” shapes. But those are just the right shapes for fancy colors. To me, a beautiful fancy diamond looks like it radiates from within. So I would not really reference scintillation or fire when speaking of fancy color diamonds where color is the most important characteristic. If fire and scintillation is what you are after then you should be looking at white round diamonds, not fancy colors.

In regards to the girdle, the face up size is where the impact is, but I wouldn’t call it terribly significant. Sometimes deeper stoneS help saturate the color better, but not always.

I will show you something else as well since you mentioned “fire and scintillation”. This is an ideal cut M color diamond that is within budget. https://www.briangavindiamonds.com/...0.657-m-vvs1-round-diamond-ags-e-104098157008

It is not fancy yellow, but it it a warm diamond and it will be a great performing stone. The setting can have a yellow gold cup that can help intensify the color.

Are you buying the diamond for yourself or someone else?
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That is a very lovely diamond!! I just know that I don’t want a “traditional” white round brilliant. Albeit that one is a warmer color. I prefer the elongated shape pears and ovals have, especially since i like the finger lengthening effect. They usually appear visually larger for their weight to my eye as well with more finger coverage :)

This is for an engagement ring for me. SO and i have been talking, and he gave me a budget to work with and told me to give him some options. He trusts my judgement and i definitely don’t trust his when it comes to this :lol: Bless his heart.

We’ve looked at fancy yellows in person, as well as the standard colorless in multiple shapes, so i know i like the look of the yellow. It might not have the same “rainbow” a white diamond has, but i still prefer it. Of course the only local place to look at fancy colors is Tiffany’s which is grossly overpriced for what you get. No offense to the Tiffany ladies out there! Working on a limited budget, i just want more bang for my buck.
 
MustGoFaster said:
Simone, what do you think of this pear in general compared to the .50 FIY? Is the 24% increase in size worth it for the drop in one color grade and increase in price? I suppose that all comes down to personal preference.
https://enchanteddiamonds.com/diamo...ood&wire_price_max=2500#diamond=P58-642407176
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This one also seems like a pretty pear and it is larger than the 0.5ct FIY. I am not sure really. *I* personally may prefer an intense yellow and I do like the fact that Leibish can offer real life pictures. The above yellow seems to have one leaky spot that might be noticeable, it’s seems to be visible from all angles. Nonetheless, the picture is highly magnified.

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Do you know how you want to set the stone?

Edit: this stone also seems to have a lovely color, but the video is not the bestest: https://enchanteddiamonds.com/diamonds/view/P50-732364063?

Also, I didn’t want to share this one earlier because it is above your budget, but if there is any wiggle room, it is a gorgeous diamond: https://loupetroop.com/listings/loose-stones-diamond/yellow-oval-diamond
 
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MustGoFaster said:
This was my ideal stone, but above budget. And it got sold. Womp womp. It’s hard to find old mine cut yellows, or any antique yellow, especially within my budget. I guess i could always check with Yoram if we decide to go that route.

https://www.jamesallen.com/mobile/l...ushion-cut/1.01-carat-vs1-clarity-sku-3288564
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If this was the ideal stone, then you might want to consider a warm AVC. Here is one within budget:
https://www.augustvintageinc.net/co...vs2-august-vintage-cushion-brilliant-74246911

It’s Q color and the right setting can really bring the color out. See here for a great example: https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/dk-cad-assistance-needed.234335/page-12
 
Good lord that is beautiful. I just love the chunky facets on the August Vintage cushions. Is thought of if it wasn’t at least UV i wouldn’t be getting that yellow color, but that one looks distinctly yellow toned. I’m really wanting a plain yellow gold solitaire. Or perhaps a bezel in yellow gold. I’d rather spend the $$ on the stone. Do you think a simple solitaire with the right basket or bezel could help show the color?
 
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This was a bezel DK did that i liked. I wonder how this style would work for playing the color of done in all yellow gold. Curious as to the cost as well.
 
MustGoFaster said:
Good lord that is beautiful. I just love the chunky facets on the August Vintage cushions. Is thought of if it wasn’t at least UV i wouldn’t be getting that yellow color, but that one looks distinctly yellow toned. I’m really wanting a plain yellow gold solitaire. Or perhaps a bezel in yellow gold. I’d rather spend the $$ on the stone. Do you think a simple solitaire with the right basket or bezel could help show the color?
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If you love the chunky facets of the AVs then you should follow your heart. Pears and vintage cushions are two totally different shapes, so you really need to determine which one is you ;-)

If you want the stone to appear as yellow as possible, then I would definitely advice on “cupping” it or creating an intricate yellow gallery to help the color. DK is very experienced in creating a similar style setting and helping play up the color. I do love the bezel setting. I did have my FIY diamonds set in bezel earrings and I do love them. Here is a pic:600B91FD-24A5-44FC-9389-511E64AC259F.jpeg
 

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Those studs are gorgeous! It looks like i have some deliberating to do. I wish there was a place near me to view vintage cuts in person. I do have a cheap Cushion ring from Berricle that i do like though. I appreciate your advice so much :D I’m sure I’ll be back when I’ve decided which way to go.
 
Forgot to ask, is there a disadvantage of an AGS cert on the August Vintage versus a GIA? It says M on the description but the cert says Q? Is there a reason for this difference?
 
MustGoFaster said:
Forgot to ask, is there a disadvantage of an AGS cert on the August Vintage versus a GIA? It says M on the description but the cert says Q? Is there a reason for this difference?
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No disadvantage. Branded cuts usually are graded through AGS as the lab will recognize them. The M vs W is just a site glitch imo.

Think about what you might want, but make sure to place on hold the stones that you like while you are thinking about them. If you are still thinking pears, I would have leibish take a comparison pic of all stones (including the 0.66ct one with med flouro) that might help you at least judge the color better. The AVC is a completely different cut and while still yellow, it is lighter in color so you need to decide what is the most important to you :)
 
That AVC is stunning. I love the buttery yellow
 
MustGoFaster said:
This was my ideal stone, but above budget. And it got sold. Womp womp. It’s hard to find old mine cut yellows, or any antique yellow, especially within my budget. I guess i could always check with Yoram if we decide to go that route.

https://www.jamesallen.com/mobile/l...ushion-cut/1.01-carat-vs1-clarity-sku-3288564
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Interesting... to my eyes, that looks like it might even be a Yoram stone?? :confused:

Does @diagem provide stock to James Allen, either directly or through AVInc / @Rhino??


SimoneDi said:
If this was the ideal stone, then you might want to consider a warm AVC. Here is one within budget:
https://www.augustvintageinc.net/co...vs2-august-vintage-cushion-brilliant-74246911

It’s Q color and the right setting can really bring the color out. See here for a great example: https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/dk-cad-assistance-needed.234335/page-12
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See if you can find @cflutist's thread on her Q coloured CBI diamond - it's lovely!!
 
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